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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.07.21 15:16:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Tippia, I've been an amateur Obviously.
It doesn't change the fact that EVE uses any Hubble imagery, or the fact that space is pretty darn spectacular just using its own colours. Not even your long-winded and (still as) irrelevant strawman will change thisGǪ but then, that's kind of the nature of fallacies.
You're not telling me anything new, you knowGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Naraish Adarn
Fastfood for Fishies
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Posted - 2013.07.21 15:20:00 -
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i have to admit flambeing you wouldnt be sufficient. so how about tar and feathers instead |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.07.21 15:23:00 -
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000Hunter000 wrote:Would be tempting if they let us bomb Azeroth from space! Kind of like this?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Velarra
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Posted - 2013.07.21 15:37:00 -
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Eve crossed with WoW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTGDpUg3CHY&feature=player_detailpage#t=24s |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
483
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Posted - 2013.07.21 15:51:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Tippia, I've been an amateur Obviously.
Tippia debating "skills" in all it's color..
Tippia wrote:It doesn't change the fact that EVE uses any Hubble imagery
Why Tippia you really need to move along, because the very fact EvE is using the same color scheme for Oxygen III photo filter that NASA used on it's images to represent the same bandwidth....Yeah, CCP's artists used the exact same representation to represent the exact same pillar features in it's own images and more.
And Tippia you don't even "get it".
It's like a watermarking an image. That color doesn't even exist, it only exists due to the Photoshopper at NASA adding it in...and CCP's artists just picked it up and photo manipulated the images WITH THE EXACT COLOR SCHEME (you can still see what it really represented).
The CCP artists didn't understand, it's false-color and represents nothing really.
You don't understand the color doesn't exist. As Oxygen III photo filter just adjusts the contrast of the objects in the photo...color isn't even represented by that filter. Just like your contrast/brightness buttons on your monitor.
Adjust the contrast of a gray image, what color do you see?
What is EvE? Space 4chan?
"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Marmaduke Hatplate
Abercrombie and Smith
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Posted - 2013.07.21 15:52:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Tippia wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote:Classic example of Tippia, again, not understanding what she's talking about. You mean like the fact that EVE uses any Hubble imagery, false-colour or otherwise? You mean like the fact that space is pretty darn spectacular just using its own colours? Oh sorry, you were going off on some irrelevant and tangential strawman? I didn't mean to interrupt you or ruin your point with factsGǪ GǪbut it kind of just happened anyway. Tippia, I've been an amateur astronomer for decades now, and before CCD astrophotography (the bad old days of gas-hyping film). Space does not have it's own "colours" (hmmm) beyond what the human eye can see (and since the universe as we define it is by a human perspective, the universe will be seen from a human POV). The hocus pocus of the base color of the universe was for show, we couldn't even see it naturally that way.Any other color representation is false-colored because humans can't tell the difference -- and photo filters are even needed to tease out the details (why the Hubble images used false colors anyway). Oxygen III is a classic filter to do just that, especially in nebulas with a lot of dust and radiation (like the M16 pillars, it would be washed out by the background radiation otherwise). It's no different than in Photoshop, when doing color separation in CYMK / RGB or LAB formats. Astrophotography filters operate much the same, and when each bandwidth is separated it can be given it's own color. Then, like in Photoshop, the color separated images are recombined into a false-color representation. It looks very pretty. But it's not real. It's false-color. Naturally, celestials in space is mostly seen by humans as gray, with some white light highlights (Orion nebula is a classic example of a nebulae that can be seen and appreciated without any photo filters). Nebulas like the classic Hubble Eagle nebula is seen in red light by the eye naturally, and it's contrast is brought out nicely by the hydrogen-alpha color filter (and why the M16 photos before Hubble was soooo red!). There's no blue/green there (typical false-color for Oxygen III in NASA Hubble photos). Enjoy the fantasy and what fantasy offers, as science is harsher than space itself!
But isn't everything we see just a product if different wavelengths of light hitting our cones and rods etc?
In pitch darkness, every cat is black and all that. Without light, nothing has a colour. If you wear a pair of commando night vision goggles, you're not going 'ooh, things aren't really green, Imm not having this!', are you?
And when we look at our monitors, we're obviously not seeing through our avatars eyes, unless my character is being dragged behind his ship on a giant elastic band. The only in game rationale I can find for me being able to view the ship I'm inside from a distance of 100km away is that I'm viewing it via a feed from a camera probe orbiting my ship, controlled from my cockpit. And that feed is altered by computers to make it easier for us to perform our space duties. We need to be able to differentiate stuff in order to act on it successfully. The hud gives me a targeting reticule, and likewise it colours space stuff to aid my interaction with it.
You've missed the point with your talk about 'space is not colourful'.
As for the OP: no thanks. Wow is terrible.
"Friends and fun...The only 2 really important things in EVE Online." - Crazy Dutch Guy |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.07.21 15:58:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Why Tippia you really need to move along, because the very fact EvE is using the same color scheme GǪdoesn't change the fact that EVE doesn't use Hubble images, or the fact that space is pretty darn spectacular just using its own colours.
Quote:And Tippia you don't even get it. Yes I do. So much so that, unlike you, I got that it is an irrelevant tangential strawman that you keep want to drag me onto. Maybe it's not intentional and you can't even see it yourself, but that doesn't change the fact of what you're doing.
You can keep yammering on about how much I supposedly don't know or understand, but it's not actually true and you're not telling me anything new. All you're doing is repeating something irrelevant because you are under the misapprehension that your point wasn't understood when in reality, it justGǪ wellGǪ wasn't relevant. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
483
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Posted - 2013.07.21 16:05:00 -
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Marmaduke Hatplate wrote:But isn't everything we see just a product if different wavelengths of light hitting our cones and rods etc?
In this case -- the aqua blues that look so pretty in that M16 Hubble photo -- was added for effect only.
Oxygen III filter (which that aqua color represented) isn't even a color...it's a contrast filter.
So, seeing it in EvE, with the same nebulosity features, is a Hubble false-color representation of the universe.
Doesn't exist at all in science fact. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Marmaduke Hatplate
Abercrombie and Smith
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Posted - 2013.07.21 17:58:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:Marmaduke Hatplate wrote:But isn't everything we see just a product if different wavelengths of light hitting our cones and rods etc? In this case -- the aqua blues that look so pretty in that M16 Hubble photo -- was added for effect only. Oxygen III filter (which that aqua color represented) isn't even a color... it's a contrast filter. So, seeing it in EvE, with the same nebulosity features, is a Hubble false-color representation of the universe. Doesn't exist at all in science fact.
So? What's your point? "Friends and fun...The only 2 really important things in EVE Online." - Crazy Dutch Guy |
Shedemei Silfar
Kid's Logistics Inc
75
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Posted - 2013.07.21 20:16:00 -
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<-- Can't figure out why anyone is even seriously discussing said troll's post, let alone getting bent over space colors.
Grats tho, on getting useless trivia/board warrior to V.
............wanders off to blow up more internet spaceships |
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Starkiller Lothlorien
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
48
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Posted - 2013.07.21 22:07:00 -
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Wow only good for werewolf ERP. No need for that in Eve. OP got head on wrong way round. Wow need space, get off planet, not eve need Orks.
Hubble cool however. Brian Cox sexy Brit Scientist (not fat actor play Hannibal Lector) say Hubble cool and he know supernova from backside. Ace blather blabla make no sense as usual. Shame on him, should know better.
Soup lady here.
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Vortexo VonBrenner
Coldest Sea Sailing
815
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Posted - 2013.07.21 22:28:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote: Doesn't exist at all in science fact.
Umm...as is the case with many things in this game - so what? *shrug* Enjoy the game...or don't w/e...
LOL! Oh my. WoW avatars dancing? It's a nightmare for some EVE players...I'm definitely going to save that and use it bug some people sometime! For some reason it occurs to me how glad I am I never played WoW...
Ace Uoweme wrote: Loving these threads, because it shows one thing clear in EvE: the gameplay is so boring that WoW *is* the only thing left to talk about .
I'm sorry EVE is boring for you. Hopefully your game becomes more interesting for you. Huh...haven't really noticed most EVE players talking about WoW much...perhaps the standard "GB2W" kind of thing, but not much else....mostly...then there is this post...oh no...what have I done...
I'm listening to-áBj+¦rk, playing EVE, eating fishsticks, and I'm cold....this is immersion gaming. |
lollerwaffle
Clandestine Vector THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2013.07.23 03:04:00 -
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Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:Ace Uoweme wrote: Loving these threads, because it shows one thing clear in EvE: the gameplay is so boring that WoW *is* the only thing left to talk about .
I'm sorry EVE is boring for you. Hopefully your game becomes more interesting for you. Huh...haven't really noticed most EVE players talking about WoW much...perhaps the standard "GB2W" kind of thing, but not much else....mostly...then there is this post...oh no...what have I done... Actually, WoW is Ace's favourite topic of discussion on these forums. Check out his/her/its posting history, nearly every single post tries to reference WoW or some other game. |
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