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enterprisePSI
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Posted - 2013.06.19 17:30:00 -
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CCP Explorer wrote:enterprisePSI wrote:OMG You no longer support my 15 year old PC, i hate you ccp, im quitting eve, send me isk, and i will double it. edit, if high rez texture and tessellation strikes at the same time, im quitting my job. Another edit, my 5850 is under the recommend specs, yet i can run 2 clients on 2 monitors, @ 1920*1080 everything high. Unless this is about to change. This is not about to change.
So no HD textures The tears of the many, outweight the tears of the few. Or the one. enterprise-psi-¬
I made tweet, Y U NO FOLLOW!!! |
Rebnok
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
37
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Posted - 2013.06.19 17:34:00 -
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Will we start to see a benifit from sli or crossfire technology anytime soon? Also thanks for working to make eve shiny |
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CCP Vertex
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.19 17:36:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:CCP Explorer wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:The only thing that concerns me is the graphics card. I run EVE on a laptop and just don't have the money to buy a proper PC, and under "Graphics Devices" it says I have "Intel(R) HD Graphics". This is running EVE just fine at the moment, but will this change? Don't get me wrong, I'm not about to 'rage quit', but if my machine can't run it then I just simply can't play it. As an underpaid university student atm, buying any new hardware is simply not an option for at least another 12 months. We are not planning now any changes that will make currently usable hardware unusable. We are setting a baseline for the future. So, if you can fly it now, you can fly it after the requirements change, right? :) Not that that simple explanation made it any easier for the short bus crowd last time around...
Correct CCP Vertex-á |-á-áLead Graphics Quality Analyst-á |-á Team Trilambda
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Bug_reporting
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Kyodai Samedi
Interstellar Geographic Society
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Posted - 2013.06.19 17:36:00 -
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Sir John Halsey wrote:No love for MacOS users ... recommeded 8Gb or more RAM? With the new laptops from Apple where you can't upgrade your hardware this doesn't make the future too bright for us :( Unless you are talking Macbook Air (which meet very few of the recommended requirements anyway), all the new laptops from Apple which you can't upgrade already start at 8GB. You cannot get less RAM even if you wanted to. |
Nak hak
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Posted - 2013.06.19 17:43:00 -
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Vender gives less than 30 days notice of hardware changes to customers. What kind of professional standard this? Wait a minute. Oh it's...., not mission critical. Nevermind.
Hay, it's better then a 48 hr notice of a old chip set change. ROFL!
Thanks for the notice. I'll tell my friends, and co-workers.
It's about freedom.
Best Regards, Nak hak |
Fiberton
StarFleet Enterprises Red Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.19 17:48:00 -
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Simple Solution. Do not buy mac. " CASE : SOLVED "
Luc Vertis wrote:Kyodai Samedi wrote: Huh no. Thanks to the very few existing configurations, the drivers for every single piece of hardware on a Mac box are specific to the exact components in that box. So yes, there isn't a whole lot of flexibility on a Mac system, but the drivers are undoubtedly better tuned on a Mac than they are on a Windows box.
CCP is right on this one. You are probably right for every other driver in a Mac, but not for graphics. Even if there is only a few configurations to support, a GPU is probably the most complex chip you can find in a computer. Windows drivers are better because there is hundreds of workers paid by the companies that create GPUs to fine-tune performance for the most known apps out there. This is not easy and it doesn't seem to be done for Mac.
GÇ£Out of clutter, find simplicity. From discord, find harmony. In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity.GÇ¥ -- -áAlbert -áEinstein-á "War is a mere continuation of politics by other means," |
Fleetlord Atvar Boirelle
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.19 17:50:00 -
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I'm still waiting a reply for a petition I have for graphic issues, been a few days now reply would be good. |
Fiberton
StarFleet Enterprises Red Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.19 17:51:00 -
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Shoot me now. 2 years ? ..
CCP Explorer wrote:Sarmatiko wrote:We need more radical changes. Lose Windows XP support, for great justice! Windows XP is still used by a significant portion of EVE players and I would expect it to possibly take up to two years still for them all to upgrade based on current trends.
GÇ£Out of clutter, find simplicity. From discord, find harmony. In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity.GÇ¥ -- -áAlbert -áEinstein-á "War is a mere continuation of politics by other means," |
Fiberton
StarFleet Enterprises Red Alliance
47
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Posted - 2013.06.19 17:52:00 -
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AKA DUMP DirectX9 now :)
Blade dance wrote:I just want to say to all at CCP Thank you!! Thank you for updating things and thank you for your continually making this game better. I can't wait to see what is in store for the future!
It would be nice to see actual damage to ship's hulls, the effects of what a shield looks like reppeling an opponents weapon's volley all in real time, or a more detailed wreck that accurately depicts a shadow of what that wreck once was ( nike capitol ships do currently) .............................Perhaps in the future we will get there However, In the mean time thanks for getting us one step closer!
GÇ£Out of clutter, find simplicity. From discord, find harmony. In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity.GÇ¥ -- -áAlbert -áEinstein-á "War is a mere continuation of politics by other means," |
Fiberton
StarFleet Enterprises Red Alliance
47
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Posted - 2013.06.19 17:57:00 -
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By the time we dump the terrible XP DirectX 9 and get to DirectX 11 we will have walking in stations....I believe I have been waiting since 2006..By that time ive been playing for 2 years...sigh..I still wait...I am a patient man..DirectX10 by 2020 or bust.
BAJRAN BALI wrote:Does this mean DX11 might be coming? I remember CCP did a demo on DX11 a while back.
GÇ£Out of clutter, find simplicity. From discord, find harmony. In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity.GÇ¥ -- -áAlbert -áEinstein-á "War is a mere continuation of politics by other means," |
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CCP Explorer
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.19 17:58:00 -
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Alty MacAlterson wrote:But when will the launcher be supported under Windows 7? If you are experiencing problems with the EVE Launcher then please send us a bug report.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Software Director | EVE Universe, EVE Online // CCP Games | @erlendur |
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Sir John Halsey
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Posted - 2013.06.19 18:00:00 -
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Kyodai Samedi wrote:Sir John Halsey wrote:No love for MacOS users ... recommeded 8Gb or more RAM? With the new laptops from Apple where you can't upgrade your hardware this doesn't make the future too bright for us :( Unless you are talking Macbook Air (which meet very few of the recommended requirements anyway), all the new laptops from Apple which you can't upgrade already start at 8GB. You cannot get less RAM even if you wanted to.
I know. But the "or more" scares me. And i have an rMBP base model with 8Gb which goes to 100C every time i run EVE so, it probably it will die in flames :) |
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CCP Explorer
C C P C C P Alliance
1631
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Posted - 2013.06.19 18:04:00 -
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enterprisePSI wrote:CCP Explorer wrote:enterprisePSI wrote:OMG You no longer support my 15 year old PC, i hate you ccp, im quitting eve, send me isk, and i will double it. edit, if high rez texture and tessellation strikes at the same time, im quitting my job. Another edit, my 5850 is under the recommend specs, yet i can run 2 clients on 2 monitors, @ 1920*1080 everything high. Unless this is about to change. This is not about to change. So no HD textures No final decision either way has been made regarding HD textures.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Software Director | EVE Universe, EVE Online // CCP Games | @erlendur |
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
4635
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Posted - 2013.06.19 18:06:00 -
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Sir John Halsey wrote:Kyodai Samedi wrote:Sir John Halsey wrote:No love for MacOS users ... recommeded 8Gb or more RAM? With the new laptops from Apple where you can't upgrade your hardware this doesn't make the future too bright for us :( Unless you are talking Macbook Air (which meet very few of the recommended requirements anyway), all the new laptops from Apple which you can't upgrade already start at 8GB. You cannot get less RAM even if you wanted to. I know. But the "or more" scares me. And i have an rMBP base model with 8Gb which goes to 100C every time i run EVE so, it probably it will die in flames :)
the good thing about my MBP is that I can also use it as a hair dryer! Gÿà EVE User Interface Programmer Gÿà GÖÑ Team Super Friends GÖÑ GÿÇ-áOn leave until January 2014-áGÿÇ @CCP_Punkturis |
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Molly Molou
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.06.19 18:06:00 -
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I can see no discernible difference in graphics quality since 2007. Yet your garbage programming skills have filled the game with so much junk it now requires a supercomputer to play. Instead of upping the hardware requirements and pushing the costs onto the user-base you should send your programmers on a remedial course.
Start by getting rid of that crappy green fog. |
Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
686
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Posted - 2013.06.19 18:11:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:Sir John Halsey wrote:Kyodai Samedi wrote:Sir John Halsey wrote:No love for MacOS users ... recommeded 8Gb or more RAM? With the new laptops from Apple where you can't upgrade your hardware this doesn't make the future too bright for us :( Unless you are talking Macbook Air (which meet very few of the recommended requirements anyway), all the new laptops from Apple which you can't upgrade already start at 8GB. You cannot get less RAM even if you wanted to. I know. But the "or more" scares me. And i have an rMBP base model with 8Gb which goes to 100C every time i run EVE so, it probably it will die in flames :) the good thing about my MBP is that I can also use it as a hair dryer!
I can use mine to iron shirts while it's running EVE. :P
Gonna need to update the OS to keep doing that, though (still running 10.5.8). Have been using it as a "I'm traveling, need to update skills" machine for the last few years!
Morwen Lagann Director, Tyrathlion Interstellar |
Ager Agemo
Kiith Paktu Curatores Veritatis Alliance
331
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Posted - 2013.06.19 18:23:00 -
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so when will we get multithreading for the client!? when! T_T! |
Unforgiven Storm
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.19 18:27:00 -
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I just wanted to put this in here:
WINDOWS 8 SUCKS!
Thank you, bye. Test 1, 2, 3... |
Fiberton
StarFleet Enterprises Red Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.19 18:34:00 -
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Your Troll is terrible try harder.. off with your head.
" Goes watch more Game of Thrones"
Molly Molou wrote:I can see no discernible difference in graphics quality since 2007. Yet your garbage programming skills have filled the game with so much junk it now requires a supercomputer to play. Instead of upping the hardware requirements and pushing the costs onto the user-base you should send your programmers on a remedial course.
Start by getting rid of that crappy green fog. javascript:if (typeof posting=='undefined'||posting!=true) {posting=true;__doPostBack('forum$ctl00$PostReply','');} GÇ£Out of clutter, find simplicity. From discord, find harmony. In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity.GÇ¥ -- -áAlbert -áEinstein-á "War is a mere continuation of politics by other means," |
Mara Villoso
Big Box
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Posted - 2013.06.19 18:35:00 -
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Regardless of the number of people this will affect, a two to three week advance warning is ridiculous. This is the kind of thing you should give several months lead time. It doesn't mean don't do it, but it does mean give adequate advanced notice so that people can prepare. Buying a new machine or getting involved in upgrades takes at least that long for the non-computer-expert types who play this game.
Considering the lead time you give for ship rebalancing, it's amazing that you wouldn't do it for the machine on which those newly balanced ships are played. This is one of those "someone made a decision somewhere without really talking to everyone" type situations. (and if you're tempted to reply, well we decided X months ago, my reply is, so why didn't you tell anyone?) |
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Tixam Quri
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2013.06.19 18:40:00 -
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Sir John Halsey wrote:No love for MacOS users ... recommeded 8Gb or more RAM?
With the new laptops from Apple where you can't upgrade your hardware this doesn't make the future too bright for us :(
Mac makes me feel claustrophobic.. too locked down for my taste. Been building home gaming rigs for the last 12 years. |
Alkyria Decile
Delstar Corp
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Posted - 2013.06.19 18:45:00 -
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Mara Villoso wrote:Regardless of the number of people this will affect, a two to three week advance warning is ridiculous. This is the kind of thing you should give several months lead time. It doesn't mean don't do it, but it does mean give adequate advanced notice so that people can prepare. Buying a new machine or getting involved in upgrades takes at least that long for the non-computer-expert types who play this game.
Considering the lead time you give for ship rebalancing, it's amazing that you wouldn't do it for the machine on which those newly balanced ships are played. This is one of those "someone made a decision somewhere without really talking to everyone" type situations. (and if you're tempted to reply, well we decided X months ago, my reply is, so why didn't you tell anyone?)
As far as i can tell by whats been said absolutely nothing is changing as far as just the words. No new tech is being deployed, no systems will perform any different than they do now. They are just changing the specs for future considerations mainly as a warning for stuff to come (maybe winter expansion stuff). Unless they do something spectacular and unanounced on the jul 10 patch this is months notice not 3 weeks. |
Sentient Blade
Walk It Off
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Posted - 2013.06.19 18:48:00 -
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CCP Explorer wrote:No final decision either way has been made regarding HD textures.
Can we at least have someone from CCP give us some feedback on the current thoughts, even if they're not final? There's been a lot of people who've contributed to that thread and it would be nice to get something back, even if it's just a "We're investigating it" |
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CCP Vertex
C C P C C P Alliance
181
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Posted - 2013.06.19 18:53:00 -
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Molly Molou wrote:I can see no discernible difference in graphics quality since 2007
You should watch this part of the art panel presentation from Fanfest where we take a look back at at some of the older graphics compared to today: http://youtu.be/5WiRV8DtxO0?t=21m30s CCP Vertex-á |-á-áLead Graphics Quality Analyst-á |-á Team Trilambda
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Bug_reporting
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MaRU2760 133
Veerhouven Ventures
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Posted - 2013.06.19 18:55:00 -
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CCP Explorer wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:The only thing that concerns me is the graphics card. I run EVE on a laptop and just don't have the money to buy a proper PC, and under "Graphics Devices" it says I have "Intel(R) HD Graphics". This is running EVE just fine at the moment, but will this change? Don't get me wrong, I'm not about to 'rage quit', but if my machine can't run it then I just simply can't play it. As an underpaid university student atm, buying any new hardware is simply not an option for at least another 12 months. We are not planning now any changes that will make currently usable hardware unusable. We are setting a baseline for the future.
This seems a little contradictory. From at least one of the posts above, it appears that you have already made at least one change that pushed someone out of the game, but you say if we were able to play, we still can. ??
My computer is a 5 year old Dell with an NVIDIA GeForce 210 video card, and a GT218 GPU. The CPU is an Intel D running at 2.8 GHz. OS is Windoze 7, 64 Bit. I'm not positive that it is single core, but I would say that would be a good bet.
When I started playing, almost 4 years ago, I could run 4 clients, but the 4th one caused noticeable lag. Now, starting a second client causes noticeable lag. So I shut down 3 of my 5 accounts.
Why don't I have a better computer? Because I don't have enough money to buy one. Not trying to wave any flags or anything, but I am a 100% Disabled Veteran. I don't know if you have ever checked, but that status doesn't pay very much.
Eve has kept my mind well occupied ever since I started to play, and I thought I would only give it up when the percentage of griefers got too high, but now it looks like how long I continue to play will be determined by my hardware.
BTW, what makes you think that the new system requirements will only effect a 'few' people? I seriously doubt that you have any idea of who uses what hardware.
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CCP Vertex
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.19 18:56:00 -
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Sentient Blade wrote:CCP Explorer wrote:No final decision either way has been made regarding HD textures. Can we at least have someone from CCP give us some feedback on the current thoughts, even if they're not final? There's been a lot of people who've contributed to that thread and it would be nice to get something back, even if it's just a "We're investigating it"
We really want to do this internally but there are a lot of questions we need to answer first, for example memory management, client performance and package/delivery of the feature. CCP Vertex-á |-á-áLead Graphics Quality Analyst-á |-á Team Trilambda
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Bug_reporting
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Tixam Quri
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2013.06.19 18:58:00 -
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Mara Villoso wrote:Regardless of the number of people this will affect, a two to three week advance warning is ridiculous. This is the kind of thing you should give several months lead time. It doesn't mean don't do it, but it does mean give adequate advanced notice so that people can prepare. Buying a new machine or getting involved in upgrades takes at least that long for the non-computer-expert types who play this game.
Considering the lead time you give for ship rebalancing, it's amazing that you wouldn't do it for the machine on which those newly balanced ships are played. This is one of those "someone made a decision somewhere without really talking to everyone" type situations. (and if you're tempted to reply, well we decided X months ago, my reply is, so why didn't you tell anyone?)
Dev post stated this will have no effect on any current hardware configuration... This is a baseline for the future. Whenever that is has yet to be determined. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
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Posted - 2013.06.19 19:03:00 -
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*slowly sweeps the hard disc to make room for high resolution textures eve style bounties (done) dust boarding parties imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW |
Hyper Visor
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.19 19:08:00 -
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Despite Windows 8's numerous faults as an intuitive/usable OS. I can confirm after 6 months of playing EVE on Win8 with my T420 Thinkpad, I've experienced zero issues so far. |
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CCP Vertex
C C P C C P Alliance
181
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Posted - 2013.06.19 19:11:00 -
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MaRU2760 133 wrote:This seems a little contradictory. From at least one of the posts above, it appears that you have already made at least one change that pushed someone out of the game, but you say if we were able to play, we still can. ??
None of the Minimum/Recommended specification changes will stop hardware from working right now, what it will change is what CCP is prepared to support. For example if you have NVIDIA 7600 GTS GPU, this card now falls below the minimum specifications for the game.
This doesnGÇÖt mean that the card will suddenly stop working with EVE but if there is an issue only found on the 7600 GTS then CCP will not invest the time/resources investigating and resolving the issue as that hardware falls outside of what we support.
MaRU2760 133 wrote: Eve has kept my mind well occupied ever since I started to play, and I thought I would only give it up when the percentage of griefers got too high, but now it looks like how long I continue to play will be determined by my hardware.
I am very glad to hear you enjoy EVE so much and we donGÇÖt want hardware changes to ever force people to stop playing the game they love but inevitably hardware will dictate how long you can play if your hardware never changes.
EVE is a sandbox game that we try to keep fresh and up to date, with that comes additional graphic features and subsequently higher processing requirements.
MaRU2760 133 wrote: BTW, what makes you think that the new system requirements will only effect a 'few' people? I seriously doubt that you have any idea of who uses what hardware.
We actually keep a close eye on what hardware users are using to play EVE on, it is these metrics that we base changes such as the minimum/recommended specification from. CCP Vertex-á |-á-áLead Graphics Quality Analyst-á |-á Team Trilambda
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Bug_reporting
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