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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2013.06.22 15:41:00 -
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Gate camps are bad and those taking part in them should feel bad. They are lame and the people that like doing it are morally corrupt. It's not fair. I shouldn't have to go out of my way to stop dying to camps. I should be able to move freely through all systems, without experiencing any boat violence. I don't want to use any of the current mechanics to avoid such death.
I think that covers all the bases.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Cearain
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
970
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Posted - 2013.06.22 20:22:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Gate camps are bad and those taking part in them should feel bad. They are lame and the people that like doing it are morally corrupt. It's not fair. I shouldn't have to go out of my way to stop dying to camps. I should be able to move freely through all systems, without experiencing any boat violence. I don't want to use any of the current mechanics to avoid such death.
I think that covers all the bases.
Yep we all ready covered the "mechanics" to avoid gate camps. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Dread Operative
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
170
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Posted - 2013.06.22 21:07:00 -
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Gate camps are an essential part of day to day life in FW. Most efficient way to deal with farmers and send a clear message they are not welcome near my home system. |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
15002
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Posted - 2013.06.22 21:08:00 -
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Cearain wrote:Yep we all ready covered the "mechanics" to avoid gate camps. You're the reason I posted. Your posts make me smile.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
616
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Posted - 2013.06.22 21:11:00 -
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I honestly cant remember the last time i died to a gate camp. Remember killing a squid vigilant who was camping with rainbow dash recently though.
Thank you for camping!
I know i link too many videos, but i enjoyed this because the vigi pilot went on to accuse our 9 man setup of blobbing their 8 man logi camp.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVvQ8XXNBCQ
Props to juls, who ran it but didnt get on the mail :( |
Cearain
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
970
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Posted - 2013.06.22 22:17:00 -
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Dread Operative wrote:Gate camps are an essential part of day to day life in FW. Most efficient way to deal with farmers and send a clear message they are not welcome near my home system.
I don't doubt that is what fw has come to. It's clear faction war pilots rarely stay to fight in plexes anymore. Luckily the non fw pilots are filling the gap.
Mag's wrote:Cearain wrote:Yep we all ready covered the "mechanics" to avoid gate camps. You're the reason I posted. Your posts make me smile.
yay! Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
15002
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Posted - 2013.06.22 22:36:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Oh and since our rancer campers are posting theres another one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtPROl9YIucWe did kinda blob them but my god, they run fast, the only way to catch them is to fill up their overview so they cant find a celestial to warp to! We do enjoy 'good fights' when they come around, but most of the time we get blobbed. I don't see any issue with running from that tbh. Also gate camping ships tend to have a specific fit. Therefore when we do see a blob coming, we dock up and change. If the blob is too high we'll most likely not undock. Although we sometimes do and they have been some of the best times I've had in Eve.
We do write a big target on ourselves by being in the same place for so long, but we accept it as part of the life style. There is risk to gate camping, but if we can avoid getting blobbed we will. Hot drops are funny and although we can often see them coming, we don't always see the signs.
It all boils down to ISK. We are there to make it and avoid losing it.
Oh and the overview idea doesn't work, just thought I'd give you a heads up.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1456
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Posted - 2013.06.22 22:42:00 -
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Cearain wrote:I don't doubt that is what fw has come to. It's clear faction war pilots rarely stay to fight in plexes anymore. Luckily the non fw pilots are filling the gap. I know! Thank goodness! |
aetherguy881
Malformed Entity C.L.O.N.E.
18
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Posted - 2013.06.22 23:01:00 -
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You'd be surprised, but the insta-lock camps are broken to where they don't work. Like when you have the target locked and your module doesn't activate.
Unfortunately that's got to do with how the server is handling everyone's request...
In layman's terms: Player 1 requests warp from gate, server grants. Player 2 requests lock on Player 1, server grants. Player 2 locks player 1 (insta lock). ??? Server grants "in-warp" status to player 2. Tackle module request fails due to target not being locked.
The same thing works with cloakies.
I was told at fanfest to file more bug reports but WITH the log server running when doing so. Need to catch all of those silly condors and cloakies. |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
617
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Posted - 2013.06.23 00:03:00 -
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Mag's wrote:[ doesn't work, just thought I'd give you a heads up.
I was joking about the overview. |
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
15004
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Posted - 2013.06.23 00:11:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Mag's wrote:[ doesn't work, just thought I'd give you a heads up. I was joking about the overview. Ahh my bad. Just tapped my joke radar and sure enough it wasn't switched on. (It's late and I've been decorating all day )
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Cearain
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
970
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Posted - 2013.06.23 01:06:00 -
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Mag's wrote:[ It all boils down to ISK. We are there to make it and avoid losing it.
That makes sense. I would rather camp a gate than orbit buttons in a stabbed atron.
X Gallentius wrote:Cearain wrote:I don't doubt that is what fw has come to. It's clear faction war pilots rarely stay to fight in plexes anymore. Luckily the non fw pilots are filling the gap. I know! Thank goodness!
It's good for those who like plex fights Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
618
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Posted - 2013.06.23 01:14:00 -
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Cearain wrote: It's good for those who like plex fights
Yes, its good for everyone in faction war.
Since you arnt in FW and everyone appears as neutral or pie to you, i can see why you might think militia dont fight in plexes. |
Cearain
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
970
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Posted - 2013.06.23 01:20:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Cearain wrote: It's good for those who like plex fights
Yes, its good for everyone in faction war..
Its good for everyone except farmers.
Crosi Wesdo wrote: Since you arnt in FW and everyone appears as neutral or pie to you, i can see why you might think militia dont fight in plexes.
Why do you think that?
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
618
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Posted - 2013.06.23 02:42:00 -
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Cearain wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Cearain wrote: It's good for those who like plex fights
Yes, its good for everyone in faction war.. Its good for everyone except farmers.
Nope, seems ok for them too. That means, as per usual, its just you.
Anyway, didnt you run from me the last time i saw you? I know you had your reasons, reshipping is a pita and all that. But why question other peoples motivations for running as though they were less justified than yours?
Well, tbh i get it. The way you play the game is the correct one. |
Cearain
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
970
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Posted - 2013.06.23 03:09:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Cearain wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Cearain wrote: It's good for those who like plex fights
Yes, its good for everyone in faction war.. Its good for everyone except farmers. Nope, seems ok for them too. That means, as per usual, its just you. Anyway, didnt you run from me the last time i saw you? I know you had your reasons, reshipping is a pita and all that. But why question other peoples motivations for running as though they were less justified than yours?.
It wasn't you I was running from it was prismn in the t3. It may seem like I am running from you because he just happens to be every system you are in! It's like he is your shadow or your blanky.
Crosi Wesdo wrote: Well, tbh i get it. The way you play the game is the correct one.
I don't recall ever telling anyone how to play. It was always you telling me, if I don't like fw, then leave. Or now that I am not in it, that I am ignorant about fw, whatever. Do what you want. Ill keep fighting in plexes.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
618
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Posted - 2013.06.23 13:21:00 -
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Cearain wrote: It wasn't you I was running from it was prismn in the t3. It may seem like I am running from you because he just happens to be every system you are in! It's like he is your shadow or your blanky.
Like i said, you are correct as always. The reasons you run from fights are all good reasons. The reasons other people run from fights are all bad reasons. |
Cearain
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
970
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Posted - 2013.06.23 17:48:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Cearain wrote: It wasn't you I was running from it was prismn in the t3. It may seem like I am running from you because he just happens to be every system you are in! It's like he is your shadow or your blanky.
Like i said, you are correct as always. The reasons you run from fights are all good reasons. The reasons other people run from fights are all bad reasons.
I'm not sure where you think I said that. I have long maintained that the best way to win fw sov is by running from all fights and rabbit plexing. So if you are wanting to win fw sov it is a good reason to run. That's how its set up.
It is however good for people who like to pvp in plexes that people other than people out to win fw sov enter them.
If you want to say I am wrong or bad from running from your t3 and frigate that's fine. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Major Killz
SniggWaffe
216
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Posted - 2013.06.23 23:21:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Mag's wrote:[ doesn't work, just thought I'd give you a heads up. I was joking about the overview. Ahh my bad. Just tapped my joke radar and sure enough it wasn't switched on. (It's late and I've been decorating all day )
Don't worry you're not alone. I'm also a coward AND a space Ninja. So, I also like to sneak around and run away. I leave bravery to Heroes and other professionals (firemen, police officers, soldiers etc) who die a lot. Nope, not for me! I prefer being a coward. - Killz
Combat Video Log: http://www.youtube.com/user/kdsalmon/videos - Pantaloon (June 13, 2013) - Pantaloon II: Violins (Jun 23, 2013) |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
15007
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Posted - 2013.06.23 23:50:00 -
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Major Killz wrote:Mag's wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Mag's wrote:[ doesn't work, just thought I'd give you a heads up. I was joking about the overview. Ahh my bad. Just tapped my joke radar and sure enough it wasn't switched on. (It's late and I've been decorating all day ) Don't worry you're not alone. I'm also a coward AND a space Ninja. So, I also like to sneak around and run away. I leave bravery to Heroes and other professionals who die a lot (firemen, police officers, soldiers etc). Nope, not for me! I prefer being a coward. Grats I guess.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
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Dan Carter Murray
422
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Posted - 2013.06.24 05:06:00 -
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the good news is that gate campers are terrible at pvp and run from pretty much every single fight.
if you disagree you're probably offended at the truth. it stings.
IF YOU'RE NOT IN AMARR MILITIA THEN GET ******
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
15007
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Posted - 2013.06.24 19:34:00 -
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Dan Carter Murray wrote:the good news is that gate campers are terrible at pvp and run from pretty much every single fight.
if you disagree you're probably offended at the truth. it stings.
Not empty quoting.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Oh'so Scrumptious
Phoibe Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2013.06.25 05:43:00 -
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Unfortunately gate camps happen. Its part of the game and its tried and tested. The gate camp you are describing for us at the moment, is in fact, working completely as intended. You, the target, are jumping through into the happy guns of the campers on the other side, and blown up to the avid cries of "Horray for kill-mails!", "i wonder how much the ship was worth!" and the occasional "hope he has implants" whist everyone is stacking points onto your pod to get on the mail.
Gatecamps however, aren't broken, as its been said in reply to your post before, not being there is the best defense. sometimes you will hear the odd tear shed as someone jumps out of the camped system and warns immediate local. People may tell you down the pipeline that certain areas are camped today.
Remote SeBo's and Scan Res have taken a slight hit in the recent update, so your problems are lessened when flying frigates or moving about in shuttles. but if your moving about battle-cruisers and Battleships, flying through lowsec without a scout or any form of gate checking is one way to have said ship removed from your Assets in a pretty ball of fire.
Tldr:
- Gatecamps wont change.
- Use a scout for big ships moving in Lowsec
- Pay attention to Local
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Auduin Samson
Do not disturb Sanctuary Pact
80
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Posted - 2013.06.25 07:41:00 -
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Gate camps aren't ruining PvP, they ARE PvP. Eve PvP isn't about being fair and balanced, it's about using whatever trick you can to screw over the other guy. |
Colt Blackhawk
The Amarrian Expendables
168
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Posted - 2013.06.25 07:59:00 -
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Auduin Samson wrote:Gate camps aren't ruining PvP, they ARE PvP. Eve PvP isn't about being fair and balanced, it's about using whatever trick you can to screw over the other guy.
Ah one of these terrible PVPers running at the first sight of a fight. |
Ynot Eyob
Nisroc Angels The Obsidian Front
328
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Posted - 2013.06.25 11:11:00 -
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Mag's wrote:We do enjoy 'good fights' when they come around, but most of the time we get blobbed.
Oh, thats something new. Better get that in my bio
Nisroc Angels Nisroc - Angel of Freedom Nisroc is known as "The Great Eagle".
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Skelee VI
Wraithguard. BricK sQuAD.
29
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Posted - 2013.06.25 18:41:00 -
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Used to be easier than it is now. Different gates, t3's, hotdrops everywhere.... Only defense is scouting! |
Bastion Arzi
Militant Mermen LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
20
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Posted - 2013.06.26 12:18:00 -
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I got destroyed in a gatecamp in my thrasher yesterday. It was such a blast lol!
Was just venturing out into the surrounding systems when i got chased by 2 assault frigs through two gates. The ****ards managed to herd me straight into thier camp i was totally gutted.
i lost 10mill on the ship and ~100mill in implants
but it was fun |
Meridius Dex
Touring New Eden
3
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Posted - 2013.06.26 14:41:00 -
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It's interesting. After reading the first several pages of this thread I can recall more clearly why I grew sick and tired of the utter lack of strategy in Blob Online the last time I quit, 2 years ago. It's not the OPs post that reminded me necessarily, but the numerous replies that followed.
The fact that instalock gatecamp blobs are still regarded as a 'good mechanic' by the majority of players tells me all I need to know about my consideration of returning to the game after my 5 free days are up. There are better things to do in life than play (and spend my money on) a game that utterly disregards ship-building strategy and personal flying skills in favor of blobbing numbers and ******** mechanics. |
Anna Djan
Banana Corp
17
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Posted - 2013.06.26 15:45:00 -
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Pilot error by not having a 2nd account to scout ;) |
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