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Matokin Lemant
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.13 19:55:00 -
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Taking a look in the character sale section it looks like alto of people are training spaceship command for every race now a-days...what hapend to specking for just one/two races
Whats this I will inject/train every race in spaceship CMD because I can and dont even touch the gunnery/missile skills its just a waist of time if you ask me |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.07.13 19:57:00 -
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The recent skill changes probably have something to do with that.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Solutio Letum
Terpene Conglomerate
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Posted - 2013.07.13 19:57:00 -
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hmmm... dessy skills..... BC skills..... not a pointer... |
Lord Ryan
Donkey Hats
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Posted - 2013.07.13 20:13:00 -
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Maybe we did specialize than the second or third year came around. I'm almost maxed out on all 5 and haven't been playing as long as many.
Besides fleet warfare requires versatile pilots.
Do not assume-áanything above this line-áwas typed by me. Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient.
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Riot Girl
Thundercats The Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.07.13 21:32:00 -
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Ship rebalances mean people can choose a ship suitable for their particular requirements, rather than just training FOTM. Oh god. |
Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
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Posted - 2013.07.13 21:45:00 -
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I did specialise, then I ran out of skills. Dominique Vasilkovsky Mashie Saldana Monica Foulkes |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
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Posted - 2013.07.13 21:49:00 -
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Matokin Lemant wrote:Taking a look in the character sale section it looks like alto of people are training spaceship command for every race now a-days...what hapend to specking for just one/two races
Whats this I will inject/train every race in spaceship CMD because I can and dont even touch the gunnery/missile skills its just a waist of time if you ask me
Considering the FOTM ship changes on a monthly basis, not crosstraining leaves you in highsec without a paddle....
I too am excited about trading playability for more lag and shiny pictures.....:( Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
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Obunagawe
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Posted - 2013.07.13 21:58:00 -
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Why specialise? Just make an alt for every possible specialization and you can be perfect in 1% of the time it should take. |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.13 22:06:00 -
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Obunagawe wrote:Why specialise? Just make an alt for every possible specialization and you can be perfect in 1% of the time it should take.
Which would take 2 accounts. Only have 3 alts and there's 4 factions. Each faction has 2 weapons. So essentially that's 3 accounts if you also factor in your trade alts. That equals paying $45/mon. WoW you just need 1 account to play every race/class in both factions.
4 alts for 1 weapon system per faction, you'll have a point. But not how it's setup now. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2013.07.13 22:59:00 -
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Matokin Lemant wrote:Taking a look in the character sale section it looks like alto of people are training spaceship command for every race now a-days...what hapend to specking for just one/two races
Whats this I will inject/train every race in spaceship CMD because I can and dont even touch the gunnery/missile skills its just a waist of time if you ask me
CCP said 'FREE SP HERE', so everyone jumped in and trained for them whether it made any sense or not.
The good thing is that they are so plentiful right now, you can get one for less than it cost to train them. On top of that, my specialized characters are worth even more.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
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Jimmy Morane
Aurora Novae Aetatis Expoit This Mf's
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Posted - 2013.07.13 23:15:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Obunagawe wrote:Why specialise? Just make an alt for every possible specialization and you can be perfect in 1% of the time it should take. Which would take 2 accounts. Only have 3 alts and there's 4 factions. Each faction has 2 weapons. So essentially that's 3 accounts if you also factor in your trade alts. That equals paying $45/mon. WoW you just need 1 account to play every race/class in both factions. 4 alts for 1 weapon system per faction, you'll have a point. But not how it's setup now.
Perhaps ccp will give us space pandas too. |
gargars
Cohesion Inc Beyond-Repair
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Posted - 2013.07.13 23:41:00 -
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Matokin Lemant wrote:Taking a look in the character sale section it looks like alto of people are training spaceship command for every race now a-days...what hapend to specking for just one/two races
Whats this I will inject/train every race in spaceship CMD because I can and dont even touch the gunnery/missile skills its just a waist of time if you ask me
Options are a good thing.
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Riot Girl
Thundercats The Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.07.13 23:41:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:WoW you just need 1 account to play every race/class in both factions. You're kinda forced to play every race and class because there's so little content to keep players occupied. Any content that was relevant in the past is now obsolete, there is no need for players to interact or communicate, less than 1% of the player base does heroic level raiding so there is no need for meaningful guilds and you're basically stuck doing the same dailies and BGs all day every day. Blizzard continue to make the game easier and easier for casual players and continue to kill off World PvP on PvP servers to satisfy carebears. There is literally no content beyond dailies, LFR and transmog runs.
Oh god. |
Cindy Marco
Expanse Security
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Posted - 2013.07.14 12:26:00 -
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Why lock yourself into one play style?
Then there is the fact you can only specialize so long. After you run out of things to train you have to pick something new. |
King Aires
Coffee Sipper's Club Biggby Coffee Fan Club
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Posted - 2013.07.14 12:35:00 -
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Pretty much once you hit 100 million SP there is no point in specializing in anything unless you want to lock your account to a Titan or something.
But for those of us preferring normal ships, There isn't much left to train for except some of the weapon specialization 5 stuff.
Industry people, same story. At some point there just isn't a skill that makes Veld less dangerous |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.14 13:14:00 -
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Jimmy Morane wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Obunagawe wrote:Why specialise? Just make an alt for every possible specialization and you can be perfect in 1% of the time it should take. Which would take 2 accounts. Only have 3 alts and there's 4 factions. Each faction has 2 weapons. So essentially that's 3 accounts if you also factor in your trade alts. That equals paying $45/mon. WoW you just need 1 account to play every race/class in both factions. 4 alts for 1 weapon system per faction, you'll have a point. But not how it's setup now. Perhaps ccp will give us space pandas too.
Or real consequences in PvP, and be even cheaper to play than even WoW.
I still have to pay for every death in WoW. When was the last fleet you had to pay a dime?
FPS much? "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
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Posted - 2013.07.14 13:18:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote: I still have to pay for every death in WoW.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M |
ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
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Posted - 2013.07.14 14:35:00 -
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Training an alt for caldari ships. Just over a year of training now and I've specialised him into every sub-command ships caldari hull to a high degree of proficiency. Ergo, all I have left to specialise with him is command ships, battleships, marauders and blackops, and then maybe I'll consider capitals. Many people won't bother with marauders and blackops because quite frankly they're awful, hence that cuts around a hundred or two hundred days off the training queue.
That makes it just under two years to fully specialise in one race. That being the missile race also means that crosstraining between the gunnery races would be very quick and easy - gallente to amarr is just a matter of training gunnery specialisations and racial-specific spaceship command skills. There's no need to even learn shield tanking. This is why very few characters are totally race-specialised. Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |
Trin Javidan
Caymen Labs
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Posted - 2013.07.14 14:40:00 -
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I ran out of skills to train |
Ryuu Shi
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.14 16:01:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:I still have to pay for every death in WoW. When was the last fleet you had to pay a dime?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0urb6lU-FkI Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.
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Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.14 16:02:00 -
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I tried speclizing once... it hurt. Not sure how you guys do it. "Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.14 16:29:00 -
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Fitting skills, gunnery support skills, missile support skills to 5, all races subcaps ship skills, all large T2 guns trained.
Look at me I'm nerf proof! I don't need to train for the FOTM, I'm already there. You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
449
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Posted - 2013.07.14 16:50:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:WoW you just need 1 account to play every race/class in both factions. You're kinda forced to play every race and class because there's so little content to keep players occupied. Any content that was relevant in the past is now obsolete, there is no need for players to interact or communicate, less than 1% of the player base does heroic level raiding so there is no need for meaningful guilds and you're basically stuck doing the same dailies and BGs every day. Blizzard continue to make the game easier and easier for casual players and continue to kill off World PvP on PvP servers to satisfy carebears. There is literally no content beyond dailies, LFR and transmog runs.
Meanwhile, those who complained about the game was getting easier and easier, are playing games like EvE. Which is easier than WoW in many of the very ways they complain about. So it's not the ease itself.
It not that the game is easier, it's that the routine doesn't change. Class specs; the bosses; the dailies and such change, but not the basic routines. People get bored of the same routines. "What do I do today?" becomes punching the same timecard, for years.
Those who love the same routine for years (like my sis, who worked at one job for over 30 years), it's terrific. She's treating WoW like it's the best thing since sliced bread, it's not boring to her. But for those who PvP, the same routine gets old to THEM.
Those who prefer a steady diet of thrills (like a drug high) will get disappointed in games with the same routines.
So, again, it's not one game thats going to satisfy everyone. Just like EvE, there isn't just one play style in this game to keep interest all the time. What players like in EvE for one segment of gameplay is fun to them, but incredibly boring for another segment. If it become too boring, they search for something new and refreshing.
To me PvP is something to do on the side to break the tandem, as it's carefree. But it doesn't replace what I enjoy playing MMOs for (things that can't be found in other genre of games). My class in WoW no other game has. It's unique. That's it's pull to me. I tolerate the tandem to play it. Just like in EvE, it's market and crafting is unique. That's why I play the game. I tolerate the wholesale PvP to play it.
The issue is the routines and interest. If they aren't changed around every once in a while, or the game doesn't offer something unique, people get tired of it.
It's called, burn out. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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