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Large Collidable Object
morons.
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:04:00 -
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Threads like this are the reason for the need of a dislike button... morons-áare recruiting. We're good at breeding! |
Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
155
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:10:00 -
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Astrid Stjerna wrote:Karadion wrote:Flamespar wrote:Yes a lot of players want walking in stations as was originally proposed. Not the single room that we got. There is a difference.
Incarna haters are unable to fathom this. No, we get it. Again the concept is still extremely limited. What gameplay functionality was there anyways? There's a thousand times more crap to do in FiS than WiS. So, you don't want anything to do when you get sick of flying your Internet Spaceship? I mean, I don't know about you, but I eventually want to do something other than shoot sixteen Gisii Hijackers for the millionth time in a row. Honestly, you took one look at Incarna and ran for the airlock. The CQs were not intended to be the only part of Incarna. It's like judging a peanut factory because they haven't filled all the packages yet. It's called a life. Once I go out and kill people, do my industries, etc. I go out and enjoy life if there's nothing else for me to do. Are you some kind of hambeast where you don't ever leave your chair? |
Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
15
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:12:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:Reading the CCP CEO interview I was taken by this comment.
"but the voice of the community is quite clear. People want more spaceships, and more flying in space features. That's very much what we are responding to. "
I don't agree, we certainly do want FiS but that doesn't mean we don't wasn more WiS. I think a lot of us do! And leaving WiS as single player prison cell CQ is a reminder that CCP can't keep its promises. The interview makes it clear there is no plan in the works or even being discussed to take WiS beyond the prison cell.
So if you wanted WiS please post in this thread because I think a lot of us want CCP to deliver more of what they have promised use for years now.
DO NOT ABANDON WiS!! LET US OUT THAT DOOR!!!!
Issler
CCP showed every intention of trying to financially shaft the space barbie WiS supporters, and here you lot are begging CCP not to abandon it. I just love that, CCP wanted you to bend over and take it, without lube whilst rifling though your wallet and now you are all upset because most players told CCP "no thanks" and they put their plans on hold.
Anybody who still supports space barbie and WiS after we saw CCPs pricing policy is a mug. |
Astrid Stjerna
Teraa Matar
34
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:14:00 -
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Karadion wrote:Astrid Stjerna wrote:Karadion wrote:Flamespar wrote:Yes a lot of players want walking in stations as was originally proposed. Not the single room that we got. There is a difference.
Incarna haters are unable to fathom this. No, we get it. Again the concept is still extremely limited. What gameplay functionality was there anyways? There's a thousand times more crap to do in FiS than WiS. So, you don't want anything to do when you get sick of flying your Internet Spaceship? I mean, I don't know about you, but I eventually want to do something other than shoot sixteen Gisii Hijackers for the millionth time in a row. Honestly, you took one look at Incarna and ran for the airlock. The CQs were not intended to be the only part of Incarna. It's like judging a peanut factory because they haven't filled all the packages yet. It's called a life. Once I go out and kill people, do my industries, etc. I go out and enjoy life if there's nothing else for me to do. Are you some kind of hambeast where you don't ever leave your chair?
What the hell is a hambeast?
Just because you enjoy FiS as the sum total of EVE doesn't mean someone else will feel the same. I, for one, prefer things to do when I log in and don't want to run missions, or kill people, or do industrial work, or when my corp isn't online to do something. Mining, for me, tends towards tedium after a little while, and it really isn't much more than a glorified fetch quest. |
Tashanaka
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:16:00 -
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Barakkus wrote:Tashanaka wrote:[ Agreed, WiS is a nice concept but once you walk around the station what is there to do? Nothing. What activities are going to add to WiS? No real details yet. What is going to make WiS better than docking into the hanger view? Nothing so far. So, where are the details?
CCP needs to put WiS on the back burner and work on FiS features/balance/upgrades until they have a concept for WiS that'd make it worth getting out of the hanger. They had one, as seen in the video from 2008 which we never got, but it looked awesome.
The one where they were walking around a mall and going into a bar playing a mini-game? It's a beginning concept --and a hell of a lot more than we DID get in Incarna-- but it's still void of any real gameplay. How much time do you see yourself drinking Quafe, staring at exotic dancers, and playing a RISK type mini-game before you get bored?
As I said, I'm not against WiS but it needs compelling gameplay that has meaning in EVE.
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Trainwreck McGee
Ghost Ship Inc.
78
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:18:00 -
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Tristan North wrote:Kengutsi Akira wrote:
There is no FiS Its called EVE Get it right at least
Really? Spaceships&Explosions is EvE? Thought it was a game with a lot of stuffs. Trainwreck McGee wrote:
It is true that when i pay for a product i want them to implement things that interest me. HOW SHOCKING!!
It is true that when i pay for a product i want them to implement ONLY things that interest me and **** the rest. That's shocking, yes.
you sir are an idiot then CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool |
Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
155
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:18:00 -
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Astrid Stjerna wrote:Karadion wrote:Astrid Stjerna wrote:Karadion wrote:Flamespar wrote:Yes a lot of players want walking in stations as was originally proposed. Not the single room that we got. There is a difference.
Incarna haters are unable to fathom this. No, we get it. Again the concept is still extremely limited. What gameplay functionality was there anyways? There's a thousand times more crap to do in FiS than WiS. So, you don't want anything to do when you get sick of flying your Internet Spaceship? I mean, I don't know about you, but I eventually want to do something other than shoot sixteen Gisii Hijackers for the millionth time in a row. Honestly, you took one look at Incarna and ran for the airlock. The CQs were not intended to be the only part of Incarna. It's like judging a peanut factory because they haven't filled all the packages yet. It's called a life. Once I go out and kill people, do my industries, etc. I go out and enjoy life if there's nothing else for me to do. Are you some kind of hambeast where you don't ever leave your chair? What the hell is a hambeast? Just because you enjoy FiS as the sum total of EVE doesn't mean someone else will feel the same. I, for one, prefer things to do when I log in and don't want to run missions, or kill people, or do industrial work, or when my corp isn't online to do something. Mining, for me, tends towards tedium after a little while, and it really isn't much more than a glorified fetch quest. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hambeast
Holy crap.. You have alot to do and you can't find the time to invest your time in other productive means like enjoying life, socializing with your friends (eve friends do not count.. I certainly don't call my Goonmates "friends"), etc. You need to expand your horizon. |
Skunk Gracklaw
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
382
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:21:00 -
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Astrid Stjerna wrote:Just because you enjoy FiS as the sum total of EVE doesn't mean someone else will feel the same. But he's a better person than you are so your opinion doesn't count.
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Valari Nala Zena
Perkone Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:23:00 -
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I think a lot of the naysayers are worried that EVE Online will turn into another WoW or hello kitty online due to WiS.
Sure, CQ is boring as hell but this doesn't mean that the end result of WiS can't be a worthy addition.
Personally, i like a bit of variety, and i seriously hope WiS won't be abandoned. |
Kugutsumen Dot Com
La Blue Girl KUGUTSUMEN.
33
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:23:00 -
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Texas Hold 'Em would rule, I fully support diverting FiS resources to Incarna if Texas Hold 'Em gets implemented. Especially if there are extremely detailed emotes for taunting or stoicism or something like that. I don't care. I just want EVE Poker where I don't have to trust those EOH guys whose faces are all over my captain's quarter's TV because of their ridiculously high bounties.
e: Texas Hold 'Em was literally one of the best things about Puzzle Pirates. Also totally owning scrubs and destroying their stuff and making them cry. |
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Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
155
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:25:00 -
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********** Dot Com wrote:Texas Hold 'Em would rule, I fully support diverting FiS resources to Incarna if Texas Hold 'Em gets implemented. Especially if there are extremely detailed emotes for taunting or stoicism or something like that. I don't care. I just want EVE Poker where I don't have to trust those EOH guys whose faces are all over my captain's quarter's TV because of their ridiculously high bounties.
e: Texas Hold 'Em was literally one of the best things about Puzzle Pirates. Also totally owning scrubs and destroying their stuff and making them cry. Then let's call it ****... Poker in Space Stations. |
Soulpirate
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:31:00 -
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+1 to the OP
I just can't get over how some people are so afraid of change and the growth of EVE. |
Skunk Gracklaw
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
392
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:32:00 -
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Soulpirate wrote: groth of EVE. eww
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EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
211
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:34:00 -
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Soulpirate wrote:+1 to the OP
I just can't get over how some people are so afraid of change and the groth of EVE.
your carn't speel guud |
Soulpirate
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:37:00 -
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Large Collidable Object wrote:Threads like this are the reason for the need of a dislike button... Carefull what you wish for. |
Dbars Grinding
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:37:00 -
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You mean; "also this is still missing the whole point by a mile, while smiling stupidly for the photographer who's taking a photo of you and your wife, who's also your mother and grandmother".[/quote]
YOU NO MAKE SENSE.
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Rhaegor Stormborn
BURN EDEN Northern Coalition.
134
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:38:00 -
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Maybe the WiS crowd should cancel thier subs and teach CCP a lesson. |
CATPAIN KIRK
State War Academy Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:40:00 -
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Soulpirate wrote: groth of EVE.
He's called Grath - Grath Teklin.
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Jenny Spitfire
LoneStar Industries Comatose Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:42:00 -
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I support more of doing something with 3D characters. It is a shame to leave things as they are now. |
Bennet Darcali
SeerHold
0
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:42:00 -
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Just my opinion about how it will play out
WIS is going to be dust.
Dust players will be able to defend orbital facilities (such as a customs office) by manning defensive batteries etc. Eve players will be able to hire Dust corps to defend their planets. The most we can expect to see is some sort of space port where EvE players can interact with Dust players.
The changes to customs offices are the first step towards letting Dust players defend assets in space and creating a new environment for interaction. (ie. not all the ship spinning and management stuff) Dust players will be able to build houses etc in orbit (NEX). Dust players will be able to buy equipment manufactured in Eve.
At least that is how I think it will eventually play out.
Much easier to add some space interaction to Dust then to add all that WIS to Eve.
All of that should work sometime in 2014.
Who knows really. I bet you will have to buy Dust to get WIS, which just makes sense really.
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Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
158
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:43:00 -
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Rhaegor Stormborn wrote:Maybe the WiS crowd should cancel thier subs and teach CCP a lesson. That's like.... 10 people? |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
181
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:44:00 -
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I don't want walk in station until there's shoot in station. Eve is a game all about taking risks and the ability of your enemies to catch you at a moment's noitce...if a whole section of the game were made 100% safe, it would stop being Eve. There should not be ANY content in this game that is accessible without there being a risk of PVP (and yes, the market is PVP itself). |
Large Collidable Object
morons.
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:46:00 -
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Jenny Spitfire wrote:I support more of doing something with 3D characters. It is a shame to leave things as they are now.
Genuine Jenny... morons-áare recruiting. We're good at breeding! |
Kengutsi Akira
95
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:46:00 -
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Nick Bete wrote:Kudos to the unidimensional thinkers for creating a false dichotomy. To have Incarna fleshed out and delivered doesn't preclude the continuing evolution of the space combat portions of the game. They can peacefully co-exist
so... what history do you have to support this?
Cause everyone else has CCP's putting SIX GODDAMNED PEOPLE on the rest of the game so they could work exclusively on Incarna to get out one Goddamned room for the last two years.
Dude, stfu you dont know what yer yapping about. Do the game a favor, unsub and move on.
"Even now, higher-ups still talk down on players," the insider told me, "and say we have just hit a bump because some bad players refuse to see the awesomeness of our vision. We're told that it is not our fault." Guess they DONT learn |
Hrald
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
12
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:48:00 -
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I'm okay with WiS as long as it's a secondary project. An entire update was just a room with a TV and open hatch so you can't even diddle your doodle. It added nothing to the game. All Eve related resources seemed to be going towards e-clothing lines. It was also heavy on the resources just to create the environment for a single person, let alone rendering a whole station full of people.
Until technology catches up, shelf WiS and only leave a couple people working on concepts for it or something. |
Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
159
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:49:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:I don't want walk in station until there's shoot in station. Eve is a game all about taking risks and the ability of your enemies to catch you at a moment's noitce...if a whole section of the game were made 100% safe, it would stop being Eve. There should not be ANY content in this game that is accessible without there being a risk of PVP (and yes, the market is PVP itself). Shoot in Station? I rather have MiS. Murder in Station. Chribba would be the #1 prime target. And the consequences for murdering is Concord putting you to death instantly. It'd be worth it! |
Kengutsi Akira
95
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:51:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:As for CCP never going back to something once they drop it, using FW an example is probably a bad choice considering that it will be a significant part of the Winter expansion. Not that they don't have a history of doing exactly that (with the exception of PI) but FW is a very bad example.
from Uniwiki:
Quote:Factional warfare was introduced by CCP with the Empyrean Age Summer Expansion 2008
They introduce it in 2008... let it sit for three years and are ONLY getting back to it now due to dramatic drops in subs and a wish to appease their pissed off customer base - yeah thats a horrible example. "Even now, higher-ups still talk down on players," the insider told me, "and say we have just hit a bump because some bad players refuse to see the awesomeness of our vision. We're told that it is not our fault." Guess they DONT learn |
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
90
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:54:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:
CCP never kept it a secret that they were developing the Incarna tech for both games.
Ranger, I have to point out that if they were developing Incarna for both games then should they still be developing in the absence of WoD? They shelved WoD and now they're not working on Incarna. Sounds a lot like they were developing for WoD, not Eve. We just happened to be a convenient test platform. That fact alone should make most people feel disappointed in how CCP has been operating. We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |
Kengutsi Akira
95
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:57:00 -
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arcca jeth wrote:
CCP should do the smart thing, survey their subscribers/non-subscribers. I wouldn't rely on trolls for my information on what the players want.
Easy question: How to do this and not get the trolls. They cant even do the CSM like that
Also, again, CCP's history shows (two years on stalled EVE development to focus on Incarna, the side game, releases one room) they CANT do the "both can live why not do that" crap, so what history and fact are you all basing your statements of "they can do both, I didnt say stop work on spaceships" on?
Mr Kidd wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:
CCP never kept it a secret that they were developing the Incarna tech for both games.
Ranger, I have to point out that if they were developing Incarna for both games then should they still be developing in the absence of WoD? They shelved WoD and now they're not working on Incarna. Sounds a lot like they were developing for WoD, not Eve. We just happened to be a convenient test platform. That fact alone should make most people feel disappointed in how CCP has been operating.
Funny thing is I made that point in the post he quoted "Even now, higher-ups still talk down on players," the insider told me, "and say we have just hit a bump because some bad players refuse to see the awesomeness of our vision. We're told that it is not our fault." Guess they DONT learn |
Jenny Spitfire
LoneStar Industries Comatose Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.10.24 23:00:00 -
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Large Collidable Object wrote:Jenny Spitfire wrote:I support more of doing something with 3D characters. It is a shame to leave things as they are now. Genuine Jenny...
No, I am serious. It is a good idea that can add an extra dimension to Eve and sadly, it is taken away. It is issues like this sometimes is killing the game.
Players especially old players being too rigid or conservative and cannot accept changes whether it may be good or bad. The bottom line, however, it is played, is just bitter vet syndrome.
If Eve started with 3D characters and micro-transactions, we will not have such conversation today. |
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