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Armor Jack
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Posted - 2005.11.13 11:44:00 -
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Edited by: Armor Jack on 13/11/2005 11:44:36 I have to say destroyers _________________________________________________ The only real Caldarian is born a Caldarian, dawg... |
Sarina Talglit
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Posted - 2005.11.13 11:46:00 -
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Dreadnaughts, more likely... |
Tachy
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Posted - 2005.11.13 11:49:00 -
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I see destroyers all over in high to med sec space.
Have you ever seen a Burst in space? I did buy one just because I wanted to know how they look. Even the Minmatar NPC miners prefer flying a Reaper over them.
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PKlavins
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Posted - 2005.11.13 11:50:00 -
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who said destroyers? ive seen more of those than dreads for sure...and destroyers are good for lvl2's
once RMR comes out titans and carriers will join the ranks of 'EVE's Least Used' simply cause they are expensive beyond belief (im not whining...for good reason they are expensive) and they need tons of skills at lvl5. -----------------------------------------------
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Armor Jack
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Posted - 2005.11.13 11:53:00 -
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The average play doesn't afford a Dreadnaught, so they don't count _________________________________________________ The only real Caldarian is born a Caldarian, dawg... |
sonofollo
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Posted - 2005.11.13 11:53:00 -
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u see a lot of destroyers in fleet engagement as tacklers
t2 destroyers that can mobile warp bubble and automatic warp scramble (entrap 0.0 targets goign warp point to warp point) and have em scrambled automatically without antoerh module will be good.
I would say the augour (amarr cruiser that is hopeless in combat but reasonable at shield and energy transfer) would be very underused (however a favourite with elvel 4 mission runners as it has reasonable speed - level 4 manufacturing agetns i mean all non combat)
Some of the factional ships which are collectors items mostly (we need all base t1 ships to have a factional counterpart from the different races navies) ie gallente navy thorax etc
dominix would be one once the drone changes come in at leats initialy - ravens suffered a while - megathons and apocs are now more widespread in combat
Scorps are good for taking down 8 wcs battleships in travel mode.
Dreads are coming in - otherwise no i think all ships have their uses.
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altsr us
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Posted - 2005.11.13 12:15:00 -
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heron maybe?
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.11.13 12:26:00 -
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the ships i rarely see:
burst navitas heron condor
omen vexor
typhoon (i have only ever seen ONE close up, and he was still out of scramble range)
cyclone brutix
thrasher coercer
raptor ares
and:
firetail slicer navy caracal navy augoror navy vexor fleet stabber navy megathron fleet tempest rattlesnake nightmare bhaalgorn cynabel gila phantasm dramariel daredevil cruor
and ofc:
fedathron impoc impageddon opux yacht silver magnate gold magnate guardian vexor
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Ortu Konsinni
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Posted - 2005.11.13 12:28:00 -
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I think I've only a seen a Burst twice in almost two years of playing the game. And a Navitas a handful of times. Then I believe the Tormentor, Crucifier, Heron aren't too popular either. And let's not forget the forgotten cruisers, such as the Bellicose... Which, actually, is pretty much the only one that is really rare, I believe.
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Capt Rob
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Posted - 2005.11.13 12:29:00 -
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Edited by: Capt Rob on 13/11/2005 12:30:49
Originally by: HippoKing the ships i rarely see:
burst navitas heron condor
omen vexor
typhoon (i have only ever seen ONE close up, and he was still out of scramble range)
cyclone brutix
thrasher coercer
raptor ares
and:
firetail slicer navy caracal navy augoror navy vexor fleet stabber navy megathron fleet tempest rattlesnake nightmare bhaalgorn cynabel gila phantasm dramariel daredevil cruor
and ofc:
fedathron impoc impageddon opux yacht silver magnate gold magnate guardian vexor
yes and dont forget the bellicose, never seen one in the whole time ive been playing.
edit: WAs jsut beat to saying this (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
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Plutoinum
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Posted - 2005.11.13 12:40:00 -
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If I look only at ship classes, probably destroyers.
But I think battlecruisers are also not very common at least in pvp. Think most players use them for mission running, before they get a bs. Did that too. Ok maybe the ferox is an exception, not sure. I flew the Cyclone, but there is not much that I could do better with battlecruiser than with bs I think. Imho BCs are also very slow / not agile. Moving around with it feels like moving around in a small BS, so I rather take a bigger version with more shield, armor, slots, firepower.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.11.13 12:47:00 -
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Heron
Augoror? - Proud member of the [23].
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.11.13 12:54:00 -
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hippo about summed it up :)
i did see three burts in 10 minutes once though and literally had to check to see if i was dreaming
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Banana Torres
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Posted - 2005.11.13 13:04:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing the ships i rarely see: vexor
Come to Gallente space they are everywhere.
Originally by: HippoKing brutix
Well they are mainly in bits after being blown up, mainly with me driving.
Originally by: HippoKing ares
Perhaps not the best interceptor there is
Originally by: HippoKing daredevil guardian vexor
I see them every time I log in. :-)
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2005.11.13 13:09:00 -
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Has anyone ever seen a living Wraethu?
I wish there were more fun skills with Memory as primary. Poor Intaki combat people with low perception... |
Plutoinum
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Posted - 2005.11.13 13:21:00 -
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Edited by: Plutoinum on 13/11/2005 13:23:05 And Exquror or how it's written. I used it only once for moon probing and I've never seen it before in space. The cargo hold of the thorax I used before was too small to hold the probes for a system with a lot of moons. Ok, could have used a small iteron, but a cruiser with launcher, cloaking device, ab and lows full of nanofibres aligns fast to small moons, offers some comfort and works nice.
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Obwi Stefano
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Posted - 2005.11.13 13:28:00 -
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i have never seen a PC arbitrator and i have been playing for 2 years, but I've seen the NPC type of it a couple of times
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2005.11.13 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: Banana Torres
Originally by: HippoKing daredevil guardian vexor
I see them every time I log in. :-)
take me screenies of the guardian vexor!
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Irashi
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Posted - 2005.11.13 14:12:00 -
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The only times I've ever seen grifins and herons being used is when some newbie hasn't been told that they're useless for what they'd use them for. The condor's a common 1st frigate for newbies though.
And yeah I've only seen a couple of typhoons, loads of scorps, doms and geddons but not phoons. __________________________________________________
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gizli
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Posted - 2005.11.13 14:20:00 -
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gold magnate. silver magnate, imperial geddon
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digitalwanderer
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Posted - 2005.11.13 14:40:00 -
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Now that some are mentioning capital ships....Anyone have more info about carriers,specifically if they can use jumpgates and can be used in empire space?...
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Del Narveux
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Posted - 2005.11.13 16:22:00 -
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Thus follows my list of Worst Ships Ever (i.e. not used, but not rare like impoc/faction stuff):
Heron Maulus Navitas Executioner, Condor, Atron, Slasher (outside newbie systems) Omen Tristan Cyclone Bellicose Augorer Exequor Celestis
And now, some ideas to make these ships more common
Heron -More cargo, or speed, or something industrial-ish. Its supposed to be the caldari version of the imicus/probe (interestingly amarr does not even have a ship of this type), but it just sucks all around.
All the other frigates -Give them more slots and more grid and whatnot. Other than ship cost (which isnt that much even if youre a new player) theres basically no reason you would want to fly a condor instead of a merlin.
Omen -1 or 2 more slots and more grid. Should be able to fit 4x heavy pulse and a halfway decent tank.
Tristan -MORE BLOODY MISSLE SLOTS! This thing is evidently the gallente missle ship, yet it has only one slot? Seriously, wtf...give it 3 missle slots and maybe another midslot and we got a deal. Cyclone - Needs one more midslot. Bellicose/Moa - Needs more grid, armor, shields (belli in particular needs grid and another turret point). Possibly change the 10% range bonus to 15% so its snipe range is comparable to a BS. Augorer, Exequor -Cant really be helped, they are specialty ships. Celestis -Needs more midslots, right now theres really no reason to fly this over a bbird. _________________ [SAK] And Proud Of It! -- aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base?
Originally by: Wrangler Well, at least we have forum PvP..
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franny
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Posted - 2005.11.13 17:08:00 -
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Originally by: Del Narveux And now, some ideas to make these ships more common
some of them(tristan another missile slot, celestis loses a high gains another mid, not sure on the rest) are coming in the MK2 changes
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Megadon
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Posted - 2005.11.13 17:45:00 -
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I frequently fly from one end of the galaxy to the other and I have to say, that i regularly see all the ships that are on the list of ships that people supposedly don't fly much. I think its all where you hang out.
The only ones I dont see a lot of (or at all) are the logistic's ships. Basilisk, Guardian, Oneiros, Scimitar.
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BoinKlasik
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Posted - 2005.11.13 18:11:00 -
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Edited by: BoinKlasik on 13/11/2005 18:14:57
Originally by: Obwi Stefano Edited by: Obwi Stefano on 13/11/2005 13:40:05
i have never seen a PC arbitrator and i have been playing for 2 years, but I've seen the NPC type of it a couple of times
I fly one :P come find me as long as you dont blow me up :P Tho it has been phased out as i get my caracal, but it does pretty amazing in lvl 2 missions where i cant lock frigates as fast as my drones blow them up, which is fun. Also leads to not having to move much to pick up loot :)
Hey..anybody know why that arbitrator in that link DEFINATELY isnt the one in game? The slots are a definate nono.... mine are 4/3/5 not the 4/4/4 there...what gives!
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Chade Malloy
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Posted - 2005.11.13 18:20:00 -
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Back at the beginning there where lots of these now barely used frigates and cruisers. Since Agent missions where non existent (or broken later on) and mineral prices where WAY lower than today (not to mention that there where no battleship npcs and broken loot tables for a long time), it was kinda hard to earn enough money for even a basic tristan frigate. I used to mine in a navitas for a while, till i could afford one myself
However, i never ever saw a bellicose cruiser around, and i¦m playing for a long time now ;)
Maybe i¦ll go buy one just for fun now
DEVs break things by looking at them. |
altsr us
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Posted - 2005.11.13 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: BoinKlasik Edited by: BoinKlasik on 13/11/2005 18:14:57
Originally by: Obwi Stefano Edited by: Obwi Stefano on 13/11/2005 13:40:05
i have never seen a PC arbitrator and i have been playing for 2 years, but I've seen the NPC type of it a couple of times
I fly one :P come find me as long as you dont blow me up :P Tho it has been phased out as i get my caracal, but it does pretty amazing in lvl 2 missions where i cant lock frigates as fast as my drones blow them up, which is fun. Also leads to not having to move much to pick up loot :)
Hey..anybody know why that arbitrator in that link DEFINATELY isnt the one in game? The slots are a definate nono.... mine are 4/3/5 not the 4/4/4 there...what gives!
think the ships on the items database may have been updated to the mk2 specs?
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Jon Xylur
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Posted - 2005.11.13 18:48:00 -
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The most unsused ships are uber rare faction ships. For example there is only 1 Fedaration issue Megathron (aka Mega Fedthron) and it's probably never taken out. BTW, Carriers will nto be "expensive beyond belief", as they are one of the cheaper capotal ships and only costs as much as freighters. Motherships on the other hand...
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Magic Trev
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Posted - 2005.11.13 19:36:00 -
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i would vote logistcs ships rarest used
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VeNT
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Posted - 2005.11.13 19:40:00 -
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belacose. all the lvl 1 mining ships (burst, navitas etc)
herons stupidly usedless
most of the lvl 1 cruisers apart from caldari
don't see as meny blackbirds as you used to, they where BRILL cheap cruisers.
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