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Amir Darre
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.10 07:52:00 -
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I think WIS is a good idea but not to go overboards with pets etc.
I like the idea of a corp room being built into a station, so you can hang out with corp buddies. fun fun
Well yeah thats my 2 cents lol |
Grukni
Shimai of New Eden
47
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Posted - 2011.12.10 10:20:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Beaches wrote:Xtover wrote: What happened with that?..Did all of that work get scrapped?
They changed engines, not only was the old work abandoned but even if they still had it, it would be worthless as they've completely redone the code since. The primary causal factor behind this apparently is that they wanted to begin work on an engine which could be used with WoD. Xtover wrote: Didn't they have full stations modeled, and mini-games done?
Yes, I'm pretty sure the fanfest videos are still on youtube somewhere, there were strategy games, gambling, establishments, stations pretty much done. Mothermoon says she was able to scrape a lot of station modeling from the Incarna SiSi build. So they may have that work done here as well but the fundamental problem is that they cannot render multi-user environments with the Incarna engine. Realization of this problem occurred just before or just after the release of Incarna at least to the community although much before Devs questioned in private had revealed that 'they had no idea how they were going to make it work with multiple users' The end result is, CCP plowed down this dead end road probably with the attitude that problems and hurdles would be overcome later in development. But alas, they cannot, it's not possible with this engine and we're stuck in our tiny cells because of it. There has been a lot of speculation as to whether there is a tech issue holding up Incarna development. So far, that is all it is, speculation. We really don't know how Incarna scales yet. We don't know if our Avatar models put a huge amount of strain on it, or if it being linked to our hangers does, or if in fact that this is an issue for the engine at all. .
A hint: In the fanfest video you can see a Nvidia representative saying that within 5 years it will be possible to render 100 concurrent avatars (quoting the Moore's law). I don't think they can now render more than 5 avatars at the same time on a modern machine with the Carbon engine and its detail. |
Beaches
Doomheim
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Posted - 2011.12.10 10:23:00 -
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I'm watching Locked Up Abroad, I'm hoping the drug smuggling in WiS is a bit like this. |
Flamespar
Woof Club
300
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Posted - 2011.12.11 05:17:00 -
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Grukni wrote: A hint: In the fanfest video you can see a Nvidia representative saying that within 5 years it will be possible to render 100 concurrent avatars (quoting the Moore's law). I don't think they can now render more than 5 avatars at the same time on a modern machine with the Carbon engine and its detail.
Hopefully they will reveal the multiplayer environments at fanfest. (With multiple players in them, not just the environment itself"
CCP, care to comment?
You know instead of adding a new feature with the next big expansion, it would great to see existing features brought closer to the original vision that was promoted with each feature.
Like Planetary Interaction 2.0 (remember that dust will only involve null sec planets) The multi-player establishments. Null Sec revamp. The mining and exploration changes that have been talk about forever. Faction war\fare 2.0
I know the above is just the product of my currently fevered imagination. But how awesome would it be?
I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
oldbutfeelingyoung
418
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Posted - 2011.12.11 09:57:00 -
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CCP? you are there? hello? I emote the ones who don,t like Emoting :) |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
350
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Posted - 2011.12.11 10:30:00 -
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oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:CCP? you are there? hello?
Not there, not expected to be. I'm gonna write Meissa Anunthiel to see wether they talked about WiS at the meeting. What Crucible made for me: (nothing, null, void, nada) What CCP plans to do for me in 2012: same as above Account expires 14 January 2012 - 3:42 pm.-á
So long CCP, and thanks for all the dry shark. |
oldbutfeelingyoung
418
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Posted - 2011.12.11 10:39:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:CCP? you are there? hello? Not there, not expected to be. I'm gonna write Meissa Anunthiel to see wether they talked about WiS at the meeting.
thank you ,if they are allowed to talk bout it.
I emote the ones who don,t like Emoting :) |
Adamonus
The Scope Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2011.12.11 11:38:00 -
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Well I think the truth is:
If it takes too much time, it will be outdated soon. Burned beyond recognition.
The socializing-mmo aspect has become very important and popular the last years, ccp realized this fast, ok - but if people do not find it in eve, they will seek it in other games ofc.
Maybe it was too early to release CQ...I mean if progress is really stopped now...how long will player like to sit in their "prisons" and doing....yes doing nothing? So probably the "fire" and enthusiasm for/about WIS will be as fast over as it started..if nothing more is "feeded" within next year..
To say: "WIS developements are stopped" (and yes I personal believe that because its a little bit too silent about CCP chilliad - who was officially announced as the "CQ-pioneer") could be dangerous at this time, if all CCP-created community expectations are just meeting up developement stagnations (no matter which way)
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Gevlin
EXPCS Corp SpaceMonkey's Alliance
114
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Posted - 2011.12.11 12:29:00 -
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From what I read Incarna is at 15 to 20% of its original crew but still working slowly on its original design. I agree with several people: CCP needs to focus most of eve's recources on FIS, but the development of WIS still needs to continue, just as a slower and more efficient pace. In eve I wish to be more than just a machine. |
Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
623
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Posted - 2011.12.11 12:34:00 -
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Personally, I would say stop trying to make the tech superduper awesome, and just go for solid mechanics and then, if you must, go for graphics gee-wizzery. |
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oldbutfeelingyoung
418
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Posted - 2011.12.11 12:36:00 -
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Gevlin wrote:From what I read Incarna is at 15 to 20% of its original crew but still working slowly on its original design.
fine with me,but its speculation.
I emote the ones who don,t like Emoting :) |
oldbutfeelingyoung
418
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Posted - 2011.12.11 13:07:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Personally, I would say stop trying to make the tech superduper awesome, and just go for solid mechanics and then, if you must, go for graphics gee-wizzery.
about solid mechanics ,CCP made crucible a first step towards a solid mechanics playable EVE they done this in 6 weeks ,according to CCP itself
I emote the ones who don,t like Emoting :) |
viziel
Sarum Industrial Cartel
1
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Posted - 2011.12.11 13:24:00 -
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I WANT WiS. I'm not a fan of pvp, could care less about it. The more pve content the better. And ya, I know EvE isn't a pve game. But welcome to the sandbox, its what we make it.
I WANT WiS to be functional. I have CQ now, I dont use it, because after the initial usage you realize that there is nothing offered but I believe in the concept of it and I REALLY appreciate the devs expanding the game in a new direction.
We have seen some of their ideas for WiS, and we know that Dust is coming. This only seems natural. The amount of complaining to me (and this is only from my perspective of the game) seems immature.
I've put in my .02ISK |
oldbutfeelingyoung
418
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Posted - 2011.12.11 13:43:00 -
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hmmm Dust,did i pay for it? hmmm no!!! and still people are happy with Dust ,but not happy with WIS for EVE on the PC
I emote the ones who don,t like Emoting :) |
Psychophantic
217
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Posted - 2011.12.11 13:45:00 -
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Still looking forward to establishments and dealing with poker cheaters. |
Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
623
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Posted - 2011.12.11 14:10:00 -
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oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:about solid mechanics ,CCP made crucible a first step towards a solid mechanics playable EVE they done this in 6 weeks ,according to CCP itself Nah, they've fixed a lot of small niggly issues, added a few ships and changed a few database values in that time. I hope the next expansion will be where they make nullsec good, mechanically, so they can move on to make WiS good, mechanically.
viziel wrote:I'm not a fan of pvp, could care less about it. If you could care less about PVP, why don't you? |
Beaches
Doomheim
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Posted - 2011.12.11 14:30:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:about solid mechanics ,CCP made crucible a first step towards a solid mechanics playable EVE they done this in 6 weeks ,according to CCP itself Nah, they've fixed a lot of small niggly issues, added a few ships and changed a few database values in that time. I hope the next expansion will be where they make nullsec good, mechanically, so they can move on to make WiS good, mechanically. viziel wrote:I'm not a fan of pvp, could care less about it. If you could care less about PVP, why don't you?
I think 0.0 is doomed for as long as goons are the hegemon , or the player base learns Russian. Isn't their top intel channel based on the cartoon 'My Little Pony' unless most of us bump our heads and regress back to early in our development we're locked out (TEST isn't much better). Mechanic wise? Blobs, Super Caps, Bots, RMT and Bubbles; I think this is how CCP wants it to work and it's not attractive to most (when will CCP understand it's inherently unappealing?) . 0.0 isn't worth development over ANYTHING in my estimation because the players have already clearly drawn a line in the sand and said "no thanks" 0.0 denizens are a small minority, unworthy of any sort of priority. For those who think it's some sort of end game are clueless and should do back to WoW (they have ponies there to I think.) |
Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
623
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Posted - 2011.12.11 14:36:00 -
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Spoken like someone with a vast and intimate knowledge of 0.0. |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2011.12.11 14:48:00 -
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so the end game is avatars /emoting each other? One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you. |
Beaches
Doomheim
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Posted - 2011.12.11 15:08:00 -
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Taiwanistan wrote:so the end game is avatars /emoting each other?
There is no end game it's a sandbox you clueless twit.
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Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2011.12.11 15:10:00 -
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but youse the twit who thought 0.0 was the endgame One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you. |
Beaches
Doomheim
38
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Posted - 2011.12.11 15:15:00 -
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Taiwanistan wrote:but youse the twit who thought 0.0 was the endgame
No you're just ******** and can't read, now go run along and work on downing the final sansha dragon and save all of eve little goon. |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2011.12.11 15:20:00 -
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barbie is mad because there's no beach house for him One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you. |
oldbutfeelingyoung
418
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Posted - 2011.12.11 16:16:00 -
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hmm even the goonswarm is keeping this thread up,the Mittani must love WIS I emote the ones who don,t like Emoting :) |
Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
623
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Posted - 2011.12.11 16:29:00 -
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Confirming that The Mittani is pulling my strings. |
oldbutfeelingyoung
418
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Posted - 2011.12.11 17:00:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Confirming that The Mittani is giving me a wedgie.
fixed that
OOOw and also hey CCP are you there?
I emote the ones who don,t like Emoting :) |
Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
623
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Posted - 2011.12.11 17:02:00 -
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You mean boner, not wedgie, surely. |
oldbutfeelingyoung
418
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Posted - 2011.12.11 17:07:00 -
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heheheheh lol
thank you for keeping this thread alive m8 I emote the ones who don,t like Emoting :) |
Kuronaga
Ausbruch
144
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Posted - 2011.12.12 07:51:00 -
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A good goon wouldn't be posting on eve-o, let alone bumping a thread that threatens the sentiments of the great leader. |
oldbutfeelingyoung
418
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Posted - 2011.12.12 17:23:00 -
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Kuronaga wrote:A good goon wouldn't be posting on eve-o, let alone bumping a thread that threatens the sentiments of the great leader.
Good goons exist? but hey CCP are you there?
I emote the ones who don,t like Emoting :) |
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