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Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
523
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Posted - 2012.01.10 22:21:00 -
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Xuko Nuki wrote:Doc Fury wrote:
Building carbon was always their plan, they cannot build WOD without it. As for the rest of their plans for "ambulation" I'd bet it is up on the same whiteboard as CCP's mythical infiniband upgrade.
Youtube, ambulation.
And I will raise you a Atmospheric Flight: The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Xuko Nuki
Lacking In Diplomacy RED.OverLord
40
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Posted - 2012.01.10 22:25:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1218
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Posted - 2012.01.10 22:29:00 -
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Nice survey...hope it's legit. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
67
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Posted - 2012.01.10 22:29:00 -
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First we'll have Dust on the Ps3 if we care to buy a ps3 and really want an avatar related portion of EVE.
I think many do. I think it might be interesting. I figure that the cost of the PS3 would be far cheaper than the computer upgrades needed to run such highly rendered avatars in action would be so incredibly cutting edge that a $300 ps3 purchase would be far cheaper than trying to stay at a bleeding edge with your PC to even hope to have it work.
I imagine there might be some question if the consoles can handle the rendering too but that's beyond my field of knowledge
I see the Dust as a very active and agressive move forward to "walking in stations".
After Dust is up and running, extending the platforms that dust can run on to other consoles and to the PC in some lighter form will logically follow. It seems quite logical to me to get the EVE avatar enviornemnt working one place first and the place they believe they can most readily achieve it and progress from there.
They are going full speed ahead... thre is a plan... they do want to get there.. .. if that's what you want most , walking in stations.. you show feel good about the resources commited to it. |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
The I and F Taxation Trust
319
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Posted - 2012.01.10 22:37:00 -
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By the way...
At the old forums, when i talked about the bright and promising feature that Incarna could be (that was pre-incursion), some bittervets said to me: "you will be disappointed, CCP has NEVER fulfilled any promise they made in a fanfest".
To you people, i just reminded it and I can tell you: you were right. FML... EVE residents: 5% Wormholes; 8% Lowsec; 20% Nullsec; 67% Highsec. CSM 6: 100% non-Highsec residents.
EVE demographics vs CSM demographics, nothing to worry about...-á |
Flamespar
Woof Club
300
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Posted - 2012.01.10 22:41:00 -
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It's interesting how that survey doesn't actually have a section talking about the additions to Incarna. So except for the comments section, there is nowhere else to express your desire (or non-desire) for future updates to Incarna. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
The I and F Taxation Trust
319
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Posted - 2012.01.10 22:50:00 -
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Diomedes Calypso wrote:First we'll have Dust on the Ps3 if we care to buy a ps3 and really want an avatar related portion of EVE.
I think many do. I think it might be interesting. I figure that the cost of the PS3 would be far cheaper than the computer upgrades needed to run such highly rendered avatars in action would be so incredibly cutting edge that a $300 ps3 purchase would be far cheaper than trying to stay at a bleeding edge with your PC to even hope to have it work.
I imagine there might be some question if the consoles can handle the rendering too but that's beyond my field of knowledge
I see the Dust as a very active and agressive move forward to "walking in stations".
After Dust is up and running, extending the platforms that dust can run on to other consoles and to the PC in some lighter form will logically follow. It seems quite logical to me to get the EVE avatar enviornemnt working one place first and the place they believe they can most readily achieve it and progress from there.
They are going full speed ahead... thre is a plan... they do want to get there.. .. if that's what you want most , walking in stations.. you show feel good about the resources commited to it.
Huh... no. DUST uses Unreal Engine 3.0. This is why it's been developed by a small bunch of Chinese developers in Shanghai, as it doesn't requires the kind of cutting edge development inherent to EVE.
If CCP wanted to use UE 3.0 for EVE, then we would be walking in stations now, provided the sheer manpower of Reykjavik office compared to Shanghai's. Actually Shangai is the smaller division of CCP (Atlanta was quite larger).
So far, CCP has got a cutting edge engine that can perfectly render one high quality avatar in a room... and everybody doubts seriously that it can do the same with more than a few avatars at once. Curently CCP's Carbon engine is a Ferrari with a fuel tank of half a liter.... it goes VROOM, but then it runs dry right before leaving the garage. EVE residents: 5% Wormholes; 8% Lowsec; 20% Nullsec; 67% Highsec. CSM 6: 100% non-Highsec residents.
EVE demographics vs CSM demographics, nothing to worry about...-á |
Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
67
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Posted - 2012.01.10 22:55:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Diomedes Calypso wrote:First we'll have Dust on the Ps3 if we care to buy a ps3 and really want an avatar related portion of EVE.
I .................
.............the platforms that dust can run on to other consoles and to the PC in some lighter form will logically follow. It seems quite logical to me to get the EVE avatar enviornemnt working one place first and the place they believe they can most readily achieve it and progress from there.
They are going full speed ahead... thre is a plan... they do want to get there.. .. if that's what you want most , walking in stations.. you show feel good about the resources commited to it. Huh... no. DUST uses Unreal Engine 3.0. This is why it's been developed by a small bunch of Chinese developers in Shanghai, as it doesn't requires the kind of cutting edge development inherent to EVE. If CCP wanted to use UE 3.0 for EVE, then we would be walking in stations now, provided the sheer manpower of Reykjavik office compared to Shanghai's. Actually Shangai is the smaller division of CCP (Atlanta was quite larger). So far, CCP has got a cutting edge engine that can perfectly render one high quality avatar in a room... and everybody doubts seriously that it can do the same with more than a few avatars at once. Curently CCP's Carbon engine is a Ferrari with a fuel tank of half a liter.... it goes VROOM, but then it runs dry right before leaving the garage.
Thanks for setting that straight.... although with or without carbon it makes sense to me to develope something using the UE framework you mention at one place at a time.
Without some shoot em up content, it doesn't make much sense to walk in stations. At least in my opinion it doesn't. |
Ai Shun
349
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Posted - 2012.01.10 23:13:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Nice survey...hope it's legit.
It is legit. It has been advertised through the news letter, discussed on the forums, etc. Keep up with CCP comms and you'll be better informed in general. |
Flamespar
Woof Club
300
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Posted - 2012.01.10 23:23:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:[ Huh... no. DUST uses Unreal Engine 3.0. This is why it's been developed by a small bunch of Chinese developers in Shanghai, as it doesn't requires the kind of cutting edge development inherent to EVE.
I wonder if some of the art assets being developed for Dust (well at least those used in building interiors), might end up being resused in some modified form in Incarna. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
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Hikaru Kuroda
Shimai of New Eden
39
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Posted - 2012.01.10 23:53:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Nice survey...hope it's legit.
It's legit.
In fact, it's included with the December newsletter.
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Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2012.01.11 01:18:00 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:Taiwanistan wrote:Asuka Solo wrote:Taiwanistan wrote:you seem dead set on wis as the only avenue of "new stuff" and everything fis as "polish", and i disagree with that That's because your an idiot. Don't like it? Tough. Can I haz your stuff? lol go google up some more tired memes you worthless pedo runt Right back at ya. christ are you still trying? biomass yo, get another forum alt, we all know youse a pedo One thing is for sure, you and I are not friends, buddies or pals so don't /emote me with DMC. That's DeMichael Crimson to you. |
Flamespar
Woof Club
300
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Posted - 2012.01.11 02:51:00 -
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Taiwanistan wrote:Asuka Solo wrote:Taiwanistan wrote:Asuka Solo wrote:Taiwanistan wrote:you seem dead set on wis as the only avenue of "new stuff" and everything fis as "polish", and i disagree with that That's because your an idiot. Don't like it? Tough. Can I haz your stuff? lol go google up some more tired memes you worthless pedo runt Right back at ya. christ are you still trying? biomass yo, get another forum alt, we all know youse a pedo
Again, another personal attack, this time calling another player a pedophile.
Just leave Taiwanistan I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1218
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Posted - 2012.01.11 03:31:00 -
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I re-enforced "OPEN THE DOOR!" in the comments of the survey I took...if you support this thread do the same. Of course leave any other constructive comments as well. This should be a great help to CCP to understand what we want as players. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
Peter Raptor
The Scope Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2012.01.11 04:49:00 -
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If CCP is gonna have pole dancers for the sole reason of feeding weird pixel-prevert-players fetishes , then
Abandon Pervo WiS ! |
Soulpirate
State War Academy Caldari State
113
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Posted - 2012.01.11 05:59:00 -
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These forums have gone to ****.
I can't believe the crap that is being permited.
CCP has lost all control of it's game and it's forums. |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1276
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Posted - 2012.01.11 06:07:00 -
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Soulpirate wrote:These forums have gone to ****.
I can't believe the crap that is being permited.
CCP has lost all control of it's game and it's forums.
If you think these forums are bad, go check out Wildly Inappropriate's forums.
Taiwanastan might be able to tell you if they still make their daily porno topics.
I wouldn't be surprised if goonswarm have those either...
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1257
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Posted - 2012.01.11 11:38:00 -
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Hikaru Kuroda wrote:Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Nice survey...hope it's legit. It's legit. In fact, it's included with the December newsletter.
I wouldn't put much faith in that survey due to the fact that it isn't linked to active accounts. That means it can be easily exploited and manipulated allowing a player to complete it multiple times.
If CCP was serious, the survey would load up right after the log in page and could only be completed once per paid account. After it was completed, then the character selection page would load allowing access to the game.
It's a good idea for CCP to do survey's but they need to be implemented in a much more secure way to insure more accurate results. |
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CCP Guard
C C P C C P Alliance
1957
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Posted - 2012.01.11 11:44:00 -
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Jill Xelitras wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:Reading the CCP CEO interview I was taken by this comment.
"but the voice of the community is quite clear. People want more spaceships, and more flying in space features. That's very much what we are responding to. " Issler No Hilmar, we don't want more spaceships. We want you to fix the current ones ! You may even want to release the promised ones. And then we want you to walk over to your marketing department and tell them to stop telling everybody that "walking in stations" has been finally released until it really is ready to be released on TQ. I saw Torfi walking a character through a bar and playing a cool game ... Now go and make that happen ! That's when you should start marketing WIS. Also, I'm very surprised (although I shouldn't be) that it took you until NOW to figure out that PI could be used to make low-sec interesting ... really CCP ? After all those years ? I wonder why I keep paying.
"More spaceships" in this context means more focus on the spaceship part of the game, the core gameplay. So it's not to be taken 100% literally :). There have been a lot of fixes and tweaks lately and there are more coming. CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer |
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Xuko Nuki
Lacking In Diplomacy RED.OverLord
40
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Posted - 2012.01.11 11:47:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:
"More spaceships" in this context means more focus on the spaceship part of the game, the core gameplay. So it's not to be taken 100% literally :). There have been a lot of fixes and tweaks lately and there are more coming.
After 120 pages asking for clarification on the future of WiS you respond with that? |
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Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
215
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Posted - 2012.01.11 12:02:00 -
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lol maybe CCP Guard has been given the thankless task of going through all the posts in this thread Either way it's good to know they are paying attention, but on the other hand it doesn't look very promising as this shows that they are actively choosing to ignore us. |
Crucis Cassiopeiae
EvE-COM
895
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Posted - 2012.01.11 12:05:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:Jill Xelitras wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:Reading the CCP CEO interview I was taken by this comment.
"but the voice of the community is quite clear. People want more spaceships, and more flying in space features. That's very much what we are responding to. " Issler No Hilmar, we don't want more spaceships. We want you to fix the current ones ! You may even want to release the promised ones. And then we want you to walk over to your marketing department and tell them to stop telling everybody that "walking in stations" has been finally released until it really is ready to be released on TQ. I saw Torfi walking a character through a bar and playing a cool game ... Now go and make that happen ! That's when you should start marketing WIS. Also, I'm very surprised (although I shouldn't be) that it took you until NOW to figure out that PI could be used to make low-sec interesting ... really CCP ? After all those years ? I wonder why I keep paying. "More spaceships" in this context means more focus on the spaceship part of the game, the core gameplay. So it's not to be taken 100% literally :). There have been a lot of fixes and tweaks lately and there are more coming.
Sometimes, when i read responses like this from CCP staff, i ask myself... why do i give my money to CCP? |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
215
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Posted - 2012.01.11 12:13:00 -
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Crucis Cassiopeiae wrote: Sometimes, when i read responses like this from CCP staff, i ask myself... why do i give my money CCP?
As soon as WiS was canceled, i set myself the task of earning enough isk through passive incomes to pay for my subscription... I was surprised how easy it was
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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1372
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Posted - 2012.01.11 13:35:00 -
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Soulpirate wrote:These forums have gone to ****.
I can't believe the crap that is being permited.
CCP has lost all control of it's game and it's forums.
Obviously.. Because the game is created and ruled by players... And if they try to take it over it will mean RAGE against the CCP. |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
The I and F Taxation Trust
320
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Posted - 2012.01.11 14:05:00 -
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Methink I saw a blue tag?
(checks checks)
Phew, near miss... that post *almost* was on topic! But our beingignoredess record still lives!
(That was me being sarcastic. I would love, and think that it would be great, if someone eventually answered on topic. I'm sure they can if they try to) EVE residents: 5% Wormholes; 8% Lowsec; 20% Nullsec; 67% Highsec. CSM 6: 100% non-Highsec residents.
EVE demographics vs CSM demographics, nothing to worry about...-á |
Grateler
The People's Liberation Front of Offugen
12
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Posted - 2012.01.11 14:11:00 -
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In all the time since WiS was announced I have yet to see anyone say exactly what there would be to do that would add anything to the game.
Normally I get mumbles about smuggling, gambling etc, which are minigames at best and so far Ive heard nothing suggested that warranted all of the work involved in getting it workng.
When someone tells me of something interesting that it will do, other than an Eve Ironforge where you /dance I may change my mind, but at the moment see no purpose in it. |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
215
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Posted - 2012.01.11 14:27:00 -
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Grateler wrote:In all the time since WiS was announced I have yet to see anyone say exactly what there would be to do that would add anything to the game.
Normally I get mumbles about smuggling, gambling etc, which are minigames at best and so far Ive heard nothing suggested that warranted all of the work involved in getting it workng.
When someone tells me of something interesting that it will do, other than an Eve Ironforge where you /dance I may change my mind, but at the moment see no purpose in it.
I think you are confusing players with developers. It is not our job to design the game we play, just complain about it if things don't turn out the way we want.
I could list a bunch of things we could potentially do in WIS but what good would that do?
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
The I and F Taxation Trust
320
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Posted - 2012.01.11 14:29:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:Grateler wrote:In all the time since WiS was announced I have yet to see anyone say exactly what there would be to do that would add anything to the game.
Normally I get mumbles about smuggling, gambling etc, which are minigames at best and so far Ive heard nothing suggested that warranted all of the work involved in getting it workng.
When someone tells me of something interesting that it will do, other than an Eve Ironforge where you /dance I may change my mind, but at the moment see no purpose in it. I think you are confusing players with developers. It is not our job to design the game we play, just complain about it if things don't turn out the way we want. I could list a bunch of things we could potentially do in WIS but what good would that do?
Not to mention that some of us have been scattering suggestions all over this thread & other ones. EVE residents: 5% Wormholes; 8% Lowsec; 20% Nullsec; 67% Highsec. CSM 6: 100% non-Highsec residents.
EVE demographics vs CSM demographics, nothing to worry about...-á |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1257
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Posted - 2012.01.11 14:30:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:Grateler wrote:In all the time since WiS was announced I have yet to see anyone say exactly what there would be to do that would add anything to the game.
Normally I get mumbles about smuggling, gambling etc, which are minigames at best and so far Ive heard nothing suggested that warranted all of the work involved in getting it workng.
When someone tells me of something interesting that it will do, other than an Eve Ironforge where you /dance I may change my mind, but at the moment see no purpose in it. I think you are confusing players with developers. It is not our job to design the game we play, just complain about it if things don't turn out the way we want. I could list a bunch of things we could potentially do in WIS but what good would that do?
Hopefully you do more than just complain, like also give positive recognition for good work.
Referring to the Ambulation video, that was just the first of many steps. WiS could bloom into full fledged game play content over time if given half a chance.
There's been a lot of good ideas for potential new game play content pertaining to WiS posted in this thread. Nothing wrong with that. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
1218
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Posted - 2012.01.11 15:00:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:Jill Xelitras wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:Reading the CCP CEO interview I was taken by this comment.
"but the voice of the community is quite clear. People want more spaceships, and more flying in space features. That's very much what we are responding to. " Issler No Hilmar, we don't want more spaceships. We want you to fix the current ones ! You may even want to release the promised ones. And then we want you to walk over to your marketing department and tell them to stop telling everybody that "walking in stations" has been finally released until it really is ready to be released on TQ. I saw Torfi walking a character through a bar and playing a cool game ... Now go and make that happen ! That's when you should start marketing WIS. Also, I'm very surprised (although I shouldn't be) that it took you until NOW to figure out that PI could be used to make low-sec interesting ... really CCP ? After all those years ? I wonder why I keep paying. "More spaceships" in this context means more focus on the spaceship part of the game, the core gameplay. So it's not to be taken 100% literally :). There have been a lot of fixes and tweaks lately and there are more coming. C'mon man...if you don't have any information that you are able to or allowed to divulge to us on the core issue of this thread then say so. At least a "I am sorry but I have no more information on the future of WiS at this time." is all it would take to keep people from getting annoyed with a reply that really only applies to one comment in a thread over 120 pages long that doesn't even really relate to the topic at hand.
It is nice to know there are more bug fixes and tweaks coming though. I like hearing that info too. You are one of the better devs that actually respond on the forums Guard. Keep up the good work...but please...get us more info on the future plans of WiS if possible. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!! |
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