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Phaade
Debitum Naturae WHY so Seri0Us
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Posted - 2013.07.14 17:50:00 -
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Lately, I've been noticing a lot of what I consider to be not only pathetic, but just plain broken.
All forms of ewar, aside from ECM, are simple debuffs to certain aspects of your ship, and can usually be managed in a fight. ECM can not.
I am 50% into the structure of my target and his pal whilst soloing, and he lands his jackass falcon alt. Yay, perma jammed, fights over, I literally can do nothing but watch my ship blow up.
Anyone else see a problem with this? There are plenty of things that Ewar should do aside from break your lock, which is essentially a 20 second and spammable "stun."
Makes Soloing in PvP a lot less fun. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.07.14 17:52:00 -
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Over 9000!!!
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Arec Bardwin
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Posted - 2013.07.14 17:53:00 -
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How do you know it was his alt? |
Phaade
Debitum Naturae WHY so Seri0Us
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Posted - 2013.07.14 17:54:00 -
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Arec Bardwin wrote:How do you know it was his alt?
Cuz it was the same name with the number 2 at the end of it it lol. |
Hells Merc
mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2013.07.14 17:59:00 -
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Phaade wrote:Arec Bardwin wrote:How do you know it was his alt? Cuz it was the same name with the number 2 at the end of it it lol.
Naaaa he could probably hear you whining in local.........
perfectly natural response for a neutral to come jam you..... |
Zane Tekitsu
D.I.C.A.D. Solutions
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Posted - 2013.07.14 18:05:00 -
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Falcon alt availability and count unknown because of falcon. |
maCH'EttE
Mafia Redux Phobia.
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Posted - 2013.07.14 18:09:00 -
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Phaade wrote:Lately, I've been noticing a lot of what I consider to be not only pathetic, but just plain broken.
All forms of ewar, aside from ECM, are simple debuffs to certain aspects of your ship, and can usually be managed in a fight. ECM can not.
I am 50% into the structure of my target and his pal whilst soloing, and he lands his jackass falcon alt. Yay, perma jammed, fights over, I literally can do nothing but watch my ship blow up.
Anyone else see a problem with this? There are plenty of things that Ewar should do aside from break your lock, which is essentially a 20 second and spammable "stun."
Makes Soloing in PvP a lot less fun. Did you just come to this conclusion. ECM OP! Instead of people at ccp playing with mods no one really cares for and ships(haulers) no one really gives two s****t's about, they should put their thinking cap on and figure a way of making ecm of any and every kind alittle lest OP, even better, take it out of the damn fuc**** game. Love it when you get perma jammed over 80+km, its like, okay okay, let me pull my draws down and let you have a go at me. |
Gary Bell
Hard Knocks Inc. Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2013.07.14 18:14:00 -
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maCH'EttE wrote:Phaade wrote:Lately, I've been noticing a lot of what I consider to be not only pathetic, but just plain broken.
All forms of ewar, aside from ECM, are simple debuffs to certain aspects of your ship, and can usually be managed in a fight. ECM can not.
I am 50% into the structure of my target and his pal whilst soloing, and he lands his jackass falcon alt. Yay, perma jammed, fights over, I literally can do nothing but watch my ship blow up.
Anyone else see a problem with this? There are plenty of things that Ewar should do aside from break your lock, which is essentially a 20 second and spammable "stun."
Makes Soloing in PvP a lot less fun. Did you just come to this conclusion. ECM OP! Instead of people at ccp playing with mods no one really cares for and ships(haulers) no one really gives two s****t's about, they should put their thinking cap on and figure a way of making ecm of any and every kind alittle lest OP, even better, take it out of the damn fuc**** game. Love it when you get perma jammed over 80+km, its like, okay okay, let me pull my draws down and let you have a go at me.
LOL You must not have been playing this game to long.. Not a to long time ago they actually took ECM down a notch.. A falcon was very easily able to jam 4 and five targets from 100+ kms.. SO trust me it can be waaayyy worse |
maCH'EttE
Mafia Redux Phobia.
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Posted - 2013.07.14 18:28:00 -
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Gary Bell wrote:maCH'EttE wrote:Phaade wrote:Lately, I've been noticing a lot of what I consider to be not only pathetic, but just plain broken.
All forms of ewar, aside from ECM, are simple debuffs to certain aspects of your ship, and can usually be managed in a fight. ECM can not.
I am 50% into the structure of my target and his pal whilst soloing, and he lands his jackass falcon alt. Yay, perma jammed, fights over, I literally can do nothing but watch my ship blow up.
Anyone else see a problem with this? There are plenty of things that Ewar should do aside from break your lock, which is essentially a 20 second and spammable "stun."
Makes Soloing in PvP a lot less fun. Did you just come to this conclusion. ECM OP! Instead of people at ccp playing with mods no one really cares for and ships(haulers) no one really gives two s****t's about, they should put their thinking cap on and figure a way of making ecm of any and every kind alittle lest OP, even better, take it out of the damn fuc**** game. Love it when you get perma jammed over 80+km, its like, okay okay, let me pull my draws down and let you have a go at me. LOL You must not have been playing this game to long.. Not a to long time ago they actually took ECM down a notch.. A falcon was very easily able to jam 4 and five targets from 100+ kms.. SO trust me it can be waaayyy worse Been playing this game long enough, no one is talking how it use to be, and how it use to be and how it is now, are basicly the same thing. ECM still OP.
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Phaade
Debitum Naturae WHY so Seri0Us
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Posted - 2013.07.14 19:00:00 -
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LOL You must not have been playing this game to long.. Not a to long time ago they actually took ECM down a notch.. A falcon was very easily able to jam 4 and five targets from 100+ kms.. SO trust me it can be waaayyy worse[/quote]
Right, but in no way does that justify it. |
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Phaade
Debitum Naturae WHY so Seri0Us
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Posted - 2013.07.14 19:01:00 -
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Hells Merc wrote:Phaade wrote:Arec Bardwin wrote:How do you know it was his alt? Cuz it was the same name with the number 2 at the end of it it lol. Naaaa he could probably hear you whining in local......... perfectly natural response for a neutral to come jam you.....
DERP goes the troll |
Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
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Posted - 2013.07.14 19:04:00 -
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Didn't you get the memo? Solo PvP is dead! Post with your main, like a BOSS! |
Elizabeth Aideron
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.14 19:15:00 -
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sorry about your honourable space duel :-( |
bloodknight2
Talledega Knights PLEASE NOT VIOLENCE OUR BOATS
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Posted - 2013.07.14 19:18:00 -
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Bring 2 falcon alt with you. |
Kult Altol
Confederation Navy Research Epsilon Fleet
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Posted - 2013.07.14 20:25:00 -
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Thought this thread was talking about CCP falcon....left disappointed. Can't wait untill when Eve online is Freemium. WiS only 10$, SP booster for one month 15$, DPS Boost 2$, EHP Boost 2$ Real money trading hub! Cosmeitic ship skins 15$ --> If you don't pay for a product, you ARE the product. |
Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
2275
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Posted - 2013.07.14 20:34:00 -
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Phaade wrote:Lately, I've been noticing a lot of what I consider to be not only pathetic, but just plain broken.
All forms of ewar, aside from ECM, are simple debuffs to certain aspects of your ship, and can usually be managed in a fight. ECM can not.
I am 50% into the structure of my target and his pal whilst soloing, and he lands his jackass falcon alt. Yay, perma jammed, fights over, I literally can do nothing but watch my ship blow up.
Anyone else see a problem with this? There are plenty of things that Ewar should do aside from break your lock, which is essentially a 20 second and spammable "stun."
Makes Soloing in PvP a lot less fun.
I don't see a problem here at all.
If you had been in a drone boat using sentry drones the Falcon would have been:
a) Useless b) Dead, if he didn't bail out in a timely fashion.
ECM stops vessels that rely on maintaining a lock from combat, but saying ECM can't be managed in a fight is absolutely wrong. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.07.14 20:40:00 -
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How would the result have been any different if he had brought in an alt in some other ship? Talos would have killed you, Logi would have let him kill you, Curse would have neuted you, etc. So the fact that it's a Falcon is irrelevant.
Flying solo comes at the risk of being outnumbered. You learned this today. Prepare better next time. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Jimmy Morane
Aurora Novae Aetatis Expoit This Mf's
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Posted - 2013.07.14 20:40:00 -
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I do not have a Falcon alt. I prefer my Atropos alt.
She's hawt.
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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
621
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Posted - 2013.07.14 20:43:00 -
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What is this alt thingy? I have an ALT and ALT GR keys on my keyboard, is that easy mode? |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
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Posted - 2013.07.14 20:47:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:How would the result have been any different if he had brought in an alt in some other ship? Talos would have killed you, Logi would have let him kill you, Curse would have neuted you, etc. So the fact that it's a Falcon is irrelevant.
Flying solo comes at the risk of being outnumbered. You learned this today. Prepare better next time.
That hit the nail straight on the head. There are 2 solution to solve this. Bring your own alt OR bring a friend. The friend is the super duper solution because then you don't even have to micromanage 2 ships. You can keep doing what you ususally do and the other ship has something controling it without any inputs coming from you. It's basicly like hacking except there is nothing illegal about it and it gives you someone to talk to during your roam while you are looking for targts.
Super duper OP I tell you. |
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Jasmine Assasin
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.14 20:52:00 -
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Anybody that plays EVE solo and expects to win should be running missions (!)
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Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
2275
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Posted - 2013.07.14 20:52:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:RubyPorto wrote:How would the result have been any different if he had brought in an alt in some other ship? Talos would have killed you, Logi would have let him kill you, Curse would have neuted you, etc. So the fact that it's a Falcon is irrelevant.
Flying solo comes at the risk of being outnumbered. You learned this today. Prepare better next time. That hit the nail straight on the head. There are 2 solution to solve this. Bring your own alt OR bring a friend. The friend is the super duper solution because then you don't even have to micromanage 2 ships. You can keep doing what you ususally do and the other ship has something controling it without any inputs coming from you. It's basicly like hacking except there is nothing illegal about it and it gives you someone to talk to during your roam while you are looking for targts. Super duper OP I tell you. More to the point, one Falcon is not the "I win!" button it is consistently made out to be here.
In all honesty, I think that the Falcon and Rook could use a minor buff to their EHP.
I should mention that I hate Caldari, so you can count on this being an extremely conservative viewpoint. I loathe the thought of buffing Caldari anything, but there you go. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
621
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Posted - 2013.07.14 20:53:00 -
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Jasmine Assasin wrote:Anybody that plays EVE solo and expects to win should be running missions (!)
This just in, I already won. |
Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
2275
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Posted - 2013.07.14 20:55:00 -
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Miilla wrote:Jasmine Assasin wrote:Anybody that plays EVE solo and expects to win should be running missions (!) This just in, I already won. OOOH OOOOOOH! Angel Extravaganza for the 1,048,576th time!
Did you remember to blow up the thing and scoop the Skill Hardwiring?!?
Of course you did... He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
563
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:10:00 -
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Miilla wrote:Jasmine Assasin wrote:Anybody that plays EVE solo and expects to win should be running missions (!) This just in, I already won.
You unsubbed? |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
622
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:10:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:Miilla wrote:Jasmine Assasin wrote:Anybody that plays EVE solo and expects to win should be running missions (!) This just in, I already won. OOOH OOOOOOH! Angel Extravaganza for the 1,048,576th time! Did you remember to blow up the thing and scoop the Skill Hardwiring?!? Of course you did...
More like Angel Exageration.
Drama queen much? |
Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
2277
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:36:00 -
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Miilla wrote:Darth Gustav wrote:Miilla wrote:Jasmine Assasin wrote:Anybody that plays EVE solo and expects to win should be running missions (!) This just in, I already won. OOOH OOOOOOH! Angel Extravaganza for the 1,048,576th time! Did you remember to blow up the thing and scoop the Skill Hardwiring?!? Of course you did... More like Angel Exageration. Drama queen much? Huh?
That was me being friendly.
If you want drama though, that's in a different forum. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
Phaade
Debitum Naturae WHY so Seri0Us
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:37:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:Phaade wrote:Lately, I've been noticing a lot of what I consider to be not only pathetic, but just plain broken.
All forms of ewar, aside from ECM, are simple debuffs to certain aspects of your ship, and can usually be managed in a fight. ECM can not.
I am 50% into the structure of my target and his pal whilst soloing, and he lands his jackass falcon alt. Yay, perma jammed, fights over, I literally can do nothing but watch my ship blow up.
Anyone else see a problem with this? There are plenty of things that Ewar should do aside from break your lock, which is essentially a 20 second and spammable "stun."
Makes Soloing in PvP a lot less fun. I don't see a problem here at all. If you had been in a drone boat using sentry drones the Falcon would have been: a) Useless b) Dead, if he didn't bail out in a timely fashion. ECM stops vessels that rely on maintaining a lock from combat, but saying ECM can't be managed in a fight is absolutely wrong.
You're right, the falcon only counters 97% of ships, not EVERY one. And no, it can't be managed without that particular ship and that particular setup. Better have the sentries out and not the hammerheads (or whatever).
Saying that I should have a specific ship, with a specific drone is hardly a reasonable response. Add the fact that my drones stick to current target, and I can't tell them to switch without locking a target (yes, i could have put them on the Falcon if i reacted fast enough) makes your argument even weaker.
It's particularly irritating when he simply logs on the falcon; his alt was not in local.
You don't see the obvious shenanigans involved in this situation? ECM is not cool man, it's not cool. All other ewar (including neuts) are far cooler / more reasonable than ECM.
Alas, the threads are full of "DEAL WITH IT" instead of discussing any sort of true... balance, for lack of a better word. |
Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
2277
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:43:00 -
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Phaade wrote:Darth Gustav wrote:Phaade wrote:Lately, I've been noticing a lot of what I consider to be not only pathetic, but just plain broken.
All forms of ewar, aside from ECM, are simple debuffs to certain aspects of your ship, and can usually be managed in a fight. ECM can not.
I am 50% into the structure of my target and his pal whilst soloing, and he lands his jackass falcon alt. Yay, perma jammed, fights over, I literally can do nothing but watch my ship blow up.
Anyone else see a problem with this? There are plenty of things that Ewar should do aside from break your lock, which is essentially a 20 second and spammable "stun."
Makes Soloing in PvP a lot less fun. I don't see a problem here at all. If you had been in a drone boat using sentry drones the Falcon would have been: a) Useless b) Dead, if he didn't bail out in a timely fashion. ECM stops vessels that rely on maintaining a lock from combat, but saying ECM can't be managed in a fight is absolutely wrong. You're right, the falcon only counters 97% of ships, not EVERY one. And no, it can't be managed without that particular ship and that particular setup. Better have the sentries out and not the hammerheads (or whatever). Saying that I should have a specific ship, with a specific drone is hardly a reasonable response. Add the fact that my drones stick to current target, and I can't tell them to switch without locking a target (yes, i could have put them on the Falcon if i reacted fast enough) makes your argument even weaker. It's particularly irritating when he simply logs on the falcon; his alt was not in local. You don't see the obvious shenanigans involved in this situation? ECM is not cool man, it's not cool. All other ewar (including neuts) are far cooler / more reasonable than ECM. Alas, the threads are full of "DEAL WITH IT" instead of discussing any sort of true... balance, for lack of a better word.
Any ship with a MJD can also elude the Falcon, even if you're pointed. You're still wrong about mitigating ECM, even if you (mostly) understand drone mechanics. If your sentries kept shooting their primary target despite you being jammed, as you described in the OP, how exactly would you have died to a solo Falcon? When he was the only one left aggressing you, what would happen to him if he'd stayed on field?
Falcons are PAPER THIN. Put an alt on the field too, but make it a DPS alt. The Falcon isn't an "I win!" button. Sorry. He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.07.14 21:46:00 -
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Friends are Overpowered. Nerf Friends. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
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