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Anvi
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Posted - 2003.08.09 21:18:00 -
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It`s becoming very pathetic to play EVE knowing at any moment I can meet ship, which is full of devices you(DEV team) didnt even introduced into the game.
I`m refering to information leaks you having with current polaris/gm/.... crew.
"Some" recive informations about rich systems and they get a huge boost compare to rest of EVE world.
Again same "Some" gets BluePrints of technologies you say will be only introduced in future patches.
"Some" have devices Tech level 5 for rather long time, where you planing on introducing Tech2 in next patch.
And now everyone reads your news about Joves and what system they might show up, but "Some" recive information what Jove is going to show up their system on opposite side of galaxy map, while everybody following story line and waiting to get nothing.
I`m just requesting to be more hard on your crew, because so far there was many unacceptable things what could have been avoided if few of your crew were not in competitive corporations(thats only one hint).
Thank you and good luck with this matter.
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zincol
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Posted - 2003.08.09 21:21:00 -
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i agree,but im not going to comment on this topic,it will probally get locked ne ways, what can you do...im lost intrest in eve now,it did start out good and pretty fair,but now it's not really as fair as it looks... neva mind
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Anvi
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Posted - 2003.08.09 21:23:00 -
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yeah I guess many can do long comments about it but...
I just asking DEVs to take this matter more serious.
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Derek
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Posted - 2003.08.09 21:24:00 -
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Zincol if you have lost interest in eve why do you respond every thread on the eve boards and start your own and then I see you in game on the market channel talking non-stop.
If your seriously not interested please stop cluttering it up for the people who are.
_______________________________________________2005.05.02 03:56:57combatYour Mega Pulse Laser II perfectly strikes Sansha's Battletower, wrecking for 1190.5 damage._ |
Stavros
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Posted - 2003.08.09 21:38:00 -
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i like him i find his posts interesting... --
"Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |
scam artist
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Posted - 2003.08.09 21:43:00 -
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if these are the start of events i dont feel part of them i feel left out...
like many otheres
these boards need a search engine |
Tharrn
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Posted - 2003.08.09 21:48:00 -
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A private storyline for selected few with the majority just watching (reading news) would be a major letdown.
And who would have thought that TTI doesn't like this thread? :P
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zincol
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Posted - 2003.08.09 21:49:00 -
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if u think about it,the game has now become very unbalanced! lost intrest as in the game isnt as good as it was to start with,all cos of whats happening, 2 b honest might as well do what m0o does and make a big mess every where for a laugh!! instead of playing the game in miner/trader why not be a mass pirate and kill every 1 lol!!! wonder if m0o has spots open? hehe!
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Pars
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Posted - 2003.08.09 21:53:00 -
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Well this game is going down the drain pretty fast. considering all the new buggs that are showing up and features that aret showing up. Hell beta had more features then now. Gimme back my beta account!!!! |
Supersonix
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Posted - 2003.08.09 22:13:00 -
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Well wow then, we see all these Tech lvl 5 on every market in the god damn EVE and with 5 billion bp's each beeing flooded.
Come on, it isn't THAT bad.
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Darth Maul
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Posted - 2003.08.09 22:15:00 -
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Any time GM's involve themselves in a game like this it spells rapid doom for the community. There is NO WAY many others who aren't included will ever believe that the intentions were harmless or that there isn't some ongoing scheme going on behind the scenes resulting in unfair advantages to the people involved.
Most online companies have learned this fact allready and avoid the pitfalls this type of behavior creates like the plague. I suppose since CCP seems to be such a small company and the EvE gaming community is so small (only a few thousand on at any given time is very small for mmorpg type games) that any time they involve themselves directly it leads to an uproar and accusations start flying.
CCP's only option to avoid a probable future uproar is to strictly enforce a policy of GM's and Polaris members not being allowed to belong to any player run corps - in any fashion, alts or not. And also to randomly integrate the story line over various sectors of the galaxy so as not to appear to be favoring one alliance over another ect. This is very important in a game like this, where the difference between the haves and the have nots is growing exponentially. And will become painfully evident if major hostilities break out and ships need to be replaced radidly. Would you want to face a corp that had exclusive high tech equipment in a situation like that?
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Technolisa
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Posted - 2003.08.09 22:48:00 -
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would like to hear what GM/Polaris members have to say bout this. _______________________________________________
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Anvi
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Posted - 2003.08.09 22:51:00 -
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Quote: would like to hear what GM/Polaris members have to say bout this.
guess...."I`m sorry, I`ll try to not do it again"
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la'Rei
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Posted - 2003.08.09 23:16:00 -
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Quote: if u think about it,the game has now become very unbalanced! lost intrest as in the game isnt as good as it was to start with,all cos of whats happening, 2 b honest might as well do what m0o does and make a big mess every where for a laugh!! instead of playing the game in miner/trader why not be a mass pirate and kill every 1 lol!!! wonder if m0o has spots open? hehe!
if I know mOo they dont recruit every forum troll that wants to join :)
Anyways, I dont think GM/Polaris had anything to do with ANY of this.
1. The person that gave the ship out. Considering it wasnt a GM (GMs know what should be in the game and not normally, plus GM's are NOT allowed to interact in the game in any way... meaning NO freebies... ANYTHING) So that marks GMs out. of that niflem miner. Polaris... They have the same rules as the GMs, they just dont have enough power to spawn stuff. So that crosses polaris out.
So we have 'DEVs' and S&SI. Ok, the Devs 'MIGHT' have done it. I doubt that, but they 'MIGHT" have. From what I know, the devs play the game enough to see how it works, and what's in it, if it works, and if the game they make is actually good!!! So, I would think the devs would at least, halfass know that was god equip. so that marks the Devs out.
Now S&SI.. well... their the people that 'own' this game... they can do damn well near anything they please. Their representives that get on, to do this stuff... probibally have no friggin idea how to do anything. It was probibally an S&SI representive or something. I cant IMAGINE a GM doing it. I cant IMAGINE a Polaris doing it, and I doubt a DEV would do it. but S&SI representive... Idunno about that ;)
Anyways... gimme your corpses!
-rei _________________________ Trolling is bad. Please dont do it. -rei |
Zeidrich
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Posted - 2003.08.09 23:27:00 -
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I agree though completely.
Tell us why the hell you're doing this.
And is this crap going to happen on an ongoing basis. I know that some people have cancelled their accounts over this. I would too, but I'm more willing to give a bit of time for them to sort it out.
If they come clean, I mean, state that yeah, they screwed up and that they're going to take steps to insure it again, then fine, I'll forgive it.
If they come forward and say, OHHH hee hee, it was just one of our silly modelers giving out blueprints, he didn't realize they were not available yet, ... hee hee. Then frankly, screw this game.
I'm not subscribing just to watch other people get off on toys that I'll never have. NOT because I'm not a good enough player, but instead, because I'm not the GM's friend, or friend of a friend, or the alt of a GM, or whatever else qualifies you to get these special "gifts".
What's the point in working your ass off to put together a somewhat cohesive corporation to finally make some decent cash, to find out that another corp was just handed the means to rake in a few billion isk per week, for no freaking reason at all.
It ****es me off. It makes me not want to play.
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Amorex
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Posted - 2003.08.09 23:44:00 -
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In Beta, we have to earn a BP or an item, by finding or interacting with the story or event directly. For expl, I earn my Merlin BP original in beta, by traveling in nooby ship ~40 jumps or more. In beta we had an event with 3lvl cruiser BP, and we earn it by killing that cruiser. and there was many ppl from different corps that work as a team. We ( not my corp but all thous that where there ) blocked the every gate and a search party cross solarsystem to find a target. It was fun and exiting even if you didn't get an prise, and no one complain And what we have here in reales. for 55mil isk some corp bought a BP of lvl2 tech item. Not by force, not by event, and not by teamplay. Just some GM/Dev/Polaris dicided to give it. I what to tell that if CCP want a competition in game, you must make that corp or person must prove that ht deserving to take it.
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Calladen Nimitz
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Posted - 2003.08.09 23:45:00 -
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Edited by: Calladen Nimitz on 09/08/2003 23:47:36 "Some" recive informations about rich systems and they get a huge boost compare to rest of EVE world.
Who has information? Who is giving it? All this conjecture and rumor does nothing but upset people. Look at all the major corporations. All have mostly moved to the outer systems to establish bases of operation. Stain, Fountain and Venal for now, how many more later? Many I'm sure. It's not because of inside information or anything else.
Again same "Some" gets BluePrints of technologies you say will be only introduced in future patches.
Who? Who gave it? All I've seen is some conjecture and supposition on what the Jovians gave those who had the Miner V lasers. No one has come forward and said "I have this BP" nor has anyone I know of made this type of announcment. Again with no facts all it is is conjecture.
"Some" have devices Tech level 5 for rather long time, where you planing on introducing Tech2 in next patch.
The only two level 5 tech items I'm aware of are the Level 5 Mining beam that Ragnar of TTI purchased from Saruu (already explained by the Dev who accidently gave it away) and the Level 5 Missiles that someone made from a BP before it was corrected (they kept the missiles).
Personally the missiles should go in the same type of deal the miner received. Ragnar had the miner for a few days and except for testing it the miner sat in a hangar the whole time. We didn't keep it secret instead role-playing about its acquisition (if we had we could've sold them when reverse engineering came out). The situation was corrected. I have no idea what any of the people with these miners obtained in the Jovian trade (there were more then one from what I heard) so again all I have is conjecture.
And now everyone reads your news about Joves and what system they might show up, but "Some" recive information what Jove is going to show up their system on opposite side of galaxy map, while everybody following story line and waiting to get nothing.
I'd appreciate a link to this "news" telling us where the Jove will show up next. I haven't seen anything of the sort and I read these fourms everyday. We all know a renegade Jovian admiral is running around and yesterday MASS did a fine job of protecting their citizens from this infected renegade. Who knows where he will show up next? I noticed all the people accusing TTI of inside information after the Jovian deal earlier are silent now that the Jovians have showed up somewhere other then Venal?
I wish everyone would quit wasting time worried about what they THINK is happening and focus on what really IS happening. All this conjecture and accusation does nothing but polarizes the EVE community for no purpose.
That being said, if there are indeed "leaks" of information I fully support CCP eliminating them. But until its shown they exist I'm not going to waste time worrying about them.
Calladen Nimitz
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Stront3h
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Posted - 2003.08.09 23:48:00 -
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Very er, defensive post.... |
tobiasrieper
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Posted - 2003.08.09 23:52:00 -
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yeah very defensive "tobiasrieper will be Biomass in 140 Hours ( Thursday 14 Aug ) " |
Calladen Nimitz
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Posted - 2003.08.10 00:03:00 -
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Not defensive at all. Just an observation that no facts at all have been presented. I'm sorry for being so analytical but all we've seen are conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory with no supporting evidence.
Being a member of the corporation that is the target of most of these "conspiracy theories" I am of course a little miffed that everytime one is disproven two more pop up in its place. I'm also disturbed to see all the people who inferred that TTI moved to Venal "for a reason" when the Jove deal happend are now silent when the Jovians appear other places. Oh we're still seeing accustions but they're general. I've seen no one attack MASS or STAIN publically? You can see my point.
In real life I consider myself very "moral" and I don't believe cheating, exploiting or other types of activity are proper even in a game. If someone is doing this I think they should be shown the door. The point is we don't know.
If CCP finds some GM's have been violating the trust of the players I hope they take appropriate action to expel them.
Calladen Nimitz
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Stavros
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Posted - 2003.08.10 00:06:00 -
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calladan i dont care if the green ass tooth fairy corp has been given the bp, the fact is that these gifts from god will seriously screw up the economy. Even if they are allowed in for a day or two at most, i know today alone the owned of the bps has raked in well over 200mil and thats just from people i know who have bought them.
in short its a joke but maybe not a tti related joke. --
"Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |
Karif
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Posted - 2003.08.10 00:10:00 -
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Guess that means people who know are stupid and don't know how a market works, eh? =============================== Deception + Information + Skill |
Mandos
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Posted - 2003.08.10 00:29:00 -
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Quote: It`s becoming very pathetic to play EVE knowing at any moment I can meet ship, which is full of devices you(DEV team) didnt even introduced into the game.
I`m refering to information leaks you having with current polaris/gm/.... crew.
"Some" recive informations about rich systems and they get a huge boost compare to rest of EVE world.
Again same "Some" gets BluePrints of technologies you say will be only introduced in future patches.
"Some" have devices Tech level 5 for rather long time, where you planing on introducing Tech2 in next patch.
And now everyone reads your news about Joves and what system they might show up, but "Some" recive information what Jove is going to show up their system on opposite side of galaxy map, while everybody following story line and waiting to get nothing.
I`m just requesting to be more hard on your crew, because so far there was many unacceptable things what could have been avoided if few of your crew were not in competitive corporations(thats only one hint).
Thank you and good luck with this matter.
You present a conspiracy theory that gives us the impression that a lot of people working with this game are "corrupt" in some sense, yet you show nothing to back up your claim.
If you notice any Polaris volonteer who is leaking information or mis-using his or her trust, simply report to the game management via a petition.
These kinds of defamatory attacks are not OK. If you have a valid complaint, raise it by contacting CCP. This is just trolling and it is very much against the forum rules.
What is really disturbing me is that this trolling corrupts an otherwise constructive debate (in this case; how should Tech 2 be introduced into the game, and what do you think about GMs interacting via events), and turns it to a topic where everybody who works with the game are made out to be bad guys.
Topic locked.
-- Mandos Polaris Forum Moderator and Bug Hunter EVE Forum rules |
agrizla
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Posted - 2003.08.10 00:32:00 -
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So Calladan just say simply : "We do not have an original Miner2 BP".
Go on - because I know you can't. Not if expect your character to hold any integrity in the future.
Hell of a deal BTW - shame it screws over the economy quite the way it does though. The only thing that can save it now is multiple BP "drops" (from devs/GMs/npcs/whoever) very very quickly.
Ah well we'll see what we see I guess......
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