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Gizmo Karkhand
Internet Terrorists Rebel Alliance of New Eden
0
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Posted - 2013.07.10 10:40:00 -
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http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/eve-online-skill-reimbursement-battlecrusers/ <<< GO TO HERE AND SIGN UP FOR THE PETITION
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/the-great-skill-change-of-blessed-2013/
Well People of New Eden Players Of EvE-Online If you have played eve for a long time and this CCP shuld Reimbursement you with 6 Million Sp Points Sign this Protest And Hope for the best
The story behind it is i am playing eve on and off from 2008 Because of Real Life Issues (Army- As and combat soldier) Was off for a year from EvE - Because Didnt have a PC around Me CCP Games Decided to do a Major change in the Way the Skill for Battlecrusers & Destroyer work it has now splitted to 8 now you have to train for 8 skills to leve 5 insted of 2
the thing is they forgot to emal players that are gone for a while now most of the people returning to the game are stuck with a training for 150 days + insted of a month max
Dear CCP Reimbursement Every Player That was registered before that date you decided to do the change or at least give out skill points for the extra days
Thank you
If you guys think i am right that they shuld have sent an Email few months before the major change CCP needs to give good Customer service and this is the way
Please sign up and lets hope for the best for every one of us Please share with everyone your corp your alliance and everyone you know in eve thank you |
RaTTuS
BIG Insidious Empire
296
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Posted - 2013.07.10 10:42:00 -
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Rubbish, if you could fly it before you can still fly it you could not fly the others so you have not lost anything
all other info is just whine and you want more cheese http://eveboard.com/ub/419190933-134.png http://imgur.com/nuBlxbC |
Luci Ambrye
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.07.10 10:44:00 -
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was actually going to post something along the same lines as RaTTuS. |
Gizmo Karkhand
Internet Terrorists Rebel Alliance of New Eden
0
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Posted - 2013.07.10 10:48:00 -
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well its not rubbish ccp shuld inform you before they make major changes 2 skills that would take 30-40 days max is now devided into 8 i dont think its rubbish and yes its now total waste of time to cross train into other BC and yes people have real life issues and need to do things for thair country so its important that a game you pay for Gives you a Email few months before they do major changes to the game and inform you about the change am i right or wrong i had only Email on my phone ***** internet in the desert while in the army at least i would get an email i would tell some one at home to set up all the skills needed before the change |
Nightshade Mary
Sarz'na Khumatari The Unthinkables
19
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Posted - 2013.07.10 10:52:00 -
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When you are not subscribed, you are not a customer. The fact that you're a soldier out on deployment; I applaud you for your dedication to keep the world safe. It doesn't however change the initial statement.
Customers were given ample warning of the upcoming changes.
CCP is friendly enough to store your characters and possessions for you whilst you are NOT a customer, that is a nice bonus. That is as far as it goes though.
Like RaTTuS posted; if you could fly it before, you can now. No harm done.
Seriously, there is no need for "free stuff" here.
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RaTTuS
BIG Insidious Empire
300
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Posted - 2013.07.10 10:54:00 -
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you cannot get anyone else to run skills for you it is against the EULA
and you where away for over a year with no access to the internet to see what was happening. - I don't believe you
http://eveboard.com/ub/419190933-134.png http://imgur.com/nuBlxbC |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
394
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Posted - 2013.07.10 10:55:00 -
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Gizmo Karkhand wrote: Because of Real Life Issues (Army- As and combat soldier)
Even Blizzard changes the game while service people are away -- and majorly -- and doesn't reimburse them.
My main had to stop tradeskill training to level Battlecruisers V and Warfare links to IV for Command ships, and all the side skills to do so (42 days of tradeskill training lost). Didn't like it, but the alternative was having to train additional Battlecruisers and spend another 40 days leveling warfare links to fly anything but a cruiser, too. So even if folks were here, they had to suffer regardless. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Anna Djan
Banana Corp
52
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Posted - 2013.07.10 10:55:00 -
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Gizmo Karkhand wrote:well its not rubbish ccp shuld inform you before they make major changes 2 skills that would take 30-40 days max is now devided into 8 i dont think its rubbish and yes its now total waste of time to cross train into other BC and yes people have real life issues and need to do things for thair country so its important that a game you pay for Gives you a Email few months before they do major changes to the game and inform you about the change am i right or wrong i had only Email on my phone ***** internet in the desert while in the army at least i would get an email i would tell some one at home to set up all the skills needed before the change
I'm pretty sure the announcements for the SP changes we detailed extensively across multiple newsletters.
Are you saying you do not get a news letter if not subscribed? or that you chose NOT to have the newsletter by unsubscribing from it in account options?
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Gizmo Karkhand
Internet Terrorists Rebel Alliance of New Eden
0
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Posted - 2013.07.10 10:55:00 -
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Nightshade Mary wrote:When you are not subscribed, you are not a customer. The fact that you're a soldier out on deployment; I applaud you for your dedication to keep the world safe. It doesn't however change the initial statement. Customers were given ample warning of the upcoming changes. CCP is friendly enough to store your characters and possessions for you whilst you are NOT a customer, that is a nice bonus. That is as far as it goes though. Like RaTTuS posted; if you could fly it before, you can now. No harm done. Seriously, there is no need for "free stuff" here. its not about free stuff its about an example if you wrere able to train in less days for other BC whole lot less now its like same skill x4 on bc and x4 destroyer that is not funny |
Hessian Arcturus
S.W.O.R.D. Navy
266
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Posted - 2013.07.10 10:57:00 -
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I remember getting an email about "The great ship change of 2013" was in one of the news letters or a dev blog or something that definitly got emailed my way.
Not to mention it was plastered all over the game for months...Months!!! Yes you were away, and couldn't play. So if you were not playing it didn't effect you until after you got back. Not to mention, if you could fly it before, you can fly it now... It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself. |
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Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar Nulli Secunda
480
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Posted - 2013.07.10 10:58:00 -
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CCP did inform you. The dev blogs are available for everyone to read. I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance. |
Gizmo Karkhand
Internet Terrorists Rebel Alliance of New Eden
0
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Posted - 2013.07.10 10:59:00 -
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Anna Djan wrote:Gizmo Karkhand wrote:well its not rubbish ccp shuld inform you before they make major changes 2 skills that would take 30-40 days max is now devided into 8 i dont think its rubbish and yes its now total waste of time to cross train into other BC and yes people have real life issues and need to do things for thair country so its important that a game you pay for Gives you a Email few months before they do major changes to the game and inform you about the change am i right or wrong i had only Email on my phone ***** internet in the desert while in the army at least i would get an email i would tell some one at home to set up all the skills needed before the change I'm pretty sure the announcements for the SP changes we detailed extensively across multiple newsletters. Are you saying you do not get a news letter if not subscribed? or that you chose NOT to have the newsletter by unsubscribing from it in account options?
well not really seen all the newsletters by ccp and its not unsuscribed because i was updated by newsletters but not with the important information i think a 2 month warning news letter had to been sent to all users
as some say down here they had to suffer 42 days of tranining but trust me 154 days its now same skill took less time i think its not right |
Rengerel en Distel
1681
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:00:00 -
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As others have said, you didn't lose anything, you just didn't gain things that people playing the game did. They announced the changes 2 fan fests ago I believe, with something like 18 months notice. They can hardly be expected to do more than they did. Your post that you would willfully break the EULA and cheat for some SP gain for ships that you weren't even flying doesn't help your case.
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
963
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:01:00 -
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Sory dude but Eve/CCP life goes on with or without you, you'll have to man up and deal with. *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
360
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:02:00 -
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It was announced for a long time in varied ways including newsletters.
But wait a second, I haven't played AoC in over a year... They have created some new tokens! Quick! I must go there and file a petition so I get all the stuffz. Blog: http://aidanbrooder.wordpress.com My EVE YouTube Vids (most recent): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2alSWxXQbI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SEzNNYSlDE |
Tobias Hareka
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:02:00 -
[16] - Quote
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/9129
Check the date.
Yes, that's over a year ago. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Balius and Xanthus Traditional Gunsmiths
10010
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:03:00 -
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Not this again, the simple answer is that CCP widely published the skill changes for a considerable period of time, and no you won't get your SP reimbursed, I like many others changed skill plans to take advantage of the changes and that was a time sink I could have done without at the time, but I'm glad that I did.
"Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad." |
Jack Morrison
Sinister Spinster
1
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:04:00 -
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I don't want to sound harsh, but you are in the army, deployed somewhere. Unless you are a cook you get a nice chance to be shot at. Then you come back (hopefully still healthy and in 1 piece) and this makes you butthurt enough to start a petition ? Seriously ? You can still fly the ships . Some ships are now easier to get into and some got a bit higher / changed requirements. So ? Hardly worth mentioning unless you want to fly everything (and that will take some time anyway). If it is not worth training for you now, then leave it and move to some other ship (type) . |
Gizmo Karkhand
Internet Terrorists Rebel Alliance of New Eden
0
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:04:00 -
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Christopher AET wrote:CCP did inform you. The dev blogs are available for everyone to read. Dev blogs yes but if you have good internet you can read stuff right in the middle of the desert you dont have good internet you only get email and mostly you dont download images just read the text :) i think i am right in a way of old players getting skill reimburstment cause its not the issue its the issue that now i have to tran all bc skils to 5 ad all take 26 days + the same skill would have taken me 26 days before how you guys can ignore the fact that i am trying to fight for the players you guys insted are pointing out names on me :) want cheese and stuff like that |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
963
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:06:00 -
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Gizmo Karkhand wrote:well not really seen all the newsletters by ccp and its not unsuscribed because i was updated by newsletters but not with the important information i think a 2 month warning news letter had to been sent to all users
It's not because you "think they should" that you are right, every one in this game could watch fanfest videos read comments and forum threads for over a year about this specific change.
You got away for a year for whatever professional or personal reason no one should care except one point: happy to know you got safe back home
For everything else please stop moaning.
Edit: what I'm trying to say is simple, the fact you can't or couldn't do whatever in the middle of the desert but keep you ass safe is one thing, complaining you couldn't play your favorite game and that you should get a bonus for having a sandy ass at this point, sry not gonna happen for that reason or another and you should think a bit about it before blindly insist. *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
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Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp. Northern Associates.
9
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:06:00 -
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Gizmo Karkhand wrote:well its not rubbish ccp shuld inform you before they make major changes 2 skills that would take 30-40 days max is now devided into 8 i dont think its rubbish and yes its now total waste of time to cross train into other BC and yes people have real life issues and need to do things for thair country so its important that a game you pay for Gives you a Email few months before they do major changes to the game and inform you about the change am i right or wrong i had only Email on my phone ***** internet in the desert while in the army at least i would get an email i would tell some one at home to set up all the skills needed before the change
ccp did inform many times , try to read dev blog en news sites , you live under a rock?
Also if you play from 2008 off and on , thats not a long time
can i haz your stuff please? |
gregory Chieve
mss industry
0
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:07:00 -
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Props to a very respectable career and sorry you missed out
You can check devblogs etc via slowternet on a mobile phone, things will change ingame and people will always miss out.
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Nightshade Mary
Sarz'na Khumatari The Unthinkables
19
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:08:00 -
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Gizmo Karkhand wrote:Nightshade Mary wrote:When you are not subscribed, you are not a customer. The fact that you're a soldier out on deployment; I applaud you for your dedication to keep the world safe. It doesn't however change the initial statement. Customers were given ample warning of the upcoming changes. CCP is friendly enough to store your characters and possessions for you whilst you are NOT a customer, that is a nice bonus. That is as far as it goes though. Like RaTTuS posted; if you could fly it before, you can now. No harm done. Seriously, there is no need for "free stuff" here. its not about free stuff its about an example if you wrere able to train in less days for other BC whole lot less now its like same skill x4 on bc and x4 destroyer that is not funny
If, before the changes you could fly all BC and Destroyers, you can after the change.
If, you could not, you still cannot.
Plain and simple. |
Sarmatiko
1257
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:08:00 -
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Tobias Hareka wrote:http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/9129 Check the date. Yes, that's over a year ago.
It also looks like OP was active on that period in EVE:
Quote:Hawk-Tech LTD [HTLTD] from 2012.06.03 01:33 to 2013.05.31 15:39. Viziam [VI] from 2012.06.03 01:26 to 2012.06.03 01:33. Aces 'N' Eights [AAA88] from 2012.05.25 22:24 to 2012.06.03 01:26. Viziam [VI] from 2012.05.25 22:15 to 2012.05.25 22:24. Hawk-Tech LTD [HTLTD] from 2012.04.07 14:14 to 2012.05.25 22:15. Viziam [VI] from 2012.04.07 14:09 to 2012.04.07 14:14. We are here [WTHF] from 2011.12.10 21:55 to 2012.04.07 14:09.
Gizmo Karkhand wrote:Christopher AET wrote:CCP did inform you. The dev blogs are available for everyone to read. Dev blogs yes but if you have good internet you can read stuff right in the middle of the desert you dont have good internet you only get email and mostly you dont download images just read the text :) Riiiigh, "in the middle of the desert" just joining/leaving corps but cant read devblog about skill changes. -¥ |
Jack Morrison
Sinister Spinster
1
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:08:00 -
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Gizmo Karkhand wrote:Christopher AET wrote:CCP did inform you. The dev blogs are available for everyone to read. Dev blogs yes but if you have good internet you can read stuff right in the middle of the desert you dont have good internet you only get email and mostly you dont download images just read the text :) i think i am right in a way of old players getting skill reimburstment cause its not the issue its the issue that now i have to tran all bc skils to 5 ad all take 26 days + the same skill would have taken me 26 days before how you guys can ignore the fact that i am trying to fight for the players you guys insted are pointing out names on me :) want cheese and stuff like that
Nobody questions your goals, it is nice to step up for others, but most of us just dont share your opinion.
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baltec1
Bat Country
7251
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:08:00 -
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I got all the new SP and all it got me was a bigger clone cost. |
Gizmo Karkhand
Internet Terrorists Rebel Alliance of New Eden
0
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:09:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Gizmo Karkhand wrote:well not really seen all the newsletters by ccp and its not unsuscribed because i was updated by newsletters but not with the important information i think a 2 month warning news letter had to been sent to all users It's not because you "think they should" that you are right, every one in this game could watch fanfest videos read comments and forum threads for over a year about this specific change. You got away for a year for whatever professional or personal reason no one should care except one point: happy to know you got safe back home For everything else please stop moaning.
not moaning just pissed its not right its in the ccp benifit to make skills longer its 150 days its 5 * 15 USD = 75$ just that ccp is greedy for more money thats all i want to point lol
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Anna Djan
Banana Corp
52
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:09:00 -
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Gizmo Karkhand wrote:Anna Djan wrote:Gizmo Karkhand wrote:well its not rubbish ccp shuld inform you before they make major changes 2 skills that would take 30-40 days max is now devided into 8 i dont think its rubbish and yes its now total waste of time to cross train into other BC and yes people have real life issues and need to do things for thair country so its important that a game you pay for Gives you a Email few months before they do major changes to the game and inform you about the change am i right or wrong i had only Email on my phone ***** internet in the desert while in the army at least i would get an email i would tell some one at home to set up all the skills needed before the change I'm pretty sure the announcements for the SP changes we detailed extensively across multiple newsletters. Are you saying you do not get a news letter if not subscribed? or that you chose NOT to have the newsletter by unsubscribing from it in account options? well not really seen all the newsletters by ccp and its not unsuscribed because i was updated by newsletters but not with the important information i think a 2 month warning news letter had to been sent to all users as some say down here they had to suffer 42 days of tranining but trust me 154 days its now same skill took less time i think its not right
I'm confused. So they announced the changes for over a year in multiple news letters, which you received. But because you didn't read the newsletters, it's CCP fault for not sending you an additional email which you may or may not of read for you not to skill up D5 and B5?
I think the problem is between the chair and the desk. |
Rengerel en Distel
1681
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:09:00 -
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Gizmo Karkhand wrote:Christopher AET wrote:CCP did inform you. The dev blogs are available for everyone to read. Dev blogs yes but if you have good internet you can read stuff right in the middle of the desert you dont have good internet you only get email and mostly you dont download images just read the text :) i think i am right in a way of old players getting skill reimburstment cause its not the issue its the issue that now i have to tran all bc skils to 5 ad all take 26 days + the same skill would have taken me 26 days before how you guys can ignore the fact that i am trying to fight for the players you guys insted are pointing out names on me :) want cheese and stuff like that
No, we're just telling you that you're wrong. There is no reason you have to train for every destroyer and BC to level 5. You obviously didn't before, so it's your choice now. You also don't get reimbursement for changes to the game that took place while you were gone. Are you also going to petition because you didn't get a chance to buy a procurer for 2M isk, or that battleships cost more now, so you should get isk reimbursed because you didn't buy them when they were cheaper, etc.?
With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
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Norian Lonark
Black Thorne Corporation The Cursed Few
82
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:10:00 -
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Everyone was informed by CCP
Its not CCPs fault that you didn't know what was happening, they sent newsletters, gave dev blogs, forum posts well in advance and if people are not able to login or play the game for a year for whatever reason again CCP are not responsible.
I most definitely wont be signing a petition for something which is a whine about absolutely nothing.
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Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
456
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:12:00 -
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I lost the internet for a week and totally missed the window on the Fidelity Contrafund investment possibility after the tech bubble collapse, and i totally demand to be given every single dollar of those potential profits that i could have made!!!!! Post with your main, like a BOSS! |
Pr1ncess Alia
Perkone Caldari State
366
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:13:00 -
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lock this thread
if he's lying his stolen valor ass can't be punished enough
if he's telling the truth, who cares? I know no combat vet that would try to spend his earned honor in exchange for free video game crap... though the Army does have it's fair share of bottom feeders.
go away OP/troll, it's far from funny. In fact, if I'm right about you lying, it's actually criminal. |
Gizmo Karkhand
Internet Terrorists Rebel Alliance of New Eden
0
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:14:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:Gizmo Karkhand wrote:Christopher AET wrote:CCP did inform you. The dev blogs are available for everyone to read. Dev blogs yes but if you have good internet you can read stuff right in the middle of the desert you dont have good internet you only get email and mostly you dont download images just read the text :) i think i am right in a way of old players getting skill reimburstment cause its not the issue its the issue that now i have to tran all bc skils to 5 ad all take 26 days + the same skill would have taken me 26 days before how you guys can ignore the fact that i am trying to fight for the players you guys insted are pointing out names on me :) want cheese and stuff like that No, we're just telling you that you're wrong. There is no reason you have to train for every destroyer and BC to level 5. You obviously didn't before, so it's your choice now. You also don't get reimbursement for changes to the game that took place while you were gone. Are you also going to petition because you didn't get a chance to buy a procurer for 2M isk, or that battleships cost more now, so you should get isk reimbursed because you didn't buy them when they were cheaper, etc.?
i dont think that game itmes is related ok the market is Flexible the game major changes is not well i am just shocked to see that i need to train for 150 days now and pissed about it cause it was 30 days at max
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TharOkha
0asis Group
544
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:15:00 -
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this is gona be interesting GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |
Gizmo Karkhand
Internet Terrorists Rebel Alliance of New Eden
0
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:21:00 -
[35] - Quote
Pr1ncess Alia wrote:lock this thread
if he's lying his stolen valor ass can't be punished enough
if he's telling the truth, who cares? I know no combat vet that would try to spend his earned honor in exchange for free video game crap... though the Army does have it's fair share of bottom feeders.
go away OP/troll, it's far from funny. In fact, if I'm right about you lying, it's actually criminal.
well you dont know me so dont tell share your thought about stuff that you dont know about me ok and its about the way CCP handeles things i just want to point out that its importnat to inform players about major changes
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Djana Libra
DAB Black Legion.
257
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:22:00 -
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I thought someone necro'd an old post but it looks like theres still some special people that are running late.
Well he is in the army so he must be special and everything and everyone else in the world must for sure consider he might be away for more than a year before changing anything.
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Gizmo Karkhand
Internet Terrorists Rebel Alliance of New Eden
0
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:23:00 -
[37] - Quote
Djana Libra wrote:I thought someone necro'd an old post but it looks like theres still some special people that are running late.
Well he is in the army so he must be special and everything and everyone else in the world must for sure consider he might be away for more than a year before changing anything.
if you didnt read the post title i am talking about everyone that has missed out here :)
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Sarmatiko
1257
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:29:00 -
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Gizmo Karkhand wrote: i just want to point out that its importnat to inform players about major changes
You was informed through official channel (March 2012 devblog) while you was active in EVE and your employement history proves this. You decided to ignore that and now complaining about "lack of information". It's your own fault, deal with it.
Also go and read devblog again - there was no such thing as "free redistributable 6 MIL SP" so there is nothing to reimburse or compensate to you. -¥ |
Bi-Mi Lansatha
Tactical Universal Research and Development Omnium Libertatem
172
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:35:00 -
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Gizmo Karkhand wrote: ...The story behind it is i am playing eve on and off from 2008...
You had neither Destroyers or Battle Cruisers trained to level 4 or 5?
What were your characters doing in EvE? |
Bi-Mi Lansatha
Tactical Universal Research and Development Omnium Libertatem
172
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:38:00 -
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Gizmo Karkhand wrote:well its not rubbish ccp shuld inform you before they make major changes 2 skills that would take 30-40 days max... You started in 2008 and never found the need to take 30-40 days to train them. What has changed that now you are in dire need of them?
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Gizmo Karkhand
Internet Terrorists Rebel Alliance of New Eden
0
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:41:00 -
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Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:Gizmo Karkhand wrote: ...The story behind it is i am playing eve on and off from 2008...
You had neither Destroyers or Battle Cruisers trained to level 4 or 5? What were your characters doing in EvE?
well mostly had skills for incursions planned and some one at home updated it for me in eve well this is just makeing me mad 150 days is alot of time i just dont see its right 30 days training changed to 150 |
Gizmo Karkhand
Internet Terrorists Rebel Alliance of New Eden
0
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:42:00 -
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Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:Gizmo Karkhand wrote:well its not rubbish ccp shuld inform you before they make major changes 2 skills that would take 30-40 days max... You started in 2008 and never found the need to take 30-40 days to train them. What has changed that now you are in dire need of them? well since i came back i wanted to cross train to other races now its impossible amarr sucks |
Pr1ncess Alia
Perkone Caldari State
366
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:44:00 -
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Gizmo Karkhand wrote:Pr1ncess Alia wrote:lock this thread
if he's lying his stolen valor ass can't be punished enough
if he's telling the truth, who cares? I know no combat vet that would try to spend his earned honor in exchange for free video game crap... though the Army does have it's fair share of bottom feeders.
go away OP/troll, it's far from funny. In fact, if I'm right about you lying, it's actually criminal. well you dont know me so dont tell share your thought about stuff that you dont know about me ok and its about the way CCP handeles things i just want to point out that its importnat to inform players about major changes
I know you're full of ****
that's all I need to know. |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
2328
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:44:00 -
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Yeah!
Every online game you've ever played should mail you about every change they make, JUST IN CASE you come back.
Some people... wow.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Pr1ncess Alia
Perkone Caldari State
366
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:45:00 -
[45] - Quote
Gizmo Karkhand wrote:Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:Gizmo Karkhand wrote: ...The story behind it is i am playing eve on and off from 2008...
You had neither Destroyers or Battle Cruisers trained to level 4 or 5? What were your characters doing in EvE? well mostly had skills for incursions planned and some one at home updated it for me in eve well this is just makeing me mad 150 days is alot of time i just dont see its right 30 days training changed to 150
account bannable offense (not that any of your story is true anyways)
so, which ban would you like?
Ban for trolling or ban for account sharing? |
Bi-Mi Lansatha
Tactical Universal Research and Development Omnium Libertatem
172
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:47:00 -
[46] - Quote
Gizmo Karkhand wrote:...well since i came back i wanted to cross train to other races now its impossible What are your present Destroyer and Battle Cruiser skills? |
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
681
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:47:00 -
[47] - Quote
Sarmatiko wrote:Gizmo Karkhand wrote: i just want to point out that its importnat to inform players about major changes
You was informed through official channel (March 2012 devblog) while you was active in EVE and your employement history proves this. You decided to ignore that and now complaining about "lack of information". It's your own fault, deal with it. Also go and read devblog again - there was no such thing as "free redistributable 6 MIL SP" so there is nothing to reimburse or compensate to you.
As Sarmatiko said.... there have been a number of Dev blogs about this going back for more than a year! Also many forum posts about how the new skills would work.
All I see in the OP is 'Waaa I want free stuff'
Please LOCK this terrible thread!
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |
Aedh Phelan
Krannon of Sherwood Carthage Empires
22
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:47:00 -
[48] - Quote
Gizmo Karkhand wrote:well its not rubbish ccp shuld inform you before they make major changes
I'm afraid they did inform you. Unfortunately, you were not subscribed at the time and therefore CCP pretty much had no obligation to you.
How would you get the email if you don't have access to a PC? Yes I can think of other ways to have recieved the email. Most of them involve you having the ability to check up on a game you still had interest in. The information was there.
Thank you for your service, but I am afraid you got all you were entitiled to. |
Gizmo Karkhand
Internet Terrorists Rebel Alliance of New Eden
0
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:48:00 -
[49] - Quote
War Kitten wrote:Yeah!
Every online game you've ever played should mail you about every change they make, JUST IN CASE you come back.
Some people... wow.
well if people are suscribed on and of for a long time yes they shuld cause 360$ in suscribcritons dosnt come that easly ok man and trust me if you went for a vacation and found out the same thing you would be pissed too i was not on a vacation + its a game i am on and off what to do sometimes life is hard you cant do choose what you want to do
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Icarus Able
Traverse Holdings
36
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:48:00 -
[50] - Quote
Gizmo Karkhand wrote:Djana Libra wrote:I thought someone necro'd an old post but it looks like theres still some special people that are running late.
Well he is in the army so he must be special and everything and everyone else in the world must for sure consider he might be away for more than a year before changing anything.
if you didnt read the post title i am talking about everyone that has missed out here :)
Noone has missed out...THe changes were stated for at least 6 months. |
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Gizmo Karkhand
Internet Terrorists Rebel Alliance of New Eden
0
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:51:00 -
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RaTTuS wrote:you cannot get anyone else to run skills for you it is against the EULA
and you where away for over a year with no access to the internet to see what was happening. - I don't believe you
you can tell some one at home you a s s to set skills thats not agenst EULA if i had notice i would have done that and told some one at home to train those of me if i had a notice no |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
394
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:53:00 -
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Gizmo Karkhand wrote: i think i am right in a way of old players getting skill reimburstment cause its not the issue its the issue that now i have to tran all bc skils to 5 ad all take 26 days + the same skill would have taken me 26 days before how you guys can ignore the fact that i am trying to fight for the players you guys insted are pointing out names on me :) want cheese and stuff like that
I came back to the game around March, my "notice" was pretty nominal to begin with. When I notice the change and what it was comprised of, had to rush those skills in and got it done right on the 4th.
So even if you were new or returning the notice wasn't made aware to players until they played (and searching skills online even). "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Call Rollard
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
60
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:56:00 -
[53] - Quote
When people had capital alts specializing with capitals, they had spent at least a month or possibly even up to 4 months training for the Battleship V skill the capitals required. They don't need that anymore, its not required, Battleship V is useless; they used that training time so they can't get their training time back. Few people did complain on forums but they didn't get reimbursement.
Stuff happens in EVE sadly and CCP rarely reimburses stuff like what has happened with the BC skills and the Battleship skill no longer needed for capitals. Just train the battlecruiser level you wish to specialise in.
As far as I am aware CCP gave out a warning that the skill changes were happening Last year on March. |
RaTTuS
BIG Insidious Empire
302
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Posted - 2013.07.10 11:56:00 -
[54] - Quote
Gizmo Karkhand wrote:RaTTuS wrote:you cannot get anyone else to run skills for you it is against the EULA
and you where away for over a year with no access to the internet to see what was happening. - I don't believe you
you can tell some one at home you a s s to set skills thats not agenst EULA if i had notice i would have done that and told some one at home to train those of me if i had a notice no no you cannot unless you are under 16Yo
and don't try and evade the profanity filter
what are your current skills - show us on eveboard
http://eveboard.com/ub/419190933-134.png http://imgur.com/nuBlxbC |
Gizmo Karkhand
Internet Terrorists Rebel Alliance of New Eden
0
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Posted - 2013.07.10 12:01:00 -
[55] - Quote
well if i missed it i missed it just pissed cause you guys dont know the fealing about comming home after a long time and see that what you want to tran for now has become 120 days remove the dystroyers just a crappy fealing that wtf soo mcuh time just not right and thanks for you guys calling me names just crazy whats the problem with you guys comming in for the benifit for every one that has missed out like me trust me if you like a game it dosnt matter if you dont play it for a while but major changes must be informeed to people thats what i am saying i think its ccps fault that they didnt give out a red warning that guys the skill chain is transforming into a long skill thats what i am saying down here and thanks for all the offences but it dont take it serious i just want to say one thing it dosnt matter the way every game works in skill points stays the same mostly in every game.
and if you do major updates its important to say to people that were in game but because of real life issues had to get off the pc and go for some crazy **** thats all just dissipointed that you guys dont understand that its not only about me its about people that play this game and what to do amarr is **** and ya the chance i had to cross train mostly has gone its better i tran for larger ships then BC thats what has become here is just not right trust me on this i am right you would get pissed in my the same position that i am in atm |
Rico Minali
The Straw Men
1309
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Posted - 2013.07.10 12:03:00 -
[56] - Quote
Ive always liked to think that Chewbaka (my trusty co-pilot) would always keep me informed if I failed to spot something that has been repeatedly announced since oh before you were born, no wait thats the wrong line. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
Bi-Mi Lansatha
Tactical Universal Research and Development Omnium Libertatem
172
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Posted - 2013.07.10 12:06:00 -
[57] - Quote
Gizmo Karkhand wrote:... The story behind it is i am playing eve on and off from 2008 Because of Real Life Issues (Army- As and combat soldier) Was off for a year from EvE - Because Didnt have a PC around Me... Who's Army? Where were you at?
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Call Rollard
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
60
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Posted - 2013.07.10 12:06:00 -
[58] - Quote
I really do believe however CCP should reimburse the SP for stuff like this.
They really need to remove all the battleship skill points the capital alts specialized and now wasted in as well. |
Gizmo Karkhand
Internet Terrorists Rebel Alliance of New Eden
0
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Posted - 2013.07.10 12:08:00 -
[59] - Quote
Ace Uoweme wrote:Gizmo Karkhand wrote: i think i am right in a way of old players getting skill reimburstment cause its not the issue its the issue that now i have to tran all bc skils to 5 ad all take 26 days + the same skill would have taken me 26 days before how you guys can ignore the fact that i am trying to fight for the players you guys insted are pointing out names on me :) want cheese and stuff like that I came back to the game around March, my "notice" was pretty nominal to begin with. When I notice the change and what it was comprised of, had to rush those skills in and got it done right on the 4th. So even if you were new or returning the notice wasn't made aware to players until they played (and searching skills online even).
thanks for the understanding |
Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
8105
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Posted - 2013.07.10 12:09:00 -
[60] - Quote
TL;DR
drugs are bad mkay You may gain the knowledge, but you will lose your belief, with all its mystery and comfort. If there was proof, absolute and certain, there is an afterlife, why not quit this life, and be done with it? Ponder about these things all your life, and you're a philosopher. Compress these ponderings into a couple of pages, and you'll go mad. |
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Tobias Hareka
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.07.10 12:11:00 -
[61] - Quote
Gizmo Karkhand wrote:well if i missed it i missed it just pissed cause you guys dont know the fealing about comming home after a long time and see that what you want to tran for now has become 120 days remove the dystroyers just a crappy fealing that wtf soo mcuh time just not right and thanks for you guys calling me names just crazy whats the problem with you guys comming in for the benifit for every one that has missed out like me trust me if you like a game it dosnt matter if you dont play it for a while but major changes must be informeed to people thats what i am saying i think its ccps fault that they didnt give out a red warning that guys the skill chain is transforming into a long skill thats what i am saying down here and thanks for all the offences but it dont take it serious i just want to say one thing it dosnt matter the way every game works in skill points stays the same mostly in every game.
and if you do major updates its important to say to people that were in game but because of real life issues had to get off the pc and go for some crazy **** thats all just dissipointed that you guys dont understand that its not only about me its about people that play this game and what to do amarr is **** and ya the chance i had to cross train mostly has gone its better i tran for larger ships then BC thats what has become here is just not right trust me on this i am right you would get pissed in my the same position that i am in atm
You were active in March 2012? According to your employment history you were active. There was one devblog that mentioned skill change. Of course they didn't say how they are going to do it but everyone got the same idea: "it's time to train Destroyers 5 + Battlecruisers 5 + all racial frigate skills to 4 and cruiser skills to 3". |
Bi-Mi Lansatha
Tactical Universal Research and Development Omnium Libertatem
172
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Posted - 2013.07.10 12:19:00 -
[62] - Quote
Gizmo Karkhand wrote:...and if you do major updates its important to say to people that were in game but because of real life issues had to get off the pc and go for some crazy **** thats all just dissipointed that you guys dont understand... I am understanding less and less.
If CCP had sent a member of their team to inform you in person... what could you have done? You said you had no access to a computer.
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Gizmo Karkhand
Internet Terrorists Rebel Alliance of New Eden
0
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Posted - 2013.07.10 12:19:00 -
[63] - Quote
Tobias Hareka wrote:Gizmo Karkhand wrote:well if i missed it i missed it just pissed cause you guys dont know the fealing about comming home after a long time and see that what you want to tran for now has become 120 days remove the dystroyers just a crappy fealing that wtf soo mcuh time just not right and thanks for you guys calling me names just crazy whats the problem with you guys comming in for the benifit for every one that has missed out like me trust me if you like a game it dosnt matter if you dont play it for a while but major changes must be informeed to people thats what i am saying i think its ccps fault that they didnt give out a red warning that guys the skill chain is transforming into a long skill thats what i am saying down here and thanks for all the offences but it dont take it serious i just want to say one thing it dosnt matter the way every game works in skill points stays the same mostly in every game.
and if you do major updates its important to say to people that were in game but because of real life issues had to get off the pc and go for some crazy **** thats all just dissipointed that you guys dont understand that its not only about me its about people that play this game and what to do amarr is **** and ya the chance i had to cross train mostly has gone its better i tran for larger ships then BC thats what has become here is just not right trust me on this i am right you would get pissed in my the same position that i am in atm You were active in March 2012? According to your employment history you were active. There was one devblog that mentioned skill change. Of course they didn't say how they are going to do it but everyone got the same idea: "it's time to train Destroyers 5 + Battlecruisers 5 + all racial frigate skills to 4 and cruiser skills to 3".
well telling your mom to set skill training que is somthing else then looking out in game for updates yourself right |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
396
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Posted - 2013.07.10 12:29:00 -
[64] - Quote
Gizmo Karkhand wrote:well if i missed it i missed it just pissed cause you guys dont know the fealing about comming home after a long time and see that what you want to tran for now has become 120 days remove the dystroyers just a crappy fealing that wtf soo mcuh time just not right
I was out of EvE for years, and all that time didn't get free catch up time. That's the breaks in gaming. Leave and there's a lot of catching up to do. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Bi-Mi Lansatha
Tactical Universal Research and Development Omnium Libertatem
172
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Posted - 2013.07.10 12:31:00 -
[65] - Quote
Gizmo Karkhand wrote:...well telling your mom to set skill training que is somthing else then looking out in game for updates yourself right How many skill points do you have?
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Paul Leonard Kersey
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
29
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Posted - 2013.07.10 12:42:00 -
[66] - Quote
Stop whining.
It was posted for almost a year.
You can still fly every ship you could before, stop begging for free sp. |
Bi-Mi Lansatha
Tactical Universal Research and Development Omnium Libertatem
172
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Posted - 2013.07.10 12:43:00 -
[67] - Quote
You had no access to the internet? I am told it lags and is not usable for gaming, but...
Steelheads Rev Up Internet Cafes in Afghanistan
Dean Barsaleau Mar 11, 2013 5:21 PM The military has been fielding Internet cafes to support the Morale, Welfare, and Recreation (MWR) needs for the troops in Afghanistan since 2007. From a modest beginning of less than a dozen cafes back then, the project has now grown to over 360 active sites in Jan 2011. The Internet cafes employ an iDirect satellite modem, a Very Small Aperture Terminal (VSAT), and the associated network devices. The cafes come in three sizes (Large, Medium, and Outpost) with 5-20 computers, 3-10 VoIP phones, and 1-3 webcams per cafe.
Unfortunately, there is a significant shortage of space capacity available for MWR purposes over Afghanistan. In response, the project team had to look for other ways to make better use of the bandwidth available. Riverbed Steelhead 250M and 250H devices were selected for the remote cafes, with two 2050 devices at each Teleport. Deployment of the Steelheads began in January 2010 and today over 75% of the Afghanistan Internet cafes include a Steelhead. Total traffic reduction has increased from 232 GB/month in Jan 2011 to over 13.5 TB/month today. Overall, the addition of Steelheads to the Afghanistan Internet cafe architecture has reduced the amount of traffic going over the satellite links by over 66 TB! Wow!
These bandwidth savings result in a much improved user experience for our deployed troops, who rely on the MWR Internet cafes to keep in touch with family and friends. The project team has since replaced the two 2050 devices at the Teleports with a single 6050 to handle the increasing number of TCP sessions, and those appliances, like their 2050 predecessors, have not missed a beat. Steelhead has been a great success story for the MWR Internet cafes in Afghanistan.
Dean Barsaleau OEF Internet Cafe Program Manager
Sniperhill Internet Services, LLC or Sniperhill is an American commercial Internet service provider (ISP) that operates on US and NATO Bases in Iraq and Afghanistan. It provides wired and wireless commercial Internet access to US and Coalition Armed Forces, direct-hire DOD, Department of the Army (DA) and State Department civilians, and authorized civilian contractors and International businesses participating in Operation New Dawn (OND) and Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF). |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
396
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Posted - 2013.07.10 12:51:00 -
[68] - Quote
Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:You had no access to the internet? I am told it lags and is not usable for gaming, but...
They can still play from Afghanistan. A guildie in EQII was an civilian contractor out there (retired military), and was raiding in EQII. The problem was more the downtimes, than not being able to play itself.
Life for a soldier has long since changed from WWII, Korea and even Vietnam. They have m-a-n-y of the amenities of home life out in the sticks these days, including live internet (beats trying to send 8mm and cassette tapes back to our fathers in Vietnam). "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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MastaKari
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2013.07.10 12:52:00 -
[69] - Quote
well telling your mom to set skill training que is somthing else then looking out in game for updates yourself right [/quote]
so you also told your "Mom" to move corps as well.... riiiiight.....
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/9129 -06.03.2012 19:21
Relentless Force [R.FC.] from 2013.05.31 16:44 to 2013.06.29 16:39. Viziam [VI] from 2013.05.31 15:39 to 2013.05.31 16:44. Hawk-Tech LTD [HTLTD] from 2012.06.03 01:33 to 2013.05.31 15:39. Viziam [VI] from 2012.06.03 01:26 to 2012.06.03 01:33. Aces 'N' Eights [AAA88] from 2012.05.25 22:24 to 2012.06.03 01:26. Viziam [VI] from 2012.05.25 22:15 to 2012.05.25 22:24. Hawk-Tech LTD [HTLTD] from 2012.04.07 14:14 to 2012.05.25 22:15. Viziam [VI] from 2012.04.07 14:09 to 2012.04.07 14:14.
stop bull****ing to get free stuff. CCP gave you plenty of time and sent out enough info about the change WHEN YOU WERE PLAYING. not their fault you missed it. |
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CCP Falcon
3439
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Posted - 2013.07.10 12:58:00 -
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The changes that were introduced were communicated well ahead of time in line with our policy on pre-expansion blogging regarding what will be changing.
The changes were communicated in devblogs, and via various other channels.
Locked as a rant.
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