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Icanhazcheezburger
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Posted - 2013.06.27 05:15:00 -
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I have 3 accounts. One account has Mining Foreman level 5 trained. The other two accounts have better mining skills at the minute though. However, today I fleeted up and started mining like normal, and I noticed that the character with mining foreman, that previously was the worst miner, now was mining the highest yield. I checked the fleet settings, and even re-formed the fleet hoping to fix it, but it didn't take. The foreman account is now a better miner than the others, even with worse skills.
It was all fine when Odyssey first came out, but I haven't mined for a few days, so I'm assuming there was a change with update .10 or .11 that changed fleets/leadership/mining foreman/mining yields?
I should note, I also had a perfect everything (director/foreman/specialist/all leadership skills) maxed out, and his numbers didn't change anything.
What part of mining yield was nerfed? |
Rengerel en Distel
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Posted - 2013.06.27 13:37:00 -
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No mention of the skills of the other 2. No mention of the yield of all 3. No mention of ships or fittings.
Perhaps with a bit of data, people could help.
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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Huttan Funaila
Terminal Radioactivity Spaceship Samurai
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Posted - 2013.06.27 18:20:00 -
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Did you set the person with the mining foreman level 5 to be the booster? |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2013.06.27 18:50:00 -
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Huttan Funaila wrote:Did you set the person with the mining foreman level 5 to be the booster? I agree that it sounds like an improperly setup fleet.
Build fleets from the bottom-up:
* A fleet must have at least one squad member.
* A fleet must have one Squad Commander (SC).
* Wing Commanders (WC) are optional, and only required if you want to have multiple squads (or 2-3 boosters). If you have a WC, you must have at least one SC.
* Fleet Commander (FC) is optional, and only required if you want to have multiple wings (or 3 boosters). If you have a FC, you must have at least one WC.
The people in command positions (SC / WC / FC) MUST have the skills to command the people under them, in order for the fleet to be valid and bonuses to be applied (green checkmark). Boosters DO NOT need command skills unless they are in a command position.
Anyone can be assigned the role of a booster, but the default is the FC / WC / SC positions. Right-click current booster to Revoke Booster, and then right-click the person you want to assign as booster.
The fleet booster boosts himself and the entire fleet. The wing booster boosts himself and all squads in his wing. The squad booster boosts himself and all members in his squad. (Wing Commanders don't receive FC boosts for some reason)
If boosters give the same type of boost, only the highest one is applied. |
Number One Everything
Icanhazcheezburger
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Posted - 2013.06.28 00:24:00 -
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I did fail at providing data, sorry about that.
Three pilots, all in retrievers, T1 strip lasers.
Foreman was squad leader/boss/booster. Only T1 mining upgrades. Other two accounts were T2 mining upgrades, and squad members.
The squad members are the better miners. Pre-Odyssey, they mined approximately 1600/1700 yield with foreman buffs. The foreman mined about 1495.
Now, the yield are as follows: (Out of squad) Foreman: 1477 (Out of squad) Account 2: 1276 (Out of squad) Account 3: 1174
(In of squad) Foreman: 1625 (In of squad) Account 2: 1403 (In of squad) Account 3: 1291
So apparently I was mistaken about the leadership/foreman skill being the culprit. Overall though, the yields are lower than pre-Odyssey. I rechecked fittings, and that's not the issue.
Have any other miners noticed their yields lower? I mean, if not, I suppose I could have just lost my marbles somewhere, but I'd like others to check their yields as well first. |
Chris Winter
Zephyr Corp V.A.S.T.
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Posted - 2013.06.28 01:47:00 -
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Possible bug with Mining Barge skill not applying since you don't have the prerequisite Mining Frigate skill? What happens if you train Mining Frigate to 3?
I seem to recall people saying similar things with Command Ships... |
Number One Everything
Icanhazcheezburger
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Posted - 2013.06.28 02:18:00 -
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Chris Winter wrote:Possible bug with Mining Barge skill not applying since you don't have the prerequisite Mining Frigate skill? What happens if you train Mining Frigate to 3?
I seem to recall people saying similar things with Command Ships...
All chars have mining frigate 5. |
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
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Posted - 2013.06.29 11:01:00 -
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Looking at the numbers it seems to me that your T2 upgrades aren't having an effect (or at least some of them). Though I'm not certain which yield value you're using. As your Booster's ship seems to be working you may find it worthwhile to trade that among the three and check that the yield changes appropriately for their varying skills.
The first thing I would do though is to confirm that the upgrades are online on all of the ships - if they are then unfit them and refit them to force a reappraisal.
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ShenxAkali Regyri
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Posted - 2013.06.30 04:38:00 -
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Just tried it out few minutes ago, for the sake of the test i only used 1 miner + 1 mining foreman toon , i didn't notice any change since Pre-Odyssey, pre Odyssey i did about 5200m3 on a miner buffed by a mining foreman toon, right now im about at 5100 (5700 with drones) the reason is my miner is in a jump clone without mining yield implant
My mining foreman toon fly an orca so no yield on that one
my config: mining toon hulk fitted with t2 with the right crystal & t2 mining upgrade exhumer 5 drone interfacing 5 mining drone operation 5 mining barge 5 mining frigate 3 and pretty much any skills that affect yields at 5
mining foreman toon in an orca with t2 link industrial command ship 5 mining foreman 5 mining director 5 warfare link specialist 5 mining barge 5 mining frigate 3
don't know if it helps :'(
edit: forgot to test without the fleet booster, gathering info right now
edit 2 : 5264 with drone (mining foreman toon sitting in a station) about 4700 without drones |
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