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Spawn08
Synergy R3act1on R O G U E
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Posted - 2013.06.17 14:50:00 -
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CCP have done it to allow new players to develop interest in the game, the most popular way for people with 1 toon, to make ISK in game for PvP is sigs and anoms.. to increase profit for CCP they need new players.. this is a business and its got nothing to do with anything other than business, attracting and selling their product. (maybe miners as scanning is something they would only use to find grav sites, but they changed them to anoms probably because of this reason)
This is the same with any company and business.. i would like to pretend its because of dipsy and lala but really its because these changes will profit their company and their paycheques more.
Thanks for reading, take care :) |
Nitocriss
Pulse Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2013.06.17 16:13:00 -
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I think some of you are sensationalizing what's going on here. Odyssey was just released it was an expansion heavily geared toward exploration hence there is a lot of interest right now with it. For a lot of the pilots out there running these sites the fad will pass. I don't necissarily see how the exploration mechanic has been dumbed down any other than advertising that there are scannable signatures in a system when a pilot lands. You still have to go and scan em down.
I suspect there will be adjustments to some of the mechanics. I'm not crazy about the annoying loot spew, I really don't see what purpose it serves other than annoying everyone. Other than that I don't see a whole lot to be upset with. If you're running into too much competition for sites move to a less populated area or simply give it a little time while the newness wears off. |
VulpusFox
Specter Syndicate Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2013.06.18 07:42:00 -
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Exploration hasn't been dumbed down, what the auto formation does is nothing you can't learn from a 5minute youtube video
You still will want high skills in null sec, i have t2 analyzers and still occasionally come across cans i can't beat (I curse all suppressors to hell!)
People are only complaining because this brought to light what used to be a fairly unknown way to make boatloads of isk. People knew they could run them but quite a lot I found didn't actually know how good the rewards were in mag/radar sites over even 10/10's
Heck my largest single payout ever in null sec was from a single mag site netting me 3.5billion =D It was a day I suspect CCP tweaked drops and increased certain loot. Because 1 week later the price for that loot plummeted lol twas a glorious day . Too bad it will never come again. It is a bit rare now a days to come across sites worth even 100mil where i'm living now and bringing a friend along cuts my income in half understandably. Though i've gotten better at picking out the high value cans solo
Theres still plenty of skill to be had that newbies wont just "acquire" and isn't given to them on how to optimally run these sites. And if you're having trouble competing and finding sites well sad to say perhaps you don't know as much about exploration as you think ;)
On a side note, has anyone else been having trouble tractoring cans after a certain amount of time has passed? I find cans still out in space, blinking mind you but am unable to tractor them. I know my mouse is working because i can double click and align... |
Keenky
Royal Amarr Expeditions
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Posted - 2013.06.18 12:45:00 -
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I can understand his posting tbh and why he is upset.
But maybe, as a sign of hope and light at the end of the tunnel, a few informations about scanning from a different point of view, might help.
a.) Scanning in Highsec is really a true waste since the patch. I can only imagine the pressure delivered on Highsec explorers. Before the patch my skill levels and my experience helped me to keep on scanning in Highsec. Since the patch im not even spending a thought about it, pure waste of time, income is like half from the few that was left before the patch. I dont believe, that anyone can really speak of income when stying in Highsec as explorer. There might be some big fish left, but to find those is not a matter of skill of player of toon, but a matter of luck. And luck never has been the source of stable income.
b.) Scanning in lowsec is relatively odd. It is in fact half the way from high to null sec, in most matters. You have to face a higher risk (PVP) and still dont get the big fish often. While less a matter of luck than highsec, it is still the most influencing factor for your income. Seen from the point of a null sec explorer lowsec is still more highsec than its towards nullsec. In fact, the most sites in lowsec ive found in my region (Derelik,/Mekashtad) are dead sites, which cant despawn and have been bookmarked by PVPers, which are often waiting inside the site cloaked to quickly launch an attack. Again: a waste of time, except you love to play with the mouthbreathing gimps that consider themselves as pirates :)
c.) Scanning in nullsec is pretty nice. Big fish for bigger risk. I csee it that way, because for an explorer who is mainly after data and relic sites the world out there is just great. -) you dont need expensive ships and dont need expensive implants :) Just take a very cheap Tech1 scanning frig, put in the cheapest equipment (u dont need sisters stuff anymore, u dont 3%+ implants anymore, u dont need t2 rigs) and fit her for hacking/archeology and a cheap t1 scanner, fit the rest of the frig for being hard to tackle and extremely quick (AB). -) In nullsec, when doing your homework on statistics, you can fly in nearly empty skies with lots of sigs. Drop the crap, take datacores, decryptors and spatials and BPCs, leave the rest drifting in space for the pirating scavengers :) -) stick to this simple rules: - use WHs to get into nullsec and back close to highsec. - never fly directly from gate to gate (buubles) - always check directional scanner with short distance before warping to a gate, to know what might be waiting there for you, especially when some pewpewers are in the same system. - always check directional scan with large distance when in a site and someone enters system. If combat scan probes are out ..-. cloak. And wait. He cant find you, he cant chase you and my standard sentence in this case is: "Not in this life, gimp." - dont be a cheerry picker there, else you ruin your own hunting grounds. - Be quick once you encounter a bubble. Just dont warp to a spot, which could be easily guessed that you would do (like center star, 0 km.) - Be careful on border lines from low to null. There are always some camping. But in fact, those are mostly harmless when you dont warp gate-2-gate. Those mostly fly cheap ships have low skills and wouldnt be able to tackle a scanning frig if it were 20 of them. - Dont lose your head once in a bubble. The more often you experience that, the less thrilling it is. Stay cool, do what you need to, and if u get caught u lost like 20 millions. That is less than what 1 single relic or data site pays you :) - prefer WHs to change regions if crowdy and many players online, choose traveling via gates in less crowded game times or empty regions.
Try it out, it is very comfoprtable. |
Zero Sum Gain
Star Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.18 12:53:00 -
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As much as I enjoy 3d spatial conceptualizing and personalizing my scans, there was a boatload of tediousness and rarely a payout. Now you still need to have knowledge and personal skill it just changed the focus of it. Speed and being first to the discovery is what matters now and payouts are more regular if you know what and how to look for. This new learning amazes me sir Bedimere. Tell me again how sheep's bladders may be employed to prevent earthquake. |
Jenn Ymor
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.18 13:15:00 -
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Scanning in High Sec, at least Caldari Space was already overrun before the Patch hit the server. I used to have a couple of routes that were halfway profitable and even those hardly had anything left aside of the wormhole entries here and there or other useless sites. The few combat sites that I found were either already done or it developed into a race to the loot pinata. (Altough sometimes people wouldn't know the trigger and left sites before the spawn/structure was shot. ) I tried again after the latest patch but with the new system it was even more crowded than before. Moved to lowsec and found more sites, though I only ran data&relic sites so far. If you find a nice quiet spot it is at least more relaxing then the high sec sites and more profitable. And if run into pirates at least I provide some content for them. I hope that after the initial run for the new content it will get better for explorers. |
Keenky
Royal Amarr Expeditions
9
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Posted - 2013.06.18 13:50:00 -
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Jenn Ymor wrote:. I hope that after the initial run for the new content it will get better for explorers.
Indeed, im in Exploration since years, and only few stayed at this profession, especially when rewards are thin and at this point it is good, that most dont know how to triger expeditions and escalate them until the 7th step and ctach the named :)
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Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
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Posted - 2013.06.18 13:51:00 -
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The whole premise behind this game is you have to go out and make stuff happen, the game doesn't do it for you. Now all of the sudden I get a full list of all 'hidden sites' automatically in every single system just for jumping in.
I sure do feel more like an explorer now
Also:
Loot scattering = ret@rded
Hacking mini-game = decent
Grav sites moved to anoms = great Not today spaghetti. |
Keenky
Royal Amarr Expeditions
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Posted - 2013.06.18 13:54:00 -
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Sexy Cakes wrote:The whole premise behind this game is you have to go out and make stuff happen, the game doesn't do it for you. Now all of the sudden I get a full list of all 'hidden sites' automatically in every single system just for jumping in. I sure do feel more like an explorer now Also: Loot scattering = ret@rded Hacking mini-game = decent Grav sites moved to anoms = great
Well, the cheats on russian websites for the hacking mini game is also a bit "********". I mean, how poor to need a cheat program for that. |
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