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Sakura Imoru
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.30 17:47:00 -
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I wonder when this Devblog they promised is going to be published? |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3405
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Posted - 2012.01.30 19:15:00 -
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Astrid Stjerna wrote:Doc Fury wrote:I think people who expect deliverables for WIS that meet their expectations happening in the next year have sand in their heads.
If you really think 4 devs and a single QA guy can build and deliver on the stuff you are all expecting, I hate to be the one who pees in your cornflakes, but this is CCP folks. Over-promise and underdeliver is their company mantra. They only scramble when their asses are on the line. Richard Garriott programmed Akalabeth by himself in his garage every other weekend. Colossal Cave Adventure, the first text-adventure, was programmed by one man, refined by another, and set the path of the gaming industry for the next forty years. Ken and Roberta Williams programmed Mystery House, the very first graphical adventure game, by themselves, sitting in their living room. Will Wright programmed the original SimCity in his spare time, inspired by a product that he was already working on. The World Wide Web was the product of one man with a vision. Teams of '4 devs and a single QA guy' were setting trends in the computer industry more than thirty years ago. You don't need three hundred people to make a good product.
Oddly enough I havent played or heard of any of these games.
Secondly it was a team of 40+ for the first interations of arpa net, millions of tax payers, a gaggle super majority of politicans voting for its demilitarization into commericalization and two guys in a garage coding it as a joke that made it a trend that brought it to every home. Those two guys still send me free CD's every month I use for decorations as an ex customer.
I still think the two guys responsible for google was much more interesting. Then four(5?) guys who started a widely popular video playing website with the self proclaim prophecy that this isnt going to work as thier very first video uploaded to the size. The first of millions.
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Doris Dents
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
169
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Posted - 2012.01.30 19:16:00 -
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Looks like Space Barbie will get more dev time than spaceships ever got while they were working on Incarna for a year and a bit so stop complaining. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3405
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Posted - 2012.01.30 19:39:00 -
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As much as I like incarna I will not vote for any CSM candidate thats running for that as a platform. CCP needs to take incanra slow not shove it down the throats again and I dont want a Eve player being the guys stomping on that wad of paper.
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Aquila Draco
143
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Posted - 2012.01.30 19:46:00 -
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Doris Dents wrote:Looks like Space Barbie will get more dev time than spaceships ever got while they were working on Incarna for a year and a bit so stop complaining.
Some ppl just aren't smart enough to calculate 2+2. that ppl other ppl call dumb. so please don't write again and stop sharing your dumbness. |
Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
67
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Posted - 2012.01.30 19:47:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote: Secondly it was a team of 40+ for the first interations of arpa net, millions of tax payers, a gaggle super majority of politicans voting for its demilitarization into commericalization and two guys in a garage coding it as a joke that made it a trend that brought it to every home. Those two guys still send me free CD's every month I use for decorations as an ex customer.
the post you replied to talked about the world wide web, not about the internet
Usenet, gopher, WWW, email, ... are all just services offered on/over the internet.
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oldbutfeelingyoung
418
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Posted - 2012.01.30 21:48:00 -
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Doris Dents wrote:Looks like Space Barbie will get more dev time than spaceships ever got while they were working on Incarna for a year and a bit so stop complaining.
Any one complaining here? not me lets wait for that blog they promised and see what they have in mind
I emote the ones who don,t like Emoting :) |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1101
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Posted - 2012.01.30 21:49:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:As much as I like incarna I will not vote for any CSM candidate thats running for that as a platform. CCP needs to take incanra slow not shove it down the throats again and I dont want a Eve player being the guys stomping on that wad of paper.
Don't you think it would be valuable to have a CSM member that encourages CCP to keep ambulation in their plans and not lobby for its total abandonment? The CSM was anti-ambulation. I think we need a candidate that keeps CCP thinking about it and working on ti steadily in reasonable balance with other game features.
The Voice of Reason party will make that part of our focus. The make sure CCP knows there is active interest in ambulation and to not abandon it.
Issler |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
16
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Posted - 2012.01.30 22:28:00 -
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The CSM isn't anti-ambulation. They're just anti-Incarna. Incarna was a failed, rushed attempt to monetize peoples desire for WiS.
I'm anti-Incarna too, but extremely pro Ambulation. WiS is, I think, the next big feature that needs to be released, developed slowly while FiS is fixed, since FiS is the core of EVE gameplay. |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
315
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Posted - 2012.01.30 22:50:00 -
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More accurately, the CSM is opposed to CCP tipping huge piles of subscription money down the toilet (like any other player), and spending 5 years of development time to come up with a dirty closet, $70 macro-transactions and a new way to set your graphics card on fire is pretty much a textbook example of it.
If CCP can come up with a usable version of WiS which has some actual gameplay attached to it, then fine, lets have WiS, but so far there's precious little evidence that the feature has any utility beyond selling monocles and beta-testing the graphics engine for a game that now might never see the light of day. ~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1257
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Posted - 2012.01.31 00:36:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:More accurately, the CSM is opposed to CCP tipping huge piles of subscription money down the toilet (like any other player), and spending 5 years of development time to come up with a dirty closet, $70 macro-transactions and a new way to set your graphics card on fire is pretty much a textbook example of it.
If CCP can come up with a usable version of WiS which has some actual gameplay attached to it, then fine, lets have WiS, but so far there's precious little evidence that the feature has any utility beyond selling monocles and beta-testing the graphics engine for a game that now might never see the light of day.
Gawd, please get your facts straight before you post. And while you're at it, try reading the various CCP Dev replies in this thread. I even posted a few of them at the top of this page.
The hugh piles of subscription money wasn't spent on WiS or the NEX and MT. CCP bought out another company (White Wolf) and invested into 2 other projects. Don't try to say CCP spent 5 years focused on WiS either. There was a lot of other gameplay content developed and released just in the past 3 years.
As for graphic cards burning up, boo hoo. I had a 10 yr old very limited computer which was able to run CQ. Granted it was super laggy and took a long time to load due to game settings placed on low but hey, if my old computer could do it, those high priced new gaming computers should have been able to do it. What really boggles my mind is I just bought a new computer for $400 and guess what, it runs excellent with the CQ active and all Eve settings on high.
So you don't like the NEX store, fine. Nobody is forcing you to buy anything from it. WiS gameplay will be incorporated into the game. Unfortunately right now CCP is a little bit gun shy and is busy placating a very vocal minority. Plus they seriously need to continue fixing all the broken unfinished content in the game.
As far as I know, the current CSM has not supported any WiS development and I doubt they ever will. I will place my vote with Issler Dainze and I encourage others to do the same.
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Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1218
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Posted - 2012.01.31 00:42:00 -
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I may also vote for Issler. Not sure...I get all my facts before making a decision. Was gonna run myself but I think I have far too many people on these forums that hate me to have any chance of succeeding. No point in splitting the voter pool even a little if you ain't gonna win and you know it. Kinda screws the pooch for everybody else if you know what I mean. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1257
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Posted - 2012.01.31 02:08:00 -
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Yeah, I also entertained the notion of running for CSM. At this time I'd much rather support someone who has more conviction and dedication to do it than I do. Besides that, I feel Issler Dainze shares the same concerns and viewpoints as I have on a lot of issues. A hell of a lot more than the current CSM or anyone else even remotely affiliated with them. If I understand you correctly, then you pretty much feel the same way and as you said, why split the vote when you can easily help solidify it for someone else who roughly shares the same viewpoints.
I belong to NPC starter corp which has a lot of players in it. I also have quite a few other chat channels open while in game. Also it seems lately my name often gets recognized in local chat at various times, probably due to the 'Faction Standing Repair Plan'. All of these seem like a good opportunity to do a little bit of endorsement for someone who definitely would like to see WiS gameplay content developed.
As for the Forums, I'm sure we're all disliked by someone. And I don't think the Forums really matter too much. I think the way to get votes is to convo players in the game via local chat. Basically let em know who you are and what your stance is on various topics, discuss main issues with possible solutions and collect ideas for the future. More or less let the public know that you want to represent them.
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Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1218
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Posted - 2012.01.31 02:18:00 -
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Yeah...this is true. I have the time to dedicate to being a CSM member. I spend almost all my time on the forums at work anyway and could take time off if need be. I just don't think I would garner the votes to make it worth it...so I will support someone I know can.
EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1101
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Posted - 2012.01.31 03:15:00 -
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Just a note to folks that expressed interest in running for the CSM, the VoR will try and create a slate of candidates. If what you see as planks in the VoR party platform match your thinking I encourage to join in the soon to follow discussions and consider running as a VoR candidate. Once we get closer to the elections we'll try some party straw polls to like the most likely to be elected "top few" and then put all our support behind those candidates.
I'm working now to look at ways outside the forums to get the word out about the Voice of Reason.
I may be tilting at solar wind-mills but they look like giants that need a good 'sploding and I'm going to give it my best! :-)
Issler |
Aquila Draco
143
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Posted - 2012.01.31 11:22:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:Just a note to folks that expressed interest in running for the CSM, the VoR will try and create a slate of candidates. If what you see as planks in the VoR party platform match your thinking I encourage to join in the soon to follow discussions and consider running as a VoR candidate. Once we get closer to the elections we'll try some party straw polls to like the most likely to be elected "top few" and then put all our support behind those candidates.
I'm working now to look at ways outside the forums to get the word out about the Voice of Reason.
I may be tilting at solar wind-mills but they look like giants that need a good 'sploding and I'm going to give it my best! :-)
Issler
+1 for you and your VoR platform. |
oldbutfeelingyoung
418
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Posted - 2012.01.31 17:25:00 -
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i wish you good luck with this,you need it against big alliances csm candidates
I emote the ones who don,t like Emoting :) |
Dowla Daupor
RED Rabbits
13
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Posted - 2012.01.31 19:12:00 -
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The CSM is most definitely opposed to WiS, do you people have no memory? It's clear to see why, 0.0 has little use for in station activities, in fact they may actually threaten alliance infrastructure. If players stay docked they aren't farming. Also, 0.0 stations in player sovereignty systems would be rather lonely compared to the constant hodgepodge of activity in high sec and even low-sec stations will be. |
oldbutfeelingyoung
418
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Posted - 2012.01.31 21:38:00 -
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Dowla Daupor wrote:The CSM is most definitely opposed to WiS, do you people have no memory? It's clear to see why, 0.0 has little use for in station activities, in fact they may actually threaten alliance infrastructure. If players stay docked they aren't farming. Also, 0.0 stations in player sovereignty systems would be rather lonely compared to the constant hodgepodge of activity in high sec and even low-sec stations will be.
Opposed to WIS ? i don,t think so, Incarna 1.0 yes maybe incarna 2.5 will have some backup from any CSM6 or 7 or 8 or 9 but i don,t care what the CSM thinks or wants,i care what i want and maybe a lott of other players want.
I emote the ones who don,t like Emoting :) |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
315
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Posted - 2012.01.31 21:55:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Scatim Helicon wrote:More accurately, the CSM is opposed to CCP tipping huge piles of subscription money down the toilet (like any other player), and spending 5 years of development time to come up with a dirty closet, $70 macro-transactions and a new way to set your graphics card on fire is pretty much a textbook example of it.
If CCP can come up with a usable version of WiS which has some actual gameplay attached to it, then fine, lets have WiS, but so far there's precious little evidence that the feature has any utility beyond selling monocles and beta-testing the graphics engine for a game that now might never see the light of day. Gawd, please get your facts straight before you post. And while you're at it, try reading the various CCP Dev replies in this thread. I even posted a few of them at the top of this page. The hugh piles of subscription money wasn't spent on WiS or the NEX and MT. CCP bought out another company (White Wolf) and invested into 2 other projects. Don't try to say CCP spent 5 years focused on WiS either. There was a lot of other gameplay content developed and released just in the past 3 years. As for graphic cards burning up, boo hoo. I had a 10 yr old very limited computer which was able to run CQ. Granted it was super laggy and took a long time to load due to game settings placed on low but hey, if my old computer could do it, those high priced new gaming computers should have been able to do it. What really boggles my mind is I just bought a new computer for $400 and guess what, it runs excellent with the CQ active and all Eve settings on high. So you don't like the NEX store, fine. Nobody is forcing you to buy anything from it. WiS gameplay will be incorporated into the game. Unfortunately right now CCP is a little bit gun shy and is busy placating a very vocal minority. Plus they seriously need to continue fixing all the broken unfinished content in the game. As far as I know, the current CSM has not supported any WiS development and I doubt they ever will. I will place my vote with Issler Dainze and I encourage others to do the same. itt: people who want a spaceship game to be about spaceships are a 'vocal minority'
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
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Temmu Guerra
Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
40
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Posted - 2012.01.31 22:06:00 -
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You do realize with this VoR platform of yours your just going to dilute the voting pool right? You cant tell CCP at the end of it all to give all the votes from other ppl to one guy that is part of your party. This isnt the primary this is the final race. |
Reachok
Full Circle Research Corporation
4
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Posted - 2012.01.31 22:27:00 -
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Well, I had a really well thought out, long post in favor of WIS, but when I tried to preview it, it disappeared.
So...
Short version: CCP just do it. Don't try to make it perfect, I already like my avatar. I just want to get out of my cabin.
Thanks,
Reachok
The bad guys went the other way, seriously.... |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1101
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Posted - 2012.02.01 01:06:00 -
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Temmu Guerra wrote:You do realize with this VoR platform of yours your just going to dilute the voting pool right? You cant tell CCP at the end of it all to give all the votes from other ppl to one guy that is part of your party. This isnt the primary this is the final race.
We are going to try and find the most electable of the candidates that support the VoR platform and ask the supporters of the partty to put their votes to that candidate(s).
But, yes, vote dillution is a concern we need to address.
We will be asking the pilots of Eve the reject a power block null candidate or a high sec sock puppet still influenced by the power block to support the VoR candidate and make sure someone represents the "little guy" and keeps things like ambulation in the CSM discussions with CCP in CSM 7.
Issler Dainze Voice of Reason Party CSM Candidate
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1257
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Posted - 2012.02.01 21:05:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Scatim Helicon wrote:More accurately, the CSM is opposed to CCP tipping huge piles of subscription money down the toilet (like any other player), and spending 5 years of development time to come up with a dirty closet, $70 macro-transactions and a new way to set your graphics card on fire is pretty much a textbook example of it.
If CCP can come up with a usable version of WiS which has some actual gameplay attached to it, then fine, lets have WiS, but so far there's precious little evidence that the feature has any utility beyond selling monocles and beta-testing the graphics engine for a game that now might never see the light of day. Gawd, please get your facts straight before you post. And while you're at it, try reading the various CCP Dev replies in this thread. I even posted a few of them at the top of this page. The hugh piles of subscription money wasn't spent on WiS or the NEX and MT. CCP bought out another company (White Wolf) and invested into 2 other projects. Don't try to say CCP spent 5 years focused on WiS either. There was a lot of other gameplay content developed and released just in the past 3 years. As for graphic cards burning up, boo hoo. I had a 10 yr old very limited computer which was able to run CQ. Granted it was super laggy and took a long time to load due to game settings placed on low but hey, if my old computer could do it, those high priced new gaming computers should have been able to do it. What really boggles my mind is I just bought a new computer for $400 and guess what, it runs excellent with the CQ active and all Eve settings on high. So you don't like the NEX store, fine. Nobody is forcing you to buy anything from it. WiS gameplay will be incorporated into the game. Unfortunately right now CCP is a little bit gun shy and is busy placating a very vocal minority. Plus they seriously need to continue fixing all the broken unfinished content in the game. As far as I know, the current CSM has not supported any WiS development and I doubt they ever will. I will place my vote with Issler Dainze and I encourage others to do the same. itt: people who want a spaceship game to be about spaceships are a 'vocal minority'
Yes, the term 'Vocal Minority' pertains to a small group of players in this game that only want 'spaceship' content developed and nothing else.
CCP advertises Eve Online as 'a massive multiplayer online roleplaying space game'.
That includes everything from FiS to WiS.
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Elanor Vega
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
136
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Posted - 2012.02.03 16:47:00 -
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I hope that there will be some good news about WiS on FanFest. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3405
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Posted - 2012.02.03 20:16:00 -
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Or that blog we are all expentantly waiting for from team avatar.
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destiny2
Right Ascension
27
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Posted - 2012.02.03 21:26:00 -
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Throw WIS in trash can. Im still wanting a Bathroom in my Officer quarters been holding it in for 4 years.! |
Elanor Vega
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
136
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Posted - 2012.02.03 22:38:00 -
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WiS have 60 devs on it:
http://www.tentonhammer.com/ccp/interviews/world-of-darkness-dust-514-update
so... development of avatar technology is continuing... gooood news for WiS... |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1101
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Posted - 2012.02.03 22:49:00 -
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Sort of an odd intervire that seems to mix up the games interchangably then call the stew of goo Eve. The line "someday I want to pick up a controller in Eve" said it all for me. Continued confusion and spread focus makes me skeptical.
But please let me be wrong and see CCP deliver ambulaton soon.
Issler |
Elanor Vega
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
136
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Posted - 2012.02.03 22:56:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:Sort of an odd intervire that seems to mix up the games interchangably then call the stew of goo Eve. The line "someday I want to pick up a controller in Eve" said it all for me. Continued confusion and spread focus makes me skeptical. But please let me be wrong and see CCP deliver ambulaton soon. Issler
LOL... thats marketing guy talking there... so you cant expect that he play the game... :p and he is beside that new here.
And about ambulation - they are making tech for WoD and they will develop it fully - it would be dumb not to use it. Some ppl think that if EVE dont have WiS that it will not be developed at all... WRONG. It will be developed, just EVE would not get anything from that tech and that would be dumb... finance it and get nothing from it. So... lets use WoD and get all what we can from WoD team. Lets use all what CCP have for EVE.
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