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Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
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Posted - 2011.10.24 21:12:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote:I don't see the problem.
How many other MMO's allow you to "level up" while *not* playing the game? That argument doesn't really hold water, since you can't actually progress your character based off of how much you play.
I still don't see the problem. :) Skill training as described in other previous posts was a pain in the neck, rear, butt and toe. So the pain got fixed.
Ever since it got fixed people, some of them, wanted more because of various reasons, like I'm on a holiday for 4 weeks! OMG! I cannot change ma skills!!!! So what? Its a game. The current queue is more then long enough. It doesn't break your game play, it forces you to nothing but thoughtful skill planning. So you lose a couple of hours , maybe a few days even.
So what? It is a game. Serious business I agree but still a game.
If there is one timer that should be changed then it should be the time between clone jumps. Even getting it cut down to 23 hours would have significant impact on a lot of peoples gameplay.
But well that is my pov. :3
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Barakkus
952
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Posted - 2011.10.24 21:16:00 -
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Kengutsi Akira wrote:Well there is the point to be made that they get your money wether you log in or not, what do they care?
Because you can't blow up that which does not log in.
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Ione Dee
Lucror Commerce Investment Corporation
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Posted - 2011.10.24 21:27:00 -
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I don't mind the 24 hour window. I just just wish we could queue skill book injection. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD Tragedy.
114
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Posted - 2011.10.24 21:32:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:It would be nice to load up every skill I have and never have to worry about logging in ever again. Ofc my sub runs out in Dec so it really doesn't matter now. Though its sad the last skill Ill be training is Caldari BS V
Yer stuffz...I can haz? =D Support our boobies!-áLINKY! |
Barakkus
952
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Posted - 2011.10.24 21:36:00 -
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Ione Dee wrote:I don't mind the 24 hour window. I just just wish we could queue skill book injection.
They mentioned something like that last year or the year before I think, nothing ever came of it. |
Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
160
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Posted - 2011.10.24 21:40:00 -
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I don't really see the great added value of logging in for 30 seconds a few times a month over not logging in at all. |
Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
125
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Posted - 2011.10.24 21:46:00 -
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Two reasons: 1) They want you to actually log in and actually play the game 2) They don't want people to take a character, queue up 6 months of skill training, and then go sell the character once it is ready to "come out of the oven". |
Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
161
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Posted - 2011.10.24 21:50:00 -
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Taedrin wrote:Two reasons: 1) They want you to actually log in and actually play the game 2) They don't want people to take a character, queue up 6 months of skill training, and then go sell the character once it is ready to "come out of the oven". 1) logging in and change skills isn't playing the game, either. 2) you can still log in and just change skills and sell it 6 months later. |
Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
125
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:25:00 -
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Jennifer Starling wrote:Taedrin wrote:Two reasons: 1) They want you to actually log in and actually play the game 2) They don't want people to take a character, queue up 6 months of skill training, and then go sell the character once it is ready to "come out of the oven". 1) logging in and change skills isn't playing the game, either. 2) you can still log in and just change skills and sell it 6 months later.
Yes, but the thing is, many times people log in only to change their skills, and then get distracted by something which convinces them to play the game.
Perhaps their corp is running a mining op Perhaps their alliance has a CTA to defend a home system Perhaps they see that their POS needs fuel Perhaps they see that their POS is reinforced Perhaps they see that a big market order was fulfilled and they have billions of extra ISK burning in their wallets
etc... etc...
Also, yes people can "just log in and change skills and sell it 6 months later", but this is a LOT more annoying and time consuming than spending 10 minutes to sign up for a new account creating a character and then loading a predefined EVEmon skill plan into the skill queue and then never touching the character again.
Think about it - if the only investment into a character that someone needed to make was 10 minutes, then what is stopping illegitimate users from signing up for hundreds, if not thousands of accounts for the sole purpose of harvesting characters? No, that would be a nightmare for the rest of the playerbase, so I prefer to be forced to log in, thank you very much.
Furthermore, if this WERE put into place, then people would start complaining about how they can't play the game for 3 months because their character isn't "done" yet. CCP would have to change starting sps AGAIN so that every character starts with at least a basic set of skills which players deem mandatory.
And then we would have even MORE alt cycling suicide gankers/scammers/spies/etc...
I literally see nothing more than marginal benefits to an unlimited skill queue, and so many potential disasters. |
Tashanaka
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
0
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:26:00 -
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Tippia wrote: Ok, story-time! Gather 'round the campfire, kids! ....
Nice story, but you forgot to mention the that skill queue was also to soften the removal of Ghost Training. |
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Paragon Renegade
The Multinational Company.
40
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:31:00 -
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Taedrin wrote: I literally see nothing more than marginal benefits to an unlimited skill queue, and so many potential disasters.
So, you're against streamlining because it gives marginal boosts to alt farming, which is done anyway in copious amounts? It's not even against the rules.
"Man, you aren't actually trying to do this, right? Nobody is that stupid right?"
"How wrong you are" |
Valari Nala Zena
Perkone Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:34:00 -
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Imo, should add a queue up until your payed subscription ends. |
Russell Casey
One Ton
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Posted - 2011.10.24 22:54:00 -
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They want people logging on their alts so they can claim the population is bigger than it actually is. |
Jonni Favorite
Sundown Logistics SpaceMonkey's Alliance
28
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Posted - 2011.10.24 23:09:00 -
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Barakkus wrote:Ione Dee wrote:I don't mind the 24 hour window. I just just wish we could queue skill book injection. They mentioned something like that last year or the year before I think, nothing ever came of it.
Yeah that's in their queue for right after full WIS release I think.. |
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