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IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
450
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Posted - 2013.07.08 06:06:00 -
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Garr Earthbender wrote:This one knows not of the attrition doctrines that are being run by both sides. SHUSH YOU
OK I'll play along and apologize for my ignorance by giving my favorite fit away.
Ibis of Doom
High 2 x 150mm Railgun
Medium Warp Disruptor II (too spensive??? goto meta 3) 1mn MWD
Low Micro Ancillary Power Thingo Overdrive or Nano
Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1469
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Posted - 2013.07.08 13:11:00 -
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IbanezLaney wrote:Garr Earthbender wrote:This one knows not of the attrition doctrines that are being run by both sides. SHUSH YOU Ibis Don't think we haven't considered this as our ship of last resort (velator actually) but rookie ships cannot get into plexes. |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
1205
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Posted - 2013.07.08 13:20:00 -
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this overweight feline doctrine looks vulnerable to ranged kites.
that is all. Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1470
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:37:00 -
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You would think so, but with two overdrive injectors these Tristans can move quickly to close. No, kiters are not the way to go. |
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
552
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Posted - 2013.07.08 17:55:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Baron' Soontir Fel wrote:The bad thing about this is that the Tristan is a frog ship. Agreed, from a rp perspective, Caldari FW players should not be allowed to fly Gallente hulls.
I must aggressively object to this: The more caldari that fly navy comets, the more 50 point kills I get on BC.
If anything, I'd like it if the caldari weren't allowed to fly hookbills :P |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1470
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Posted - 2013.07.08 19:06:00 -
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chatgris wrote:I must aggressively object to this: The more caldari that fly navy comets, the more 50 point kills I get on BC. If anything, I'd like it if the caldari weren't allowed to fly hookbills :P I think NOT allowing them to fly Tristans is more important than your petty 50 point BC kills. Do you want us to be swept aside into the dustbin of Militia history? Yes, we're talking extinction event here. |
Syrias Bizniz
Carnivore Company
184
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Posted - 2013.07.08 23:03:00 -
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
is really something like this going on right now?
And are you seriously not creative enough to think of possible solutions?
I always thought, within GalMil (and especially JUSTK), you were one of the 'good guys'. So either i'm being trolled right now, or i have to make up my mind.
I guess i'm being trolled. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1472
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Posted - 2013.07.08 23:17:00 -
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Syrias Bizniz wrote:I guess i'm being trolled. This is no time for trolling. |
Jeann Valjean
Justified Chaos
7
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Posted - 2013.07.08 23:22:00 -
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Confirming that Fat Cat doctrine has forced JUSTK's mining Machariel to stay docked. Our financial experts are furiously working on alternative income sources. Now we have neither a counter fit nor the ISK to fund it.
GG, Kahn. |
Zappity
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
169
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Posted - 2013.07.08 23:47:00 -
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Of course we're being trolled.
The problem is that I've never been able to engage with Faction Warfare due to the inevitable pendulum nature of it and the lack of end game. It makes caring about the trolling difficult. Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.") |
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1472
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Posted - 2013.07.09 00:08:00 -
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Zappity wrote:The problem is that I've never been able to engage with Faction Warfare .... and the lack of end game. And yet you are in RvB. +1 |
Zappity
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
169
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Posted - 2013.07.09 00:15:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Zappity wrote:The problem is that I've never been able to engage with Faction Warfare .... and the lack of end game. And yet you are in RvB. +1
Almost all of my PvP has been in Amarr/Minmatar FW region. I am familiar with FW. Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.") |
Theroine
Justified Chaos
19
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Posted - 2013.07.09 05:30:00 -
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Zappity wrote:The problem is that I've never been able to engage with Faction Warfare due to the inevitable pendulum nature of it and the lack of end game. It makes caring about the trolling difficult. We do have an endgame:
To crush our enemies, see them driven before us, and to hear the lamentation of their women (and their men playing as women).
What else could you want? |
Marc Callan
Interstellar Steel Templis Dragonaors
216
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Posted - 2013.07.09 08:48:00 -
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Theroine wrote:Zappity wrote:The problem is that I've never been able to engage with Faction Warfare due to the inevitable pendulum nature of it and the lack of end game. It makes caring about the trolling difficult. We do have an endgame: To crush our enemies, see them driven before us, and to hear the lamentation of their women (and their men playing as women). What else could you want?
"When Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer." "Nevertheless a prince ought to inspire fear in such a way that, if he does not win love, he avoids hatred..." - Niccolo Machiavelli-á |
Dan Carter Murray
424
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Posted - 2013.07.09 13:20:00 -
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Marc Callan wrote:Theroine wrote:Zappity wrote:The problem is that I've never been able to engage with Faction Warfare due to the inevitable pendulum nature of it and the lack of end game. It makes caring about the trolling difficult. We do have an endgame: To crush our enemies, see them driven before us, and to hear the lamentation of their women (and their men playing as women). What else could you want? "When Alexander saw the breadth of his domain, he wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer."
i like turtles I have yet to find a pvp corp in eve that I have respect for |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1477
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Posted - 2013.07.09 13:22:00 -
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Dan Carter Murray wrote:i like turtles But these Tristans are like FAST turtles. That's what makes them so dangerous. |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
1206
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Posted - 2013.07.09 14:29:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Dan Carter Murray wrote:i like turtles But these Tristans are like FAST turtles. That's what makes them so dangerous.
At least they are not armored hares.
Then we would all be funked. Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.
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IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
467
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Posted - 2013.07.12 04:25:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:You would think so, but with two overdrive injectors these Tristans can move quickly to close. No, kiters are not the way to go.
Yeah you are right. I came across a similar fit last night - Those Tristans can really Boogie.
That said - I'll leave Tristan fleets for others and stick with my Caldari ships.
I can't be seen in a Gallente ship aka a 'poo chariot'.
So you got neutral smart bomb alts ready to warp in 1st yet?
Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |
Milton Middleson
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
279
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Posted - 2013.07.12 08:29:00 -
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This should do the trick:
[Punisher, Charg] Local Hull Conversion Overdrive Injector I Local Hull Conversion Overdrive Injector I Heat Sink I Damage Control I
1MN Microwarpdrive I Medium Supplemental Barrier Emitter I
Small Focused Pulse Laser I, Multifrequency S Small Focused Pulse Laser I, Multifrequency S Small Focused Pulse Laser I, Multifrequency S [empty high slot]
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Small Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer I
(it may run into difficulties if the Caldari switch to acolytes or neut drones, though).
I don't expect monetary recompense for my expertise, but if the FDU would erect a statue of me outside each of their stations, I would not object. |
Bouh Revetoile
TIPIAKS
346
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Posted - 2013.07.12 12:59:00 -
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Milton Middleson wrote:This should do the trick:
[Punisher, Charg] Local Hull Conversion Overdrive Injector I Local Hull Conversion Overdrive Injector I Heat Sink I Damage Control I
1MN Microwarpdrive I Medium Supplemental Barrier Emitter I
Small Focused Pulse Laser I, Multifrequency S Small Focused Pulse Laser I, Multifrequency S Small Focused Pulse Laser I, Multifrequency S [empty high slot]
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Small Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer I
(it may run into difficulties if the Caldari switch to acolytes or neut drones, though).
I don't expect monetary recompense for my expertise, but if the FDU would erect a statue of me outside each of their stations, I would not object. You should make place for a salvager ! To fund the fleet ! |
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The Dissident
Dedicated Individuals Conditioned to Kill B O R G
12
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Posted - 2013.07.12 15:36:00 -
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This'll get deleted eventually but in the meantime...hilarious
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18715778 |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1479
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Posted - 2013.07.12 15:37:00 -
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Do you all see the light now? These things will be the death of us all! |
Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders
5
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:32:00 -
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Damn things, I can't even jam all their drones. Someone please help me figure out how to deal with these. As it is I'll either need to stay docked up, safed up, or climb into one myself if I want to have any chance. |
Estella Osoka
Deep Void Merc Syndicate Villore Accords
120
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:41:00 -
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OMG! What if all their drones were EWAR drones???!!! ECM, Webbing drones, Neut drones, and Sensor damp drones! Oh Myyyyy! |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1479
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:43:00 -
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Yes Estella, the possibilities are endless, and terrifying. They have us in a tough spot. Either we stay safe and docked - and lose all our systems, or we fight and die - and lose all our systems anyways.
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Berluth Luthian
Meltdown.
98
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Posted - 2013.07.12 18:56:00 -
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Can you determine how the FC is getting his drones assigned? If they are passive then that is one thing, but if they are aggressive then drones themselves might be the counter. If they are aggressive and you can get drones to attack other drones by jamming/ the FC, then you are golden.
Anything that would take advantage of the FC's/fleet drone micromanagement would be good.
As far as smartbombs go, why do you take a sec status hit when using them? Is it because you are hitting friendly people who aren't in fleet?
If their fleet is orbiting at 500, then landing and orbiting at anything above 600 m/s could mitigate a lot of the autocannon damage.
Go Bushido
What about, some navitas w/ small smartbombs, remote armor reps, and a neut. Then 2 small cap boosters, and an AB. Max out your armor tank/ resists in the lowslots/rigs. You can pretty easily be cap stable. Max skills these fat cats are going to be hitting you for 100 dps before resists. They'd only hit for about 30-40 dps each after resists max skills.
If you land on grid with 1:1 numbers, you could spread your neuts and lock up each other. Make sure you are announcing incoming damage and you would be able to tank just about all incoming damage if everyone is applying their reps to the target. You could even make sure you are keeping each other outside of smartomb range if you really want to. Obviously with these fits the EMP resist hole is pretty big on the tristans.
The obvious problem with this strategy is that you can use these to eliminate the drones and out-rep their fleet with equal numbers. Also you don't have the points, so of course they can warp away. But if they warp away then you've won and they have to figure out if they want to rebuy new drones. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1480
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Posted - 2013.07.12 19:25:00 -
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These are all great suggestions, but unfortunately a bit misguided. For example, using smartbombs in FW kills your faction standings - due to you hitting members in your own militia. |
Andre Vauban
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
120
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Posted - 2013.07.12 20:13:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:These are all great suggestions, but unfortunately a bit misguided. For example, using smartbombs in FW kills your faction standings - due to you hitting members in your own militia.
The truth reveals itself. This is XG's master plan to get everybody to join JUSTK! QCATS is recruiting: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=146180 |
Morgan Torry
Arma Purgatorium Templis Dragonaors
142
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Posted - 2013.07.12 20:44:00 -
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I read the first two pages and quite. This is brilliant. The whooshing sound coming from the top of non-FW pilots' heads is deafening. Arma Purgatorium - For the State, For the Corporation Faction Warfare, PvP, Training
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Taoist Dragon
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
504
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Posted - 2013.07.12 21:00:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Do you all see the light now? These things will be the death of us all!
Meh!
I'd give 27 decent fit frigs with a good FC better than even odds against 3 navy cruisers pretty much regardless of the actual frig in question. Fight was over before it started. That is the Way, the Tao.
Balance is everything. |
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