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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. The Lostboys
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Posted - 2011.10.24 15:55:00 -
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About 3 weeks ago, before the layoffs and so on, we got this Dev comment:
CCP Solomon wrote:Just incase there was any uncertainty, yes, we are refocussing on spaceships, but don't put your spacelegs away just yet, they will be needed
Now with all the recent changes, should we still keep our spacelegs at the ready?
At the ready for winter? CCP employees should never proclaim a feature to be awesome. Only subscribers should. Subscribers can never answer a question posed to CCP. Only CCP can. |
Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
12
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Posted - 2011.10.24 15:57:00 -
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Without space-legs, how can you kick space-ass? Your stuff goes here. |
Abrazzar
235
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Posted - 2011.10.24 15:59:00 -
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I parked my space legs at the door and told them to give me a call when it opens. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
Satav
Latinum Exports
70
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Posted - 2011.10.24 16:02:00 -
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I believe that there will be minor additions to WiS. However, as CCP has clearly stated in the last several dev blogs, they will be focusing on FiS, game mechanics/bugs, ship balancing and FiS content in general.
Hope you're not disappointed. Cause i'm not.
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CCP Navigator
C C P C C P Alliance
306
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Posted - 2011.10.24 16:04:00 -
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The focus for EVE will be on flying in space but we are still rolling out the other three Captain's Quarters with the Winter 2011 release. CCP Navigator - Lead Community Representative |
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Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
141
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Posted - 2011.10.24 16:04:00 -
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Say good bye to your Second Life Redux, pubbies! |
Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
227
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Posted - 2011.10.24 16:27:00 -
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Once the players stop complaining about things in the game, and start to only complain about each other then CCP will resume working on Incarna, without telling anyone.
They have made some progress in that path already... they gave us a lot of very good news and already a lot of people are complaining about goons and such because they have nothing better to complain about. Sometimes the only difference between a budding genius and a blooming idiot is where they chose to take a stand. |
Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
325
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Posted - 2011.10.24 16:33:00 -
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If CCP continues to push Incarna out in the future, they need to find ways to provide more of the original 2008 Incarna content and less of the "shameless microtransaction money-grab" to quote Brendan from Massively. This current situation is not just a "bump because some bad players refuse to see the awesomeness of CCP's vision.". The vision was good back at 2008. Dunno what happened to it after that.
People still want Incarna, but not with cost of FiS and not without actual content. It also has to flow with the lore to succeed. Take a moment to refresh your memories with Torfi's presentation from 2008 and you may realize what went wrong with perfectly good plan..
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Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
32
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Posted - 2011.10.24 16:37:00 -
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Grey Stormshadow wrote:If CCP continues to push Incarna out in the future, they need to find ways to provide more of the original 2008 Incarna content and less of the " shameless microtransaction money-grab" to quote Brendan from Massively. This current situation is not just a "bump because some bad players refuse to see the awesomeness of CCP's vision.". The vision was good back at 2008. Dunno what happened to it after that. People still want Incarna, but not with cost of FiS and not without actual content. It also has to flow with the lore to succeed. Take a moment to refresh your memories with Torfi's presentation from 2008 and you may realize what went wrong with perfectly good plan..
Good point and well made. |
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CCP Guard
C C P C C P Alliance
453
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Posted - 2011.10.24 16:50:00 -
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We-¦ve built a lot of solid character tech that can be used for all kinds of great game play in the future. Right now our focus will be on classic EVE game play, as we've committed to, so all that is on ice while we figure out what we want to do with it. And more importantly...what you guys want us to do with it. CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer |
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Barakkus
947
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Posted - 2011.10.24 16:52:00 -
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I'm kind of wondering how the design went from that to what we got. :( |
Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
145
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Posted - 2011.10.24 16:52:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:We-¦ve built a lot of solid character tech that can be used for all kinds of great game play in the future. Right now our focus will be on classic EVE game play, as we've committed to, so all that is on ice while we figure out what we want to do with it. And more importantly...what you guys want us to do with it. Here's what I suggest. You take that dagger that you used to kill WoD and drive it into the heart of WiS. That's a great suggestion.
Now here's an excellent idea for you to spend AUR on. Buying ship skins that are permanent for your ship of preference on an individual basis and only the end-user sees it, not other players as to keep game loading to a minimum.
Player A sees his ship w/ the skins that he picked. Player B sees A's ship with just the normal look. |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
103
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Posted - 2011.10.24 16:53:00 -
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CCP Navigator wrote:The focus for EVE will be on flying in space but we are still rolling out the other three Captain's Quarters with the Winter 2011 release.
hmmm... content that most people will never see.
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ChromeStriker
The Shadow's clutch
13
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Posted - 2011.10.24 16:58:00 -
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Karadion wrote:CCP Guard wrote:We-¦ve built a lot of solid character tech that can be used for all kinds of great game play in the future. Right now our focus will be on classic EVE game play, as we've committed to, so all that is on ice while we figure out what we want to do with it. And more importantly...what you guys want us to do with it. Here's what I suggest. You take that dagger that you used to kill WoD and drive it into the heart of WiS. That's a great suggestion. Now here's an excellent idea for you to spend AUR on. Buying ship skins that are permanent for your ship of preference on an individual basis and only the end-user sees it, not other players as to keep game loading to a minimum. Player A sees his ship w/ the skins that he picked. Player B sees A's ship with just the normal look.
Spaceship barbie? - Nulla Curas |
Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
145
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Posted - 2011.10.24 16:59:00 -
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ChromeStriker wrote:Karadion wrote:CCP Guard wrote:We-¦ve built a lot of solid character tech that can be used for all kinds of great game play in the future. Right now our focus will be on classic EVE game play, as we've committed to, so all that is on ice while we figure out what we want to do with it. And more importantly...what you guys want us to do with it. Here's what I suggest. You take that dagger that you used to kill WoD and drive it into the heart of WiS. That's a great suggestion. Now here's an excellent idea for you to spend AUR on. Buying ship skins that are permanent for your ship of preference on an individual basis and only the end-user sees it, not other players as to keep game loading to a minimum. Player A sees his ship w/ the skins that he picked. Player B sees A's ship with just the normal look. Spaceship barbie? At least it's FiS instead of WiS. |
Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
325
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Posted - 2011.10.24 17:04:00 -
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Barakkus wrote:I'm kind of wondering how the design went from that to what we got. :( This is the line what explains why "new" Incarna failed and was not accepted.
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ChromeStriker
The Shadow's clutch
13
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Posted - 2011.10.24 17:05:00 -
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Karadion wrote:ChromeStriker wrote:Karadion wrote:CCP Guard wrote:We-¦ve built a lot of solid character tech that can be used for all kinds of great game play in the future. Right now our focus will be on classic EVE game play, as we've committed to, so all that is on ice while we figure out what we want to do with it. And more importantly...what you guys want us to do with it. Here's what I suggest. You take that dagger that you used to kill WoD and drive it into the heart of WiS. That's a great suggestion. Now here's an excellent idea for you to spend AUR on. Buying ship skins that are permanent for your ship of preference on an individual basis and only the end-user sees it, not other players as to keep game loading to a minimum. Player A sees his ship w/ the skins that he picked. Player B sees A's ship with just the normal look. Spaceship barbie? At least it's FiS instead of WiS.
Spaceship Ken? - Nulla Curas |
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance Dark Empire Alliance
6
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Posted - 2011.10.24 17:06:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:We-¦ve built a lot of solid character tech that can be used for all kinds of great game play in the future. Right now our focus will be on classic EVE game play, as we've committed to, so all that is on ice while we figure out what we want to do with it. And more importantly...what you guys want us to do with it.
I know what I would like to see (when your ready):
If i choose to leave my ship: animation of the process, from ship to POD to CQ (can be skipped by hitting "ESC" or turned off in settings, for those who don't want to see it), as shown in previous years of teaser videos.
From there, in the least minimum, player BAR and CASINO's for making a purpose of WiS and NEX vanity items so players can actually interact. And for giggles, at least the ability to punch and kick (and knockout) for those that are at war and run into each other at the bar/casino....merely for LULZ might have to put a aggression timer to prevent exploitation and gang fights =)
if running from location to location takes too long, maybe a shuttle like we see in the hangar can transport the toon? or a lightrail/train?
soo many possibilities, just going to have to be Ninja Devs about it, while focusing most of your efforts in FIS classic EVE, make WIS 10/% of your efforts?
people still want it, as someone above me said
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Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
145
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Posted - 2011.10.24 17:06:00 -
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ChromeStriker wrote:Karadion wrote:ChromeStriker wrote:Karadion wrote:CCP Guard wrote:We-¦ve built a lot of solid character tech that can be used for all kinds of great game play in the future. Right now our focus will be on classic EVE game play, as we've committed to, so all that is on ice while we figure out what we want to do with it. And more importantly...what you guys want us to do with it. Here's what I suggest. You take that dagger that you used to kill WoD and drive it into the heart of WiS. That's a great suggestion. Now here's an excellent idea for you to spend AUR on. Buying ship skins that are permanent for your ship of preference on an individual basis and only the end-user sees it, not other players as to keep game loading to a minimum. Player A sees his ship w/ the skins that he picked. Player B sees A's ship with just the normal look. Spaceship barbie? At least it's FiS instead of WiS. Spaceship Ken? What are you supposed to be? Spaceship Malibu Barbie? |
Barakkus
947
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Posted - 2011.10.24 17:07:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:We-¦ve built a lot of solid character tech that can be used for all kinds of great game play in the future. Right now our focus will be on classic EVE game play, as we've committed to, so all that is on ice while we figure out what we want to do with it. And more importantly...what you guys want us to do with it.
I think Incarna would have gone over better if it were more like the video linked above, and released with at least what was shown in the video instead of the 1 room CQ that doesn't look anything like the video CQ. I think it would have been pretty kewl for the pod thing and maybe an animation showing you getting out of it etc. That, and rinky dink cheap NeX items instead of how it was launched, add the expensive stuff later once people get used to the idea of buying NeX items via $$ > Plex conversions. Being able to sell NeX items on the market though was a good move, a lot of games make the items you get from MT stores bound to your character. Definitely need to keep that in mind moving forward, that way people who don't want to spend $$ can at least spend isk to get the same items. |
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Letrange
Red Horizon Inc
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Posted - 2011.10.24 17:07:00 -
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Karadion wrote:CCP Guard wrote:We-¦ve built a lot of solid character tech that can be used for all kinds of great game play in the future. Right now our focus will be on classic EVE game play, as we've committed to, so all that is on ice while we figure out what we want to do with it. And more importantly...what you guys want us to do with it. Here's what I suggest. You take that dagger that you used to kill WoD and drive it into the heart of WiS. That's a great suggestion. Now here's an excellent idea for you to spend AUR on. Buying ship skins that are permanent for your ship of preference on an individual basis and only the end-user sees it, not other players as to keep game loading to a minimum. Player A sees his ship w/ the skins that he picked. Player B sees A's ship with just the normal look. Fail |
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance Dark Empire Alliance
6
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Posted - 2011.10.24 17:11:00 -
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i think i read an idea somewhere: Blueprint originals for NEX items on the NEX Store, use PI as the platform for manufacturing clothes? maybe the BP or Manufacturing Schematic once purchased adds the item as selectable in the Advanced Processing Unit on planets?
or you could go the POS route to making clothes |
oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
0
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Posted - 2011.10.24 18:12:00 -
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After all this time not even 1 room behind that door CCP created and don,t know how to open themselves.
At least a corproom should be present after all this time
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Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
149
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Posted - 2011.10.24 18:14:00 -
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Letrange wrote:Karadion wrote:CCP Guard wrote:We-¦ve built a lot of solid character tech that can be used for all kinds of great game play in the future. Right now our focus will be on classic EVE game play, as we've committed to, so all that is on ice while we figure out what we want to do with it. And more importantly...what you guys want us to do with it. Here's what I suggest. You take that dagger that you used to kill WoD and drive it into the heart of WiS. That's a great suggestion. Now here's an excellent idea for you to spend AUR on. Buying ship skins that are permanent for your ship of preference on an individual basis and only the end-user sees it, not other players as to keep game loading to a minimum. Player A sees his ship w/ the skins that he picked. Player B sees A's ship with just the normal look. Fail It's just a graphical look. Fine call it fail. It's just a suggestion for CCP to make some money off something that doesn't affect the game's population. Afterall what is WiS used for anyways other than to play barbies? |
mkint
182
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Posted - 2011.10.24 18:42:00 -
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Barakkus wrote:CCP Guard wrote:We-¦ve built a lot of solid character tech that can be used for all kinds of great game play in the future. Right now our focus will be on classic EVE game play, as we've committed to, so all that is on ice while we figure out what we want to do with it. And more importantly...what you guys want us to do with it. I think Incarna would have gone over better if it were more like the video linked above, and released with at least what was shown in the video instead of the 1 room CQ that doesn't look anything like the video CQ. I think it would have been pretty kewl for the pod thing and maybe an animation showing you getting out of it etc. That, and rinky dink cheap NeX items instead of how it was launched, add the expensive stuff later once people get used to the idea of buying NeX items via $$ > Plex conversions. Being able to sell NeX items on the market though was a good move, a lot of games make the items you get from MT stores bound to your character. Definitely need to keep that in mind moving forward, that way people who don't want to spend $$ can at least spend isk to get the same items. So I'm sitting here reading, thinking of how i want to respond, and I realize this topic is getting really boring after all this time and almost skipped this thread altogether...
However, as a message to CCP, just because the topic has gotten boring, doesn't mean your players have stopped resenting the bait and switch CQ's, the being treated as sub-human cows to harvest for our money milk, that you blame us for your game getting less and less worth playing with each expansion. Those feelings of resentment aren't going to go away on their own, no matter how bored we get with talking about it. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
88
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Posted - 2011.10.24 18:58:00 -
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Barakkus wrote:CCP Guard wrote:We-¦ve built a lot of solid character tech that can be used for all kinds of great game play in the future. Right now our focus will be on classic EVE game play, as we've committed to, so all that is on ice while we figure out what we want to do with it. And more importantly...what you guys want us to do with it. I think Incarna would have gone over better if it were more like the video linked above, and released with at least what was shown in the video instead of the 1 room CQ that doesn't look anything like the video CQ. I think it would have been pretty kewl for the pod thing and maybe an animation showing you getting out of it etc. That, and rinky dink cheap NeX items instead of how it was launched, add the expensive stuff later once people get used to the idea of buying NeX items via $$ > Plex conversions. Being able to sell NeX items on the market though was a good move, a lot of games make the items you get from MT stores bound to your character. Definitely need to keep that in mind moving forward, that way people who don't want to spend $$ can at least spend isk to get the same items.
Agreed, but I will point out that the secondary market was not the only way to buy NeX items for ISK.
In fact, most people that bought NeX items simply bought their PLEX with ISK to begin with, thereby avoiding the markup in the after market.
To kill the enemy and break their toys!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
51
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Posted - 2011.10.24 19:12:00 -
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Grey Stormshadow wrote:People still want Incarna, but not with cost of FiS and not without actual content. It also has to flow with the lore to succeed. Take a moment to refresh your memories with Torfi's presentation from 2008 and you may realize what went wrong with perfectly good plan.. It is bloody depressing watching that considering what we ended up receiving 3 years later... Anastasia -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á Dominique-á-á Mashie -á-á Monica |
pussnheels
Vintage heavy industries
135
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Posted - 2011.10.24 19:17:00 -
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most of us tend to agree that the whole WIS concept is good , but it was badly implemented, technical issues and too litle of actual game use
I look forward to the day we can actually leave our CQ so i can kick the first goon i meet in the -¿-¿-¿-¿-¿-¿-¿-¿-¿-¿-¿-¿-¿-¿-¿-¿-¿-¿-¿-¿-¿-¿ I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |
Barakkus
949
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Posted - 2011.10.24 19:18:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Barakkus wrote:CCP Guard wrote:We-¦ve built a lot of solid character tech that can be used for all kinds of great game play in the future. Right now our focus will be on classic EVE game play, as we've committed to, so all that is on ice while we figure out what we want to do with it. And more importantly...what you guys want us to do with it. I think Incarna would have gone over better if it were more like the video linked above, and released with at least what was shown in the video instead of the 1 room CQ that doesn't look anything like the video CQ. I think it would have been pretty kewl for the pod thing and maybe an animation showing you getting out of it etc. That, and rinky dink cheap NeX items instead of how it was launched, add the expensive stuff later once people get used to the idea of buying NeX items via $$ > Plex conversions. Being able to sell NeX items on the market though was a good move, a lot of games make the items you get from MT stores bound to your character. Definitely need to keep that in mind moving forward, that way people who don't want to spend $$ can at least spend isk to get the same items. Agreed, but I will point out that the secondary market was not the only way to buy NeX items for ISK. In fact, most people that bought NeX items simply bought their PLEX with ISK to begin with, thereby avoiding the markup in the after market.
That is a good point as well, I forgot about doing that lol. I usually plex my alt to avoid sub fees, so I didn't even think about just buying a plex to convert to NeX with isk. That may explain why plex has gone up almost 100 mil in the last month lol.
Someone still spent the $$ to get the plex on the market to begin with, but for those who find spending $$ so distasteful, using one's own isk to buy the plex then buy the items is also a very viable means. |
Jashmyne
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2011.10.24 19:21:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:We-¦ve built a lot of solid character tech that can be used for all kinds of great game play in the future. Right now our focus will be on classic EVE game play, as we've committed to, so all that is on ice while we figure out what we want to do with it. And more importantly...what you guys want us to do with it. Here's a thought, release what was intended to be released like the establishments that were apperently pretty much done. That's what was promised and that's what people are waiting for. A bar with minigames and the ability to hang out and chat with other pilots with our avatars. That's what Incarna was all about and would make a good start to expand the WiS part with more features and more gameplay elements. And what is best is that we the community will be able to offer better-¿suggestions for improvements. Right now all we got is a cage and the only suggestion is let us meet other people. How does that help you CCP ?
Hilmar stated that CCP has learned their lesson but ignore the part where people complained about only half of a expansion that were never finished. And you are making the same mistake again. I do not mind if CCP works on the FiS part, not at all but wouldn't it be better if you finished Incarna(which I repeat apperently was pretty much done) and then focus entirely on FiS ? Atleast that shadow over the game will be gone.
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