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Kattalist
Sourced
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Posted - 2013.07.20 05:56:00 -
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After being fairly inactive for some time, I decided I wanted to play EVE tonight, and stream it on Twitch. I was running level 4 missions in my Paladin (Amarr Marauder) and decided it would be great to try and tank a more-risky-than-I-remember-it mission. Long story short, got scrammed and lost said Paladin, for a total loss of around 1.2B ISK. (was able to scoop the wreck)
So, some tips to newer players! Even though mission running becomes a mundane chore in a more expensive ship, it pays to always be aware and know about the mission you are running. Things can easily surprise you, especially if you haven't played for a while or are new. But, it's important not to get frustrated if this happens to you. EVE is a game of risk, and that's why I continue to love it till this day, even if I am horrible at it.
Now for the fun part! Twitch Video of Loss! Killmail Link! |
Quontor Zarrkos
Pwn 'N Play Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2013.07.20 10:29:00 -
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You trained a marauder but never trained overloading? Or did you just forget you could overload your rack of lows for about ~50% more tank to kill those last drone frigates that were pointing you? What drones were you using? |
hmskrecik
TransMine Group German Information Network Alliance
90
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Posted - 2013.07.20 10:41:00 -
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The main mistake you made was at about 5:00 when you popped all trigger ships at once. Full spawn can overwhelm about any single ship and I believe eve-survival also mentioned to keep spawns under control.
That said, this mission can be done in balls-deep way. For that you require propulsion and floor it since the beginning and keep both distance and angular/transversal speed as high as possible.
Couple of random remarks: - well trained marauder can lock 10 targets simultaneously, you locked initial spawn and started locking other ships only after killing this one; - target priorities, tacklers first, obviously, but with high dps ship the Paladin is you should focus your guns on killing those who hurt you the most - battlehips in this case; - yeah, like Qunotor said, when ***** hit air conditioning, you overload. |
Tsukino Stareine
The Red Circle Inc.
529
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Posted - 2013.07.20 11:26:00 -
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How to LOSE
godamnit.
Start investing in better drone skills. |
Arec Bardwin
1004
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Posted - 2013.07.20 11:30:00 -
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Well done! You spent all that time checking the eve-survival mission report, and still did just about everything wrong
I guess somone must be losing all those marauders sold every day, and this is a fine example how. |
Tsukino Stareine
The Red Circle Inc.
529
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Posted - 2013.07.20 11:34:00 -
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also, pulse paladin with no scorch in hold =S? |
DSpite Culhach
Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance
133
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Posted - 2013.07.20 12:13:00 -
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Micro Jump Drives still activate when NPC ships have a scram on you don't they? I suddenly woke up thinking I had a nightmare, then remembered I can't even fly Amarr Battleships. I add bits to this when I'm bored https://www.dropbox.com/s/foijsawsqolarom/EVE_Online.html |
Tsukino Stareine
The Red Circle Inc.
530
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Posted - 2013.07.20 12:18:00 -
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DSpite Culhach wrote:Micro Jump Drives still activate when NPC ships have a scram on you don't they?
yes but he was afterburner fit |
Q 5
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
121
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Posted - 2013.07.20 13:01:00 -
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And they say missions are risk free, yes they can become routine but if you make mistakes or as in his case been gone and missed some changes you can lose that shiny real fast.
Well now I don't feel so bad when I lost my Drake to a scrambling NPC in the blockade mission, ouch a marauder.
Thanks for sharing and showing. |
Gimme more Cynos
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
60
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Posted - 2013.07.20 18:56:00 -
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I loled.
Especially as he said that "DPS is not that high, I should've been able to tank it".. Yeah, right, tank 1k dps in that pally..
Also - Cheap fit. Could've been worse. |
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
315
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Posted - 2013.07.20 20:28:00 -
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most of the time at least one of the strain frigs will point you, I try to kill them asap. plus if you had an overloaded fed navy web you probably could have webbed one of them down and killed it with your guns as it approached you.
and with that hardener setup you probably would have been better off with 2x IN EANM and a Damage control.
also I much prefer tachyons, as nearly the whole time all the NPC battleships were out of your mulifrequency range.
and for whatever reason warrior IIs feel useless in pve. I should probably log their actual performance at some point ah well I'm lazy. You can trust me, I have a monocole |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
1570
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Posted - 2013.07.21 00:29:00 -
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If your Marauder is loose then you should tighten it up a bit. Ammatar - Matari by blood, Ammarian by the Grace of God. |
Tauranon
Weeesearch
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Posted - 2013.07.21 01:14:00 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:most of the time at least one of the strain frigs will point you, I try to kill them asap. plus if you had an overloaded fed navy web you probably could have webbed one of them down and killed it with your guns as it approached you.
and with that hardener setup you probably would have been better off with 2x IN EANM and a Damage control.
also I much prefer tachyons, as nearly the whole time all the NPC battleships were out of your mulifrequency range.
and for whatever reason warrior IIs feel useless in pve. I should probably log their actual performance at some point ah well I'm lazy.
Many strain frigates have 85% explosive resistance on their shields and armor. Its 79% to thermal, but bear in mind that the difference 79% to 85% is far more meaningful than the difference of 0% to 6%, and hobgobbies do more damage (if in doubt thermal drones are always reasonable).
The ideal way of clearing them is lasers or curators at range.
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Johan Toralen
IIIJIIIITIIII
198
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Posted - 2013.07.21 01:45:00 -
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That was amusing to watch. A while ago i almost lost a Machariel in this mission after doing the exact same mistake. |
Shadowfoot
White Trash Mafia. No Effin' Clue
0
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Posted - 2013.07.21 01:46:00 -
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thats why you should be using a tengu. i always lol at threads who is trying to do lvl4 mission with 160dps tank |
Gimme more Cynos
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
60
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Posted - 2013.07.21 08:35:00 -
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Shadowfoot wrote:thats why you should be using a tengu. i always lol at threads who is trying to do lvl4 mission with 160dps tank
Yeah, use a Tengu .. a blaster one ofc, cause missile tengus are crap for Lv 4.
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Tsukino Stareine
The Red Circle Inc.
535
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Posted - 2013.07.21 10:07:00 -
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Shadowfoot wrote:thats why you should be using a tengu. i always lol at threads who is trying to do lvl4 mission with 160dps tank
I would rather complete missions before I fall asleep |
Gimme more Cynos
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
60
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Posted - 2013.07.21 10:49:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:Shadowfoot wrote:thats why you should be using a tengu. i always lol at threads who is trying to do lvl4 mission with 160dps tank I would rather complete missions before I fall asleep
^ this |
Tobias Hareka
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2013.07.21 11:38:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:Shadowfoot wrote:thats why you should be using a tengu. i always lol at threads who is trying to do lvl4 mission with 160dps tank I would rather complete missions before I fall asleep
Try deadspace fitted Dramiel. I'm sure you don't fall asleep.
Only downside is that eating popcorn and watching movies is a bit more difficult. |
Tsukino Stareine
The Red Circle Inc.
535
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Posted - 2013.07.21 11:53:00 -
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I did lots of level 4s in a sentry myrm with a 200 dps tank, only one I couldnt handle was angel extra bonus room |
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Zor'katar
Matari Recreation
135
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Posted - 2013.07.21 14:09:00 -
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This is a fine and useful post. Because of that, though I'm usually happy to let people have their way with the English language, I'm with Tsukino and Katran here. Pretty please take an 'o' out of 'loose' in the thread title? |
Gustav Mannfred
the bring back canflipping corp
65
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Posted - 2013.07.21 15:29:00 -
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i had almost lost a astarte in the mission stop the thief. It was blasterfitted with gistum a-type mwd and about 1b off other stuff. i had 2 therm and 1 kin harder and i warped out in 10% hull.
and about your paladin fit: use tachyons, they do more damage over range. but you will need to replace the ab with a 2nd tracking computer. and i prefer the use of nosses more then capboosters, replace the tractorbeams and salvager with nosses. youre faster at looting with a noctis (more tractorbeamrange etc...) and you also have more cargo. i'm REALY miss the old stuff.-á
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=24183 |
Yuan Taizu
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Posted - 2013.07.21 15:29:00 -
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I was watching your stream, but I left before the loss. Tough break, man...and I'm pretty sure almost everyone here has lost something shiny in a L4 mission. I once lost a Proteus with a 500mil MAR strapped to it. |
Lipbite
Express Hauler
713
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Posted - 2013.07.22 14:32:00 -
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Couple years ago I lost Rattle with 1600+ DPS passive omni-tank in L4. Now after returning I use cheapest and "tankiest" battleship for a day or two until I'm sure I do everything right (usually it's Dominix). |
Jenna Walker
Arms Unlimited
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Posted - 2013.07.22 20:33:00 -
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op, i love how the fan in the background makes you look like a human helicopter.
as for your loss: it happens to all of us, we get tired, we don't pay attention, we kill the multi trigger and spawn 1,094 incoming dps |
Spankijs Omaristos
Asteria Imperative Tribal Band
9
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Posted - 2013.07.23 10:43:00 -
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It's funny to see a 1mil T2 rep on 1bil hull
But as lots of people above me posted, taclers/frigs always have to go down first:) |
Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
388
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Posted - 2013.07.23 18:20:00 -
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4:44 "cruiser wave first should be fairly simple...yeah"
5:24 "actually that's awful lot of dps"
Rofl http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KTjFEt6.jpg I dont always fly stabber but when i do...
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IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
133
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Posted - 2013.07.23 22:18:00 -
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To me it looks like this guy did it on purpose to make the video.
First he popped all the triggers right off the bat.
Then didn't even bother attacking the frigate scramming him till it was too late.
It was T2 fit with T1 rigs so other than the hull not a huge loss. I don't know about this guys wallet (I only saw the corp wallet in the vid) but to some a few bil is change. Especially if it gets him more viewers on Twitch. |
Mer88
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2013.08.22 06:04:00 -
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T2 armor repair lol i think theres your problem
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Maru Niffilen
United Trading Organisation
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Posted - 2013.08.22 11:35:00 -
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IIshira wrote:To me it looks like this guy did it on purpose to make the video.
First he popped all the triggers right off the bat.
Then didn't even bother attacking the frigate scramming him till it was too late.
It was T2 fit with T1 rigs so other than the hull not a huge loss. I don't know about this guys wallet (I only saw the corp wallet in the vid) but to some a few bil is change. Especially if it gets him more viewers on Twitch. This theory, omg. Are you Sherlock?
My only though was, this los is well-deserved. Even more when this char really has no Thermodynamics skill. |
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