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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.29 14:00:00 -
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Rosewalker wrote:For those who don't understand why this is a troll, the off-line Warcraft series was Warcraft: Orcs & Humans, Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness and Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos.
Which represented: Warcraft 1 = vanilla; Warcraft 2 = TBC; Warcraft 3 = WotLK in WoW.
That I have to point that out means, you know you're trolling. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Rosewalker
Khumaak Flying Circus
26
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Posted - 2013.06.29 14:21:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Rosewalker wrote:For those who don't understand why this is a troll, the off-line Warcraft series was Warcraft: Orcs & Humans, Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness and Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos. Which represented: Warcraft 1 = vanilla; Warcraft 2 = TBC; Warcraft 3 = WotLK in WoW. That I have to point that out means, you know you're trolling.
You're really good, Mr. Troll So with that I'll leave you to protecting your bridge.
The Nosy Gamer - Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength - Eric Hoffer |
Lipbite
Express Hauler
695
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Posted - 2013.06.29 14:29:00 -
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EVE is nothing like WoW. Gallentians don't resemble elves and their love for nature and green colors, Minmatar don't resemble brutal Orcs, Caldari aren't pale as humans and Amarr have nothing in common with gold-loving dwarfs.
Capacitor batteries aren't mana pots and shield boosters / armor reppers aren't healing spells.
Off-grid boosters aren't druids / shamans with buffs.
Recons aren't warlocks with debuffs.
Logis aren't priests.
See - EVE is completely original game. I don't know how could you find any parallels with WoW. |
Krazynikomo
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
67
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Posted - 2013.06.29 14:30:00 -
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I like how OP hates grinding missions, but still grinds missions, instead of going and shooting at people or something. |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
321
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Posted - 2013.06.29 14:34:00 -
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Lipbite wrote:EVE is nothing like WoW. Gallentians don't resemble elves and their love for nature and green colors, Minmatar don't resemble brutal Orcs, Caldari aren't pale as humans and Amarr have nothing in common with gold-loving dwarfs.
I actually made my main toon after Amarr for not only looking similar to my WoW main, the Amarr religious background matches a paladin to a tee. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
10442
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Posted - 2013.06.29 14:40:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Lipbite wrote:EVE is nothing like WoW. Gallentians don't resemble elves and their love for nature and green colors, Minmatar don't resemble brutal Orcs, Caldari aren't pale as humans and Amarr have nothing in common with gold-loving dwarfs. I actually made my main toon after Amarr for not only looking similar to my WoW main, the Amarr religious background matches a paladin to a tee.
Ah yes, slavery enforced by fatal residual poison, that well known foundation of the Paladin's lifestyle.
1 Kings 12:11
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Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
410
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Posted - 2013.06.29 15:11:00 -
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Khira Kitamatsu wrote:Six Six Six wrote:All MMOs that I've played have a grinding element within them.
I don't consider EVE being the same as WoW, but than I left WoW just before the Panda invasion.
Can't you just buy the tags from the market? Sure...I can waste millions on buying tags - that is not the issue. The issue is I should have a reasonable alternative...not a sadistic, twisted, one....a reasonable one. That is not the case. You try and go collect the required tags needed for the Data Center missions and tell me it is reasonable.
You don't "HAVE" to fix your standings.
How much more reasonable can it get? "Never rub another man's rhubarb." -Joker in Batman (Jack Nicholson) Just get a catalyst, blow him up and the post in local "Just a friendly reminder that I'm mining here and not you." -Abrazzar
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Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
410
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Posted - 2013.06.29 15:14:00 -
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Eve would be closer to older Everquest than WoW since factions have a =/- element to it based on your actions.
But even then, the only thing that even resembles it is the fact you do have to grind. And that's to all MMOs since the consequences of your actions carry more weight than the crime itself.
Welcome to the life of consequential actions. "Never rub another man's rhubarb." -Joker in Batman (Jack Nicholson) Just get a catalyst, blow him up and the post in local "Just a friendly reminder that I'm mining here and not you." -Abrazzar
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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
322
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Posted - 2013.06.29 15:27:00 -
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Murk Paradox wrote:Eve would be closer to older Everquest than WoW since factions have a =/- element to it based on your actions.
WoW was made with the help of 2 EQ raid leaders. ;)
There's some hat tips in WoW to the game as well (let alone the human starting world resembles EQ/EQII's starting areas).
Who knows there might be some to EvE one day (and that's possible if Blizzard keeps returning to TBC themes -- they have space goats that crashed landed on Azeroth and their story is still not filled out). "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
410
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Posted - 2013.06.29 15:33:00 -
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Deano McCandless wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Sri Nova wrote: but that really depends on how view things and unfortunately i am unable to see pass my own prejudice aginst wow.
When you play both games, you'll see they're not that much different in scope. So when I see comments about WoW is easier, I know that's untrue from experience. Actual game play is harder in WoW, EvE has higher consequences. So they balance each other out on the difficulty meter. Now on the crafting side...yeah, EvE is m-u-c-h more comprehensive. No cutting 20 stacks of gems by a mailbox deal in EvE. How does one infiltrate a Guild in WoW, steal everything, close it down, make half a dozen players quit for life, and not only not get banned but get a big pat on the back by the GMs for original thinking? I said to my mom I said "Hey, mom, what's up with all the sauerkraut?" And my dear, sweet mother She just looked at me like a cow looks at an oncoming train, and she leaned right down next to me and she said, "IT'S GOOD FOR YOU!!!"
Guild Banks.
I've "awoxed" quite a few guilds in my day in WoW. You'd be suprised how many enchantment recipes and stacks of gems were considered important at one time.
(This is all pre 3.0 since WOTLK and forward has since made me quit the game). "Never rub another man's rhubarb." -Joker in Batman (Jack Nicholson) Just get a catalyst, blow him up and the post in local "Just a friendly reminder that I'm mining here and not you." -Abrazzar
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Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
410
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Posted - 2013.06.29 15:34:00 -
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AndromacheDarkstar wrote:I hate to say it but this guy does have a really good point. The grind for faction standings is completely ridiculous. I was part of amarr FW for about 6 months and still i somehow have almost -5 standings with the amarr empire.
THe lowest sec status i ever reached while living in low sec was -5.9 ( i never ground sec back up either ) and yet my standings with every single race in the game are at least -4.
The work required to fix that now in comparison to the new tag system for sec status just dosent make any sense and i really think the two need to be bought in line with eachother.
Theres an app for that. (Skill). "Never rub another man's rhubarb." -Joker in Batman (Jack Nicholson) Just get a catalyst, blow him up and the post in local "Just a friendly reminder that I'm mining here and not you." -Abrazzar
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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
322
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Posted - 2013.06.29 16:26:00 -
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Murk Paradox wrote:Guild Banks.
I've "awoxed" quite a few guilds in my day in WoW. You'd be suprised how many enchantment recipes and stacks of gems were considered important at one time.
(This is all pre 3.0 since WOTLK and forward has since made me quit the game).
Can still do that, but the Guild Master can just send in a ticket to have the bank reset (thieving like that isn't tolerated).
The worst isn't even that it's ninjaing a rare mount like the ashes or the blades from Tempest Keep (extremely low % drop). THAT would cause bad blood. Usually GMs don't get involved in player disputes -- which is also why in LFR and in 5.4 the new "mid" raids have goodie bags for loot (no more master looter tomfoolery).
So if you want to be a criminal in WoW what's left is ninjaing and paying $10 for a name change. But if someone recognizes you again after stealing something like the ashes...remember Blizzard had a death threat notice stickied in their general forums... "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Fairren
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
38
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Posted - 2013.06.29 17:08:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:
You didn't know that when I was on the WoW forums, I was posting about the features like in EvE.
Links?
De'Veldrin wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:De'Veldrin wrote:
The question I'd really like answered is this one:
If you dislike Eve as much as you appear to on the forums, why are you still playing it? I mean that seriously. Why are you subjecting yourself to a voluntary experience that you dislike that much? Do you also routinely volunteer for skin abrasions, public flogging, and being water boarded?
Been asking that question for years, and never once got answer let alone a rational one. I doubt you'll get answer as well. I know. I never get an answer either. Usually just misdirection, an abrupt change of subject, or an ad hominem. But I keep trying. Hope is a virtue, even when it chances to be misplaced.
It happened again...again.
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Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
410
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Posted - 2013.07.01 13:50:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:The problem is people like you who go into other games and bascially beg for it to change into WoW. It's like you're the freaking borg of WoW (Worg?) or something. Why can't you types leave us alone to love out hard core game while you ride the rides of your favorite theme park? Do we come into WoW and say Damn, this place needs Rifters, Cynos and hotdrops!!"? Quote: PR wise, you're not helping EvE.
EVE needs my help? But you don't see, I and others like me ARE helping EVE by being EVE players and explaining to people what this game is, why it's unique, why it's cold, dark and harsh, and why it should always be that way, unlike the 1000s of thempark MMOs out there. We help EVE by keeping the numbers of over-sensitive, over-indulged welfare/themepark crowd in EVE to an absolute minimum. Real EVE players are of a more hardy mental stock than most MMO gamers, able to take losses that would mentally crush your average gamers and shrug it off as merely "pixels" and the cost of doing business. These are they kinds of people who should play EVE, the kinds of people we enjoy being around. The EVE community is like a local D&D gamer group writ large: (Mostly) serious gamers only. Quote: Time to take a chill pill, and just acknowledge the 800lb gorilla in the room exists, accept it and strive to make EvE at least equal in quality and performance (if anything Blizzard has is really good production standards, as they're the MMO leader and any slip they get chewed out for...which is why competition is healthy, especially for gamers as gamers get better games!).
Screw Blizzard and thempark MMOs and most gamers. Viva EVE (or EVE Libre....Libre it from these damn Wowbears) lol.
Shame on you for using a Worg as a WoW referrence while mentioning D&D in the same post!
Take it back take it back! "Never rub another man's rhubarb." -Joker in Batman (Jack Nicholson) Just get a catalyst, blow him up and the post in local "Just a friendly reminder that I'm mining here and not you." -Abrazzar
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
508
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Posted - 2013.07.01 13:52:00 -
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Murk Paradox wrote:
Shame on you for using a Worg as a WoW referrence while mentioning D&D in the same post!
Take it back take it back!
Shame on you for suggesting they originated in D&D
and not Tolkien
Tell The Others |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
294
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Posted - 2013.07.01 13:54:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote: Can still do that, but the Guild Master can just send in a ticket to have the bank reset (thieving like that isn't tolerated).
The worst isn't even that it's ninjaing a rare mount like the ashes or the blades from Tempest Keep (extremely low % drop). THAT would cause bad blood. Usually GMs don't get involved in player disputes -- which is also why in LFR and in 5.4 the new "mid" raids have goodie bags for loot (no more master looter tomfoolery).
So if you want to be a criminal in WoW what's left is ninjaing and paying $10 for a name change. But if someone recognizes you again after stealing something like the ashes...remember Blizzard had a death threat notice stickied in their general forums...
That was actually what put me on the path to quitting WoW. We had someone dupe our GM into letting a thief into the corp and giving them bank access by claiming to be an officer alt. It sucked, but part of me cheered for the guy for being smart enough to put one over on a gullible person. The GM filed a ticket, the stuff was returned within 12 hours, and the person who committed the theft got banned.
I genuinely dislike the idea of protecting idiots from themselves. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
357
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Posted - 2013.07.01 13:56:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:
Shame on you for using a Worg as a WoW referrence while mentioning D&D in the same post!
Take it back take it back!
Shame on you for suggesting they originated in D&D and not Tolkien
I gotta go even farther on you, and mention Vargr, the term for the dread hounds, sons of Fenrir the spawn of Loki.
Norse, baby! Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
509
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Posted - 2013.07.01 13:59:00 -
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Gallowmere Rorschach wrote: WoW.
our GM
the corp
bank access
officer alt.
The GM filed a ticket
I genuinely dislike the idea of protecting idiots from themselves.
This is how to make a mixed metaphor in the world of MMOs
But I agree, both in games and in that other game called RL those who are scammed
should go to jail because they are enabling criminal activity
Just like drug users
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Lost True
Paradise project
2346
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:02:00 -
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Khira Kitamatsu wrote:I feel like I am playing World of Warcraft grinding for faction points. Did a few too many missions against Gallente Federation and my rating took a beating. Now I find myself grinding rats and missions to find tags so that I can turn them in to fix my rating with the Gallente. The problem is - the tags don't drop! What I have learned is - this is just like WoW...no it is worse than WOW - and out WoW's - WoW! In world of Warcraft you can grind for certain things to turn in to NPC's to fix your rating(or grind mobs), but in EVE the drop rate for tags is beyond abysmal - it is pathetic. At least in WoW the drop rates for the items you need is bearable and you won't pull your hair out while grinding for them. In EVE - fraking good luck finding the tags you need. In WoW, killing members of an opposing faction at least gives you points that go toward earning a good rating with the faction you are trying to improve your rating with. In EVE - doesn't matter how many you kill or how many missions you run. They don't count. Only certain missions count. So this is what I learned. You can run 16 level 1 missions. After your 16th mission you will be offered a special mission. Finish the mission and earn a whole whopping .03 points toward fixing your rating! Or...go hunt rats...for hours and hours....and hours...and hours...days....weeks...months...and get them tags! TAGS THAT DO NOT DROP!!! Or...hey I know, like in WoW we can go buy what we need off the auction house or in this case - any market that someone is selling the "tags"(that do not drop). Yes...like WoW I can easily go to a market and spend a nice little fortune on the items I require to turn in to the NPC's to earn my faction rating back...just like - you guessed it - WoW! This is why it reminds me of WoW...because WoW has things like this in it - things that become a grind - grinding is bad mmm'kay. Oh...and why is it that when it comes to finding the tags I need, all but the ones I need drop?! I find all manner of tags I don't need. Don't need Fed tags - they drop by the bushel. Don't need Blood tags...not a problem...run a few missions and you have hundreds filling your cargo hold. Forget COSMOS - you have to have a minimum of 0.0 rating to even get them to talk to you...which kinda of defeats the whole purpose of COSMOS - in that they were put in place to help repair your rating! Who thought this up? Seriously...what brain surgeon put his together? If I want to grind...I'd go play WoW! This is suppose to be EVE and EVE is not suppose to be like WoW and yet, here I am, on the forum boards of EVE having to point out that EVE isn't so far from WoW as many people would have you believe. So I ask you...tell me how EVE is the furthest thing from WoW. I love EVE...but Heyzoozs on a fricking stick...did you have to put such a horrendous grind into the one game that isn't suppose to be like all the others - especially that one other game? Frak! Well... For me, there's only one thing where i make something - Skillpoints. PvE, PvP is pointless. I don't want to show anything in PvP(and what can i? Yet another KB profile). And PvE... Well, i'm not here to grind for isk. There's also some meaning to run missions - standings, but it's not enough and too boring.
So... most of the time i'm just switching skills, chatting, and rarely doing some stuff for a little.
It's kinda strange... I'm VERY LIKE EVE, i'm paying for it, i have a godlike characters, and i'm not planning to quit.... But when i want to play, i play Star Trek Online... in 2007 i've thought it's a sci-fi simulator, not an "e-sports" game. I'm not a teenager, how would i like it much?
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RomeStar
Empire Investments Logistics
202
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:22:00 -
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I sold my wow accounts which paid for my first and almost 2nd year of EVE. Thank you blizzard. Signatured removed, CCP Phantom |
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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
336
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:27:00 -
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Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:That was actually what put me on the path to quitting WoW. We had someone dupe our GM into letting a thief into the corp and giving them bank access by claiming to be an officer alt. It sucked, but part of me cheered for the guy for being smart enough to put one over on a gullible person. The GM filed a ticket, the stuff was returned within 12 hours, and the person who committed the theft got banned.
I genuinely dislike the idea of protecting idiots from themselves.
You were ready to leave because you couldn't play by the rules. WoW has rules on scams and exploits.
I'm ready to leave over mechanics that changed what I came to play in the first place from EQII. Cata's 4.0.1 took all that was fun out of healing out, and replaced it with a gating mechanic, now I spend more time trying to generate holy power to heal, than healing itself. It's borked and NOT fun. I tried up and down to convince Blizzard that specialization is important, no, they want everyone to be able to do everything. Like folks are generic faceless pointmen. All that effort and time made worthless.
Just want 3.3.5 back (pristine servers), to tank heal, and to return to what was 24/7 25man raids...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX13vYvon6I
All I could do is wear my transmorg T10 hearthed in Dalaran and hope Blizzard comes to their senses. I'll gladly transfer my toon to a WotLK only realm and be happy, truly.
Until then play other games. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
10475
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:27:00 -
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Lost True wrote:Khira Kitamatsu wrote:I feel like I am playing World of Warcraft grinding for faction points. Did a few too many missions against Gallente Federation and my rating took a beating. Now I find myself grinding rats and missions to find tags so that I can turn them in to fix my rating with the Gallente. The problem is - the tags don't drop! What I have learned is - this is just like WoW...no it is worse than WOW - and out WoW's - WoW! In world of Warcraft you can grind for certain things to turn in to NPC's to fix your rating(or grind mobs), but in EVE the drop rate for tags is beyond abysmal - it is pathetic. At least in WoW the drop rates for the items you need is bearable and you won't pull your hair out while grinding for them. In EVE - fraking good luck finding the tags you need. In WoW, killing members of an opposing faction at least gives you points that go toward earning a good rating with the faction you are trying to improve your rating with. In EVE - doesn't matter how many you kill or how many missions you run. They don't count. Only certain missions count. So this is what I learned. You can run 16 level 1 missions. After your 16th mission you will be offered a special mission. Finish the mission and earn a whole whopping .03 points toward fixing your rating! Or...go hunt rats...for hours and hours....and hours...and hours...days....weeks...months...and get them tags! TAGS THAT DO NOT DROP!!! Or...hey I know, like in WoW we can go buy what we need off the auction house or in this case - any market that someone is selling the "tags"(that do not drop). Yes...like WoW I can easily go to a market and spend a nice little fortune on the items I require to turn in to the NPC's to earn my faction rating back...just like - you guessed it - WoW! This is why it reminds me of WoW...because WoW has things like this in it - things that become a grind - grinding is bad mmm'kay. Oh...and why is it that when it comes to finding the tags I need, all but the ones I need drop?! I find all manner of tags I don't need. Don't need Fed tags - they drop by the bushel. Don't need Blood tags...not a problem...run a few missions and you have hundreds filling your cargo hold. Forget COSMOS - you have to have a minimum of 0.0 rating to even get them to talk to you...which kinda of defeats the whole purpose of COSMOS - in that they were put in place to help repair your rating! Who thought this up? Seriously...what brain surgeon put his together? If I want to grind...I'd go play WoW! This is suppose to be EVE and EVE is not suppose to be like WoW and yet, here I am, on the forum boards of EVE having to point out that EVE isn't so far from WoW as many people would have you believe. So I ask you...tell me how EVE is the furthest thing from WoW. I love EVE...but Heyzoozs on a fricking stick...did you have to put such a horrendous grind into the one game that isn't suppose to be like all the others - especially that one other game? Frak! Well... For me, there's only one thing where i make something - Skillpoints. PvE, PvP is pointless. I don't want to show anything in PvP(and what can i? Yet another KB profile). And PvE... Well, i'm not here to grind for isk. There's also some meaning to run missions - standings, but it's not enough and too boring. So... most of the time i'm just switching skills, chatting, and rarely doing some stuff for a little. It's kinda strange... I'm VERY LIKE EVE, i'm paying for it, i have a godlike characters, and i'm not planning to quit.... But when i want to play, i play Star Trek Online...
What meaning are you finding in ST:O that you don't find in EVE?
1 Kings 12:11
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
510
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:29:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:
What meaning are you finding in ST:O that you don't find in EVE?
Maybe he finds the mandatory XP Grind for crew in STO different from the optional rep grind in EvE
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Lost True
Paradise project
2346
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:51:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Lost True wrote:Khira Kitamatsu wrote:I feel like I am playing World of Warcraft grinding for faction points. Did a few too many missions against Gallente Federation and my rating took a beating. Now I find myself grinding rats and missions to find tags so that I can turn them in to fix my rating with the Gallente. The problem is - the tags don't drop! What I have learned is - this is just like WoW...no it is worse than WOW - and out WoW's - WoW! In world of Warcraft you can grind for certain things to turn in to NPC's to fix your rating(or grind mobs), but in EVE the drop rate for tags is beyond abysmal - it is pathetic. At least in WoW the drop rates for the items you need is bearable and you won't pull your hair out while grinding for them. In EVE - fraking good luck finding the tags you need. In WoW, killing members of an opposing faction at least gives you points that go toward earning a good rating with the faction you are trying to improve your rating with. In EVE - doesn't matter how many you kill or how many missions you run. They don't count. Only certain missions count. So this is what I learned. You can run 16 level 1 missions. After your 16th mission you will be offered a special mission. Finish the mission and earn a whole whopping .03 points toward fixing your rating! Or...go hunt rats...for hours and hours....and hours...and hours...days....weeks...months...and get them tags! TAGS THAT DO NOT DROP!!! Or...hey I know, like in WoW we can go buy what we need off the auction house or in this case - any market that someone is selling the "tags"(that do not drop). Yes...like WoW I can easily go to a market and spend a nice little fortune on the items I require to turn in to the NPC's to earn my faction rating back...just like - you guessed it - WoW! This is why it reminds me of WoW...because WoW has things like this in it - things that become a grind - grinding is bad mmm'kay. Oh...and why is it that when it comes to finding the tags I need, all but the ones I need drop?! I find all manner of tags I don't need. Don't need Fed tags - they drop by the bushel. Don't need Blood tags...not a problem...run a few missions and you have hundreds filling your cargo hold. Forget COSMOS - you have to have a minimum of 0.0 rating to even get them to talk to you...which kinda of defeats the whole purpose of COSMOS - in that they were put in place to help repair your rating! Who thought this up? Seriously...what brain surgeon put his together? If I want to grind...I'd go play WoW! This is suppose to be EVE and EVE is not suppose to be like WoW and yet, here I am, on the forum boards of EVE having to point out that EVE isn't so far from WoW as many people would have you believe. So I ask you...tell me how EVE is the furthest thing from WoW. I love EVE...but Heyzoozs on a fricking stick...did you have to put such a horrendous grind into the one game that isn't suppose to be like all the others - especially that one other game? Frak! Well... For me, there's only one thing where i make something - Skillpoints. PvE, PvP is pointless. I don't want to show anything in PvP(and what can i? Yet another KB profile). And PvE... Well, i'm not here to grind for isk. There's also some meaning to run missions - standings, but it's not enough and too boring. So... most of the time i'm just switching skills, chatting, and rarely doing some stuff for a little. It's kinda strange... I'm VERY LIKE EVE, i'm paying for it, i have a godlike characters, and i'm not planning to quit.... But when i want to play, i play Star Trek Online... What meaning are you finding in ST:O that you don't find in EVE?
I don't want to think about all of those things, i'm just saying how it is. I said that it's strange... I like EVE, but not playing EVE :) Maybe because it has PvE, maybe i've tired of grinding ISK.
Yes, there's many things you can do in EVE, but what will you do, if you don't want to PvP and don't need ISK(we're all want to make as high sp/hours-in-game as possible, right? $->plex->market have the best isk/hour) in 2007 i've thought it's a sci-fi simulator, not an "e-sports" game. I'm not a teenager, how would i like it much?
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Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
410
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:55:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Kult Altol wrote:As a CCP carebear fanboi I do believe eve came out first before wow, and had missions. So if anything blizzard copied CCP. WoW is a web version of the Warcraft series (I vanilla / II TBC / III WotLK) that came before even Ultima came online (the first MMO). When folks say it's old, it's old. Only older MMO with pre-1996 internet presence would be DDO, with it's ties with D&D (now that's older than dirt, where the RPG all began).
WoW is a variant of Everquest (Furor and Tigole LEFT Everquest to go work for Blizzard) using Warcraft's storyline.
Everquest came before Eve. Eve came before WoW.
Eve was one of like 5? 7? games that came out in that time that "threatened" EQ's existence. I remember trying Eve back then but I did not like the longterm mechanics at that time (I needed much more instant gratification) but have come to appreciate it now.
Not that I've been playing for 10 years or anything, only about 1, but I am a returning player since I don't like hardcore raiding and do not feel the need to be on cutting edge of progression anymore.
Now Eve's meta-universe is very much enjoyable.
WoW and Eve are NOTHING alike. At, all. "Never rub another man's rhubarb." -Joker in Batman (Jack Nicholson) Just get a catalyst, blow him up and the post in local "Just a friendly reminder that I'm mining here and not you." -Abrazzar
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Murk Paradox
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Posted - 2013.07.01 14:57:00 -
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Rosewalker wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Kult Altol wrote:As a CCP carebear fanboi I do believe eve came out first before wow, and had missions. So if anything blizzard copied CCP. WoW is a web version of the Warcraft series (I vanilla / II TBC / III WotLK) that came before even Ultima came online (the first MMO). When folks say it's old, it's old. Only older MMO with pre-1996 internet presence would be DDO, with it's ties with D&D (now that's older than dirt, where the RPG all began). For those who don't understand why this is a troll, the off-line Warcraft series was Warcraft: Orcs & Humans, Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness and Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos. Unlike DDO, which tried to simulate the mechanics of paper and pencil D&D, I really don't think you can state that WoW took anything from a series of RTS games except the IP. The games Mr. Troll listed as "came before even Ultima came online" are the original WoW that came out in 2004, and expansions that came out in 2007 and 2008. And really, UO was the first MMORPG? Try Meridian 59. For the gameplay of WoW itself, it was influenced heavily by Everquest. So much so that Blizzard was even hiring leaders of major EQ guilds in an effort to lure EQ players to WoW. What WoW did was polish up the existing MMORPG features and present something that players liked without all the bad stuff in EQ that mad players rage-quit and unsubscribe. But since he got Malcanis, I give this troll 10/10.
Bah, saw this quote right after I wrote my post =( "Never rub another man's rhubarb." -Joker in Batman (Jack Nicholson) Just get a catalyst, blow him up and the post in local "Just a friendly reminder that I'm mining here and not you." -Abrazzar
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Murk Paradox
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Posted - 2013.07.01 15:00:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:Eve would be closer to older Everquest than WoW since factions have a =/- element to it based on your actions. WoW was made with the help of 2 EQ raid leaders. ;) There's some hat tips in WoW to the game as well (let alone the human starting world resembles EQ/EQII's starting areas). Who knows there might be some to EvE one day (and that's possible if Blizzard keeps returning to TBC themes -- they have space goats that crashed landed on Azeroth and their story is still not filled out).
Yea when I was in Blades of Wrath we molded our raiding based off of FOH's tactics. We even fought them a few times in BOTB over a few years. "Never rub another man's rhubarb." -Joker in Batman (Jack Nicholson) Just get a catalyst, blow him up and the post in local "Just a friendly reminder that I'm mining here and not you." -Abrazzar
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Gallowmere Rorschach
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:That was actually what put me on the path to quitting WoW. We had someone dupe our GM into letting a thief into the corp and giving them bank access by claiming to be an officer alt. It sucked, but part of me cheered for the guy for being smart enough to put one over on a gullible person. The GM filed a ticket, the stuff was returned within 12 hours, and the person who committed the theft got banned.
I genuinely dislike the idea of protecting idiots from themselves. You were ready to leave because you couldn't play by the rules. WoW has rules on scams and exploits. I'm ready to leave over mechanics that changed what I came to play in the first place from EQII. Cata's 4.0.1 took all that was fun out of healing out, and replaced it with a gating mechanic, now I spend more time trying to generate holy power to heal, than healing itself. It's borked and NOT fun. I tried up and down to convince Blizzard that specialization is important, no, they want everyone to be able to do everything. Like folks are generic faceless pointmen. All that effort and time made worthless. Just want 3.3.5 back (pristine servers), to tank heal, and to return to what was 24/7 25man raids... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX13vYvon6IAll I could do is wear my transmorg T10 hearthed in Dalaran and hope Blizzard comes to their senses. I'll gladly transfer my toon to a WotLK only realm and be happy, truly. Until then play other games. You can't tell me that the Beacon->holy light spam was more interesting than what replaced it. For the love of god, my 2 key was all but broken. It also made Ret more than a "smash all buttans, doesn't matter which activate because FCFS" and prot more than 969. Yeah, I played all three paladin specs, and actually wished they would introduce tri-spec, right after dual-spec came in. /spoiled
That said, I was gone before the patch came that started the Kung-Fu Panda/Neopets/Pokemon expansion. I didn't leave because of the rules, that was just the starting point. I left because, well, Kung-Fu Panda/Neopets/Pokemon, plus they kept dumbing down the gear/skill options. |
Murk Paradox
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:Guild Banks.
I've "awoxed" quite a few guilds in my day in WoW. You'd be suprised how many enchantment recipes and stacks of gems were considered important at one time.
(This is all pre 3.0 since WOTLK and forward has since made me quit the game). Can still do that, but the Guild Master can just send in a ticket to have the bank reset (thieving like that isn't tolerated). The worst isn't even that it's ninjaing a rare mount like the ashes or the blades from Tempest Keep (extremely low % drop). THAT would cause bad blood. Usually GMs don't get involved in player disputes -- which is also why in LFR and in 5.4 the new "mid" raids have goodie bags for loot (no more master looter tomfoolery). So if you want to be a criminal in WoW what's left is ninjaing and paying $10 for a name change. But if someone recognizes you again after stealing something like the ashes...remember Blizzard had a death threat notice stickied in their general forums...
I remember people selling a flour for 10gold and other nonsense. I never did that but remember it... those people fit our Eve world just fine =) "Never rub another man's rhubarb." -Joker in Batman (Jack Nicholson) Just get a catalyst, blow him up and the post in local "Just a friendly reminder that I'm mining here and not you." -Abrazzar
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Ramona McCandless
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