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Arkenai Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
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Posted - 2013.07.03 17:54:00 -
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P3ps1 Max wrote:Doc Fury wrote:P3ps1 Max wrote:Expansions should cost $ They already do, it costs $15/mo. Yea, when majority of the player base is playing for free.
You don't understand PLEX. Sig'd.-áGallente FW best FW. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
569
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Posted - 2013.07.03 17:57:00 -
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Arkenai Wyrnspire wrote:P3ps1 Max wrote:Doc Fury wrote:P3ps1 Max wrote:Expansions should cost $ They already do, it costs $15/mo. Yea, when majority of the player base is playing for free. You don't understand PLEX.
Not your fault, but you are getting sloppy seconds with that line of argument " Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance
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Obunagawe
157
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Posted - 2013.07.03 17:58:00 -
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I'll only buy up to Dominion expansion on my SC chars and enjoy SC as they were meant to be.
Pre-nerf titans sounds good too. I'll buy those accounts up to Dominion as well.
And to make money I'll leave a bunch of button-orbiting alts in Inferno.
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P3ps1 Max
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.07.03 18:09:00 -
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Obunagawe wrote:I'll only buy up to Dominion expansion on my SC chars and enjoy SC as they were meant to be.
Pre-nerf titans sounds good too. I'll buy those accounts up to Dominion as well.
And to make money I'll leave a bunch of button-orbiting alts in Inferno.
Shoot, I'd stop at the first one.
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
476
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Posted - 2013.07.03 18:15:00 -
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P3ps1 Max wrote:Obunagawe wrote:I'll only buy up to Dominion expansion on my SC chars and enjoy SC as they were meant to be.
Pre-nerf titans sounds good too. I'll buy those accounts up to Dominion as well.
And to make money I'll leave a bunch of button-orbiting alts in Inferno.
Shoot, I'd stop at the first one.
Confirming OP is a cheap-ass who wouldn't pay for all expansions. Rifterlings Corporation is now recruiting pilots for faction warfare solo & small gang frigate PvP. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |
P3ps1 Max
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.07.03 18:19:00 -
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Arkenai Wyrnspire wrote:P3ps1 Max wrote:Doc Fury wrote:P3ps1 Max wrote:Expansions should cost $ They already do, it costs $15/mo. Yea, when majority of the player base is playing for free. You don't understand PLEX.
ahhh yes, I must have forgotten they are injected into the game only by players. I would hate for these to run out. What then?
FEED ME
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P3ps1 Max
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.07.03 18:21:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:P3ps1 Max wrote:Obunagawe wrote:I'll only buy up to Dominion expansion on my SC chars and enjoy SC as they were meant to be.
Pre-nerf titans sounds good too. I'll buy those accounts up to Dominion as well.
And to make money I'll leave a bunch of button-orbiting alts in Inferno.
Shoot, I'd stop at the first one. Confirming OP is a cheap-ass who wouldn't pay for all expansions.
Because that is the concept behind paid expansions. lol
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
476
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Posted - 2013.07.03 18:25:00 -
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P3ps1 Max wrote:Because that is the concept behind paid expansions. lol
P3ps1 Max wrote:To me Eve is setup for success using this business model.
Seems to me that the idea of selling expansions as a business model would be to make money. You don't make money under such a business model by not selling as many as possible.
Have you confused even yourself with your nonsensical line of crap? Rifterlings Corporation is now recruiting pilots for faction warfare solo & small gang frigate PvP. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |
Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
303
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Posted - 2013.07.03 18:27:00 -
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P3ps1 Max wrote:Arkenai Wyrnspire wrote:P3ps1 Max wrote:Doc Fury wrote:P3ps1 Max wrote:Expansions should cost $ They already do, it costs $15/mo. Yea, when majority of the player base is playing for free. You don't understand PLEX. ahhh yes, I must have forgotten they are injected into the game only by players. I would hate for these to run out. What then? FEED ME
I have spare food today.
Yes, you have forgotten that.
But, mostly you have forgotten that for a lot of people $15 for 550m is not a bad trade, or even 5.5bn for $150 (Even better deals when they have the plex sales "Buy 30 plex for X"
Here is what happens if people stop injecting plex into the game:
Price of plex rises, due to lack of supply. As it increases, more people go "WTF, I can get 800m for $15...." CCP release some of the plex from banned accounts (Again, paid for by someone at some point) Prices go down faster than Sov after an accidental misclick
People go "WTF, only 400m for $15, screw that"
Prices go back up. |
Shaera Taam
Minmatar Death Squad Broken Chains Alliance
75
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Posted - 2013.07.03 18:27:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:Since this thread is obviously about nothing important, I propose we alter it to include human sacrifice and lesbian pod goo catfights.
Heh, lesbians I know would help each other climb out of said pod-goo, kick you in the balls, roll you for your wallet, and stroll out of the room hand-in-hand singing Kumbayah. But who am I to judge your fantasy?
Now, human sacrifice? Low sec. See it every day.
Thus Spake the Frigate Goddess! |
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Six Six Six
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
169
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Posted - 2013.07.03 18:40:00 -
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P3ps1 Max wrote:I've seen quite a few posts regarding this F2P nonsense. The best avenue to take for the company 'imo', is to charge for an expansion(s). With 4 expansions each year with a set price at 19.99$ or 1 expansion with 3 content updates during the year A company that comes to mind that is extremely successful with this is Guild Wars 2 (which is a pretty bad ass game) which doesn't charge a cent to play each month. They do however have a **** load of micro-transactions from their market place but those items are not game changing but rather clothing and other cool paraphernalia . To me Eve is setup for success using this business model.
GW2 is crap I won't say I saw evidence of it being successful when I played it. Although they don't have accounts closing, but that's only because there are no subscriptions. With GW2 you also neglect to mention you have to pay initially for the game itself and likely any major expansions. You also neglect to mention that they sell gems that you can buy like PLEX in order to sell on the market for in-game gold
As for paying expansions, just no. Most of EVE's expansion aren't worth paying for anyway other than with the normal subscriptions.
Edit: One other thing about GW2, they make it harder to make in-game gold so that you will be tempted to by gold to in-game via gems which you purchase from them. |
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
971
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Posted - 2013.07.03 18:43:00 -
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In this thread someone that believes "Minerals are free if you mine them and people play for FREE because they use PLEX" ... Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco |
Onomerous
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
171
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Posted - 2013.07.03 18:44:00 -
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0/10
Stop feeding him. |
Arec Bardwin
981
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Posted - 2013.07.03 18:56:00 -
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This thread should easily be (t)rolling into page 8. Congrats OP. |
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
478
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Posted - 2013.07.03 18:56:00 -
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Shaera Taam wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:Since this thread is obviously about nothing important, I propose we alter it to include human sacrifice and lesbian pod goo catfights. Heh, lesbians I know would help each other climb out of said pod-goo, kick you in the balls, roll you for your wallet, and stroll out of the room hand-in-hand singing Kumbayah. But who am I to judge your fantasy? Now, human sacrifice? Low sec. See it every day.
No one will pay isk to see lesbians being helpful to one another.
More people to be dissolved in acid. Rifterlings Corporation is now recruiting pilots for faction warfare solo & small gang frigate PvP. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
569
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Posted - 2013.07.03 18:58:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:
More people to be dissolved in acid.
Now now
If you get too eager, you may kill them due to shock
before they are more than
40%
Liquidised
MMmmhhmmmm " Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
479
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Posted - 2013.07.03 19:16:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:
More people to be dissolved in acid.
Now now If you get too eager, you may kill them due to shock before they are more than 40% Liquidised MMmmhhmmmm
Sorry, Ms. McCandless. I get carried away sometimes. Rifterlings Corporation is now recruiting pilots for faction warfare solo & small gang frigate PvP. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |
Daisai
The Riot Formation Unclaimed.
100
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Posted - 2013.07.03 19:19:00 -
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P3ps1 Max wrote:I've seen quite a few posts regarding this F2P nonsense. The best avenue to take for the company 'imo', is to charge for an expansion(s). With 4 expansions each year with a set price at 19.99$ or 1 expansion with 3 content updates during the year A company that comes to mind that is extremely successful with this is Guild Wars 2 (which is a pretty bad ass game) which doesn't charge a cent to play each month. They do however have a **** load of micro-transactions from their market place but those items are not game changing but rather clothing and other cool paraphernalia . To me Eve is setup for success using this business model.
The problem with asking money for an expansion is that players wont be able to play without this expansion. This is unlike other mmo's so far as i know where you are able to play the game, just not the content which is released with the expansion.
The current business model is a very good one and one alot of mmo developer wish they could copy. You basicly already have a free to play game for people who play alot and make the money but also habe a subscription option. This without the downside of a pay to win factor which you see in other games.
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
572
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Posted - 2013.07.03 19:20:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote: Sorry, Ms. McCandless. I get carried away sometimes.
Its ok, there are always a few "practise models"
We like to call them
"children" " Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance
Tell The Others |
cepo
Sonoran Shadow
12
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Posted - 2013.07.03 19:38:00 -
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Nice try, sean decker. |
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marVLs
226
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Posted - 2013.07.03 20:09:00 -
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Why again this stupid idea... |
Lipbite
Express Hauler
702
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Posted - 2013.07.03 20:12:00 -
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I'd pay $49.95 for optional WiS expansion. |
Zeus Zed
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2013.07.03 20:39:00 -
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The op is prolly the new hire of ccp |
Setaceous
Nexus Prima
151
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Posted - 2013.07.03 20:55:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:P3ps1 Max wrote:@Doc Fury
geesh,
1:05 mark "descent percentage of our user base" use plex to play.
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You didn't say "decent percentage" in your OP now did you? You said a majority, which means more than 50%.
lol just wow So, you don't understand what words in English mean either? lol just wow! No, you should just go back to WoW. Would people please stop saying this. When someone like the OP leaves WoW, even that community* doesn't want him back.
*a community tarred with the brush of players like the OP, tainted by the worst players being out of the game and shitting up other games |
Nery Nebu
Griff-Co
0
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Posted - 2013.07.04 13:49:00 -
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P3ps1 Max wrote:A company that comes to mind that is extremely successful with this is Guild Wars 2 (which is a pretty bad ass game) which doesn't charge a cent to play each month. They do however have a **** load of micro-transactions from their market place but those items are not game changing but rather clothing and other cool paraphernalia . To me Eve is setup for success using this business model.
You know that Guildwars 2 is dieing ?? Aswell as most of the free2play games out there. The free2play model is not that attractive anymore, as it was in the beginning. Now there are just too much of them.
Subscribtion model is the future.
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SKINE DMZ
YouView INC
37
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Posted - 2013.07.04 14:18:00 -
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I think op has not thought this through |
Bischopt
Arbitrary Repossession
125
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Posted - 2013.07.04 14:19:00 -
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P3ps1 Max wrote:I've seen quite a few posts regarding this F2P nonsense. The best avenue to take for the company 'imo', is to charge for an expansion(s). With 4 expansions each year with a set price at 19.99$ or 1 expansion with 3 content updates during the year A company that comes to mind that is extremely successful with this is Guild Wars 2 (which is a pretty bad ass game) which doesn't charge a cent to play each month. They do however have a **** load of micro-transactions from their market place but those items are not game changing but rather clothing and other cool paraphernalia . To me Eve is setup for success using this business model.
No, go away. |
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
1459
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Posted - 2013.07.04 14:20:00 -
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Posting in a CCP EADecker alt thread |
Spankijs Omaristos
Asteria Imperative Tribal Band
8
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Posted - 2013.07.04 14:33:00 -
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I fully support this!
Cmon' guys n gals, I think We should support CCP!! They bring us great game and we shall support them!
I cant get this, why so many of you have no support for them? You do understand, that moar money they make, the moar content, support etc we get? And everyone is happy?
Are you all really that greedy, that you cant spent 60-80 bucks per year? |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
363
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Posted - 2013.07.04 14:40:00 -
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P3ps1 Max wrote:I've seen quite a few posts regarding this F2P nonsense. The best avenue to take for the company 'imo', is to charge for an expansion(s). With 4 expansions each year with a set price at 19.99$ or 1 expansion with 3 content updates during the year
4 expansions a year which 3 should be considered even patches.
So little content to justify being called an expansion (which introduces major content).
Other games release expansions to introduce huge amounts of new content (in WoW another continent; storyline; new themes). They leave the more minor updates to patches.
5.4 in WoW coming up is but a patch. 5.4 in EvE would be 3 years of development (can wrap all the changes in EvE in 3 years into one WoW patch).
When you start paying for expansions you expect it's worth the $19 or $39 price. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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