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Dust Flasher
Aeos Dawn
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:51:00 -
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Heya guys! I am looking for a nice 4-5bill ( max isk i can give ) nightamre fit that can run all c4 sites solo . And i dont really care if they are cap stable or not , with boosters or not. :D
Thank You Very Much For Your Attention ,
With LOVE , Dusty ^^ |
Winthorp
Van Diemen's Demise Northern Coalition.
158
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:56:00 -
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Ohh dear. |
Dust Flasher
Aeos Dawn
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Posted - 2013.07.15 21:57:00 -
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Whats Wrong?
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Dust Flasher
Aeos Dawn
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Posted - 2013.07.15 22:01:00 -
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I am sorry for the grammar mistakes , if those are the problem . It's 3 am in my country atm. |
John Wolfsson
BAND of MAGNUS
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Posted - 2013.07.15 23:53:00 -
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uff , this is very bad idea for two reasons minimally ...
1. i really doubt that nightmare is able to tank C4 anomaly solo
2. 4-5b nightmare is really juicy target and for hunters is very easy to find & kill you (precautions like scout is not absolute , humans make mistakes etc. ) , battleship is easy to probe out - Rel , Dat sites or simply wait and find you on anomaly , you have long align time too , so T3 covops has a good chance to decloak wait 5 sec , target and scram you ( ofc bumping work too)
so this idea is reckless and stupid , but if you have a lot of iskies , why not , wormholers needs new targets :) |
Korvus Falek
Depraved Corruption Space Wolves Alliance
71
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Posted - 2013.07.16 01:07:00 -
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Ill fit you up one. Not very shiny except the shield booster. Shiny it up for better stats, add in crystal implants to go above 2k dps tank with this fitting. Drones are preference, 75m3 bay for them. Id suggest a flight of mediums and a flight of small ecm's, just in case. Add in fleet boosts and it gets exponentially higher.
Not cap stable at all, lasts about a minute or two even if you have something to nos from, but since you dont care as mentioned in OP, meh.
Without Drones; 730 dps with scorch, 50 km optimal 916 dps with INMF, 17km optimal
124-ish EHP 1438 dps tank 75.9 / 70 / 72.8 / 77.4
[Nightmare, c4] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Tracking Enhancer II Damage Control II
Large Shield Extender II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II EM Ward Field II Shield Boost Amplifier II Shield Boost Amplifier II Pith A-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I
Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Large Core Defense Field Extender I Large Core Defense Field Extender I |
Arazel Chainfire
Sons Of 0din The Unthinkables
207
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Posted - 2013.07.16 01:07:00 -
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First - you can afford 3-4 bil. How many times can you afford 3-4 bil? Because a solo nightmare is going to get destroyed, either by sleepers or by players.
Second - neuts. Sleepers use them. And the nightmares base cap amount isn't able to run its guns alone, much less guns and a booster. You need a minimum of about 1200dps tank to be able to tank a C4 - 15-1600 for radars/mags. A logi cruiser (90m sig) can get by with only 700, if it has the cap to run it. Basically the only ships that can selftank C4 sites are capitals, ASB vargur/golems, possibly a rattlesnake, and a tengu. There is no way that a nightmare can manage the cap to run a C4 and self tank it.
To give you are more exact idea, the minimum that I've heard of anyone running a C4 without a vargur/tengu/capital was 2 ships, one dps ship with cap transfers and one logi ship to keep it alive. This can be done with a nightmare/basi pair, with the nightmare being a cap buddy and doing dps, while the basi can be set up to permatank the site and permarep the nightmare. However, this still leads to slow site completion times, in the range of 40+ min with excelent skills, which is a lot of time vulnerable. |
Korvus Falek
Depraved Corruption Space Wolves Alliance
71
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Posted - 2013.07.16 01:11:00 -
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Arazel Chainfire wrote:First - you can afford 3-4 bil. How many times can you afford 3-4 bil? Because a solo nightmare is going to get destroyed, either by sleepers or by players.
Second - neuts. Sleepers use them. And the nightmares base cap amount isn't able to run its guns alone, much less guns and a booster. You need a minimum of about 1200dps tank to be able to tank a C4 - 15-1600 for radars/mags. A logi cruiser (90m sig) can get by with only 700, if it has the cap to run it. Basically the only ships that can selftank C4 sites are capitals, ASB vargur/golems, possibly a rattlesnake, and a tengu. There is no way that a nightmare can manage the cap to run a C4 and self tank it.
To give you are more exact idea, the minimum that I've heard of anyone running a C4 without a vargur/tengu/capital was 2 ships, one dps ship with cap transfers and one logi ship to keep it alive. This can be done with a nightmare/basi pair, with the nightmare being a cap buddy and doing dps, while the basi can be set up to permatank the site and permarep the nightmare. However, this still leads to slow site completion times, in the range of 40+ min with excelent skills, which is a lot of time vulnerable.
My fitting, while not purely soloable (will need cap xfers) can run all the sites with the dps you suggested; if he shinies it up or even just adds in a set of HG crystals.
No comment for the timeline, but 40 minutes seems like a lifetime to me. And I live in a c4. |
Winthorp
Van Diemen's Demise Northern Coalition.
159
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Posted - 2013.07.16 01:18:00 -
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Korvus Falek wrote: add in crystal implants to go above 2k dps tank with this fitting
Please give more advice like this i have a few M Guristas LP yet to cash out. :) |
Korvus Falek
Depraved Corruption Space Wolves Alliance
71
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Posted - 2013.07.16 01:23:00 -
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Winthorp wrote:Korvus Falek wrote: add in crystal implants to go above 2k dps tank with this fitting Please give more advice like this i have a few M Guristas LP yet to cash out. :)
Anything for an NC. friend =P |
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Jack Miton
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
2151
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Posted - 2013.07.16 02:22:00 -
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I think eve needs an EFT tutorial... |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
1541
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Posted - 2013.07.16 05:25:00 -
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Arazel Chainfire wrote:First - you can afford 3-4 bil. How many times can you afford 3-4 bil? Because a solo nightmare is going to get destroyed, either by sleepers or by players.
Second - neuts. Sleepers use them. And the nightmares base cap amount isn't able to run its guns alone, much less guns and a booster. You need a minimum of about 1200dps tank to be able to tank a C4 - 15-1600 for radars/mags. A logi cruiser (90m sig) can get by with only 700, if it has the cap to run it. Basically the only ships that can selftank C4 sites are capitals, ASB vargur/golems, possibly a rattlesnake, and a tengu. There is no way that a nightmare can manage the cap to run a C4 and self tank it.
To give you are more exact idea, the minimum that I've heard of anyone running a C4 without a vargur/tengu/capital was 2 ships, one dps ship with cap transfers and one logi ship to keep it alive. This can be done with a nightmare/basi pair, with the nightmare being a cap buddy and doing dps, while the basi can be set up to permatank the site and permarep the nightmare. However, this still leads to slow site completion times, in the range of 40+ min with excelent skills, which is a lot of time vulnerable.
While the solo nightmare is just a bad idea, C4 sites can be completed with dual Tengu's WAAAAAY faster than 40 min. |
Lloyd Roses
Blue-Fire Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
122
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Posted - 2013.07.16 07:36:00 -
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When going with a nightmare for solo C4, desperately needs a MJD, 2 faction smartbombs against frigates (orbiting at almost 8km) and a cap booster.
Warp site, jump down amongst the sentries, smartbomb frigs, kill sentries and doze over those other sleepers. Siege Links help you a lot at saving cap boosters, else you got to refill your hold a lot. I only correct my own spelling. |
Oska Rus
Free Ice Cream People
21
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Posted - 2013.07.16 10:22:00 -
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I suggest you put one bil aside and train for it second account with basilisk and your problem is solved :D. |
Icarus Able
Traverse Holdings
38
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Posted - 2013.07.16 14:34:00 -
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Simple answer is no you cant make a Nightmare do C4 sites. Even if you can get the peak tank high enough. Noway is it gonna have the sustained tank to do them.It may work for one or two but then that scramming frig will keep you held down for just long enough for you to go pop. |
Archdaimon
NorCorp Enterprise No Holes Barred
208
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Posted - 2013.07.16 15:40:00 -
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Prove all these haters wrong - and go for x-type shield stuff, they give the best resist. Wormholes have the best accoustics. It's known. - Sing it for me - |
Ravnik
Choke-Hold
9415
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Posted - 2013.07.18 08:15:00 -
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Our corp would be happy to help you with your nightmare. Once you have it set up, send me a mail, give us your location, and we will come and make the necessary tweaks to improve your ship.
No...honestly we will.............. The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long - and you have burned so very, very brightly.......... |
Keith Planck
League of Extraordinary Equines
507
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Posted - 2013.07.21 06:45:00 -
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Duel x-Large Ancillary + offgrid booster + pulsar and you can do it in a cheap nightmare.
There really isn't a way to do nightmares or any faction battleships in c4s without at LEAST a maxed out offgrid booster.
I used to do C4s in a 1400 duel XLASB machariel for lulz, but it wasn't very efficient, you really have to be on your A-Game. |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1301
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Posted - 2013.07.23 16:43:00 -
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this will end well.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
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