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Aalam Naar
Hedion University Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2012.01.10 10:20:00 -
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Astrid Stjerna wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote: Excellent post.
I also posted a similar reply in this thread quite a while ago.
It was quickly attacked by anti-WiS advocators who stated that FiS still has multiple options for new game play content. My request for them to provide some examples was completely ignored.
Obviously their lack of imagination and vision has been clearly demonstrated with the constant posting of replies filled with nonfactual statements, insults and derogatory remarks directed towards those who support WiS development.
I agree. It's sickening, frankly, the level of immaturity displayed by the anti-WiS crowd. Now, since the WiS-haters obviously need to be smacked over the head with a rusty iron crowbar to understand the simplest sentence: We don't want EvE to die, either.Read that again, and try to keep your brains from melting, okay? We don't want EvE to die -- but we also don't want EvE to stagnate. We want CCP to innovate. We want them to continue to push the boundaries and bring us something new, instead of just rehashing last year's patches and putting a new coat of rust on the Minmatar ships. How many balance tweaks and graphical updates can you WiS-haters stand, I wonder? Two? A dozen? Three dozen? Because that's what you're asking for. You're asking CCP to stop being a company that pushes the envelope. EvE was once revolutionary. Anyone remember passing the 60,000-PCU mark? ( (See this link) ) Or how about Guiding Hand Social Club, who spent an entire year infiltrating a corporation before tearing it apart from the inside ( (And this one, too) ) That is the true core of EvE Online. Not FiS or WiS, or even spaceships in general, but a universe where literally anything is possible. Explore the sandbox, they said. See what's out there. Find your future among the stars. And what have we become, after seven years? Nothing more than an unruly, divided camp that doesn't seem to care what EvE could become, given a suitable creative spark -- after all, as long as it stays exactly the same, we're all fine, right? Right? We don't want EvE to die. We do want EvE to evolve.
Superb. Really and truly superb.
Excellent post Astrid! |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
215
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Posted - 2012.01.10 11:13:00 -
[2582] - Quote
Aalam Naar wrote:Astrid Stjerna wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote: Excellent post.
I also posted a similar reply in this thread quite a while ago.
It was quickly attacked by anti-WiS advocators who stated that FiS still has multiple options for new game play content. My request for them to provide some examples was completely ignored.
Obviously their lack of imagination and vision has been clearly demonstrated with the constant posting of replies filled with nonfactual statements, insults and derogatory remarks directed towards those who support WiS development.
I agree. It's sickening, frankly, the level of immaturity displayed by the anti-WiS crowd. Now, since the WiS-haters obviously need to be smacked over the head with a rusty iron crowbar to understand the simplest sentence: We don't want EvE to die, either.Read that again, and try to keep your brains from melting, okay? We don't want EvE to die -- but we also don't want EvE to stagnate. We want CCP to innovate. We want them to continue to push the boundaries and bring us something new, instead of just rehashing last year's patches and putting a new coat of rust on the Minmatar ships. How many balance tweaks and graphical updates can you WiS-haters stand, I wonder? Two? A dozen? Three dozen? Because that's what you're asking for. You're asking CCP to stop being a company that pushes the envelope. EvE was once revolutionary. Anyone remember passing the 60,000-PCU mark? ( (See this link) ) Or how about Guiding Hand Social Club, who spent an entire year infiltrating a corporation before tearing it apart from the inside ( (And this one, too) ) That is the true core of EvE Online. Not FiS or WiS, or even spaceships in general, but a universe where literally anything is possible. Explore the sandbox, they said. See what's out there. Find your future among the stars. And what have we become, after seven years? Nothing more than an unruly, divided camp that doesn't seem to care what EvE could become, given a suitable creative spark -- after all, as long as it stays exactly the same, we're all fine, right? Right? We don't want EvE to die. We do want EvE to evolve. Superb. Really and truly superb. Excellent post Astrid!
Couldn't have said it better myself. Very well put.
As annoying as they are, i feel sorry for the WiS hater as they seem deluded almost like a battered wife... Their husband (CCP) has treated them really badly in the past (Ignoring requests for improvements) but one day he decides to buy her a bunch of cheap flowers from the petrol station (crucible) and now she starts thinking "oh he does really love me after all, I think i'll stay with him" then a couple weeks later he beats here up again (disappointing expansion) and then she's back to square one crying on the bathroom floor (raging on the forums).
Now that resources are not being wasted on world of darkness, i see no reason as to why CCP can't work on WIS and FIS content. |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released 0ccupational Hazzard
496
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Posted - 2012.01.10 11:23:00 -
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Astrid Stjerna wrote:
yadda yadda
But now, try seeing WiS through the eyes of skeptics or even better, try seeing through the eyes of everyone at CCP. A company that just recently had to cut its workforce by 20% because they tried to push the envelope for 18 months and satisfy those that wanted avatars in EVE.
And I ask; why do you want to kill EVE so badly? I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2012.01.10 11:24:00 -
[2584] - Quote
Rek Seven wrote:Aalam Naar wrote:Astrid Stjerna wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote: Excellent post.
I also posted a similar reply in this thread quite a while ago.
It was quickly attacked by anti-WiS advocators who stated that FiS still has multiple options for new game play content. My request for them to provide some examples was completely ignored.
Obviously their lack of imagination and vision has been clearly demonstrated with the constant posting of replies filled with nonfactual statements, insults and derogatory remarks directed towards those who support WiS development.
I agree. It's sickening, frankly, the level of immaturity displayed by the anti-WiS crowd. Now, since the WiS-haters obviously need to be smacked over the head with a rusty iron crowbar to understand the simplest sentence: We don't want EvE to die, either.Read that again, and try to keep your brains from melting, okay? We don't want EvE to die -- but we also don't want EvE to stagnate. We want CCP to innovate. We want them to continue to push the boundaries and bring us something new, instead of just rehashing last year's patches and putting a new coat of rust on the Minmatar ships. How many balance tweaks and graphical updates can you WiS-haters stand, I wonder? Two? A dozen? Three dozen? Because that's what you're asking for. You're asking CCP to stop being a company that pushes the envelope. EvE was once revolutionary. Anyone remember passing the 60,000-PCU mark? ( (See this link) ) Or how about Guiding Hand Social Club, who spent an entire year infiltrating a corporation before tearing it apart from the inside ( (And this one, too) ) That is the true core of EvE Online. Not FiS or WiS, or even spaceships in general, but a universe where literally anything is possible. Explore the sandbox, they said. See what's out there. Find your future among the stars. And what have we become, after seven years? Nothing more than an unruly, divided camp that doesn't seem to care what EvE could become, given a suitable creative spark -- after all, as long as it stays exactly the same, we're all fine, right? Right? We don't want EvE to die. We do want EvE to evolve. Superb. Really and truly superb. Excellent post Astrid! Couldn't have said it better myself. Very well but. As annoying as they are, i feel sorry for the WiS hater as they seem deluded almost like a battered wife... Their husband (CCP) has treated them really badly in the past (Ignoring requests for improvements) but one day he decides to buy here a bunch of cheap flowers from the petrol station (crucible) and now she starts thinking "oh he does really love me after all, I think i'll stay with him" then a couple weeks later he beats here up again (disappointing expansion) and then she back to square one crying on the bathroom floor (raging on the forums). Now that resources are not being wasted on world of darkness, i see no reason as to why CCP can't work on WIS AND FIS content. naw dawg i am just against the idea of ccp putting any more resources to enable frivolous social features we wis haters are more of a good friend and we see our good friend (ccp) starting to develop a drug problem (the quick highs of "being like the rest of the market", stooping to korean practices), resorting to selling his body and soul at the airport bathrooms and we just had staged an intervention and we tell him, hey man, we love you just the way that you are, don't change on me bro, One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you. |
Xuko Nuki
Lacking In Diplomacy RED.OverLord
40
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Posted - 2012.01.10 11:28:00 -
[2585] - Quote
Taiwanistan wrote: naw dawg i am just against the idea of ccp putting any more resources to enable frivolous social features we wis haters are more of a good friend and we see our good friend (ccp) starting to develop a drug problem (the quick highs of "being like the rest of the market", stooping to korean practices), resorting to selling his body and soul at the airport bathrooms and we just had staged an intervention and we tell him, hey man, we love you just the way that you are, don't change on me bro,
You didn't stage anything, you just took the opportunity to attention ***** on the forums after CCP failed. Not judging, that's what goons do, many people are like that IRL. They just crave attention.
When WiS is released I'd like the join the Amarrian SS as an operative and infiltrate Rens in order to acquire information on the Minmattar underground railroad. Uh oh, I'm Caldari, I take this information back to my commander first and receive a small stipend of Achurian Opium under the table before heading off to the nearest Gallentean pleasure hub, unfortunately forgetting about my original mission. I see a runaway slave, I forget where I am and I try to capture him, I spend the rest of the night in jail.
Not exactly frivolous social features.
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Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2012.01.10 11:30:00 -
[2586] - Quote
Xuko Nuki wrote:Taiwanistan wrote: naw dawg i am just against the idea of ccp putting any more resources to enable frivolous social features we wis haters are more of a good friend and we see our good friend (ccp) starting to develop a drug problem (the quick highs of "being like the rest of the market", stooping to korean practices), resorting to selling his body and soul at the airport bathrooms and we just had staged an intervention and we tell him, hey man, we love you just the way that you are, don't change on me bro,
You didn't stage anything, you just took the opportunity to attention ***** on the forums after CCP failed. Not judging, that's what goons do, many people are like that IRL. They just crave attention. When WiS is released I'd like the join the Amarrian SS as an operative and infiltrate Rens in order to acquire information on the Minmattar underground railroad. Uh oh, I'm Caldari, I take this information back to my commander first and receive a small stipend of Achurian Opium under the table before heading off to the nearest Gallentean pleasure hub, unfortunately forgetting about my original mission. I see a runaway slave, I forget where I am and I try to capture him, I spend the rest of the night in jail. Not exactly frivolous social features. i think i've seen that movie before One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you. |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
215
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Posted - 2012.01.10 11:37:00 -
[2587] - Quote
Alpheias wrote:Astrid Stjerna wrote:
yadda yadda
But now, try seeing WiS through the eyes of skeptics or even better, try seeing through the eyes of everyone at CCP. A company that just recently had to cut its workforce by 20% because they tried to push the envelope for 18 months and satisfy those that wanted avatars in EVE. And I ask; why do you want to kill EVE so badly?
How did Incarna push the envelope? The only thing it pushed were graphics cards to their breaking point.
WiS didn't fail because it never came out. CCP failed because they pushed, the pretty but ultimately useless Incarna/Nex store on the players. |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
215
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Posted - 2012.01.10 11:55:00 -
[2588] - Quote
Taiwanistan wrote: naw dawg i am just against the idea of ccp putting any more resources to enable frivolous social features we wis haters are more of a good friend and we see our good friend (ccp) starting to develop a drug problem (the quick highs of "being like the rest of the market", stooping to korean practices), resorting to selling his body and soul at the airport bathrooms and we just had staged an intervention and we tell him, hey man, we love you just the way that you are, don't change on me bro,
In that example your friend is not happy with his life so advising him to stay the same would be the wrong thing to do IMO... I would help him look at his strengths, encourage him improve on those but also suggest new things he could do to overcome his weaknesses.
I think if we don't encourage CCP to think outside the box and try new things, then their staffs creative talents will go to waste and the game will grow stagnant. |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2012.01.10 12:24:00 -
[2589] - Quote
and then our good fried (ccp) went through with the NA program and is doing quite good but he is still a long ways from getting back on track
but his junkie scum friends (pro wis) are still calling him hey let's party like we used to and again we the good friends must step out and stop that. again One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you. |
Kuronaga
Ausbruch
144
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Posted - 2012.01.10 12:36:00 -
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Taiwanistan wrote:and then our good fried (ccp) went through with the NA program and is doing quite good but he is still a long ways from getting back on track
but his junkie scum friends (pro wis) are still calling him hey let's party like we used to and again we the good friends must step out and stop that. again
Want a hit?
First ones free... |
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Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
215
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Posted - 2012.01.10 12:38:00 -
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Taiwanistan wrote:and then our good fried (ccp) went through with the NA program and is doing quite good but he is still a long ways from getting back on track
but his junkie scum friends (pro wis) are still calling him hey let's party like we used to and again we the good friends must step out and stop that. again
That's all based on your sense of morality... Who are you to say what this friend should or shouldn't do?!
Don't kid your self into thinking you have shown CCP the light and they now realise you are right...
They ignored our requests for improvements (FW, bounty system, etc) for years and now because their vision utterly failed, they have given use ships that were designed by players and made improvements that were also suggested by players.
The fact is, the existing FIS stuff should be continually improved anyway but we should get new stuff aswell.
Do you honestly want CCP to do nothing but polish the game? |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2012.01.10 13:47:00 -
[2592] - Quote
you seem dead set on wis as the only avenue of "new stuff" and everything fis as "polish", and i disagree with that One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you. |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
215
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Posted - 2012.01.10 14:01:00 -
[2593] - Quote
Taiwanistan wrote:you seem dead set on wis as the only avenue of "new stuff" and everything fis as "polish", and i disagree with that
No, i see WiS as a way to add more variety, drastically different gameplay and a deeper sense of immersion to EVE. I see improvements to FiS content as being something that we should expect and not class as an "expansion".
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1257
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Posted - 2012.01.10 14:07:00 -
[2594] - Quote
Taiwanistan wrote:and then our good fried (ccp) went through with the NA program and is doing quite good but he is still a long ways from getting back on track
but his junkie scum friends (pro wis) are still calling him hey let's party like we used to and again we the good friends must step out and stop that. again
Junkie scum friends?
I resent that remark.
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Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2012.01.10 15:25:00 -
[2595] - Quote
DeMichael Crimson wrote:Taiwanistan wrote:and then our good fried (ccp) went through with the NA program and is doing quite good but he is still a long ways from getting back on track
but his junkie scum friends (pro wis) are still calling him hey let's party like we used to and again we the good friends must step out and stop that. again Junkie scum friends? I resent that remark. ok that was a low blow i acknowledge that One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1218
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Posted - 2012.01.10 15:39:00 -
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Bluestream3 wrote:Aalam Naar wrote:Let's all be perfectly honest here about the WiS discussion. It's painfully obvious that the scope of any future FiS content is reaching it's limit. There is not much else CCP can add to this element of the game while keeping EVE from getting stale in a few years time.
I agree, however, that there is fine tuning to be done with existing content. But that's essentially all there is left to do to improve on the 'spaceship' end of this MMO. Period. Simple. Get over it.
The only consideration for long term viability and focus is WiS. The ability for avatars to navigate a comprehensive science fiction themed genre is absolutely CCPs intention. They've already created an amazing new avatar generator, CQ, and other image improvement that flow organically into what the full intention of this game has been envisioned to be.
OP is liked. I wonder how many times this has been said in history, about many things. Everything that can be invented, has been invented. There's a total world market for about 5 computers. Well there are lots of quotes like it. If you're still playing in 5 years, I'm sure you could look back to this post and have a laugh about how wrong you were. I do not agree with the sentiment that there is nowhere else to go with FiS. There are I am sure plenty of things they can still do with FiS that nobody has even thought of yet. However...that is no reason to discount WiS. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1218
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Posted - 2012.01.10 15:41:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:Taiwanistan wrote:you seem dead set on wis as the only avenue of "new stuff" and everything fis as "polish", and i disagree with that No, i see WiS as a way to add more variety, drastically different gameplay and a deeper sense of immersion to EVE. I see improvements to FiS content as being something that we should expect and not class as an "expansion". This is a very good way to put it. WiS is actually creating NEW and FRESH content instead of just expanding on the old content. Again...not saying we shouldn't expand on the old content that is FiS and the core of EvE. But we should not be discouraging new content like WiS that adds more variety and more stuff to do. Even if you don't want to use it...it improves the game...draws in more players to shoot at in FiS...makes more money for CCP which in turn means better stuff all around.
Yes...CCP should keep a focust on fixing what needs fixed in FiS first.
EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
315
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Posted - 2012.01.10 16:11:00 -
[2598] - Quote
Rek Seven wrote:Taiwanistan wrote:you seem dead set on wis as the only avenue of "new stuff" and everything fis as "polish", and i disagree with that No, i see WiS as a way to add more variety, drastically different gameplay and a deeper sense of immersion to EVE. I see improvements to FiS content as being something that we should expect and not class as an "expansion".
The problem is we've seen little intent from CCP to provide 'gameplay' for WiS for some time. Perhaps in 2006 there was some talk of it, but the whole project was then sidetracked into a avatar dressing micro-transaction platform which serves mostly to fry graphics cards and beta a graphics engine for the now all but shelved White Wolf game.
The reason you're not hearing anything about future plans now or for some time is that the plans for the last couple of years can be summed up by "sell monocles and boots to players with too much rl money" and "test the WoD engine" and both those things have now been punted way over the horizon. If CCP are going to ever touch it again, they have to start the whole concept virtually from step one, and that's without even considering that they'd also need to fix the now obvious shortcomings of the Carbon engine before they got anything in a playable state, OR that (as I understand it) a large proportion of the recent 20% cuts came from the people who had been working on WiS.
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1276
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Posted - 2012.01.10 16:12:00 -
[2599] - Quote
Taiwanistan wrote:you seem dead set on wis as the only avenue of "new stuff" and everything fis as "polish", and i disagree with that
That's because your an idiot.
Don't like it? Tough.
Can I haz your stuff?
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Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2012.01.10 16:31:00 -
[2600] - Quote
Asuka Solo wrote:Taiwanistan wrote:you seem dead set on wis as the only avenue of "new stuff" and everything fis as "polish", and i disagree with that That's because your an idiot. Don't like it? Tough. Can I haz your stuff? lol go google up some more tired memes you worthless pedo runt
One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you. |
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Aalam Naar
Hedion University Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2012.01.10 16:53:00 -
[2601] - Quote
Taiwanistan wrote:you seem dead set on wis as the only avenue of "new stuff" and everything fis as "polish", and i disagree with that
I believe that was me who said that.
As an aside, I don't believe you provided any ideas to suggest how FiS features are lacking and that new content (regarding FiS) is necessary or required. |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
215
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Posted - 2012.01.10 17:06:00 -
[2602] - Quote
Scatim Helicon wrote:Rek Seven wrote:Taiwanistan wrote:you seem dead set on wis as the only avenue of "new stuff" and everything fis as "polish", and i disagree with that No, i see WiS as a way to add more variety, drastically different gameplay and a deeper sense of immersion to EVE. I see improvements to FiS content as being something that we should expect and not class as an "expansion". The problem is we've seen little intent from CCP to provide 'gameplay' for WiS for some time. Perhaps in 2006 there was some talk of it, but the whole project was then sidetracked into a avatar dressing micro-transaction platform which serves mostly to fry graphics cards and beta a graphics engine for the now all but shelved White Wolf game. The reason you're not hearing anything about future plans now or for some time is that the plans for the last couple of years can be summed up by "sell monocles and boots to players with too much rl money" and "test the WoD engine" and both those things have now been punted way over the horizon. If CCP are going to ever touch it again, they have to start the whole concept virtually from step one, and that's without even considering that they'd also need to fix the now obvious shortcomings of the Carbon engine before they got anything in a playable state, OR that (as I understand it) a large proportion of the recent 20% cuts came from the people who had been working on WiS.
I agree with you. However, i don't think CCP would need to redesign the concept, they would just need to go back to their original plans before some idiot decided to try and sell us $70 monolces |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1276
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Posted - 2012.01.10 17:30:00 -
[2603] - Quote
Taiwanistan wrote:Asuka Solo wrote:Taiwanistan wrote:you seem dead set on wis as the only avenue of "new stuff" and everything fis as "polish", and i disagree with that That's because your an idiot. Don't like it? Tough. Can I haz your stuff? lol go google up some more tired memes you worthless pedo runt
Right back at ya. |
Aalam Naar
Hedion University Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2012.01.10 17:36:00 -
[2604] - Quote
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote: I do not agree with the sentiment that there is nowhere else to go with FiS. There are I am sure plenty of things they can still do with FiS that nobody has even thought of yet. However...that is no reason to discount WiS.
Fair enough.
I am certainly not against new content of any kind as long as it is content that adds positively to the game.
I do believe, as you've mentioned, that WiS would create 'NEW and FRESH content instead of just expanding on the old'. Ultimately, I believe it will be something that very likely will need to be re-looked at with new focus, interest, and intent. |
Hikaru Kuroda
Shimai of New Eden
39
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Posted - 2012.01.10 20:49:00 -
[2605] - Quote
A CCP survey is up, provide useful feedback of WiS to them. Go! |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1372
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Posted - 2012.01.10 21:09:00 -
[2606] - Quote
*keeps reading. |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
315
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Posted - 2012.01.10 22:08:00 -
[2607] - Quote
Rek Seven wrote:Scatim Helicon wrote:The problem is we've seen little intent from CCP to provide 'gameplay' for WiS for some time. Perhaps in 2006 there was some talk of it, but the whole project was then sidetracked into a avatar dressing micro-transaction platform which serves mostly to fry graphics cards and beta a graphics engine for the now all but shelved White Wolf game.
The reason you're not hearing anything about future plans now or for some time is that the plans for the last couple of years can be summed up by "sell monocles and boots to players with too much rl money" and "test the WoD engine" and both those things have now been punted way over the horizon. If CCP are going to ever touch it again, they have to start the whole concept virtually from step one, and that's without even considering that they'd also need to fix the now obvious shortcomings of the Carbon engine before they got anything in a playable state, OR that (as I understand it) a large proportion of the recent 20% cuts came from the people who had been working on WiS.
I agree with you. However, i don't think CCP would need to redesign the concept, they would just need to go back to their original plans before some idiot decided to try and sell us $70 monolces
How much of an 'original plan' was ever made before it got shunted into NeX and Carbon, though?
Sure, there was some vague handwaving about Going Under The Radar to do Secret Walking Around Things. How much of that actually got planned beyond the vague handwaving? ~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
426
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Posted - 2012.01.10 22:15:00 -
[2608] - Quote
Trolls feeding trolls, this thread is going places. Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
523
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Posted - 2012.01.10 22:16:00 -
[2609] - Quote
Scatim Helicon wrote:Rek Seven wrote:Scatim Helicon wrote:The problem is we've seen little intent from CCP to provide 'gameplay' for WiS for some time. Perhaps in 2006 there was some talk of it, but the whole project was then sidetracked into a avatar dressing micro-transaction platform which serves mostly to fry graphics cards and beta a graphics engine for the now all but shelved White Wolf game.
The reason you're not hearing anything about future plans now or for some time is that the plans for the last couple of years can be summed up by "sell monocles and boots to players with too much rl money" and "test the WoD engine" and both those things have now been punted way over the horizon. If CCP are going to ever touch it again, they have to start the whole concept virtually from step one, and that's without even considering that they'd also need to fix the now obvious shortcomings of the Carbon engine before they got anything in a playable state, OR that (as I understand it) a large proportion of the recent 20% cuts came from the people who had been working on WiS.
I agree with you. However, i don't think CCP would need to redesign the concept, they would just need to go back to their original plans before some idiot decided to try and sell us $70 monolces How much of an 'original plan' was ever made before it got shunted into NeX and Carbon, though? Sure, there was some vague handwaving about Going Under The Radar to do Secret Walking Around Things. How much of that actually got planned beyond the vague handwaving?
Building carbon was always their plan, they cannot build WOD without it. As for the rest of their plans for "ambulation" I'd bet it is up on the same whiteboard as CCP's mythical infiniband upgrade.
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Doc Fury wrote:
Building carbon was always their plan, they cannot build WOD without it. As for the rest of their plans for "ambulation" I'd bet it is up on the same whiteboard as CCP's mythical infiniband upgrade.
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