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AndromacheDarkstar
Red Dawn Mercenaries
772
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Posted - 2013.06.27 08:12:00 -
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Ill add that if you find the PVP and PVE worthless and boring then this may not be the right game for you. The exits over there, i hope the door hits you on the way out Mercs For Hire. |
destiny2
Abh Academy Abh Alliance
146
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Posted - 2013.06.27 08:14:00 -
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players that buy plex for that nice shiney ship are the ones putting them on the market.
Scenario 1
Poster gets plexes to be removed.
Scenario 2
Poster Wants a titan the realizes **** grinding, with even 5 toons is still hard to grind isk for a titan then realizes oh i wish i could buy some plexes too.
Scenario 3.
Poster is eathier someone who is to stupid to actually realise what a contract actually says and got scammed.
I'm gonna go with all of the above. Obviously he read a contract wrong and got scammed |
Max Godsnottlingson
Bitter Veterans
141
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Posted - 2013.06.27 08:16:00 -
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Franco Stein wrote:been reading the forums and see you all trolling about what this game is.... mostly it's a sandbox.
This game is junk with its entrenched player base that pays nothing to play and makes the most noise. The PVP is worthless and the PVE is boring.
REMOVE PLEX and make people pay for this game out of pocket to have real players who contribute.
Well, if th egame is that bad, the door is over there. Don't let it hit you on the ass as it closes behind you
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Lexmana
1017
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Posted - 2013.06.27 08:16:00 -
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Franco Stein wrote:been reading the forums and see you all trolling about what this game is.... mostly it's a sandbox.
This game is junk with its entrenched player base that pays nothing to play and makes the most noise. The PVP is worthless and the PVE is boring.
REMOVE PLEX and make people pay for this game out of pocket to have real players who contribute.
PLEX was a brilliant idea by CCP. It means they can avoid crappy F2P mechanics that doesn't suit a game like EVE and keep the subscription model while fighting RMT at the same time. If you have a better idea than PLEX, please enlighten us. |
Six Six Six
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
131
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Posted - 2013.06.27 08:31:00 -
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Franco Stein wrote:been reading the forums and see you all trolling about what this game is.... mostly it's a sandbox.
This game is junk with its entrenched player base that pays nothing to play and makes the most noise. The PVP is worthless and the PVE is boring.
REMOVE PLEX and make people pay for this game out of pocket to have real players who contribute.
If you think this game is junk, why are you still here?
People do pay one way or another, if it be by currency or helping keep the numbers up in-game.
All active accounts are paid for, the only thing is that if you use isk to buy PLEX and use that PLEX to extend game time someone else has paid for your account via an in-game trade. This of course depends upon how you look at it, do you consider that the account has been paid for at the time someone buys the PLEX from CCP or do you consider the account is paid for at time of use of the PLEX where you could then argue that you've paid for that account yourself using isk.
But either way all active accounts are paid for. |
Intar Medris
Four Pillar Production Headshot Gaming
83
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Posted - 2013.06.27 09:17:00 -
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Franco Stein wrote:been reading the forums and see you all trolling about what this game is.... mostly it's a sandbox.
This game is junk with its entrenched player base that pays nothing to play and makes the most noise. The PVP is worthless and the PVE is boring.
REMOVE PLEX and make people pay for this game out of pocket to have real players who contribute.
Suck my **** newb. I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen. |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
284
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Posted - 2013.06.27 09:19:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Chribba wrote:Remove PLEX and everyone would be so much sadder Not me. I never believed in this F2P scam, as there is no free lunches. So this means that you don't somewhere down there enjoy reading about someone who didn't think it through and moved 36 PLEXes in a frigate on a busy Jita day?
No, as I don't approve of thieving. Never did. Never will.
I play noble knights in shining armor, not rogues who like doing it from behind like cowards.
And yes, that's in EvE, too. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
8729
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Posted - 2013.06.27 09:35:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Chribba wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Chribba wrote:Remove PLEX and everyone would be so much sadder Not me. I never believed in this F2P scam, as there is no free lunches. So this means that you don't somewhere down there enjoy reading about someone who didn't think it through and moved 36 PLEXes in a frigate on a busy Jita day? No, as I don't approve of thieving. Never did. Never will. I play noble knights in shining armor, not rogues who like doing it from behind like cowards. And yes, that's in EvE, too. Who said anything about stealing? I was merely pointing to maybe not thought through decisions be it moving PLEX in a Frig or announcing doing so first hand. Had nothing to do with knighting. But good for you then.
I change my statement to everyone minus some pilots.
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ACE McFACE
Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve
1370
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Posted - 2013.06.27 09:56:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:I will never understand people who think like this. I pay my Eve sub with real money. Why? Time efficiency. Even if I enjoyed Eve's PVE (which I do not), it would make more sense to just pay my sub with cash rather than PLEX. Show me anywhere in the game that I can make 500-600m ISK/hr (assuming a $17 per hour irl pay rate) without either a massive investment, or serious risk involved. Just because I pay my sub with cash, doesn't mean that I contribute anything more than a person who PLEXes their account. In fact, I probably contribute less, because they are having to perform in game actions to keep their subs rolling, whereas I am not. So, having established that is is better to work and pay sub than grind for sub time: do you also grind isk for your ships? Thats different. For example, I'm willing to pay real money for the privilege to play Internet Spaceships Swimming in Mollases Simulator 2013(tm). But I am not willing to pay real money for the spaceships themselves, it kind of takes away from half the experience of EVE. Even if that half is a bit dull. You should be notified if someone quotes your post so you can continue the argument! |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
284
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Posted - 2013.06.27 09:56:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Who said anything about stealing? I was merely pointing to maybe not thought through decisions be it moving PLEX in a Frig or announcing doing so first hand. Had nothing to do with knighting. But good for you then.
I change my statement to everyone minus some pilots.
It's implied as who would rub their hands together and yell, "NICE!!!" at that idea?
If you're moral enough you'll consider it not something to steal and give it back even.
But thanks for putting a conditional in there, as people in even EvE can be moral/ethical (no game changes that compass to me...I'm the straightest shooter you'll ever see). "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
460
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Posted - 2013.06.27 10:04:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:
But thanks for putting a conditional in there, as people in even EvE can be moral/ethical (no game changes that compass to me...I'm the straightest shooter you'll ever see).
I am inclined to disbelieve this
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Solaris Ecladia
High Flyers Ex Cinere Scriptor
83
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Posted - 2013.06.27 11:38:00 -
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If i had to pay money for this game i wouldnt play. Too IRL poor. But have no fear, I will keep plexxing my account like I have been doing the past 2 years. |
Bloody Wench
598
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Posted - 2013.06.27 12:02:00 -
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Dear OP,
If Chribba is in opposition to your idea, then you're wrong.
That is all.
Support a High Resolution Texture Pack |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
284
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Posted - 2013.06.27 12:11:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:
But thanks for putting a conditional in there, as people in even EvE can be moral/ethical (no game changes that compass to me...I'm the straightest shooter you'll ever see).
I am inclined to disbelieve this
Disbelieve all you want dear. If anything no one had doubted about me is, I'm honest to a fault...and will say exactly what I mean unvarnished. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
464
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Posted - 2013.06.27 12:18:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:
But thanks for putting a conditional in there, as people in even EvE can be moral/ethical (no game changes that compass to me...I'm the straightest shooter you'll ever see).
I am inclined to disbelieve this Disbelieve all you want dear. If anything no one had doubted about me is, I'm honest to a fault...and will say exactly what I mean unvarnished.
You must be fascinating to listen to at parties
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Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
316
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Posted - 2013.06.27 12:46:00 -
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Franco Stein wrote: REMOVE PLEX and make people pay for this game out of pocket to have real players who contribute....
...and more people to RMT isk from you for a higher price? |
Bischopt
Arbitrary Repossession
111
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Posted - 2013.06.27 12:48:00 -
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Franco Stein wrote:been reading the forums and see you all trolling about what this game is.... mostly it's a sandbox.
This game is junk with its entrenched player base that pays nothing to play and makes the most noise. The PVP is worthless and the PVE is boring.
REMOVE PLEX and make people pay for this game out of pocket to have real players who contribute.
Surely someone has already said this but I'm too lazy to read through the whole thread:
PLEX is not free-to-play. When you buy a plex with isk and use it, it just means somebody else has paid for your subscription. It's really that simple. |
Q 5
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
76
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Posted - 2013.06.27 12:49:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Chribba wrote:Remove PLEX and everyone would be so much sadder Not me. I never believed in this F2P scam, as there is no free lunches. So this means that you don't somewhere down there enjoy reading about someone who didn't think it through and moved 36 PLEXes in a frigate on a busy Jita day?
Come on Chribba you want me to believe that someone is dum b enough to move plex in a squishy ship and there are players that just sit for hours scanning departing ships out of 4/4...humph I don't believe you |
Nyancat Audeles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
345
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Posted - 2013.06.27 13:51:00 -
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10/10, OP, your troll even got Chribba to reply to your nonsense |
De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
1649
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Posted - 2013.06.27 13:58:00 -
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Bloody Wench wrote:Dear OP,
If Chribba is in opposition to your idea, then you're wrong.
That is all.
The Chribba has spoken and delivered his judgement in Veldspar. The OP has been found wanting by the Lord of the Veldspar and shall now be cursed for all of his days.
Ban Thread, Close OP. Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. |
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De'Veldrin
East India Ore Trade The East India Co.
1649
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Posted - 2013.06.27 13:59:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:
But thanks for putting a conditional in there, as people in even EvE can be moral/ethical (no game changes that compass to me...I'm the straightest shooter you'll ever see).
I am inclined to disbelieve this Disbelieve all you want dear. If anything no one had doubted about me is, I'm honest to a fault...and will say exactly what I mean unvarnished. You must be fascinating to listen to at parties
Like Yanni. Absolutely fascinating. Eve Online: The full-contact sport for your brain. |
Stonecrusher Mortlock
University of Caille Gallente Federation
160
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Posted - 2013.06.27 14:05:00 -
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not sure if troll or just stupid. |
Franco Stein
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.06.27 14:18:00 -
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Trolls are just defending a F2P and a P2W scam.
PLEX is such the Pay to Win model it's sick.
Here's your game options for Players.
1) I don't want to earn my merits in the in game grind, so I throw down RL cash to buy my shinny..... how is this not P2W? I am a fake player who is not a gamer, just a "want to be" hero in a game that is "forced" to offer this option due to the fact that the option 2 players even exist.... This is FAKE GAMING.
2) I don't have RL cash (or just don't want to pay for stuff, cause I am a suck), so I grind or scam the above guy to make fake cash to play this game for Free and just take up server space. I make ten times more noise in the forums and in game, then people who pay the $140. buck a year to sub (Option 3 player). I troll any thread who speaks the truth!
3) I love the game and want to see new exciting content come out. I realize that there is NO OTHER Space game MMO and so I invest in this one by paying each and every month that I play it. I know it's a game and find value in my own personal efforts in game to advance my character, otherwise I know I'm just fooling myself into thinking I am great. I hate when a player can just pay real money to buy the SAME exact thing that I had to earn in game (Characters, Ships, etc). I game because I feel that I HAVE PERSONALLY achieved something. I support the company who makes the game I play "personally" with MY OWN MONEY (not some rookies) because I want to keep enjoying it and they deserve my support.
If you all are too stupid to see that this game model is a scam and actually killing the fun in it, you are so dead wrong. WTF is a game anyway? You leaches force the publishers to do it, and that's wrong. Sure they may be making money due to the VEGAS like odds in here, but it puts the game in a trash category.
1) How is PVP fun in this game for regular sub players? It's ridiculous! It costs you either countless hours of grinding or RL cash to even play against another F2P or P2W player and compete. Not only that, the odds of winning are so stacked to the side of the those two player type entrenched player base that force new players to bail or join the ridiculous. PVP means Player VS Player, if you don't know the term! This game has NO SUCH gaming option. It's player against entrenched players!!!
2) PVE has old content that is the same exact missions over and over. Other games have as many as thousands of missions to play. Why does this game have no real new content? Because they don't have to! The P2W and F2P player base sees to that! They create a PERFECT little game scam.
Get you head out and fix this...... you can do it by NOT BUYING PLEX!!!!!! |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
473
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Posted - 2013.06.27 14:22:00 -
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Franco Stein wrote:Trolls are just defending a F2P and a P2W scam.
PLEX is such the Pay to Win model it's sick.
You seem to be one of these people who call those who disagree with you "trolls" when they defend their point of view
You also seem to measure your EvE success in terms of Isk
What a curiously primitive viewpoint
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Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
6740
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Posted - 2013.06.27 14:22:00 -
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has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like
sorry, this thread is just full of potato. You may gain the knowledge, but you will lose your belief, with all its mystery and comfort. If there was proof, absolute and certain, there is an afterlife, why not quit this life, and be done with it? Ponder about these things all your life, and you're a philosopher. Compress these ponderings into a couple of pages, and you'll go mad. |
Elliavir
Kid's Logistics Inc League of Infamy
38
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Posted - 2013.06.27 14:23:00 -
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Lexmana wrote:Franco Stein wrote:been reading the forums and see you all trolling about what this game is.... mostly it's a sandbox.
This game is junk with its entrenched player base that pays nothing to play and makes the most noise. The PVP is worthless and the PVE is boring.
REMOVE PLEX and make people pay for this game out of pocket to have real players who contribute.
PLEX was a brilliant idea by CCP. It means they can avoid crappy F2P mechanics that doesn't suit a game like EVE and keep the subscription model while fighting RMT at the same time. If you have a better idea than PLEX, please enlighten us.
I second the "PLEX was a brilliant idea" comment. And I subscribe.
It adds so much flexibility to the game - that's a whole different thread though (101 Uses for PLEX!). One of the most underappreciated things about it is, I think, that it provides a steady currency sink in addition to the game mechanics of ship loss and consumables and such. Every PLEX sold for ISK is that many ISK gone forever once that PLEX is used. It's another balance against the endless in-game ISK-printing machines. Keeping the currency inflow and outflow somewhat on par with each other keeps this economy from spinning into WoW levels of hyperinflation. Which has the added benefit of CCP not having to add in new currencies every patch. |
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
654
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Posted - 2013.06.27 14:24:00 -
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Franco Stein wrote:been reading the forums and see you all trolling about what this game is.... mostly it's a sandbox.
This game is junk with its entrenched player base that pays nothing to play and makes the most noise. The PVP is worthless and the PVE is boring.
REMOVE PLEX and make people pay for this game out of pocket to have real players who contribute.
If the game is "junk" then Bog Off to a different game. WTF does a 29 day old noob know about the game anyway and what experience do you have to be making such game changing suggestions???
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |
Franco Stein
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2013.06.27 14:32:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Remove PLEX and everyone would be so much sadder, not only those that will stop playing, but also you won't have all the lolmails of some pilot moving 36 PLEXes in a Kestrel... why you want us to be sad?
I've read about your gaming in here and admire your efforts from what I have read.
Why you would support PLEX I can not understand, as it is completely counter to the values of gaming in every sense.
Those who defend it, just want things for free or don't want to really risk!
Take away the plex and you'll be left only with REAL GAMERS! |
Mathrin
Synthetic Solution Synthetic Systems
91
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Posted - 2013.06.27 14:46:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Remove PLEX and everyone would be so much sadder, not only those that will stop playing, but also you won't have all the lolmails of some pilot moving 36 PLEXes in a Kestrel... why you want us to be sad?
Chribba endorses plex. /thread |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
2300
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Posted - 2013.06.27 14:49:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:The way things are now, if PLEX didn't exist, I doubt EvE would have more than 200k subs. A lot of that 500k are extra accounts (as it took more than 1 account to raise another toon until this expansion). Only way to pay for that with kids is to PLEX for "free" game time.
I sub, as it's a better way to budget (set price a month). Ironically, it's due to that set price that allows having more than 1 account. F2P model and all the nickel and diming is how it stays afloat, but devs can't budget like that. Which is also why I believe Blizzard continues on the subscription model for WoW, as it's a consistent cashflow to budget with each month.
Micro pay model is what kids enjoy, but in reality there's no free lunch. Any F2P scheme out there is paid for by other means (CCP does the "free" expansions and all by PLEX and time-code sales). They're just deferring the cost onto others paying for it (leeches).
You can't go 5 sentences without saying Blizzard or WoW can you?
Why are you here again?
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