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Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
963
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Posted - 2013.06.28 18:29:00 -
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In my country, Police never stop you unless you look milkable enough to get bribe money off. Also people on bikes are a PLAGUE in my country, they all are mostly criminals, armed to the teeth, and unlike the video, would stab/shoot you for the sheer fun of it knowing NO SANE COP WOULD EVER follow them inside the slums.
Only way someone would be able to get in the slums is with a tank and air support or heavily protected by local thugs.
In some countries police react brutally, in others people react brutally to cops.
There is no middle ground. This is the reality we live in. Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco |
Tumahub
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1869
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Posted - 2013.06.28 19:05:00 -
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Brujo Loco wrote: In some countries police react brutally, in others people react brutally to cops.
There is no middle ground. This is the reality we live in.
Partially true, but I beg to differ on the point that I don't see this as a trade-off. Police brutality and organized crime go hand in hand. During the height of prohibition in the US, when federal agents were given leeway to do just about anything in the name of shutting down bootleggers, there was a massive boom in organized criminality and the national murder rate doubled. During that era families with strong ties to organized crime gained a substantial amount of money from the then-illegal trade and turned those fortunes into political dynasties (ie. Kennedy Sr.).
Same story plays out in reverse elsewhere. During the mafioso wars in southern Italy/Sicily the state seemed completely powerless to do anything about it. Fast forward to around the second world war, where the state had plenty of fire-power and martial control to tamp down on any unrest, and you find that the mafia was going strong. In fact it's been well documented that the mafia worked with both allied and axis leadership to kill their enemies and terrorize enemy civilian populations.
So while I do agree that socialist law enforcement is fairly universal in the world today and that you have brutal people on both sides of the blue line, I don't think there's any reasonable case to be made that we need ultra-judicial-power in the hands of a few in order to prevent the criminally insane from running amok. Just eliminate the prohibition on drugs and you relieve most criminal syndicates of their income (which is exactly what happened when alcohol prohibition ended) and free up the police from a lot of work. 92% of criminals in US prisons are in for non-violent crime. |
Ten Ton Testes
Aerodyne Collective. WHY so Seri0Us
0
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Posted - 2013.06.29 11:38:00 -
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Tumahub wrote:Most people, smartly, do not antagonize the uniformed thug who can quite literally get away with murder.
How incredibly ignorant. You assume that all police are thugs?
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Q 5
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
89
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Posted - 2013.06.30 21:39:00 -
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could you imagine if it was a real biker and not a scooter biker....sheesh hate to see one of those guys if a scooter biker pulls a knife a real Harley biker in China pulls out a????
He's got balls tho, them Chinese gulags aren't no joke, waaahka, slapped with a karate slap. |
Tumahub
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2037
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Posted - 2013.06.30 21:52:00 -
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Ten Ton Testes wrote:Tumahub wrote:Most people, smartly, do not antagonize the uniformed thug who can quite literally get away with murder. How incredibly ignorant. You assume that all police are thugs?
That wasn't implied in the statement you quoted. What was implied is the fact that a uniform generally means getting off with a reduced sentence instead of the full penalty of the law, which is applied to civilians.
Ignorance would be to ignore the fact that huge amounts of extrajudicial power in the hands of these uniformed men and women isn't corrupting them. |
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
677
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Posted - 2013.07.01 21:39:00 -
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Although Blackwater has private contracts with private firms, it was started by ex US Military and Intelligence officers for the sole purpose of gaining lucrative military security contracts that could have been done in house. All other 'domestic' contracts were icing on the cake. Also, the fact that they do 'it' more efficiently then the US Military, speaks volumes about the state of the US military and its leadership imho
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Ten Ton Testes wrote:Tumahub wrote:Most people, smartly, do not antagonize the uniformed thug who can quite literally get away with murder. How incredibly ignorant. You assume that all police are thugs?
Tumahub responded effectively enough, but the fact that you inferred what you did speaks volumes about your comprehension skills. |
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
1978
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Posted - 2013.07.01 22:31:00 -
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Slade Trillgon wrote:Although Blackwater has private contracts with private firms, it was started by ex US Military and Intelligence officers for the sole purpose of gaining lucrative military security contracts that could have been done in house. All other 'domestic' contracts were icing on the cake. Also, the fact that they do 'it' more efficiently then the US Military, speaks volumes about the state of the US military and its leadership imho
At least you understand that they do have contracts with private firms.
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Tumahub
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2110
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Posted - 2013.07.01 22:36:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:Slade Trillgon wrote:Although Blackwater has private contracts with private firms, it was started by ex US Military and Intelligence officers for the sole purpose of gaining lucrative military security contracts that could have been done in house. All other 'domestic' contracts were icing on the cake. Also, the fact that they do 'it' more efficiently then the US Military, speaks volumes about the state of the US military and its leadership imho At least you understand that they do have contracts with private firms.
And that in no way conflicts with anything I posted earlier.
Without public contracts through DoD, blackwater would not exist as in its current form. So to use it as a cudgel against any kind of private security is a strawman argument. |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
326
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Posted - 2013.07.01 22:55:00 -
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Slade Trillgon wrote:Although Blackwater has private contracts with private firms, it was started by ex US Military and Intelligence officers for the sole purpose of gaining lucrative military security contracts that could have been done in house. All other 'domestic' contracts were icing on the cake. Also, the fact that they do 'it' more efficiently then the US Military, speaks volumes about the state of the US military and its leadership imho I distinctly recall a Congressional primer being released showing the ridiculous amount of money that the Pentagon pisses away on some pretty insane stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with the military. For some examples: http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/341573/pentagon-budget-beef-jerky-trekkie-conventions-and-17000-drip-pans
I can't be assed to find the original document right this second, but it should be easy to find with a little effort. It basically read like 40+ .pdf pages of "wtf, are you serious?" |
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
1978
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Posted - 2013.07.01 23:31:00 -
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Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:Slade Trillgon wrote:Although Blackwater has private contracts with private firms, it was started by ex US Military and Intelligence officers for the sole purpose of gaining lucrative military security contracts that could have been done in house. All other 'domestic' contracts were icing on the cake. Also, the fact that they do 'it' more efficiently then the US Military, speaks volumes about the state of the US military and its leadership imho I distinctly recall a Congressional primer being released showing the ridiculous amount of money that the Pentagon pisses away on some pretty insane stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with the military. For some examples: http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/341573/pentagon-budget-beef-jerky-trekkie-conventions-and-17000-drip-pansI can't be assed to find the original document right this second, but it should be easy to find with a little effort. It basically read like 40+ .pdf pages of "wtf, are you serious?"
yep, the old saying that the government spends $40 on a bolt and a $1000 on a ladder isn't far from the truth. Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel IG OOPE |
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Hetalia Villen
Serenity. CORP. Diggers Inc.
1
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Posted - 2013.07.03 04:38:00 -
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Malaclypse Muscaria wrote:
Man, EPIC just EPIC... I really hope those cops were getting overtime or something... Watch me blunder about in Faction Warfare @-áNoobShipGo
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Slade Trillgon
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
679
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Posted - 2013.07.05 12:21:00 -
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There are many good officers and few bad cops. Unfortunately the weak link typically breaks the chain. That being said I will present a footage of officers that went through normal protocol and ultimately made the right decision to save the life of an innocent child.
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
943
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Posted - 2013.07.05 12:35:00 -
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Tumahub wrote:Most people, smartly, do not antagonize the uniformed thug who can quite literally get away with murder.
For us Europeans knowing or being interested on US people uses laws rights etc, it's a very strange world full of antagonisms at all levels, interesting but yeah very intriguing. *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
280
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Posted - 2013.07.05 14:25:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote: I don't buy that. I think the number of people who are killed by police in the US a year is something like 400-500 or like one for every half million people.
If that was the same here in the UK then in no time we'd have no Venuzuelan electricians available to hire... GÇ£No man ought to commit his life into the hands of that Physician, who is ignorant of Astrologic: because he is a Physician of no value.GÇ¥ - Nicholas Culpeper |
Tumahub
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2323
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Posted - 2013.07.05 18:22:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Tumahub wrote:Most people, smartly, do not antagonize the uniformed thug who can quite literally get away with murder. For us Europeans knowing or being interested on US people uses laws rights etc, it's a very strange world full of antagonisms at all levels, interesting but yeah very intriguing.
Just imagine a world in which common law is sneered at and the rights of individuals are always second to the "safety of the officer/official," and you should be able to predict the outcomes of most cases between individual and state 99% of the time. |
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