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Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2011.12.08 00:46:00 -
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Flamespar wrote:Can you imagine what EVE would be like if all the whiners that dismiss Incarna as 'visual fluff', had their way?
We wouldn't have the trinity graphics engine, revamped planets, V3 textures, new warp effects, ship trails, new turrets, new shadows, new character creater, updated ship models, new weapon effects, revamped asteroid models.
Just to name a few.
All of these things enhance gameplay, even though they could be classified as 'visual fluff'.
yeah it's for the FIS gameplay master plan, we want it and allow it, that is why but no spacebarbies no don't insult me by mention that scumjob in the same sentence, don't use bad examples again i see posts saying eve needs a web 2.3 social network framework because "eve is stagnant" pretty pathetic when the incarna lovers here are mostly 3 alt corps and 2 corp alliances all you people are solo but want to be social and /emoting but how do you social when you are solo-ing look at evegate spacebook, the devs said hey this is the new social thing! we must have it, who's using it now? worthless (hey look i tacked on a bad example, like you, don't do it)
again explain to me how /emotes enhances gameplay?
One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you. |
oldbutfeelingyoung
418
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Posted - 2011.12.08 00:52:00 -
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Taiwanistan wrote:Flamespar wrote:Can you imagine what EVE would be like if all the whiners that dismiss Incarna as 'visual fluff', had their way?
We wouldn't have the trinity graphics engine, revamped planets, V3 textures, new warp effects, ship trails, new turrets, new shadows, new character creater, updated ship models, new weapon effects, revamped asteroid models.
Just to name a few.
All of these things enhance gameplay, even though they could be classified as 'visual fluff'. yeah it's for the FIS gameplay master plan, we want it and allow it, that is why but no spacebarbies no don't insult me by mention that scumjob in the same sentence, don't use bad examples again i see posts saying eve needs a web 2.3 social network framework because "eve is stagnant" pretty pathetic when the incarna lovers here are mostly 3 alt corps and 2 corp alliances all you people are solo but want to be social and /emoting but how do you social when you are solo-ing look at evegate spacebook, the devs said hey this is the new social thing! we must have it, who's using it now? worthless (hey look i tacked on a bad example, like you, don't do it) again explain to me how /emotes enhances gameplay?
it doesn,t have to enhance your gameplay,but maybe for others it will(if something meaningfull is done with WIS)
About always the same incarnalovers you are talking about,i believe that goes the same for the WIShaters here And we don,t talk about Incarna,only talking about WIS I emote the ones who don,t like Emoting :) |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1372
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Posted - 2011.12.08 01:22:00 -
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Taiwanistan wrote:
again explain to me how /emotes enhances gameplay?
And here i thought smack-talk is your best feature... Or other peoples too. .. Its actually same as /emotes ... so go figure it out |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1101
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Posted - 2011.12.08 02:12:00 -
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Midnight Hope wrote:Taius Pax wrote:Psychophantic wrote:It's obvious WiS is popular.
Look at the numbers for June and Incarna and compare them to current Crucible numbers. Incarna attracted a lot more attention.
Incarna's what caused that huge drop in subscriptions. The community backlash against Incarna was so bad and subscription losses substantial enough they had to lay people off and practically shelve development on their other MMO - World of Darkness. I think the message was pretty clear. You are right, Incarna sucked, but Incarna was not WiS. Equating them is a mistake. Even from the WiS perpective, Incarna sucked. The backlash was because of the lack of content (only one CQ with the door closed), gameplay and the NEX-T-2-useless Store. I, for one, want to get more WiS. CCP has to find the right balance or FiS and WiS in each expansion. I would love to explore an abandoned BS or Space Station. I would love to hang out in my Corp lounge/offices. I would like to stroll down Jita promenade.
Midnight, excellent ideas!!! CCP hire this person immediately!
Issler |
Flamespar
Woof Club
300
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Posted - 2011.12.08 04:39:00 -
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I've started a thread in the Assembly hall, asking that the CSM ask CCP to clarify the future of Incarna given Hilmar's conflicting comments.
I'm very specific that we're just wanting clarification on the future of Incarna over the next 12 months, not that it take precendence over any particular feature.
Please check it out and give support. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Kuronaga
Ausbruch
144
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Posted - 2011.12.08 05:22:00 -
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Reconfirming that Kuronaga likes WIS.
It is not the reason he was shooting at statues, in case CCP is having trouble figuring that out. |
Adamonus
The Scope Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2011.12.08 07:50:00 -
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what?,
WIS has a problem if more than 2-3 People would walk together in a station??? Is that information right?
WHAT is C.A.R.B.O.N. then ??? A marketing-GAG?
DTH, SIT DOWN and work it out omg!!
- Where is that crazy CAPTAIN CARBON from the FANFEST-video 2011??
- Give him his costume and a new soundmachine...Hilmar has a new opportunity now to make his community happy here again.
- Also want to know what happened to the CQ guy....CCP Chilliad? Silent overall...thats not good...not good.
Solve problems - and stop creating new ones (Summer-leak)
CAPTAIN C.A.R.B.O.N. FTW !! =======================
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaT9Z2zxPu0
Minute: 29:24
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Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum KUGUTSUMEN.
467
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Posted - 2011.12.08 08:25:00 -
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I'm still waiting on the ability to dress my Jita alt up as a *****. Your move CCP. |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
350
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Posted - 2011.12.08 10:02:00 -
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Doh, CSM meeting news:
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:Just a quick report on events at day 1:
Opening Meeting: Discussed the ongoing reorganization of CCP, designed to make the company better able to deliver what customers want. This means more a focus on spaceships that look good before, during and after they blow up.
Not a very promising start. What Crucible made for me: (nothing, null, void, nada) What CCP plans to do for me in 2012: same as above Account expires 14 January 2012 - 3:42 pm.-á
So long CCP, and thanks for all the dry shark. |
Psychophantic
217
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Posted - 2011.12.08 12:56:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:This means more a focus on spaceships that look good before, during and after they blow up
Damn those WiS hatin FiS'ers getting what they want.
Maybe we all need to split up into three camps, WiS, FiS and PiS. Pixels in space.
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Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
215
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Posted - 2011.12.08 13:04:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Doh, CSM meeting news: Trebor Daehdoow wrote:Just a quick report on events at day 1:
Opening Meeting: Discussed the ongoing reorganization of CCP, designed to make the company better able to deliver what customers want. This means more a focus on spaceships that look good before, during and after they blow up. Not a very promising start.
Where is this quote taken from? |
DarkAegix
Acetech Systems
976
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Posted - 2011.12.08 13:14:00 -
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Exotic dancers. Now. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3405
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Posted - 2011.12.08 13:34:00 -
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CARBON is basically rewritting of eve from original code, which is why every forefront feature was an addon not an improvement they made an estimate that carbon would take 18 months to completely rewrite 6 years of eve and sure enough it just about did require that much.
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Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
623
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Posted - 2011.12.08 13:39:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Doh, CSM meeting news: Trebor Daehdoow wrote:Just a quick report on events at day 1:
Opening Meeting: Discussed the ongoing reorganization of CCP, designed to make the company better able to deliver what customers want. This means more a focus on spaceships that look good before, during and after they blow up. Not a very promising start. CCP ignored FiS for WiS for 2 years. Subscriptions started to dwindle, people were pissed on the forums. CCP regained focus on WiS, subscriptions started going back up, people were less pissed on the forums.
Gee, I wonder why they're keeping at least some focus on FiS. |
Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
300
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Posted - 2011.12.08 16:06:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:Midnight Hope wrote:Taius Pax wrote:Psychophantic wrote:It's obvious WiS is popular.
Look at the numbers for June and Incarna and compare them to current Crucible numbers. Incarna attracted a lot more attention.
Incarna's what caused that huge drop in subscriptions. The community backlash against Incarna was so bad and subscription losses substantial enough they had to lay people off and practically shelve development on their other MMO - World of Darkness. I think the message was pretty clear. You are right, Incarna sucked, but Incarna was not WiS. Equating them is a mistake. Even from the WiS perpective, Incarna sucked. The backlash was because of the lack of content (only one CQ with the door closed), gameplay and the NEX-T-2-useless Store. I, for one, want to get more WiS. CCP has to find the right balance or FiS and WiS in each expansion. I would love to explore an abandoned BS or Space Station. I would love to hang out in my Corp lounge/offices. I would like to stroll down Jita promenade. Midnight, excellent ideas!!! CCP hire this person immediately! Issler
Are you kidding? How is the gameplay of hanging out in corporate offices any different than the game play of hanging out in your captains quarters?
You want to pay a subscription so you can stroll down a promenade??
FFS!
What is the matter with you people??
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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oldbutfeelingyoung
418
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Posted - 2011.12.08 16:09:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Doh, CSM meeting news: Trebor Daehdoow wrote:Just a quick report on events at day 1:
Opening Meeting: Discussed the ongoing reorganization of CCP, designed to make the company better able to deliver what customers want. This means more a focus on spaceships that look good before, during and after they blow up. Not a very promising start. CCP ignored FiS for WiS for 2 years. Subscriptions started to dwindle, people were pissed on the forums. CCP regained focus on WiS, subscriptions started going back up, people were less pissed on the forums. Gee, I wonder why they're keeping at least some focus on FiS.
Not Fis was ignored,but EVE itself. Not bc of WIS,but for WOD , a Console game and the Nex store And don,t forget CCP claim they did the last winterpatch with some expansions (still a patch,but it made a lot of people happy,including me) in 6 weeks imagine what they can do in a half year. They can do the tweaks you all want,add some shiny stuf in space and still be working on the WIS part with a small crew. the foundation for Wis is there ,all we want is some love for it by a small team
I emote the ones who don,t like Emoting :) |
Florio
Miniature Giant Space Hamsters
21
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Posted - 2011.12.08 16:30:00 -
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+1 for fixing existing ships (unique role per ship, even if that role is being cheap eg. slasher).
+1 WIS: this will probably get me back into the game. |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
215
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Posted - 2011.12.08 16:35:00 -
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Cearain wrote:[quote=Issler Dainze]
Are you kidding? How is the gameplay of hanging out in corporate offices any different than the game play of hanging out in your captains quarters?
You want to pay a subscription so you can stroll down a promenade??
FFS!
What is the matter with you people??
You are the one that has the problem. You are too small minded to consider the possibilities and your arguments deteriorate to "blah, blah, space-barbie".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t1SKhdCkHM |
Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
300
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Posted - 2011.12.08 16:53:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:Cearain wrote:[quote=Issler Dainze]
Are you kidding? How is the gameplay of hanging out in corporate offices any different than the game play of hanging out in your captains quarters?
You want to pay a subscription so you can stroll down a promenade??
FFS!
What is the matter with you people??
You are the one that has the problem. You are too small minded to consider the possibilities and your arguments deteriorate to "blah, blah, space-barbie". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t1SKhdCkHM
I have a problem because I have no desire to pay a subscription to have my computer avatar stroll down a promenade?
Whats the point of the youtube? It confirms there isn't much to wis. Drink a beer at a bar.
Play a minigame or strategy game with another avatar? Ok big deal. I actually like chess but there are chess servers I can play on for free.
What do you mean the argument deteriorates into "space barbie"? Its not an argument so much as a statement of fact. It is space barbies. Space barbie in a bar having a drink. Space barbie hanging out in her corporate lounge socializing. Space barbie can play a game of checkers with ken. And, last but not least, Space Barbie can stroll down a promenade!!
Please tell me, if you were to make "space barbies" which of the things he mentioned wouldn't fit in?
Everything he mentioned would work well in a "space barbie" mmo. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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oldbutfeelingyoung
418
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Posted - 2011.12.08 17:02:00 -
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Cearain wrote:Rek Seven wrote:Cearain wrote:[quote=Issler Dainze]
Are you kidding? How is the gameplay of hanging out in corporate offices any different than the game play of hanging out in your captains quarters?
You want to pay a subscription so you can stroll down a promenade??
FFS!
What is the matter with you people??
You are the one that has the problem. You are too small minded to consider the possibilities and your arguments deteriorate to "blah, blah, space-barbie". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t1SKhdCkHM I have a problem because I have no desire to pay a subscription to have my computer avatar stroll down a promenade? Whats the point of the youtube? It confirms there isn't much to wis. Drink a beer at a bar. Play a minigame or strategy game with another avatar? Ok big deal. I actually like chess but there are chess servers I can play on for free. What do you mean the argument deteriorates into "space barbie"? Its not an argument so much as a statement of fact. It is space barbies. Space barbie in a bar having a drink. Space barbie hanging out in her corporate lounge socializing. Space barbie can play a game of checkers with ken. And, last but not least, Space Barbie can stroll down a promenade!! Please tell me, if you were to make "space barbies" which of the things he mentioned wouldn't fit in? Everything he mentioned would work well in a "space barbie" mmo.
if you don,t want space barbie ,then stay on shipspinning if you don,t pvp ,stay in highsec if you want to blow up something ,go to 0.0 or gank a miner if you want to research ,go ahead if you want to manufacture, pls do makes EVE empty when somebody wasn,t doing that. if you want to play the market,then look at the spreadsheets if you want to mine,stare at those asteroids If you want FW,pls go ahead
i want Fis,but i want WIS also. You may never want to tryout WIS,but others are wanting WIS I emote the ones who don,t like Emoting :) |
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Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
300
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Posted - 2011.12.08 17:09:00 -
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oldbutfeelingyoung wrote: If you want FW,pls go ahead
Hopefully they will fix fw before they continue work on Space barbie. (and yes I will call it space barbie until someone tells me a feature that they are including in wis that wouldn't fit in a space barbie mmo.)
But fw needs allot of iterating. It won't just be one quick fix and be done. The same goes for null sec and low sec in general. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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oldbutfeelingyoung
418
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Posted - 2011.12.08 17:17:00 -
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Cearain wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote: If you want FW,pls go ahead
Hopefully they will fix fw before they continue work on Space barbie. (and yes I will call it space barbie until someone tells me a feature that they are including in wis that wouldn't fit in a space barbie mmo.) But fw needs allot of iterating. It won't just be one quick fix and be done. The same goes for null sec and low sec in general.
So we both want something, we feel its needs a little attention. Welcome to the club .
Greetings from Old or Oldbut (they can,t resist calling me this way)
I emote the ones who don,t like Emoting :) |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
215
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Posted - 2011.12.08 17:28:00 -
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Cearain wrote: Please tell me, if you were to make "space barbies" which of the things he mentioned wouldn't fit in?
I'm not sure where you guy have got this stupid term "space barbies" but it makes you sound really immature and pathetic.
All the arguments against WIS equate to saying, "I have a bike so why would i want a car with 4 wheel when my bikes 2 are perfectly fine? It's only after you get the car that you can appreciate the benefits.
Sometimes there is nothing to do in eve but sit around spinning your ship and i would much rather play a strategic game or gamble with a friend in station. Instead of sitting in a station waiting for a war target to undock at a moments notice, i could track him and see when he enters the docking area or i could listen in on a conversation that my lead to interesting opportunities...
There are endless possibilities to what WIS could offer but most of all, it would bring in a fresh wave of people if done right which would bring in more money to make the whole game better.
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Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
300
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Posted - 2011.12.08 19:03:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:Cearain wrote: Please tell me, if you were to make "space barbies" which of the things he mentioned wouldn't fit in?
I'm not sure where you guy have got this stupid term "space barbies" but it makes you sound really immature and pathetic.
I see it upsets you when I refer to it as space barbies.
But everything that is mentioned about wis (playing board games with your avatar - socializing with other computer avatars - watching your avatar have a drink - strolling down a promenade) all would be features of any space barbie game. Would they not?
So I can't help but think that you are upset because the truth hurts.
You are looking for a space barbie mmo and it upsets you when people point this out. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
215
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Posted - 2011.12.08 19:50:00 -
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No it's just that your ignorance annoys me. Maybe when you grow up a bit we can have an intelligent conversation...
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Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
300
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Posted - 2011.12.08 20:16:00 -
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. Rek Seven wrote:No it's just that your ignorance annoys me. Maybe when you grow up a bit we can have an intelligent conversation...
Ah I see, until I too nag ccp about space barbies I will always be deemed immature, ignorrant and unintelligent. That's the criteria.
Really I am not against having avatars do more. But right now the computer hardware is unlikely to support it - so why waste time pounding a round peg in a square hole? Moreover there is just huge amounts of work that needs to be done in making fw, low sec, and null sec work.
Nothing has been happening in null for years. It seems the null mechanics favor carebearing over war. FW is all but abandonned for years and ccp has offered no idea what the plan is. Low sec ..... well need I say more?
Its time for ccp to put incarna down for a while continue working on the core of the game Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
215
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Posted - 2011.12.08 22:04:00 -
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Cearain wrote:. Rek Seven wrote:No it's just that your ignorance annoys me. Maybe when you grow up a bit we can have an intelligent conversation...
Really I am not against having avatars do more. But right now the computer hardware is unlikely to support it - so why waste time pounding a round peg in a square hole? Moreover there is just huge amounts of work that needs to be done in making fw, low sec, and null sec work. Nothing has been happening in null for years. It seems the null mechanics favor carebearing over war. FW is all but abandonned for years and ccp has offered no idea what the plan is. Low sec ..... well need I say more? Its time for ccp to put incarna down for a while continue working on the core of the game
At last, a less toll filled response
I agree, CCP should polish existing features to fix all the little things that we experience every day and say to our corpmates "it should work like this..." but the bigger gripes, like null sec population, low sec mechanics and FW for example, stem from issues with the core gameplay mechanics. Changing gameplay mechanics would be a huge task like you said and it has an even bigger chance of alienating people and causing mass unsubs.
WIS has been in developement for ages and all they are going to release is a geaphically intensive way to view an avatar wearing a $70 monocle? That is unacceptable to me and I want to see the things we were told/show.
I just don't want incarna to be added to list of content that feels half finished in this game and I can't see how I can be expected to support the game when they are this quick to go back on their promises and waste my money developing unthoughtout content. |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
215
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Posted - 2011.12.08 22:05:00 -
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Edit: delete double post |
Titania Hrothgar
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
31
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Posted - 2011.12.08 22:13:00 -
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I want local to be changed to a high tech scanning ability.
I want WiS to be thrown away... I think no good will come from being shot in stations. Besides, it lags me to no end. I can play better graphix games than this with no lag... I play Sims 3 which is more detailed and my 4 sims walking aorund and laughing together in a 3 story house doesn't cause the lag that my one pilot does by simply walking down a hallway. There's no way I'm going to feel compelled to buy a new computer for the ability to walk down a hallway.
I would like to have a large war ship be equipped with the advanced combat capabilities of a tiny frigate.
I would also like to see a super dreadnaught capable of installing more than 2 guns.
That's my wish list :) Titania Hrothgar |
Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
623
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Posted - 2011.12.08 22:28:00 -
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Actually, as long as FiS is solid and not performing seppuku on itself, WiS is a logical next step for CCP. |
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