Don't let the door hit you on the arse on your way out.

That's exactly the problem, there is a specific forum area for doing that, and for some reason you and others incorrectly think EVE GD is the correct place. Scattering suggestions all over the place isn't helping you or CCP. If you or anyone else wants things to remain on topic for making WIS feature suggestions, try keeping it all in one thread in the correct forum area. By posting the same stuff here in GD over and over, you are just begging to get trolled over and over.

This thread is full of players including the OP switching from demanding answers to calling it a feature discussion. As was already admitted, there are pages and pages of feature suggestions, "sprinkled" throughout.

Try to justify this abomination of a troll-bait thread however you wish, it won't change anything other than the level of amusement you are providing others at your own expense and dignity (assuming you have any).

There is actually no new information to be had at this time for the reason that we haven't decided the next steps for WiS yet. The summer expansion will be war themed as has been stated by our new Senior Producer, and will continue to enhance EVE core gameplay. What happens then is not certain at this point but we'll be sure to let you guys in on it as soon as we can (when we know).

The tech for 3d character environments is there for the most part and we haven't decided to drop any future plans for it or anything like that. There's plenty of ideas floating around and lots of possibilities.

So nothing has changed from the early stages of this thread really. Sorry to not have more juicy details at this time.

irrelevant stuff.

This thread was never really about showing support it was about demanding immediate answers from CCP.. The thread title was even changed by the OP recently when it was pointed out repeatedly that CCP already answered the question. The minute this thread was posted in GD, it was fair game for everybody.

Had you read any of my earlier posts you would know I am not anti-WIS but I am definitely against pro-WIS players whining repeatedly for answers when they have already been provided. If anything, I have tried to get you to post in the appropriate forum areas where you would not get trolled.

Sometimes someone has to be the messenger when common sense is being clouded by hysteria.

CCP promises a lot of stuff. Sometimes they make good on their promises, sometimes they don't because they often try to do things that are not possible within a time-frame that meets general player expectations. If you have been playing for more than a couple of years, you probably already knew this.

To add a little to what I wrote yesterday.

I spoke with some people today and have some more clarity on this (althought not a ton more). It's likely that there will continue to be "some work" done on this front in the short term, while we iron out the long term plans. There are some assets nearly finished anyway and they will probably make their way on TQ in the months to come, things of the visual nature (WiSual? Lol?), decorative things that can be finalized with relatively light effort while we put most of our weight on the other foot. But I think we might still be able to put out some stuff that you guys will enjoy.

The vision for 3d characters as part of the complete sci fi simulator isn-&t dead, it's just going to be done differently than the way we were doing it before last summer happened, and it's probably going to take some time to materialize fully (no, I don't know how much time, sorry)

Sorry for being vague. I'm trying to tell you something, mostly that WiS is not completely on ice and forgotten, without making you think I'm promising any particular things that you might be thinking of, that might not be coming. Not in the short term at least.

If I had to write a tl;dr for this, it would probably be...nope, you know what...I'll let you guys write the tl;dr for me

To add a little to what I wrote yesterday.

I spoke with some people today and have some more clarity on this (althought not a ton more). It's likely that there will continue to be "some work" done on this front in the short term, while we iron out the long term plans. There are some assets nearly finished anyway and they will probably make their way on TQ in the months to come, things of the visual nature (WiSual? Lol?), decorative things that can be finalized with relatively light effort while we put most of our weight on the other foot. But I think we might still be able to put out some stuff that you guys will enjoy.

The vision for 3d characters as part of the complete sci fi simulator isn-&t dead, it's just going to be done differently than the way we were doing it before last summer happened, and it's probably going to take some time to materialize fully (no, I don't know how much time, sorry)

Sorry for being vague. I'm trying to tell you something, mostly that WiS is not completely on ice and forgotten, without making you think I'm promising any particular things that you might be thinking of, that might not be coming. Not in the short term at least.

If I had to write a tl;dr for this, it would probably be...nope, you know what...I'll let you guys write the tl;dr for me

To add a little to what I wrote yesterday.

I spoke with some people today and have some more clarity on this (althought not a ton more). It's likely that there will continue to be "some work" done on this front in the short term, while we iron out the long term plans. There are some assets nearly finished anyway and they will probably make their way on TQ in the months to come, things of the visual nature (WiSual? Lol?), decorative things that can be finalized with relatively light effort while we put most of our weight on the other foot. But I think we might still be able to put out some stuff that you guys will enjoy.

The vision for 3d characters as part of the complete sci fi simulator isn-&t dead, it's just going to be done differently than the way we were doing it before last summer happened, and it's probably going to take some time to materialize fully (no, I don't know how much time, sorry)

Sorry for being vague. I'm trying to tell you something, mostly that WiS is not completely on ice and forgotten, without making you think I'm promising any particular things that you might be thinking of, that might not be coming. Not in the short term at least.

If I had to write a tl;dr for this, it would probably be...nope, you know what...I'll let you guys write the tl;dr for me

So if we had posted in those forums ,we had a reply from CCP within 1 day,1 week ,1 month or never?

So tell me what is allowed to be discussed in general discussion according to somebody who thinks ,he has common sense

That's completely up to CCP and you know it. It also depends on what you are posting. Honey catches more flies then vinegar obviously. Crying and stamping your feet and making threats as a mob would discourage anyone in authority from trying to make appeasement. This applies to both sides of this issue.

When you want to suggest features with the intention of CCP seeing and possibly acting on them, that's exactly why they setup a Feature and Ideas forum area so they don't have to try to pick though posts sprinkled through various threads. When you want to complain about being ignored by CCP or similar, and you don't want to get trolled/flamed and etc, it's best if you take that to the CSM in the forum specifically setup for that purpose. While you might think the CSM is pointless or that they have a differing agenda than you, if you don't use the avenues CCP provides for player feedback and representation, you are just derailing the process and leaving everything up to the CSM without them hearing and/or addressing your feedback.

To add a little to what I wrote yesterday.

I spoke with some people today and have some more clarity on this (althought not a ton more). It's likely that there will continue to be "some work" done on this front in the short term, while we iron out the long term plans. There are some assets nearly finished anyway and they will probably make their way on TQ in the months to come, things of the visual nature (WiSual? Lol?), decorative things that can be finalized with relatively light effort while we put most of our weight on the other foot. But I think we might still be able to put out some stuff that you guys will enjoy.

The vision for 3d characters as part of the complete sci fi simulator isn-&t dead, it's just going to be done differently than the way we were doing it before last summer happened, and it's probably going to take some time to materialize fully (no, I don't know how much time, sorry)

Sorry for being vague. I'm trying to tell you something, mostly that WiS is not completely on ice and forgotten, without making you think I'm promising any particular things that you might be thinking of, that might not be coming. Not in the short term at least.

If I had to write a tl;dr for this, it would probably be...nope, you know what...I'll let you guys write the tl;dr for me

To add a little to what I wrote yesterday.

I spoke with some people today and have some more clarity on this (althought not a ton more). It's likely that there will continue to be "some work" done on this front in the short term, while we iron out the long term plans. There are some assets nearly finished anyway and they will probably make their way on TQ in the months to come, things of the visual nature (WiSual? Lol?), decorative things that can be finalized with relatively light effort while we put most of our weight on the other foot. But I think we might still be able to put out some stuff that you guys will enjoy.

The vision for 3d characters as part of the complete sci fi simulator isn-&t dead, it's just going to be done differently than the way we were doing it before last summer happened, and it's probably going to take some time to materialize fully (no, I don't know how much time, sorry)

Sorry for being vague. I'm trying to tell you something, mostly that WiS is not completely on ice and forgotten, without making you think I'm promising any particular things that you might be thinking of, that might not be coming. Not in the short term at least.

If I had to write a tl;dr for this, it would probably be...nope, you know what...I'll let you guys write the tl;dr for me

To add a little to what I wrote yesterday.

I spoke with some people today and have some more clarity on this (althought not a ton more). It's likely that there will continue to be "some work" done on this front in the short term, while we iron out the long term plans. There are some assets nearly finished anyway and they will probably make their way on TQ in the months to come, things of the visual nature (WiSual? Lol?), decorative things that can be finalized with relatively light effort while we put most of our weight on the other foot. But I think we might still be able to put out some stuff that you guys will enjoy.

The vision for 3d characters as part of the complete sci fi simulator isn-&t dead, it's just going to be done differently than the way we were doing it before last summer happened, and it's probably going to take some time to materialize fully (no, I don't know how much time, sorry)

Sorry for being vague. I'm trying to tell you something, mostly that WiS is not completely on ice and forgotten, without making you think I'm promising any particular things that you might be thinking of, that might not be coming. Not in the short term at least.

If I had to write a tl;dr for this, it would probably be...nope, you know what...I'll let you guys write the tl;dr for me

To add a little to what I wrote yesterday.

I spoke with some people today and have some more clarity on this (althought not a ton more). It's likely that there will continue to be "some work" done on this front in the short term, while we iron out the long term plans. There are some assets nearly finished anyway and they will probably make their way on TQ in the months to come, things of the visual nature (WiSual? Lol?), decorative things that can be finalized with relatively light effort while we put most of our weight on the other foot. But I think we might still be able to put out some stuff that you guys will enjoy.

The vision for 3d characters as part of the complete sci fi simulator isn-&t dead, it's just going to be done differently than the way we were doing it before last summer happened, and it's probably going to take some time to materialize fully (no, I don't know how much time, sorry)

Sorry for being vague. I'm trying to tell you something, mostly that WiS is not completely on ice and forgotten, without making you think I'm promising any particular things that you might be thinking of, that might not be coming. Not in the short term at least.

If I had to write a tl;dr for this, it would probably be...nope, you know what...I'll let you guys write the tl;dr for me

To add a little to what I wrote yesterday.

I spoke with some people today and have some more clarity on this (althought not a ton more). It's likely that there will continue to be "some work" done on this front in the short term, while we iron out the long term plans. There are some assets nearly finished anyway and they will probably make their way on TQ in the months to come, things of the visual nature (WiSual? Lol?), decorative things that can be finalized with relatively light effort while we put most of our weight on the other foot. But I think we might still be able to put out some stuff that you guys will enjoy.

The vision for 3d characters as part of the complete sci fi simulator isn-&t dead, it's just going to be done differently than the way we were doing it before last summer happened, and it's probably going to take some time to materialize fully (no, I don't know how much time, sorry)

Sorry for being vague. I'm trying to tell you something, mostly that WiS is not completely on ice and forgotten, without making you think I'm promising any particular things that you might be thinking of, that might not be coming. Not in the short term at least.

If I had to write a tl;dr for this, it would probably be...nope, you know what...I'll let you guys write the tl;dr for me

That is all we wanted to hear from the get go.

I fail to see how this is really that much different to what CCP Guard said before. Or from what Hilmar said before! It's gone from "On ice for a bit" to "We don't have a concrete timeline" to "We may release something that is almost finished, but we don't have a concrete timeline".

****, but you people have problems if something that has been said before placates you like that.

Just roll over and have his children already.

Obviously you haven't been keeping track of things that well then.

I've been following the direct dev / CCP communications. They are of more interest than a 125 page circle-jerk of dissatisfied, semi-emo capsuleers.

And yet here you are. 'Jerking' it with the rest of us.

Keep trying.

Your trolling skills are about as poor as your reading skills. Still. I'll give you a -1/10 for effort, how's that?

Alternatively, you could post a video of you spinning your ship in a blind rage. Or a video of you spinning in your chair, in real life, yelling loudly about how much fun you're having.

Lol. Fair enough, you win.

No, no. You win. Really.

Edit:
Honestly, my earlier reply was just amazement at how quickly some of the vehement supporters backed off when CCP made a statement that was very similar to their previous communications. What happened to the fortitude of pushing through for a change that is wanted? Getting firm dates and details? Those sorts of things.

To add a little to what I wrote yesterday.

I spoke with some people today and have some more clarity on this (althought not a ton more). It's likely that there will continue to be "some work" done on this front in the short term, while we iron out the long term plans. There are some assets nearly finished anyway and they will probably make their way on TQ in the months to come, things of the visual nature (WiSual? Lol?), decorative things that can be finalized with relatively light effort while we put most of our weight on the other foot. But I think we might still be able to put out some stuff that you guys will enjoy.

The vision for 3d characters as part of the complete sci fi simulator isn-&t dead, it's just going to be done differently than the way we were doing it before last summer happened, and it's probably going to take some time to materialize fully (no, I don't know how much time, sorry)

Sorry for being vague. I'm trying to tell you something, mostly that WiS is not completely on ice and forgotten, without making you think I'm promising any particular things that you might be thinking of, that might not be coming. Not in the short term at least.

If I had to write a tl;dr for this, it would probably be...nope, you know what...I'll let you guys write the tl;dr for me