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BerSerKer 13
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.06 10:38:00 -
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i was wondering how much has changed in the isk per hour on level 4 mission ruining on on toon in high sec 2-3 years ago i was making around 8-15m per hour depending on mission is there a chart out there now or could someone give me a good estimet i have hard that it has gained quite a bit |
Tsukino Stareine
The Red Circle Inc.
459
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Posted - 2013.07.06 11:27:00 -
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8-15m per hour is pretty low...I think I could probably make more doing level 3s.
If anything missioning is less profitable than it was before odyssey since salvage now comes from exploration and rumours have been that salvage from mission wrecks were reduced.
In spite of all that if you're doing it right you can do 50m+ per hour quite casually and the pro mission runners can do 80m+ on a good day. Remember most of the money comes from the LP rewards. |
sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
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Posted - 2013.07.06 13:09:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:8-15m per hour is pretty low...I think I could probably make more doing level 3s.
If anything missioning is less profitable than it was before odyssey since salvage now comes from exploration and rumours have been that salvage from mission wrecks were reduced.
In spite of all that if you're doing it right you can do 50m+ per hour quite casually and the pro mission runners can do 80m+ on a good day. Remember most of the money comes from the LP rewards.
Nothing about missioning has been buffed in the past 3 years, but there's been plenty of nerfs. Loot table nerf seriously eat into loot value, salvage prices dropped hugely, LP value is outside of FW is worthless, and drone aggro increases mission times and drone replacement costs.
If he only managed to shoot 8 rats a hour 3 years ago, it will be 7 today, and will worth less. Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454 |
Xequecal
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.06 18:31:00 -
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sabre906 wrote:Tsukino Stareine wrote:8-15m per hour is pretty low...I think I could probably make more doing level 3s.
If anything missioning is less profitable than it was before odyssey since salvage now comes from exploration and rumours have been that salvage from mission wrecks were reduced.
In spite of all that if you're doing it right you can do 50m+ per hour quite casually and the pro mission runners can do 80m+ on a good day. Remember most of the money comes from the LP rewards. Nothing about missioning has been buffed in the past 3 years, but there's been plenty of nerfs. Loot table nerf seriously eat into loot value, salvage prices dropped hugely, LP value is outside of FW is worthless, and drone aggro increases mission times and drone replacement costs. If he only managed to shoot 8 rats a hour 3 years ago, it will be 7 today, and will worth less.
They also put in the Tornado which means if you're running a deadspace XLSB you're going to get suicide ganked, it's only a matter of time, even if you've got only T2 gear in every other slot. |
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.06 19:45:00 -
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Xequecal wrote:sabre906 wrote:Tsukino Stareine wrote:8-15m per hour is pretty low...I think I could probably make more doing level 3s.
If anything missioning is less profitable than it was before odyssey since salvage now comes from exploration and rumours have been that salvage from mission wrecks were reduced.
In spite of all that if you're doing it right you can do 50m+ per hour quite casually and the pro mission runners can do 80m+ on a good day. Remember most of the money comes from the LP rewards. Nothing about missioning has been buffed in the past 3 years, but there's been plenty of nerfs. Loot table nerf seriously eat into loot value, salvage prices dropped hugely, LP value is outside of FW is worthless, and drone aggro increases mission times and drone replacement costs. If he only managed to shoot 8 rats a hour 3 years ago, it will be 7 today, and will worth less. They also put in the Tornado which means if you're running a deadspace XLSB you're going to get suicide ganked, it's only a matter of time, even if you've got only T2 gear in every other slot.
I don't disagree that the Tornado is a bit OP for ganking but I've ran an deadspace XLSB and faction damage mods on several ships for over two years now and no ganks... Maybe I'm just lucky? I don't go crazy with faction/deadspace guns, SBA, invulns etc though. |
marVLs
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Posted - 2013.07.06 20:06:00 -
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IIshira wrote:Xequecal wrote:sabre906 wrote:Tsukino Stareine wrote:8-15m per hour is pretty low...I think I could probably make more doing level 3s.
If anything missioning is less profitable than it was before odyssey since salvage now comes from exploration and rumours have been that salvage from mission wrecks were reduced.
In spite of all that if you're doing it right you can do 50m+ per hour quite casually and the pro mission runners can do 80m+ on a good day. Remember most of the money comes from the LP rewards. Nothing about missioning has been buffed in the past 3 years, but there's been plenty of nerfs. Loot table nerf seriously eat into loot value, salvage prices dropped hugely, LP value is outside of FW is worthless, and drone aggro increases mission times and drone replacement costs. If he only managed to shoot 8 rats a hour 3 years ago, it will be 7 today, and will worth less. They also put in the Tornado which means if you're running a deadspace XLSB you're going to get suicide ganked, it's only a matter of time, even if you've got only T2 gear in every other slot. I don't disagree that the Tornado is a bit OP for ganking but I've ran an deadspace XLSB and faction damage mods on several ships for over two years now and no ganks... Maybe I'm just lucky? I don't go crazy with faction/deadspace guns, SBA, invulns etc though.
Because it's easier and more profitable to gank freighters and pimped T3's, no need to worry too much about BS with DED rep and few faction mods.
About that income: yeah it was better some time ago, but now it's something about 60-100kk/h with good LP exchange (let's say 2.5:1) and no salvaging (not worth with good skills and ship) |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
282
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Posted - 2013.07.06 20:14:00 -
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salvage has been on a long ride down in value. first with the introduction of small/medium/large rigs, and then again with the noctis. Loot took a bit of a dive, not sure how much of it is people just aren't buying meta stuff as much, or of more of it drops now. Meta 4 loot has dropped to tech 2 price or less in many cases.
and a pith b-type x-large shield booster (132m in jita) is cheaper than a caldari navy xl (150m), doubt anyone will gank you just for that. now if you are fitting a gist xl booster your fortune may quickly change. 700m for the c-type up to 1.2b for the x-type. although with everything else t2 I doubt they would gank you for that either. since it has a 50/50 chance to drop I'd value it at 350m, and going to need 3 people (at least) to successfully gank it at a cost of around 100m per ship. Imo that isn't really worth their time, although they still might do it for lulz. and anyways prior to the tornado I could have just slapped 8x 1400s on an apoc and insured it to the point I broke even.
outside of loot/salvage stuff hasn't really changed. if anything ships and weapons have been made better (and/or people just fit them better) so killing them npcs is easier. And all agents are quality 20, so more rewards/lp from everyone! You can trust me, I have a monocole |
Goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
454
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Posted - 2013.07.06 20:25:00 -
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marVLs wrote:... and no salvaging (not worth with good skills and ship) Really strange thing about that, I expected the new Capital rigs to vacuum up all the cheap salvage on the market and create a higher demand. Especially with Goons and Test killing / losing dreads and carriers at the rate they have these last few weeks.
Things that keep me up at night;-á Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Couch Camoflage, If you sit very still maybe they wont see you. |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
703
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Posted - 2013.07.07 04:36:00 -
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I had to lol when I read this. Yes, there have been no buffs to missioning and there have been nerfs. However, the cost of minerals is way up compared to when you played. Its no problem to make 80 mil an hour on one account before LP these days, if you are looting and salvaging. Eve is Real |
James Morgan
Pod Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.07 16:21:00 -
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anywhere between 50 to 100 mil/hr depending upon missions, including looting only specific missions and LP payouts (at around 1000 isk / LP ) |
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Rexxorr
Zero Corp Tax2
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Posted - 2013.07.07 16:46:00 -
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Isk per hour ? 30-60 mill isk depending on the missions you get, how you figure your time for converting lp into isk, hauling around and selling salvage an lp faction (easy/hard sell) items.
Check out the kills around osmon, marauders are dying left and right too tornado gank squads. Most of those dying marauders are nowhere near pimp fit. Course if they turn on hardeners a few less would die... |
Smark Shardani
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.08 00:27:00 -
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I get about 150m ISK per hour with L4 missions currently. |
ExcalibursTemplar
Citadel Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.07.08 16:07:00 -
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In liquid isk from bounties and Agent rewards and bounses i can make around 50 mill an hour. Add on top of that i can get say between say 50k and 70k LP which can be cashed in at minimum for 1000isk/1LP upto 4000isk/1LP.
The 1000isk/1LP are more your instant cash out items that you get instantly from Jita where as the 4000isk/LP items are things you have to sit on for a while and move them to certain areas (not JITA). |
Hopelesshobo
Red Dwarf Mining Corporation space weaponry and trade
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Posted - 2013.07.08 16:41:00 -
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Goldiiee wrote:marVLs wrote:... and no salvaging (not worth with good skills and ship) Really strange thing about that, I expected the new Capital rigs to vacuum up all the cheap salvage on the market and create a higher demand. Especially with Goons and Test killing / losing dreads and carriers at the rate they have these last few weeks.
It will probably take time for the price to increase, you need to wait for the pre rigged capitals that are stocked up to get popped first. However, if the capital rigs are deemed by the masses as too expensive to be worthwhile, then the capitals will remain unrigged, and the prices will remain. Lowering the average to make you look better since 2012. |
Nour Aerilon
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
6
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:12:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:I had to lol when I read this. Yes, there have been no buffs to missioning and there have been nerfs. However, the cost of minerals is way up compared to when you played. Its no problem to make 80 mil an hour on one account before LP these days, if you are looting and salvaging.
U only make 80 mil from one account? I probably make 185 mil/h from one account before even doing the mission. |
Goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
456
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:13:00 -
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Nour Aerilon wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:I had to lol when I read this. Yes, there have been no buffs to missioning and there have been nerfs. However, the cost of minerals is way up compared to when you played. Its no problem to make 80 mil an hour on one account before LP these days, if you are looting and salvaging. U only make 80 mil from one account? I probably make 185 mil/h from one account before even doing the mission. LOL congrats you won EVE
Things that keep me up at night;-á Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Couch Camoflage, If you sit very still maybe they wont see you. |
Nour Aerilon
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
6
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:31:00 -
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Goldiiee wrote:Nour Aerilon wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:I had to lol when I read this. Yes, there have been no buffs to missioning and there have been nerfs. However, the cost of minerals is way up compared to when you played. Its no problem to make 80 mil an hour on one account before LP these days, if you are looting and salvaging. U only make 80 mil from one account? I probably make 185 mil/h from one account before even doing the mission. LOL congrats you won EVE Edit: I guess I should E-peen a little too, I make between 1 to 3 billion a day without logging in. It's all a matter of perspective.
185mil * 24=4,44 bil |
Goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
456
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:58:00 -
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Nour Aerilon wrote:Goldiiee wrote:Nour Aerilon wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:I had to lol when I read this. Yes, there have been no buffs to missioning and there have been nerfs. However, the cost of minerals is way up compared to when you played. Its no problem to make 80 mil an hour on one account before LP these days, if you are looting and salvaging. U only make 80 mil from one account? I probably make 185 mil/h from one account before even doing the mission. LOL congrats you won EVE Edit: I guess I should E-peen a little too, I make between 1 to 3 billion a day without logging in. It's all a matter of perspective. 185mil * 24=4,44 bil I guess you missed the point, The OP wasn't asking for how to make billions a day Marketing, Moon mining, Scamming, or whatever else there is..... he just wanted to know what to expect for Missions.
Things that keep me up at night;-á Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Couch Camoflage, If you sit very still maybe they wont see you. |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
704
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:24:00 -
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Nour Aerilon wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:I had to lol when I read this. Yes, there have been no buffs to missioning and there have been nerfs. However, the cost of minerals is way up compared to when you played. Its no problem to make 80 mil an hour on one account before LP these days, if you are looting and salvaging. U only make 80 mil from one account? I probably make 185 mil/h from one account before even doing the mission.
No, I make 80 million cash an hour missioning on one account. Learn how to fuckin read before trying to be smug. Eve is Real |
Kahlell
Galactic Ventures LLC
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:37:00 -
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I suspect the OP meant per mission rather than per hour. If that's the case then yeah, it hasn't really changed much. Per hour statistics are so misleading because there are so many factors that come into play: ship, ammo, skills, types of missions, standings, security status etc. |
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Tsukino Stareine
The Red Circle Inc.
461
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:45:00 -
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Kahlell wrote:I suspect the OP meant per mission rather than per hour. If that's the case then yeah, it hasn't really changed much. Per hour statistics are so misleading because there are so many factors that come into play: ship, ammo, skills, types of missions, standings, security status etc.
BerSerKer 13 wrote:i was wondering how much has changed in the isk per hour on level 4 mission ruining
no im pretty sure he didnt mean isk per mission. |
Nour Aerilon
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
6
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Posted - 2013.07.08 18:57:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:Nour Aerilon wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:I had to lol when I read this. Yes, there have been no buffs to missioning and there have been nerfs. However, the cost of minerals is way up compared to when you played. Its no problem to make 80 mil an hour on one account before LP these days, if you are looting and salvaging. U only make 80 mil from one account? I probably make 185 mil/h from one account before even doing the mission. No, I make 80 million cash an hour missioning on one account. Learn how to fuckin read before trying to be smug.
I understood perfectly fine. My post is an obvious troll in response to your trolling. 80mil/h without the "turning in mission" perks is very high end, so take it as a compliment. However, its noway near problem free as I suspect u use very high end ships (Marauder) and fittings to make this possible.
The norm for casual missionrunning is somewhere around 35-50 mil for one account. I make 70-90mil/h if I stay focused for an hour. Thats with a Noctis alt. |
hellcane
Never Back Down
60
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Posted - 2013.07.08 19:43:00 -
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20mph is pretty good when they keep having walking dead marathons on TV. |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
704
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Posted - 2013.07.08 22:08:00 -
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Nour Aerilon wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:Nour Aerilon wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:I had to lol when I read this. Yes, there have been no buffs to missioning and there have been nerfs. However, the cost of minerals is way up compared to when you played. Its no problem to make 80 mil an hour on one account before LP these days, if you are looting and salvaging. U only make 80 mil from one account? I probably make 185 mil/h from one account before even doing the mission. No, I make 80 million cash an hour missioning on one account. Learn how to fuckin read before trying to be smug. I understood perfectly fine. My post is an obvious troll in response to your trolling. 80mil/h without the "turning in mission" perks is very high end, so take it as a compliment. However, its noway near problem free as I suspect u use very high end ships (Marauder) and fittings to make this possible. The norm for casual missionrunning is somewhere around 35-50 mil for one account. I make 70-90mil/h if I stay focused for an hour. Thats with a Noctis alt.
AE 20 mil bounty 3 mil rewards 20 mil loot.
Gone Berserk 11 mil bounty 2 mil rewards 25 mil loot.
Easy enough to run them then salvage, loot, and sell in one hour in a TFI or similar. That's with a noctis on the same account.
Eve is Real |
Nour Aerilon
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
6
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Posted - 2013.07.08 23:27:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:Nour Aerilon wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:Nour Aerilon wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:I had to lol when I read this. Yes, there have been no buffs to missioning and there have been nerfs. However, the cost of minerals is way up compared to when you played. Its no problem to make 80 mil an hour on one account before LP these days, if you are looting and salvaging. U only make 80 mil from one account? I probably make 185 mil/h from one account before even doing the mission. No, I make 80 million cash an hour missioning on one account. Learn how to fuckin read before trying to be smug. I understood perfectly fine. My post is an obvious troll in response to your trolling. 80mil/h without the "turning in mission" perks is very high end, so take it as a compliment. However, its noway near problem free as I suspect u use very high end ships (Marauder) and fittings to make this possible. The norm for casual missionrunning is somewhere around 35-50 mil for one account. I make 70-90mil/h if I stay focused for an hour. Thats with a Noctis alt. AE 20 mil bounty 3 mil rewards 20 mil loot. Gone Berserk 11 mil bounty 2 mil rewards 25 mil loot. Easy enough to run them then salvage, loot, and sell in one hour in a TFI or similar. That's with a noctis on the same account.
Oh in that case:
Enemies Abound part 5; 65mil loot/salvage, 4 mil Reward
Enemies abound Part 5; 65 mil loot/salvage, 4 mil Reward
138 mil/h easy enough with one account and a noctis on the same account. Might have time to take a quick biobreak or handling a lil bit of gf aggro inbetween missions. Ill go ahed and add 10-15 mil for that. so lets say 153 mil/h/account |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
704
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Posted - 2013.07.08 23:59:00 -
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I only take the missions that net roughly 40 mil raw cash per half hour.. I underlined that methodology in a thread about which missions to take if you want to know which ones they are. I don't take faction missions, and I never run out because I have good standings with more than one or 2 agents. If I played a full work week of Eve like some people do then perhaps I would run out. But then you were all snippy about "casual" so of course that rules that out. I only cash the LP in once a week or so, so if I run missions in a .9 system as opposed to all .5 systems it doesn't really effect me.
Just because YOU can't do something doesn't mean it aint easy for everyone else. It wasn't easy for me when I started, then I picked up on the metagame (by reading this forum right here BTW) and it became easy. You should spend less time being smug and more time reading the fits and methodologies that the good mission runners present here, and you will find yourself making more ISK and talking less ****. Eve is Real |
Nour Aerilon
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
6
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Posted - 2013.07.09 00:49:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:I only take the missions that net roughly 40 mil raw cash per half hour.. I underlined that methodology in a thread about which missions to take if you want to know which ones they are. I don't take faction missions, and I never run out because I have good standings with more than one or 2 agents. If I played a full work week of Eve like some people do then perhaps I would run out. But then you were all snippy about "casual" so of course that rules that out. I only cash the LP in once a week or so, so if I run missions in a .9 system as opposed to all .5 systems it doesn't really effect me.
Just because YOU can't do something doesn't mean it aint easy for everyone else. It wasn't easy for me when I started, then I picked up on the metagame (by reading this forum right here BTW) and it became easy. You should spend less time being smug and more time reading the fits and methodologies that the good mission runners present here, and you will find yourself making more ISK and talking less ****.
Difference is that now u assume that I dont know what Im talking about while I know that u are exaggerating. This is normal, Its the forums but sometime I just cant help myself. I dont care what ship u are flying or how well u fly it. |
Goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
456
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Posted - 2013.07.09 01:24:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote: and I never run out because I have good standings with more than one or 2 agents. Made me stop and look at how many agent I have available now... 900 high sec LVL-4 agents available to me this week.
Why do we end up arguing with some 'know it all' in every thread when all we do is post to help?
Things that keep me up at night;-á Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Couch Camoflage, If you sit very still maybe they wont see you. |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
705
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Posted - 2013.07.09 01:37:00 -
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Nour Aerilon wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:I only take the missions that net roughly 40 mil raw cash per half hour.. I underlined that methodology in a thread about which missions to take if you want to know which ones they are. I don't take faction missions, and I never run out because I have good standings with more than one or 2 agents. If I played a full work week of Eve like some people do then perhaps I would run out. But then you were all snippy about "casual" so of course that rules that out. I only cash the LP in once a week or so, so if I run missions in a .9 system as opposed to all .5 systems it doesn't really effect me.
Just because YOU can't do something doesn't mean it aint easy for everyone else. It wasn't easy for me when I started, then I picked up on the metagame (by reading this forum right here BTW) and it became easy. You should spend less time being smug and more time reading the fits and methodologies that the good mission runners present here, and you will find yourself making more ISK and talking less ****. Difference is that now u assume that I dont know what Im talking about while I know that u are exaggerating. This is normal, Its the forums but sometime I just cant help myself. I dont care what ship u are flying or how well u fly it.
If you don't care then don't reply FFS. I am trying to help someone with information that can be verified by others. Your feelings, trolling, and smug attitude are utterly irrelevant to this thread. Simply reading mission reports on Eve-survival.org will verify. Have a nice day. Eve is Real |
ExcalibursTemplar
Citadel Enterprises
4
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Posted - 2013.07.09 11:35:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:Nour Aerilon wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:Nour Aerilon wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:I had to lol when I read this. Yes, there have been no buffs to missioning and there have been nerfs. However, the cost of minerals is way up compared to when you played. Its no problem to make 80 mil an hour on one account before LP these days, if you are looting and salvaging. U only make 80 mil from one account? I probably make 185 mil/h from one account before even doing the mission. No, I make 80 million cash an hour missioning on one account. Learn how to fuckin read before trying to be smug. I understood perfectly fine. My post is an obvious troll in response to your trolling. 80mil/h without the "turning in mission" perks is very high end, so take it as a compliment. However, its noway near problem free as I suspect u use very high end ships (Marauder) and fittings to make this possible. The norm for casual missionrunning is somewhere around 35-50 mil for one account. I make 70-90mil/h if I stay focused for an hour. Thats with a Noctis alt. AE 20 mil bounty 3 mil rewards 20 mil loot. Gone Berserk 11 mil bounty 2 mil rewards 25 mil loot. Easy enough to run them then salvage, loot, and sell in one hour in a TFI or similar. That's with a noctis on the same account.
Are you sure about that salvage rate for Gone Berserk. I know it used to be a really a really good mission to salvage but I've salvaged it recently and the payout if incredibly low. Maybe the salvage gods have been against me but I'm lucky to get 5 to 10 million from salvaging that mission now.
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