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DazzStorm 11
Blake Industries
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Posted - 2013.06.12 14:27:00 -
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Guys
this is for your benefit, since the patch 5 month ago when all the ships got beefed up, people failed to realize that CCP doubled the cost of MINS look at any blueprint and in Manufacturing you will notice bottom category that it says extra mins, this mean that 95% of people in EVE are selling ships at half the price they should be, this is all thx to CCP for screwing up the ship market.
just look at your numbers again and you will see how many billions of isk you are loosing.
E.G. a build cost on a DOMI is around 180 mil people are selling them for 100 mil you do the math
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Signal11th
The Retirement Club
1009
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Posted - 2013.06.12 14:29:00 -
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DazzStorm 11 wrote:Guys
this is for your benefit, since the patch 5 month ago when all the ships got beefed up, people failed to realize that CCP doubled the cost of MINS look at any blueprint and in Manufacturing you will notice bottom category that it says extra mins, this mean that 95% of people in EVE are selling ships at half the price they should be, this is all thx to CCP for screwing up the ship market.
just look at your numbers again and you will see how many billions of isk you are loosing.
E.G. a build cost on a DOMI is around 180 mil people are selling them for 100 mil you do the math
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Amanda Chelian
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Posted - 2013.06.12 14:30:00 -
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Surely we can just wait, these people won't be producing these ships forever?
*leaves to make some reprocessing calculations* |
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries Solar Assault Fleet
550
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Posted - 2013.06.12 14:31:00 -
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DazzStorm 11 wrote: E.G. a build cost on a DOMI is around 180 mil people are selling them for 100 mil you do the math
Unless there was one or two persons who where bright enough to build a Domi or five before the changes.
CCP Eterne: Silly player, ALL devs are evil. CCP Fozzie: When Veritas describes a programming challenge as "very hard" I tend to believe him.
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brinelan
The Flying Dead Insidious Empire
43
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Posted - 2013.06.12 14:31:00 -
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You do realize that people made thousands of ships at the old build cost before the mineral changes and are making a profit compared to the build cost they made them at. These stockpiles will take a while to work through just like with all of the other ship balances that have happened. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
14764
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Posted - 2013.06.12 14:32:00 -
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DazzStorm 11 wrote:E.G. a build cost on a DOMI is around 180 mil people are selling them for 100 mil you do the math This is nothing new. People have been doing that for ages.
GǪand it's excellent news for industrialists GÇö it means there's an opportunity for you to make money while they waste theirs. Everyone wins! (for certain values of GÇ£everyoneGÇ¥). GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4261
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Posted - 2013.06.12 14:33:00 -
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Eventually they will under cut themselves to death and move on to something that doesn't require basic math to succeed at. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
1435
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Posted - 2013.06.12 14:33:00 -
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DazzStorm 11 wrote:Guys
this is for your benefit, since the patch 5 month ago when all the ships got beefed up, people failed to realize that CCP doubled the cost of MINS look at any blueprint and in Manufacturing you will notice bottom category that it says extra mins, this mean that 95% of people in EVE are selling ships at half the price they should be, this is all thx to CCP for screwing up the ship market.
just look at your numbers again and you will see how many billions of isk you are loosing.
E.G. a build cost on a DOMI is around 180 mil people are selling them for 100 mil you do the math
Wow,
And it couldn't be that all of the industrialists "In the know" started building these ships 5 months ago in anticipation of the changes, and are now making a killing selling their Domis (for example) at 116mil when their actual build costs were much lower, based on when they built them (pre-odyssey).
Like any market, it isn't going to be able to adjust that much overnight. So the prices will slowly rise as the "Old build" ship stock is sold off.
The only people "losing" (yea 1 "o") billions are those who didn't get the memo and are trying to build them now with the new build costs. There is no point until the current stock is sold off. |
Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
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Posted - 2013.06.12 14:34:00 -
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DazzStorm 11 wrote: CCP doubled the cost of MINS look at any blueprint and in Manufacturing you will notice bottom category that it says extra mins, this mean that 95% of people in EVE are selling ships at half the price they should be, this is all thx to CCP for screwing up the ship market.
No they didn't.
Most ships aren't doubled and some dont have extra mins at all
Sorry that New Eden isnt a Nanny State that fixes your prices for you like some sort of auction house in a Blizzard Game.
Do research, not rants
DazzStorm 11 wrote:just look at your numbers again
Just do it ffs and leave us alone "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
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Riot Girl
Thundercats The Initiative.
1041
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Posted - 2013.06.12 14:35:00 -
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You're the first person to notice that ship builders have been losing money for the past 5 months. Well I'm sure they'll appreciate you figuring it out for them. They'll probably be glad to start earning some money again. Oh god. |
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Mathrin
Synthetic Solution Synthetic Systems
88
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Posted - 2013.06.12 14:35:00 -
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DazzStorm 11 wrote:Guys
this is for your benefit, since the patch 5 month ago when all the ships got beefed up, people failed to realize that CCP doubled the cost of MINS look at any blueprint and in Manufacturing you will notice bottom category that it says extra mins, this mean that 95% of people in EVE are selling ships at half the price they should be, this is all thx to CCP for screwing up the ship market.
just look at your numbers again and you will see how many billions of isk you are loosing.
E.G. a build cost on a DOMI is around 180 mil people are selling them for 100 mil you do the math
This sounds more like an "I just realized there is an extra minerals section" Dev blogs outline extra minerals and what the purpose of them is IIRC. |
Haulie Berry
1035
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Posted - 2013.06.12 14:36:00 -
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DazzStorm 11 wrote:Guys
this is for your benefit, since the patch 5 month ago when all the ships got beefed up, people failed to realize that CCP doubled the cost of MINS look at any blueprint and in Manufacturing you will notice bottom category that it says extra mins, this mean that 95% of people in EVE are selling ships at half the price they should be, this is all thx to CCP for screwing up the ship market.
just look at your numbers again and you will see how many billions of isk you are loosing.
E.G. a build cost on a DOMI is around 180 mil people are selling them for 100 mil you do the math
Wow! I can't believe nobody has noticed this yet!
Where would we be without you, OP? |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
12795
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Posted - 2013.06.12 14:40:00 -
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Who's the Rose and why should I smell his industry people? "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?-á http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8232
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Posted - 2013.06.12 14:42:00 -
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A few bombing runs will fix the problem Twitter: @EVEAndski
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DazzStorm 11
Blake Industries
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:00:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:DazzStorm 11 wrote: CCP doubled the cost of MINS look at any blueprint and in Manufacturing you will notice bottom category that it says extra mins, this mean that 95% of people in EVE are selling ships at half the price they should be, this is all thx to CCP for screwing up the ship market. No they didn't. Most ships aren't doubled and some dont have extra mins at all Sorry that New Eden isnt a Nanny State that fixes your prices for you like some sort of auction house in a Blizzard Game. Do research, not rants DazzStorm 11 wrote:just look at your numbers again Just do it ffs and leave us alone
yeah not all ships they left destroyers alone, but the point is its been 6 months nearly and im seeing day to day poeple putting ships on at below production cost, a no every one havnt stock piled a load of ship as they would be selling at the new high price not the old price |
Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
254
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:01:00 -
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DazzStorm 11 wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:DazzStorm 11 wrote: CCP doubled the cost of MINS look at any blueprint and in Manufacturing you will notice bottom category that it says extra mins, this mean that 95% of people in EVE are selling ships at half the price they should be, this is all thx to CCP for screwing up the ship market. No they didn't. Most ships aren't doubled and some dont have extra mins at all Sorry that New Eden isnt a Nanny State that fixes your prices for you like some sort of auction house in a Blizzard Game. Do research, not rants DazzStorm 11 wrote:just look at your numbers again Just do it ffs and leave us alone yeah not all ships they left destroyers alone, but the point is its been 6 months nearly and im seeing day to day poeple putting ships on at below production cost, a no every one havnt stock piled a load of ship as they would be selling at the new high price not the old price
Ok, Ill be rational for once (see what you made me do)
Why do you care? Honestly, why? "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
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DazzStorm 11
Blake Industries
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:02:00 -
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end of the day the Ship market is F+3%ed and most people are loosing isk and following the sheep on the market with out doing there homework,
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Ramona McCandless
Standards and Practices Petition Blizzard
255
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:08:00 -
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DazzStorm 11 wrote:end of the day the Ship market is F+3%ed and most people are loosing isk and following the sheep on the market with out doing there homework,
So... take advantage of it?
Thats kinda how market forces work?
How odd I have to tell the bears how to both care and bear "You are even dumber than everyone says." - Kristopher Rocancourt
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
14766
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:09:00 -
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DazzStorm 11 wrote:end of the day the Ship market is F+3%ed and most people are loosing isk and following the sheep on the market with out doing there homework Good.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Ifly Uwalk
Empire Tax Collection Agency
769
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:12:00 -
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DazzStorm 11 wrote:end of the day i was too stoopit to read the dev blogs six months ago and am building ships at the new costs and making a huge loss all the while making sure real indies can make a profit even with out doing there homework,
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Dave Stark
3164
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:14:00 -
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your attempt at market manipulation is bad, and you should feel bad. |
UKBigWolf
38
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:16:00 -
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Not sure if a) Troll b) Stupid c) Ignorant
I would explain how we builders are still making plenty of profits... but honestly? I can't be bothered to explain
Edit: Hell, you've been playing longer than I... surely this is some troll attempt |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Aegis Solaris
1958
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:18:00 -
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Lors Dornick wrote:DazzStorm 11 wrote: E.G. a build cost on a DOMI is around 180 mil people are selling them for 100 mil you do the math
Unless there was one or two persons who where bright enough to build a Domi or five before the changes. Five? You expected me to stop at five???
But that is the issue: Huge stocks of pre-expansion ships need to be sold off. Procurers are still being worked through. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8234
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:25:00 -
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Yeah you had people installing 30 day jobs on every slot on every manufacturing character they have for this change, expect the stockpiles to last a while. Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
1435
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:39:00 -
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DazzStorm 11 wrote:end of the day the Ship market is F+3%ed and most people are loosing isk and following the sheep on the market with out doing there homework,
OMG it's LOSING. Otherwise they'd just need a wrench to tighten that **** up.
And yes the vast majority are stockpiled from before odyssey. Anyone who didnt would likely be sitting on their stock until the price rises.
And no they can't sell at the new prices yet as the competition with those who did stockpile would leave their stuff overpiced and on the shelves.
Imma give this a 0/10 |
Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
1088
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:53:00 -
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BUILD... HYPERIONS
Production cost 215m.
Lowest Jita Retail: 230m.
Don't build Domis. One of the oldest mission players in EVE designed a chart that explains stat priority in regards to mission running, compared Alpha, DPS, Ship Speed and Sig Radius and scores them. http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m24dbrfuWn1r86ax8o1_1280.jpg |
Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
1088
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:55:00 -
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BUILD... ROKHS
Production Cost: 207m
Lowest Jita Retail: 234m.
Don't Build Domis. One of the oldest mission players in EVE designed a chart that explains stat priority in regards to mission running, compared Alpha, DPS, Ship Speed and Sig Radius and scores them. http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m24dbrfuWn1r86ax8o1_1280.jpg |
Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
1088
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:56:00 -
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BUILD... ABADDONS
Production Cost: 222m
Lowest Jita Retail: 230m
Don't Build Domis One of the oldest mission players in EVE designed a chart that explains stat priority in regards to mission running, compared Alpha, DPS, Ship Speed and Sig Radius and scores them. http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m24dbrfuWn1r86ax8o1_1280.jpg |
Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
1088
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Posted - 2013.06.12 15:57:00 -
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BUILD... MAELSTROMS
Production Cost: 197m
Lowest Jita Retail: 204m
Don't Build Domis One of the oldest mission players in EVE designed a chart that explains stat priority in regards to mission running, compared Alpha, DPS, Ship Speed and Sig Radius and scores them. http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m24dbrfuWn1r86ax8o1_1280.jpg |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
12822
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Posted - 2013.06.12 16:25:00 -
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Build cargohold expanders!
They're needed to hold honor! "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?-á http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny |
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