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Ciyrine
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.19 03:17:00 -
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a carrier with 100mn MWD. 1 cycle of MWD then turn off the MWD puts the carrier at 75% velocity so it can warp out at the end of the 10 second MWD cycle. but MWD have negative effect on your capacitor
I was wondering if I used a 100mn AB on the carrier. And ran 1 cycle of the AB. How many more seconds of regular acceleration do you think it would take to hit 75% of max velocity to warp out? Im willing to absorbe a few seconds of extra acceleration to warp out to avoid the MWD capacitor hit |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
2660
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Posted - 2013.06.19 03:20:00 -
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Why would you need to warp out fast in a carrier? Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Ciyrine
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.06.19 03:37:00 -
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because neutral enters local and Im solo ratting in a carrier (pretend scenario im not actually in possession of a carrier yet) |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Alpha Strategy The Unthinkables
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Posted - 2013.06.19 03:41:00 -
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Ciyrine wrote:because neutral enters local and Im solo ratting in a carrier (pretend scenario im not actually in possession of a carrier yet) Or you could just...ya know...always be aligned to something. Carriers move slow as ****, and it's not like you are gonna screw up your tracking or anything. |
Setaceous
Nexus Prima
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Posted - 2013.06.19 03:49:00 -
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Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Ciyrine wrote:because neutral enters local and Im solo ratting in a carrier (pretend scenario im not actually in possession of a carrier yet) Or you could just...ya know...always be aligned to something. Carriers move slow as ****, and it's not like you are gonna screw up your tracking or anything. Isn't this piloting 101? |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1608
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Posted - 2013.06.19 07:03:00 -
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no piloting 101 is dont rat in your carrier. |
Setaceous
Nexus Prima
122
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Posted - 2013.06.19 07:20:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:no piloting 101 is dont rat in your carrier. True. Almost as bad as afk mining (insert "hee"meme face emote that this forum doesn't have here) |
Selena Brutor
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.06.19 07:42:00 -
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ITT: Nobody is thinking like a capital pilot. This also goes for the guy in PL, sadly enough. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.19 07:51:00 -
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imo if you're only ratting, you don't need the cap anyway so stick to the mwd for quick warp but really just align to something you can even put your speed at 75% if you are worried about moving away too fast bc already being aligned will always be faster than an mwd anyway
/c
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Selena Brutor
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.19 07:59:00 -
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Why not jump out? This frees you up to use sentries instead of fighters, which is good because fighters suck, really. |
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Nalha Saldana
Syneptics Inc.
721
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Posted - 2013.06.19 08:50:00 -
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Selena Brutor wrote:Why not jump out? This frees you up to use sentries instead of fighters, which is good because fighters suck, really.
This got me thinking, does warp core stabs allow you to jump pointed? Never really tried it. |
Pepper Solette
University of Caille Gallente Federation
161
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Posted - 2013.06.19 12:49:00 -
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The general consensus is to always be aligned and watch local.
I know plenty of people though that have a cyno alt ready to go the moment there is trouble.
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Ciyrine
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.06.19 12:52:00 -
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Selena Brutor wrote:Why not jump out? This frees you up to use sentries instead of fighters, which is good because fighters suck, really.
how long does it take to ramp up a jump?
Quote:Or you could just...ya know...always be aligned to something. Carriers move slow as ****, and it's not like you are gonna screw up your tracking or anything
because if your moving then you cant use sentries which are way better than fighters
Quote:no piloting 101 is dont rat in your carrier
and yet people do it successfully. So...how about my original question. Roughly how much extra time/acceleration would it take to warp off after using 1 cycle of AB? |
Kali Maat
PVP FAST
25
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Posted - 2013.06.19 13:07:00 -
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Ciyrine wrote:and yet people do it successfully. So...how about my original question. Roughly how much extra time/acceleration would it take to warp off after using 1 cycle of AB? log on the test server train the skills/buy the carrier for 1 isk try and compare it yourself |
Ciyrine
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.06.19 13:19:00 -
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its going to take a long time to train the skills so I can try this on Sisi. I need this info so I can decide if I can get away with training just AB in my 2 year skill plan. |
Stonecrusher Mortlock
University of Caille Gallente Federation
158
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Posted - 2013.06.19 13:44:00 -
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Ciyrine wrote:because neutral enters local and Im solo ratting in a carrier (pretend scenario im not actually in possession of a carrier yet)
Remove local, then the nute has no clue your in system.
change all site's to need probes.
d scan for probes.
now your fine. |
Implying Implications
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
394
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Posted - 2013.06.19 13:45:00 -
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Yes you can use an afterburner. I rat with one all the time. sÅ»µä¢püòpü»µ¡út+¬püápÇé |
Ciyrine
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.06.19 13:48:00 -
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how long does it take to warp out? The 10 second cycle time of AB + how much extra time of regular acceleration to hit 75% max velocity? |
l0rd carlos
Friends Of Harassment
484
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Posted - 2013.06.19 14:03:00 -
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If you use a T2 MWD, the cap penalty is less then the meta 4 if the mwd is not running. And because you only want it actived if a neuts enters, it's not that importent. So just stick with a T2 MWD and you are golden.
I tested the 100mn ab on the orca once, did not work out that good. Needed 25 seconds or something like that, compared to the 11 - 12 seconds with mwd. German blog about smallscale lowsec pvp: http://friendsofharassment.wordpress.com |
Commander Ash McCloud
The New Eden People's Front
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Posted - 2013.06.19 14:07:00 -
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Ciyrine wrote:its going to take a long time to train the skills so I can try this on Sisi. I need this info so I can decide if I can get away with training just AB in my 2 year skill plan. Just spend 4-5 days to get High Speed Maneuvering 4. Worth it to always have the option to use a T2 100mn MWD.
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Ciyrine
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.06.19 14:10:00 -
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so the AB took like 10 seconds off the warp time(compared to normal orca align time?)
because the thanatos has like a 28s align time. shortening that by 10s would be 18s align time I might be able to live with that |
Ciyrine
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.06.19 14:10:00 -
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Commander Ash McCloud wrote:Ciyrine wrote:its going to take a long time to train the skills so I can try this on Sisi. I need this info so I can decide if I can get away with training just AB in my 2 year skill plan. Just spend 4-5 days to get High Speed Maneuvering 4. Worth it to always have the option to use a T2 100mn MWD.
and how long to get into a carrier so i can put the AB on it and see how long it takes to warp out? If I had the skills to test this I would have already done it and gotten my answer rather than wadding through 2 pages of random responses and derails.
Im trying to plan my skill plan far enough out to include a tengu(using AB) and thanatos(possibly using AB rather than MWD) saving me some skill training time |
Stetson Eagle
ROC Academy The ROC
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Posted - 2013.06.19 14:54:00 -
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Use sentries, they are better. Jump is instant, and you never use cap during ratting anyhow. You are also further from the spawn except with gardes. This means you have plenty of time to react on neutrals.
Sentry thanatos fit: GÇó 5 drone damage GÇó random low, I use inertia stab GÇó 2 sebo GÇó 3 omnitrack GÇó 5 drone control GÇó 3 drone control range rig
Pvp convertible: Ccc rigs, 3 drone control, 2 drone link.
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Ciyrine
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.06.19 15:22:00 -
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people dont use cap for ratting?
I do plan on using sentries
jumping is instant so as long as I see a neut enter I can be gone instantly? No align time or anything |
BoBoZoBo
Paragon Fury Tactical Narcotics Team
240
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Posted - 2013.06.19 15:35:00 -
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WTF is this thread. Primary Test Subject GÇó SmackTalker Elite |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
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Posted - 2013.06.19 15:57:00 -
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Self destruct is like 2 minutes? No way a neutral could enter local, scan you down, hotdrop and kill you before you explode |
Spurty
898
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Posted - 2013.06.19 16:24:00 -
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Only safe way to rat in a carrier is to stream it on Twitch.tv!
Link your stream in your BIO
Same goes for people that mine and all sorts of roams gangs.
--- GÇ£If you think this Universe is bad, you should see some of the others.GÇ¥ GÇò Philip K. **** |
Stetson Eagle
ROC Academy The ROC
46
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Posted - 2013.06.19 17:43:00 -
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Ciyrine wrote:people dont use cap for ratting?
I do plan on using sentries
jumping is instant so as long as I see a neut enter I can be gone instantly? No align time or anything
Capacitor :) Yep, instant jump if you have capacitor for jump. Sentry ratting doesn't consume it. |
Nikolai Lachance
Happy Wheels Logistics
14
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Posted - 2013.06.19 18:25:00 -
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Based on my calculations which includes the fact that 100MN prop mods are only about 10%-15% effective on carrier-sized ships, a single 10 second pulse of a 100MN MWD is not enough to accelerate a carrier to warping speed. In fact, 2 pulses may not even be enough without some agility boosting. |
Selena Brutor
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2013.06.19 18:31:00 -
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Stetson Eagle wrote:Yep, instant jump if you have capacitor for jump. Sentry ratting doesn't consume it. Well you also need enough fuel to make the jump, and you need a cyno within range to jump to. |
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