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Trader Joe Jackson
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.11 10:33:00 -
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I was going on vacation a couple days ago, and was wondering if my laptop would allow me to lightly play Eve or not when I had free time. I have a Sony Vaio SVT1312, which only has Intel HD 4000 graphics, so I googled it. System requirement labs said that it didnt meet minimum, and several forum posts have said that if I put everything to low, with a low res, I might get 30ish FPS etc etc.
So I figured that if I could at least get in to switch skills and stuff, that would good enough. Maybe do some distribution missions for standing or something. Imagine my surprise when I logged in with medium settings at 720p, and found myself with a steady 60fps... Quick dips when exiting station and such, but that is normal. Doing combat just fine as well. Even in Jita ship clouds I was getting high 40's.
So what the hell, people? The machine is only a 1.7ghz dual core as well... I spent a lot of time looking into it, getting disappointed, and then just to find out that it works perfectly fine... Not sure what 1080 would be like, but since my laptop cant do 1080, I am a bit pissed off. Does everyone just talk out of their ass, or what? |
Job Valador
Super Moose Defence Force
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Posted - 2013.07.11 10:37:00 -
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I have slightly worse specs on my laptop and i get about the same performance you have had. Only issue I have with it is if there are 200+ ships on grid, then things get dicey. "The stone exhibited a profound lack of movement." |
Trader Joe Jackson
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.11 10:43:00 -
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I am sure that if you plan to do fleet battles or something, then it is not going to work out fine. But people were making it to to be something WAY worse, like you couldnt even do encounter missions without turning into a stutterfest. |
Cipher Deninard
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.11 11:04:00 -
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Used to play on my laptop before I built my new PC. It had Intel 3000 graphics and I ran on a mixture of mostly low settings but medium texture and shader settings. Only real problems I had was with dust clouds in missions.I couldn't go back to that after spending a few months with max settings on my new PC though. |
dexington
Dexington Corporation
685
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Posted - 2013.07.11 11:12:00 -
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I also got a Intel HD 4000 graphics (i5 1.7GHz and 4GB ram) and i'm running two full screen window mode clients without lag at maximum resolution with low graphics setting.
Might not work in fleet battles, i have not tried that, but works just fine for everything else. I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous. |
Kristopher Rocancourt
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
154
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Posted - 2013.07.11 11:25:00 -
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Trader Joe Jackson wrote:I was going on vacation a couple days ago, and was wondering if my laptop would allow me to lightly play Eve or not when I had free time. I have a Sony Vaio SVT1312, which only has Intel HD 4000 graphics, so I googled it. System requirement labs said that it didnt meet minimum, and several forum posts have said that if I put everything to low, with a low res, I might get 30ish FPS etc etc.
So I figured that if I could at least get in to switch skills and stuff, that would good enough. Maybe do some distribution missions for standing or something. Imagine my surprise when I logged in with medium settings at 720p, and found myself with a steady 60fps... Quick dips when exiting station and such, but that is normal. Doing combat just fine as well. Even in Jita ship clouds I was getting high 40's.
So what the hell, people? The machine is only a 1.7ghz dual core as well... I spent a lot of time looking into it, getting disappointed, and then just to find out that it works perfectly fine... Not sure what 1080 would be like, but since my laptop cant do 1080, I am a bit pissed off. Does everyone just talk out of their ass, or what? get with the year 2004 mate. Proud member of MYM8 Jita Police.
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Pew Terror
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.11 11:58:00 -
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Eve runs at 40-60fps @ 1080p on my freaking tablet running a HD4000. They even implemented some guesture support |
Seth Darkness
Friends of Honor C0VEN
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Posted - 2013.07.11 12:00:00 -
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Pew Terror wrote:Eve runs at 40-60fps @ 1080p on my freaking tablet running a HD4000. They even implemented some guesture support
Microsoft Surface Pro? |
Kali Maat
PVP FAST
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Posted - 2013.07.11 13:44:00 -
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I do all my PI on a thinkpad X220 http://images.anandtech.com/doci/4211/x220-tab.jpg and most other stuff in eve that play solo.. PI with touch or pen input is great :-) |
brinelan
The Flying Dead Insidious Empire
57
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Posted - 2013.07.11 14:34:00 -
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They recently updated the requirements stating that while other setups may work they don't guarantee it. |
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Trader Joe Jackson
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.11 14:41:00 -
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Kristopher Rocancourt wrote:Trader Joe Jackson wrote:I was going on vacation a couple days ago, and was wondering if my laptop would allow me to lightly play Eve or not when I had free time. I have a Sony Vaio SVT1312, which only has Intel HD 4000 graphics, so I googled it. System requirement labs said that it didnt meet minimum, and several forum posts have said that if I put everything to low, with a low res, I might get 30ish FPS etc etc.
So I figured that if I could at least get in to switch skills and stuff, that would good enough. Maybe do some distribution missions for standing or something. Imagine my surprise when I logged in with medium settings at 720p, and found myself with a steady 60fps... Quick dips when exiting station and such, but that is normal. Doing combat just fine as well. Even in Jita ship clouds I was getting high 40's.
So what the hell, people? The machine is only a 1.7ghz dual core as well... I spent a lot of time looking into it, getting disappointed, and then just to find out that it works perfectly fine... Not sure what 1080 would be like, but since my laptop cant do 1080, I am a bit pissed off. Does everyone just talk out of their ass, or what? get with the year 2004 mate.
I have an ultrabook from last year... |
Seetesh
RTS - POS Deployments
53
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Posted - 2013.07.11 14:45:00 -
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From a few years of experience the cards run fine for missions and mining. But fleet battles can cause a few problems and the laptop can feel sluggish with drops in fps, performance can be increased by altering the intel gfx settings to improve performance and overriding application control.
That said as long as your not in a large fleet and do not mind graphics adapters resetting every so often you should be fine. |
Signal11th
The Retirement Club
1067
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Posted - 2013.07.11 14:47:00 -
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Kristopher Rocancourt wrote:Trader Joe Jackson wrote:I was going on vacation a couple days ago, and was wondering if my laptop would allow me to lightly play Eve or not when I had free time. I have a Sony Vaio SVT1312, which only has Intel HD 4000 graphics, so I googled it. System requirement labs said that it didnt meet minimum, and several forum posts have said that if I put everything to low, with a low res, I might get 30ish FPS etc etc.
So I figured that if I could at least get in to switch skills and stuff, that would good enough. Maybe do some distribution missions for standing or something. Imagine my surprise when I logged in with medium settings at 720p, and found myself with a steady 60fps... Quick dips when exiting station and such, but that is normal. Doing combat just fine as well. Even in Jita ship clouds I was getting high 40's.
So what the hell, people? The machine is only a 1.7ghz dual core as well... I spent a lot of time looking into it, getting disappointed, and then just to find out that it works perfectly fine... Not sure what 1080 would be like, but since my laptop cant do 1080, I am a bit pissed off. Does everyone just talk out of their ass, or what? get with the year 2004 mate.
Just bought a Macbook Air that runs Intel HD400 and it runs fine. Powered by Reath Filter V1.23 "All posts by this pilot are personal held views and not representitive of RKK or Retirement Club views or policies. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster. |
Erloas
Unorthodox Operations
5
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Posted - 2013.07.11 15:10:00 -
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Well the integrated graphics cards like the Intel 4000 have made pretty good strides lately. The general rule before was it took a discrete card to run just about anything but that is becoming less and less the case. Granted even these new integrated graphics aren't going to do great, especially on high end games, but they do fine at lower resolutions and on older games (which EVE obviously is, 10th anniversary and all, even with the updates). It also helps that EVE isn't a twitch-based game and a drop in FPS isn't as big of a deal as it is in some other types of games.
Also minimum requirements also tend to take into account everything you can do in the game, so they will be made with large fleet battles in mind as well. |
Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
459
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Posted - 2013.07.11 15:26:00 -
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~*Don't Use Integrated Graphics*~ |
Pew Terror
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.11 16:35:00 -
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Seth Darkness wrote:Pew Terror wrote:Eve runs at 40-60fps @ 1080p on my freaking tablet running a HD4000. They even implemented some guesture support Microsoft Surface Pro?
Yeah, opening and closing UI's feels noticably more sluggish then on my gaming rig, but solo to small gang combat i see no difference really. Haven't tried bigger fleet fights as I only play on that on the couch when watching tv. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4351
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Posted - 2013.07.11 16:50:00 -
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Cipher Deninard wrote:Used to play on my laptop before I built my new PC. It had Intel 3000 graphics and I ran on a mixture of mostly low settings but medium texture and shader settings. Only real problems I had was with dust clouds in missions.I couldn't go back to that after spending a few months with max settings on my new PC though. This.
Most people were likely looking at the performance hit they took whenever they encountered an effect like a dust cloud, which would have killed your FPS on that machine.
Fortunately those were recently removed. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
619
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Posted - 2013.07.11 16:55:00 -
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My netbook at 11.x inches has dual core AMD, 4gb ram, 500gb HD and dedicated Ati graphics.
Works great for such a small laptop and its a couple of years old now, very handy to carry when not requiring my 16gb 8 core laptop for heavy image processing astrophotography, reminds me to sort out an FPGA farm for processing stacks.
My small netbook playes eve fine. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:05:00 -
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GÇ£Minimum requirementGÇ¥ doesn't mean GÇ£less than this and the game will not run/uninstall itself in shame/explodeGÇ¥ GÇö it means that they offer no guarantees that it will work or that you will see any kind of reasonable performance, and will not test for compatibility from now on. If it does (and it almost always does if it's just a spec bump rather than a specific hardware feature requirement), then great, but don't expect it to keep working. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Destoya
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:18:00 -
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Yeah I just recently got a Vaio Pro 13 (1080p, HD4400) and was quite surprised how well the game ran on the iGPU.
Booted up one of my Jita alts, undocked from 4-4, and was pretty happy that it could even run 30 FPS. Then I checked the settings and was really amazed that it still managed that with everything turned to high, including draw distance and shadows; stuff that I usually turn off even on my SLIed up gaming desktop. Turning everything to low except shaders and textures which I left at medium gave me a very playable experience that hovered at the 50-60 FPS mark. Still need to see how it performs in a fleet fight, but I think as long as I zoom out and turn brackets off it should be absolutely fine.
Integrated graphics is getting quite impressive these days, easily enough for low to mid end games like EVE and Dota2 at moderate settings. Still a long ways off being able to run games like Crysis3 at playable settings and resolution, but given the way things have been shaping up, that day is only a few years away |
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Mr Floydy
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:24:00 -
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I'm baffled how anyone is seeing this as a bad thing.
Sure get pissed off when companies go "it requires X to run" only to find out that hardware will run the game at 2 fps and probably crash every 10 minutes. But getting pissed off that the game does work on something under the minimum that CCP recommend? wtf?
I say fair play CCP for actually providing minimum specs that run the game in a playable way :) |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
619
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:28:00 -
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Mr Floydy wrote:I'm baffled how anyone is seeing this as a bad thing.
Sure get pissed off when companies go "it requires X to run" only to find out that hardware will run the game at 2 fps and probably crash every 10 minutes. But getting pissed off that the game does work on something under the minimum that CCP recommend? wtf?
I say fair play CCP for actually providing minimum specs that run the game in a playable way :)
A game requiring X to run would probably need to supply the source. |
Untanas Volmyr
Running with Knives Nexus Fleet
28
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Posted - 2013.07.11 17:51:00 -
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That's odd. I have an Asus v500 laptop which has an nvidia630m. However in eves graphics settings the only option I ever had for video was Intel 4000 HD. Not sure what's going on there. I get good performance with AA on low. Shaders on medium. Murphy's Technology Law - If your not thoroughly confused. Then you were not thoroughly informed. |
Trader Joe Jackson
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.11 18:55:00 -
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Mr Floydy wrote:I'm baffled how anyone is seeing this as a bad thing.
Sure get pissed off when companies go "it requires X to run" only to find out that hardware will run the game at 2 fps and probably crash every 10 minutes. But getting pissed off that the game does work on something under the minimum that CCP recommend? wtf?
I say fair play CCP for actually providing minimum specs that run the game in a playable way :)
I am most certainly not complaining about it working. I am very happy for it. My complaint is when I searched the forums, all I saw were posts saying that the HD 4000 was going to get low FPS even at low settings, and some saying that it was basically unplayable. I nearly didnt even bother trying. So I am pissed that people with zero experience with it are telling curious people that it isnt possible/feasible. |
Kali Maat
PVP FAST
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Posted - 2013.07.12 14:30:00 -
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it is unplayable if you have a ziloin other programs open.. outlook google chrome with 10 extentions and skype and teamspeak and...
people bother me why I use in game voice.. lol I'm on laptop. runing skype drop my FPS in half. |
Denidil
Turalyon Plus
623
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Posted - 2013.07.12 16:43:00 -
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Tippia wrote:GÇ£Minimum requirementGÇ¥ doesn't mean GÇ£less than this and the game will not run/uninstall itself in shame/explodeGÇ¥ GÇö it means that they offer no guarantees that it will work or that you will see any kind of reasonable performance, and will not test for compatibility from now on. If it does (and it almost always does if it's just a spec bump rather than a specific hardware feature requirement), then great, but don't expect it to keep working.
^^^ tippia gets it Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design. |
Marianne Pollard
University of Caille Gallente Federation
62
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Posted - 2013.07.12 18:41:00 -
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Mr Floydy wrote:I'm baffled how anyone is seeing this as a bad thing.
Nobody's saying that, quite the opposite.
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