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Jharii Tirar
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.22 17:05:00 -
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So that's not exactly true. I played back in 2006, but it didn't stick. But I decided to give it another shot, in part because there are a lot of similarities between EVE and the upcoming Star Citizen. Specifically, the economy; I love heavy economics as an underlying foundation to heavy games. EVE's complexity and sophistication with regards to economics is legendary.
First the abridged version: I had a blast!
Now, for the more detailed version with pros and cons. Keep in mind that these are merely first impressions. I have noticed that there are a lot of new players that are complaining about how long it takes to "ramp up" to do the things they want to do. I am not one of those people. I think the game and progression is fine as is. We all have to pay our dues, right? And there is plenty of fun stuff to do in the meantime.
Pros: - EVE is a game long and rich in history. It is evident when you first log in. The game is highly polished and greatly detailed. - People in the help channel were very friendly. This is VERY refreshing, which I am sure you are all aware of. Although, I only had to use it twice, and the second time around my question was ignored twice. Nonetheless, it's great to see mature and civil conversations without being exposed to another iteration of Barrens chat. - EVE is a visually stunning game. I spent much of my time playing in 3D as well, which was certainly an immersive experience. - There is a lot to do, even from an early stage. Once I figured out that it was okay to cut the umbilical cord, the universe pretty much opened up to me. - One thing that was nice is that even though I was learning the ropes, I had things to do WHILE I was learning the ropes. I could kick back and research skills while my Venture and drones were filling up my ore hold. I didn't feel like I was ever wasting time.
Cons: - A game with this much history is difficult to get up to speed on. I spent more time than I would have liked on the internet looking for answers to questions when that time could have been spent actually playing the game. - The gap between where the tutorials end and the game begins is rather "abrupt." Now, I love me a good sandbox, but that doesn't mean that a little direction should not be given. I mean, not even a breadcrumb. I finally figured it out, but it is very intimidating jumping in completely when you may want to just dip a toe in to test the waters. - The language barrier is a bit overwhelming. The tutorials should be modified to take into account a lot of the terminology and language that has developed over the 10 years of EVE's existence. - There is a lot to do (redundancy intended). So much so, in fact, that one can get the feeling that they will never have any true impact on the universe. As a new player, that can be a disheartening, because one of the reasons that we play MMO's is to take a break from reality and become something that we could never be in real life. I am not saying that a new player will never make an impact, just that this "feeling" is present early on. - Career paths are a bit ambiguous with regards to certifications. I wish to be an explorer with a dash of salvaging and mining, but I had a real hard time finding certifications that match up with this path. I am not saying they are not there, but just hard to discover as a new player, and thus, a bit hard to plot out. - Quest line repetition. Seriously, I completed Mountains from Molehills, only to have it set upon me again by another agent. With 10 years of existence, the quests directly after the tutorials could be a bit more fleshed out and diverse.
Suffice it to say, EVE is everything it's cracked up to be. It's obvious why it has been around for 10 years. I spent a lot more time playing it this weekend than I thought I would. Probably too much, actually.
As an aside, I am using Voice Attack, which takes verbal commands and runs the configured keyboard commands associated with them. Let me just say that it's both immersive and helpful when running EVE. There's something very awesome about shouting out "Engage!" to enable your autopilot. Beyond that, it's nice not having to hunt for the over-abundance of buttons and keyboard shortcuts. I HIGHLY recommend it, especially for new players.
I look forward to seeing you all amongst the stars!
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Mr. Orange
Band of Freelancers
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Posted - 2013.07.22 17:34:00 -
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Jharii Tirar wrote:So that's not exactly true.
I stopped reading there.
DO NOT LIE TO ME GOOD SIR!!!!
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Jharii Tirar
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.22 17:38:00 -
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Mr. Orange wrote:Jharii Tirar wrote:So that's not exactly true.
I stopped reading there. DO NOT LIE TO ME GOOD SIR!!!!
Technically, it probably is true. I don't think I made it through a full weekend my first go-around. :) |
Jimmy Morane
Aurora Novae Aetatis Expoit This Mf's
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Posted - 2013.07.22 18:00:00 -
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Ok ok so out with it already...what is it you want nerfed? |
Jharii Tirar
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.22 18:09:00 -
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Jimmy Morane wrote:Ok ok so out with it already...what is it you want nerfed?
Irrelevant forum responses? LOL. I jest.
To be honest, I don't get how some people are complaining so loudly after playing a game as complex as EVE for only a few days or even a few months. |
Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services Russian International Allegiance
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Posted - 2013.07.22 18:15:00 -
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Jharii Tirar wrote: To be honest, I don't get how some people are complaining so loudly after playing a game as complex as EVE for only a few days or even a few months.
To be honest, all you need to know is the name of a game. After that you are fully entitled to have an opinion about it on and off the internet.
That's not unlike real life ... especially but not limited to politics. Fling some mud, something always sticks.
Join the in-game channel 'The Greater Fool Bar' now.
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Jharii Tirar
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.22 18:23:00 -
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Jill Xelitras wrote:Jharii Tirar wrote: To be honest, I don't get how some people are complaining so loudly after playing a game as complex as EVE for only a few days or even a few months.
To be honest, all you need to know is the name of a game. After that you are fully entitled to have an opinion about it on and off the internet. That's not unlike real life ... especially but not limited to politics. Fling some mud, something always sticks.
"Entitled to" does not equate to "justified."
Now let's get back to being on topic. |
Echo Echoplex
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.22 18:31:00 -
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Jharii Tirar wrote: As an aside, I am using Voice Attack, which takes verbal commands and runs the configured keyboard commands associated with them. Let me just say that it's both immersive and helpful when running EVE. There's something very awesome about shouting out "Engage!" to enable your autopilot. Beyond that, it's nice not having to hunt for the over-abundance of buttons and keyboard shortcuts. I HIGHLY recommend it, especially for new players.
Welcome to Eve, fellow newb. First rule: never EVER shout "Engage!" again, unless you want to shout "Help!" and F*ck!" soon after. Untutored courage is useless in the face of educated bullets. Gen. George S. Patton |
ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
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Posted - 2013.07.22 18:37:00 -
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Jharii Tirar wrote: As an aside, I am using Voice Attack,
If you ever get into a titan, will you please assign your doomsday to "FUS RO DAH!"? Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
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Posted - 2013.07.22 18:38:00 -
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Second rule: Never ever post in General Discussion unless you're in your flameproof suit. |
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Trudeaux Margaret
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2013.07.22 18:44:00 -
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Jharii Tirar wrote:Jill Xelitras wrote:Jharii Tirar wrote: To be honest, I don't get how some people are complaining so loudly after playing a game as complex as EVE for only a few days or even a few months.
To be honest, all you need to know is the name of a game. After that you are fully entitled to have an opinion about it on and off the internet. That's not unlike real life ... especially but not limited to politics. Fling some mud, something always sticks. "Entitled to" does not equate to "justified." Now let's get back to being on topic, because as of right now, my social experience in the forum is not matching up to my social experience in game.
Remember, people who read forums very rarely actually read what they respond to. ;)
Except me, of course. Welcome (back) to the game. I pretty much agree with all of your assessment. I started playing at the end of March/beginning of April, and I'm just beginning to find my way careerwise. This involves a second account and two other characters so I guess you can say I am well and truly hooked.
Again, welcome!
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
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Posted - 2013.07.22 18:47:00 -
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Welcome to EVE. When you feel that you're ready to fly a Republic Fleet Firetail, I have several that I can sell you at a great discount price, as I am currently in the process of clearing out my hangar. Rifterlings Corporation is now recruiting pilots for faction warfare solo & small gang frigate PvP. Visit our website at www.rifterlings.com or join our in game channel weflyrifters to speak to a recruiter. |
Venom13Games
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.07.22 19:02:00 -
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Jharii Tirar wrote: Now let's get back to being on topic, because as of right now, my social experience in the forum is not matching up to my social experience in game.
You'll find that rings fairly true throughout all the General Discussion threads, and a fair bit in the other subforums as well. Your in-game social experience will normally be much better than your forum social experience, although there do tend to be a few exceptions now and then.
As for being on topic... I'm not really sure what the topic of this thread should be. So I'll just give you a 'Welcome aboard!', and leave it at that.
Fly dangerous! o7 |
Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
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Posted - 2013.07.22 19:07:00 -
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Great OP. Thanks for sharing it with us.
One question; how on earth did you manage to get it to display in 3D?
GÇ£No man ought to commit his life into the hands of that Physician, who is ignorant of Astrologic: because he is a Physician of no value.GÇ¥ - Nicholas Culpeper |
Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
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Posted - 2013.07.22 19:13:00 -
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Mountains from molehills is a career agent mission, so, the Industry Career agent, regardless of faction or location, will have the same 10 missions. |
YuuKnow
Inner 5phere
831
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Posted - 2013.07.22 20:02:00 -
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Jharii Tirar wrote:As an aside, I am using Voice Attack, which takes verbal commands and runs the configured keyboard commands associated with them. Let me just say that it's both immersive and helpful when running EVE. There's something very awesome about shouting out "Engage!" to enable your autopilot. Beyond that, it's nice not having to hunt for the over-abundance of buttons and keyboard shortcuts. I HIGHLY recommend it, especially for new players.
Welcome to Eve. Please be advised that the typical views on the forums are not necessarily represented of the views of the total playerbase.
Voice Attack sounds cool. Will give it a try. "Lock Target and Fire!"
yk
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Jharii Tirar
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.22 20:09:00 -
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Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:Great OP. Thanks for sharing it with us.
One question; how on earth did you manage to get it to display in 3D?
I have a Samsung 57" 3D TV, an ATI 5870 video card, and TriDef 3D drivers, which can convert any DirectX game into 3D on the TV. If I sit close enough (about 6 feet), my field of view is rather "pure" and it is quite glorious.
Of course, your eyes can only take a couple hours at a time of that. |
Jayem See
Biohazard.
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Posted - 2013.07.22 20:10:00 -
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Welcome aboard! To avoid a torrent of lol-posts try branching out into the more specialised forums.
GD has a tendency to spiral into chaos with alarming constancy
With regard to you spending a lot of time reading about the game instead of playing it? Reconfigure your mindset into "research being a part of this game." Also - beware of out of date information. Eve changes a lot.
Try exploring some of the blogs that are out there - lots of good, inspirational stuff going on.
Anyways - good first post. Enjoy your stay Aaaaaaand relax. |
Jharii Tirar
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.22 20:13:00 -
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YuuKnow wrote:Jharii Tirar wrote:As an aside, I am using Voice Attack, which takes verbal commands and runs the configured keyboard commands associated with them. Let me just say that it's both immersive and helpful when running EVE. There's something very awesome about shouting out "Engage!" to enable your autopilot. Beyond that, it's nice not having to hunt for the over-abundance of buttons and keyboard shortcuts. I HIGHLY recommend it, especially for new players. Welcome to Eve. Please be advised that the typical views on the forums are not necessarily represented of the views of the total playerbase. Voice Attack sounds cool. Will give it a try. "Lock Target and Fire!" yk
Good luck! voiceattack.com has it on sale for 8 bucks right now and I am very surprised how well it works. It uses the Windows voice recognition engine, so you just have to do a bit of voice training, but it's well worth it.
I think my favorite command is "Close all windows" while I am making several jumps. Completely clears the screen of windows for a nice unobstructed view of space. |
ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
1631
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Posted - 2013.07.22 20:20:00 -
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Jharii Tirar wrote:Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:Great OP. Thanks for sharing it with us.
One question; how on earth did you manage to get it to display in 3D?
I have a Samsung 57" 3D TV, an ATI 5870 video card, and TriDef 3D drivers, which can convert any DirectX game into 3D on the TV. If I sit close enough (about 6 feet), my field of view is rather "pure" and it is quite glorious. Of course, your eyes can only take a couple hours at a time of that.
Does it put the Jita local spam in 3D? Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |
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Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.22 22:25:00 -
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Jharii Tirar wrote:Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:Great OP. Thanks for sharing it with us.
One question; how on earth did you manage to get it to display in 3D?
I have a Samsung 57" 3D TV, an ATI 5870 video card, and TriDef 3D drivers, which can convert any DirectX game into 3D on the TV. If I sit close enough (about 6 feet), my field of view is rather "pure" and it is quite glorious. EDIT: You should see CubeWorld! :) Of course, your eyes can only take a couple hours at a time of that. Your eyes can only take a couple hours because 1080P at 57 inches is crap... |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1001
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Posted - 2013.07.22 22:37:00 -
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Jimmy Morane wrote:Ok ok so out with it already...what is it you want nerfed?
He's just promoting his little program, can't you see the elephant in front of your face? *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Jharii Tirar
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.07.23 01:26:00 -
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Doc Severide wrote:Jharii Tirar wrote:Myfanwy Heimdal wrote:Great OP. Thanks for sharing it with us.
One question; how on earth did you manage to get it to display in 3D?
I have a Samsung 57" 3D TV, an ATI 5870 video card, and TriDef 3D drivers, which can convert any DirectX game into 3D on the TV. If I sit close enough (about 6 feet), my field of view is rather "pure" and it is quite glorious. EDIT: You should see CubeWorld! :) Of course, your eyes can only take a couple hours at a time of that. Your eyes can only take a couple hours because 1080P at 57 inches is crap...
An interesting theory, but the problem is not with the 1080p, it's with the 3D. The game is gorgeous on the TV, big size and all. |
Jharii Tirar
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.07.23 01:35:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Jimmy Morane wrote:Ok ok so out with it already...what is it you want nerfed? He's just promoting his little program, can't you see the elephant in front of your face?
It's not my program. Nice try, though. If I was advertising any program I wrote, I'd just come out and say it and I certainly wouldn't write a moderately lengthy review which I obviously put some thought into and then summarize it with a short blurb about said program.
All I did was share my experience and everything that contributed to that experience.
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Jzara Swift
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.07.23 02:56:00 -
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- Career paths are a bit ambiguous with regards to certifications. I wish to be an explorer with a dash of salvaging and mining, but I had a real hard time finding certifications that match up with this path. I am not saying they are not there, but just hard to discover as a new player, and thus, a bit hard to plot out.
I agree with pretty much everything you said.. With an extra bold on the one i quoted above.. Finding my way around was overwhelming i think i have the training wheels off now though. :D
I'm a new player, like totally virgin new.. and only because steam had a sale i thought id try to give the game a try.. and while complex i found it highly entertaining. |
Burl en Daire
The Ecstatic Cult of Dionysus Trifectas Syndicate
11
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Posted - 2013.07.23 05:54:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:Jharii Tirar wrote: As an aside, I am using Voice Attack,
If you ever get into a titan, will you please assign your doomsday to "FUS RO DAH!"?
Dovahkiin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOxVjbGvUpI&feature=youtube_gdata_player |
duglas Luven
Confederate Industry and Investments Inc. Confederacy of Stellar Empires
2
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Posted - 2013.07.23 08:25:00 -
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Jimmy Morane wrote:Ok ok so out with it already...what is it you want nerfed?
LOL I got a chuckle out of that one. |
Tiberius Mal
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2013.07.23 08:53:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:Does it put the Jita local spam in 3D?
words alone cannot describe the horror i felt upon consideration of this feature... |
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