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1c3crysta1
Unknown in the unknown
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Posted - 2013.06.10 00:09:00 -
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Been living in a C4 for over a year now, but I have yet to see them. According to: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Wormholes#Wormhole_Identification they do exist and are named O128, so my question is, have anyone seen them? If they exist, are they completely close to non-existant rare and in that case, does anyone know why? Seems wierd to pick a class out and exclude them from wandering holes if there ain't a good reason... |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
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Posted - 2013.06.10 00:34:00 -
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1c3crysta1 wrote:Been living in a C4 for over a year now, but I have yet to see them. According to: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Wormholes#Wormhole_Identificationthey do exist and are named O128, so my question is, have anyone seen them? If they exist, are they completely close to non-existant rare and in that case, does anyone know why? Seems wierd to pick a class out and exclude them from wandering holes if there ain't a good reason...
Never seen one |
Tilly Delnero
Licorne Ventures Ltd.
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Posted - 2013.06.10 00:42:00 -
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1c3crysta1 wrote:Been living in a C4 for over a year now, but I have yet to see them. According to: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Wormholes#Wormhole_Identificationthey do exist and are named O128, so my question is, have anyone seen them? If they exist, are they completely close to non-existant rare and in that case, does anyone know why? Seems wierd to pick a class out and exclude them from wandering holes if there ain't a good reason... You know... now that you mention it, I've never seen one either on TQ or the test servers either. I can recall a lot of C1, 2 and 3s, a handful of C5s and 6s but not a single C4.
You have piqued my curiosity sir. |
Rroff
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
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Posted - 2013.06.10 00:49:00 -
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O128 is a mass regen WH, mass regen WHs aren't live on TQ.
Even if it was you could potentially scan a C4 24x7 for upto something like 2 years before seeing one potentially so even if they are/were live ingame its quite possible for almost no one to have seen one. |
Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
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Posted - 2013.06.10 01:47:00 -
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Rroff wrote:O128 is a mass regen WH, mass regen WHs aren't live on TQ.
Database attributes specify a C3 highsec static regens 500mil mass. |
Nathan Jameson
Grumpy Bastards Mass Overload
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Posted - 2013.06.10 03:53:00 -
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There are a number of connections that never went live on TQ, including a C6 one large enough to fit Titans through. Thank god for that.
I live in a C4 for over two years. Not once was there ever a periodic (random, roaming, whatever) leading outwards from it. http://www.TalocanUnited.com |
Svodola Darkfury
Heaven's End League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.06.10 06:09:00 -
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I've never seen a k-space connection from C4 space (as the O128 would be).
I THINK I've seen wandering wormholes in a c4 though, but now that Nathan just said that ^ I'm questioning myself.
Svo. CEO of Heaven's End; Seller of Wormholes. |
Remy Nolen
Sama Guild
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Posted - 2013.06.10 07:59:00 -
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The only holes I've ever seen in c4's are statics and k162's; never anything else |
Rroff
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
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Posted - 2013.06.10 08:21:00 -
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Jack Tronic wrote:Rroff wrote:O128 is a mass regen WH, mass regen WHs aren't live on TQ.
Database attributes specify a C3 highsec static regens 500mil mass.
Ah yeah D845s also a bit of an anomally at 5bn max mass. |
1c3crysta1
Unknown in the unknown
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Posted - 2013.06.10 10:25:00 -
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Thanks for the responses, it is as I suspected, these C4s are kinda special I was a bit unclear in my original post, but you cleared that up as well. It isn't just that particular wormhole that conspicuously absent, but that C4s never seems to be the source of any wandering wormholes either. |
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Lusty Wench
Nox Incurro
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Posted - 2013.06.10 16:06:00 -
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I've been in C4s for probably the better part of 2 years I've never seen anything other than the local static and K162s |
DrBmN
Axial tilt
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Posted - 2013.06.10 23:11:00 -
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we live in a c4 for more than 3 years now, we get only K162s |
TheNewestTwin
Avalon Project Shadow Rock Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.10 23:47:00 -
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This is certainly interesting and now that I think about it I've never seen one. I would love to get a CCP Dev response on this thread explaining if this is actually live on TQ or not.
-TNT |
Vassal Zeren
Uncontrollable Innovations
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Posted - 2013.06.13 03:10:00 -
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Nathan Jameson wrote:There are a number of connections that never went live on TQ, including a C6 one large enough to fit Titans through. Thank god for that.
That's news to me! |
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui
Anomalous Existence
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Posted - 2013.06.13 22:06:00 -
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All data so far as well as personal experience points at there being no wandering outbound wormholes in C4 space. As to the O128...they are so rare that we may never see one even if it's implemented. |
Faulx
Brother Fox Corp
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Posted - 2013.06.14 01:06:00 -
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Actually, that chart says O128 would lead to C4 (if it existed). No one's ever sighted one that I've ever heard of. There aren't any leading from C4. |
Phaderift
Sky Fighters Mass Overload
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Posted - 2013.06.14 16:32:00 -
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last i checked C4s Do not get K space connections of any kind on TQ right? |
florin2001ro
D00M. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2013.06.15 16:43:00 -
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i saw O128 like 2 or 3 times, probably are verry rare didnt pay attention |
Rroff
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
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Posted - 2013.06.15 17:46:00 -
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Phaderift wrote:last i checked C4s Do not get K space connections of any kind on TQ right?
If O128s are live then they do, I was told no mass regen whs were live but I guess they meant no wormholes regen mass as D845s are live in the game and thats a mass regen wh.
Thing is theres single figure number of O128s even if they are live and thousands of systems they could be in, they can lead to over 500 C4 WHs and need someone to both scan them down and initiate warp to on the k-space side to spawn the k162.
So even if they are live from the point of view of any one C4 you could potentially be there monitoring sigs 24x7 for literally years before you saw one.
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1c3crysta1
Unknown in the unknown
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Posted - 2013.06.15 18:55:00 -
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Rroff wrote:Phaderift wrote:last i checked C4s Do not get K space connections of any kind on TQ right? If O128s are live then they do, I was told no mass regen whs were live but I guess they meant no wormholes regen mass as D845s are live in the game and thats a mass regen wh. Thing is theres single figure number of O128s even if they are live and thousands of systems they could be in, they can lead to over 500 C4 WHs and need someone to both scan them down and initiate warp to on the k-space side to spawn the k162. So even if they are live from the point of view of any one C4 you could potentially be there monitoring sigs 24x7 for literally years before you saw one.
Why would the K162 be scanned down to spawn? Thought it spawned when the original hole spawned. You're right about the probability for anyone to find it though, that's why I thought about asking if anyone might've seen it. |
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Rroff
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
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Posted - 2013.06.15 20:21:00 -
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The k162 side of a wormhole only appears in the destination system when someone initiates warp to the other side for the first time.
The cosmic signature being spawned or even scanned to 100% isn't enough to activate it - a WH sig will infact hang around for days if someone doesn't initiate warp to it (rather than the normal 16 or 24 hours once activated). |
1c3crysta1
Unknown in the unknown
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Posted - 2013.06.15 20:27:00 -
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That's what I meant with "when the orignal hole spawned", but why would both sides be tracked down for the k162 to spawn? (unless i misinterpreted you) |
Rroff
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
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Posted - 2013.06.15 20:33:00 -
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Ah - no I'm saying the k-space side needs to be tracked down and spawned. |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
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Posted - 2013.06.15 22:11:00 -
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So off topic but how did the "wandering" term crop up. It's not like the wormholes themselves "move" seems more like "random" wormholes might be a better term as they spawn randomly like everything else (anoms etc) |
1c3crysta1
Unknown in the unknown
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Posted - 2013.06.16 05:56:00 -
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Rroff wrote:Ah - no I'm saying the k-space side needs to be tracked down and spawned.
That would make the O128-very quite unique, right?
Derath Ellecon wrote:So off topic but how did the "wandering" term crop up. It's not like the wormholes themselves "move" seems more like "random" wormholes might be a better term as they spawn randomly like everything else (anoms etc)
Don't know where it originated from, but I took the term from eveopedia. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Wormholes (section 10, where all the wormholes are listed) |
Robert Harrison
Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2013.06.17 17:38:00 -
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During my short, 3 months I'll never get back, stay in a c4 the closest to a random out bound connection was actually having 2 static's (N766) at the same time. |
Evangelina Nolen
Sama Guild
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Posted - 2013.06.18 10:21:00 -
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Robert Harrison wrote:During my short, 3 months I'll never get back, stay in a c4 the closest to a random out bound connection was actually having 2 static's (N766) at the same time.
I for one like the peace & solitude of C4 space. I also happen to like the Solitude highsec/lowsec regions. |
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