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Necroromantic
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.07.23 11:35:00 -
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OK, I'm not going to name the lazy GM who can't be bothered to do his job, (but I sure as hell would like too). I am again here to get an answer from DEV'S instead, as told to by said work shy GM ..
Please can you explain the definition of the word 'RANDOM' and then maybe you can do the brainiac thing and tell what the mathematical probability (and show your workings) for 'RANDOMLY' getting, in any 4 hour period, the same 4 missions over and over and over again??? - As driving a wedge 2-2 is NOT random it always follows its opener..
agent missions given... 1. eliminate the pirate campers 2. driving a wedge pt 1 3. driving a wedge pt 2 4. gone berserk 5. unauthorized military presence 6. gone berserk 7. eliminate the pirate campers 8. unauthorized military presence 9. driving a wedge pt 1 10. driving a wedge pt 2
This is just the last 4 hour extract of the same constant issue with the lack of randomness in mission offers ( that i have mentioned in 5 petitions since Retribution) and if i was to be bothered to write down every mission done since the Odyssey Expansion you would see over half the missions that the agents (within Caldari space) SHOULD offer have never come up while i get clusters of repeated missions over and over and as I can only refuse 1 mission in any 4 hour period this now pi*sing me off no end.
I personally think this is a petition not a forum issue but as stated GM's are pathetically useless and apparently this is an in-game 'artwork' issue that the DEV'S should reply to.... So maybe you can explain how mission random generation is an ART issue too
Maybe when thats done you can explain why the term 'Customer Service' means something so very different in England than it does in Iceland! |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
585
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Posted - 2013.07.23 12:34:00 -
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So you are angry that a random selection does not give you the results YOU want? |
Gimme more Cynos
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
60
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Posted - 2013.07.23 12:39:00 -
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What a bullsh*t-thread.
Random is random and you get a random mission - this DOES NOT mean that you will have all missions within a given pool.
Hope you got it now - yw!
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Zor'katar
Matari Recreation
136
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Posted - 2013.07.23 12:46:00 -
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Is this an issue with one specific agent? I don't think all agents pull from the exact same pool, even those in the same space. Not sure, though. |
Trudeaux Margaret
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
56
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Posted - 2013.07.23 12:52:00 -
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Even MMOs that are known for excellent PvE content get repetitive in their missions (or quests, or whatever they call them.) The mission won't be called the exact same thing, but you'll find yourself collecting 20 bear butts for 10 different agents in 10 different places for slightly different reasons.
It's something you have to get used to if you do PvE, and if it drives you nuts you don't do PvE at all, I guess.
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Necroromantic
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2013.07.23 12:53:00 -
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As stated if you care to read fully i have petitioned 5 times since retribution and listed longer strings of non random mission selections and if thats not enough DEV's can pull the logs and see the direct information that trolling morons can't see.
To the dude who suggested that the same mission 3-5 times in a row - well just go look it up bro you don't EVER get the same mission twice in a row it is the only mission that is withheld from the 'random' selection.
I have said too i believe the stupid work shy GM's should not dismiss my pet's as ARTWORK issues and redirect to the forums so a bunch of random Wan**rs can troll my Fuc**ng official complaint! |
imbaRabbit
Suddenly rabbit
55
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Posted - 2013.07.23 12:53:00 -
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0.) I'm not a DEV, but I'll just state my opinion since the forum is created for that. 1.) Obviously, this 'issue' is not related to any ARTWORK. 2.) The 'problem' you have described is not an issue or a problem, so I'll stop using those two words in the post. 3.) The chance of DEV coming and responding to this thread is pretty low. But we could increase the chances by typing something funny or attractive to a DEV? Hmm ... if we analyze the forum content and DEV posts, maybe we can predict who and when someone will post.
Random: lack of pattern or predictability in events. Previous missions and time is of interest to no one. Since random is not affected by those two variables. The chance of you getting a mission is ( 1/X ), where X is the number of missions which you can get from a certain agent, in a certain region (could also be named 'mission pool').
What you've experienced is not the lack of randomness, but you're experiencing randomness itself. You're just wasting time by opening new petitions. In order to test randomness, you can get a fair coin. The chance for getting "heads" or "tails" is ( 1/2 ). Yet, within one hundred tosses, you can get "heads" one hundred times. I've done the test before, and one series of tests had 89 times "heads" and only 11 times "tails". To whom should I write petition, because there's "obviously lack of randomness". Random is random - deal with it. You can get the same mission 100% of your time (unless they have a small variable which will disable mission repeating X times in a row). Every time you ask agent for a new mission, the probability of getting either mission M1 or mission Mx is always ( 1/X ). Third, fourth, fifth, sixth mission isn't affected by what mission you have run. Each new mission is an independent event.
You can "increase chances" by having more active agents around. You're either doing some things wrong, or you're farming the only good agent around because of the LP store. If you're farming LP store, then you're getting frustrated, just as in any other game where you think that all forces have joined in a sacred crusade against you. Take a big breath and relax. Stop calling people useless because you're making yourself look bad, especially on such trivial things such as randomness.
What would you do if you got this series of missions: Gone Berserk, Angel Extravaganza, Gone Berserk, Dread Pirate Scarlet, Angel Extravaganza, Dread Pirate Scarlet, Worlds Collide, Gone Berserk, Worlds Collide, Gone Berserk, Worlds Collide, Gone Berserk, Worlds Collide, Worlds Collide, Worlds Collide, Worlds Collide, Dread Pirate Scarlet, ... Would you keep quiet or you would fill a petition? (I think we all know the answer, so there's no need to answer it). Also, the series I've provided may not be in your interest, so just take the series which you would like the most. |
Zor'katar
Matari Recreation
136
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Posted - 2013.07.23 13:34:00 -
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Necroromantic wrote:As stated if you care to read fully i have petitioned 5 times since retribution and listed longer strings of non random mission selections and if thats not enough DEV's can pull the logs and see the direct information that trolling morons can't see.
To the dude who suggested that the same mission 3-5 times in a row - well just go look it up bro you don't EVER get the same mission twice in a row it is the only mission that is withheld from the 'random' selection.
I have said too i believe the stupid work shy GM's should not dismiss my pet's as ARTWORK issues and redirect to the forums so a bunch of random Wan**rs can troll my Fuc**ng official complaint! You're right. Forum ranting is obviously the best way to get your issue considered. Good luck. |
Gimme more Cynos
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
60
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Posted - 2013.07.23 13:43:00 -
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Necroromantic wrote:As stated if you care to read fully i have petitioned 5 times since retribution and listed longer strings of non random mission selections and if thats not enough DEV's can pull the logs and see the direct information that trolling morons can't see.
To the dude who suggested that the same mission 3-5 times in a row - well just go look it up bro you don't EVER get the same mission twice in a row it is the only mission that is withheld from the 'random' selection.
I have said too i believe the stupid work shy GM's should not dismiss my pet's as ARTWORK issues and redirect to the forums so a bunch of random Wan**rs can troll my Fuc**ng official complaint!
Wow, you still lack the ability to get it..
Stop trolling people, and stop wasting valuable GM-time with your stupid petitions. There is no Bug involved - it is random, and random means that there is a chance that you will get the same mission over and over and over and over and over and over and over again - frequently.
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Necroromantic
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2013.07.23 13:51:00 -
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Gimme more Cynos wrote:Necroromantic wrote:As stated if you care to read fully i have petitioned 5 times since retribution and listed longer strings of non random mission selections and if thats not enough DEV's can pull the logs and see the direct information that trolling morons can't see.
To the dude who suggested that the same mission 3-5 times in a row - well just go look it up bro you don't EVER get the same mission twice in a row it is the only mission that is withheld from the 'random' selection.
I have said too i believe the stupid work shy GM's should not dismiss my pet's as ARTWORK issues and redirect to the forums so a bunch of random Wan**rs can troll my Fuc**ng official complaint! Wow, you still lack the ability to get it.. Stop trolling people, and stop wasting valuable GM-time with your stupid petitions. There is no Bug involved - it is random, and random means that there is a chance that you will get the same mission over and over and over and over and over and over and over again - frequently.
Go f**k yourself!!! i'm not the moron troll tosser i started the thread after being told to do so by a CCP EMPLOYEE are YOU an EMPLOYEE??. NO??? so if you dont wanna read my thread or offer a real reply instead of trolling my post then go do one... and if you don't want angry replies don't be C**t!!! i pay the same as everyone else and i have a right to customer service i should not have to put complaints in public forums so **** munchers like you can have an opinion on a matter that got f**k all to do you!! |
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Gimme more Cynos
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
60
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Posted - 2013.07.23 13:57:00 -
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Necroromantic wrote:Gimme more Cynos wrote:Necroromantic wrote:As stated if you care to read fully i have petitioned 5 times since retribution and listed longer strings of non random mission selections and if thats not enough DEV's can pull the logs and see the direct information that trolling morons can't see.
To the dude who suggested that the same mission 3-5 times in a row - well just go look it up bro you don't EVER get the same mission twice in a row it is the only mission that is withheld from the 'random' selection.
I have said too i believe the stupid work shy GM's should not dismiss my pet's as ARTWORK issues and redirect to the forums so a bunch of random Wan**rs can troll my Fuc**ng official complaint! Wow, you still lack the ability to get it.. Stop trolling people, and stop wasting valuable GM-time with your stupid petitions. There is no Bug involved - it is random, and random means that there is a chance that you will get the same mission over and over and over and over and over and over and over again - frequently. Go f**k yourself!!! i'm not the moron troll tosser i started the thread after being told to do so by a CCP EMPLOYEE are YOU an EMPLOYEE??. NO??? so if you dont wanna read my thread or offer a real reply instead of trolling my post then go do one... and if you don't want angry replies don't be C**t!!! i pay the same as everyone else and i have a right to customer service i should not have to put complaints in public forums so **** munchers like you can have an opinion on a matter that got f**k all to do you!!
I offered you a reply allready, saying that there is no guarantee for having no repetition on RANDOM-missions.
You called me a troll. Seriously, you should google random - seems like you don't know what it is. |
James Hakkar
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.07.23 14:43:00 -
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Did it occur to you that it's possible the GM routed you to the forums for the reasons we are replying? Maybe he had hopes the community could enlighten you that what you say is not true.
As said in this topic already - but I think a few replies have been removed - random is random. That also means you can have 4 of the same missions repeating over and over again.
You seem to think random means you can't have the same mission twice before all other missions in the pool have passed. Well, the chance to get that result are pretty slim if you work with a random mission pool. It's much more likely that you get offered the same mission a few times and that is exactly what is happening to you! |
Tsukino Stareine
The Red Circle Inc.
547
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Posted - 2013.07.23 14:47:00 -
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I rolled a die 6 times and got all 6's, this die is clearly fixed!
go record 1000 missions and then maybe it will start to mean something if you get more of one than the others. |
Aims 'Amy' Loh
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.07.23 14:48:00 -
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As stated, real randomness is streakier than people realize.
Personally, I wouldn't mind getting Gone Berserk repeatedly. That, and Mining Misappropriation. Those missions are gravy. |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1301
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Posted - 2013.07.23 15:03:00 -
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the other day i got blockade blockade gone berserk blockade. i was a happy mission bear
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Sante Ixnay
University of Caille Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2013.07.23 16:19:00 -
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Roughly a thousand years from now, when blue-skinned fungus ewoks are solemnly deconstructing the accomplishments and failures of the human race, one researcher will be forced to conclude that MMO forum conversations about random number generators were the great obsession of our civilization.
"-íSzattdwis-eers, ekxii dmbshts!" will be his immortal words, before he is immediately devoured by his fellow historians in a congratulatory feast.
Necroromantic wrote:
I personally think this is a petition not a forum issue but as stated GM's are pathetically useless and apparently this is an in-game 'artwork' issue that the DEV'S should reply to.... So maybe you can explain how mission random generation is an ART issue too
You been trolled, son. :sam elliott:
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
9333
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Posted - 2013.07.24 02:19:00 -
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Gonna respond to specific phrases in your reply. This is not a troll or an attempt to miss-quote your reply.
imbaRabbit wrote: Random: lack of pattern or predictability in events. Previous missions and time is of interest to no one. Since random is not affected by those two variables. The chance of you getting a mission is ( 1/X ), where X is the number of missions which you can get from a certain agent, in a certain region (could also be named 'mission pool').
What you've experienced is not the lack of randomness, but you're experiencing randomness itself.
First of all, I hate how the easy answer to most every question in this game is = Random or RNG.
Your previous missions do have an effect towards the next mission being offered from agent. IE, the same mission is not to be offered again back to back. That was a very big issue for a long time which CCP had supposedly fixed a couple years ago.
imbaRabbit wrote:Random is random - deal with it. You can get the same mission 100% of your time (unless they have a small variable which will disable mission repeating X times in a row). Every time you ask agent for a new mission, the probability of getting either mission M1 or mission Mx is always ( 1/X ). Third, fourth, fifth, sixth mission isn't affected by what mission you have run. Each new mission is an independent event. Again, as I already stated above, the mission previously completed does in fact affect the agents next mission offer. You're not supposed to get the same mission being offered again and again, back to back. However, a specific mission can be re-offered every other time, thus making it seem like it's being offered repeatedly.
imbaRabbit wrote:You can "increase chances" by having more active agents around. You're either doing some things wrong, or you're farming the only good agent around because of the LP store. If you're farming LP store, then you're getting frustrated, just as in any other game where you think that all forces have joined in a sacred crusade against you. Take a big breath and relax. Stop calling people useless because you're making yourself look bad, especially on such trivial things such as randomness. I agree about having other Agents to use, especially Agents in other Divisions within the same NPC corporation if you're looking to only access that corps LP store.
Another thing to think about is other corps within the same Faction. Some will have duplicate items available in their LP store as well. That alone will more than likely change the missions being offered, IE, Military Corp verses Civilian Corp verses Industrial Corp, etc.
That basically covers the answers / options usually accepted by the majority.
Now for my own thoughts about this due to my own experience. I have no proof but I think there's a bit more to it than just specific mission pools for each agent to offer. In the past I've had a lot of other players contradict me and say I'm wrong and that I fail to understand RNG. Again that's an easy answer that requires no explanation, especially when they actually don't know and don't wanna admit it.
Along with the Agent Division and type of Corporation (Military, Civilian, etc), the Agents location may have some influence as well, IE, being next to enemy Faction border systems verses being in the middle of it's Factions secured space. I believe your current standings towards the agent as well as the other Factions also has an influence on the missions being offered. Going hand in hand with that, the type of missions you've also previously accepted and completed.
Of course this is just my opinion. I'm sure there's a lot who will disagree and want to debate it. All I can say is "Been there, done that and won't do it again".
DMC
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Ave Kathrina
My Ass Is On Fire
55
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Posted - 2013.07.24 02:46:00 -
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This seems to be pretty clear - the OP is an annoying pain in the ass and the Dev's/GM's are having some much needed lols with you by limiting the seed to the RNG...
So...
Lol, sucks to be you. I've done some really stupid **** in this game. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
3122
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Posted - 2013.07.24 04:23:00 -
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I've had 3 Scarlets in a row. I'm not complaining. |
Archibald Thistlewaite III
120
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Posted - 2013.07.24 09:31:00 -
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Well at least we know why the petition system keeps getting clogged up. |
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imbaRabbit
Suddenly rabbit
57
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Posted - 2013.07.24 09:41:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:Gonna respond to specific phrases in your reply. This is not a troll or an attempt to miss-quote your reply.
Your previous missions do have an effect towards the next mission being offered from agent. IE, the same mission is not to be offered again back to back. That was a very big issue for a long time which CCP had supposedly fixed a couple years ago.
DMC
I don't like the fact they're touching the random generator. But it doesn't seem that it affects the game, even if they've implemented it. Luckily for me, I have three agents within two jumps and I have an alt which can access those agents too. So basically, six mission agents within two jumps. That's not bad. I usually get stuck with two agents on two alts, but luckily there's a third one which always provides me with a mission or two (just enough to kill time when I'm awake). But then again, I'm not playing for ISK/LP, but just to relax and shoot some NPCs. |
Necroromantic
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
25
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Posted - 2013.07.24 11:11:00 -
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To the DEV's HOW ABOUT YOU ANSWER THE POST??? huh ???? The silly workshy GM's in customer services say its YOUR job and you are the people EMPLOYED by CCP to answer my complaint SO ANSWER SO I DON'T HAVE TO SIT HERE READING posts made by ignorant people who only reply to cause distress and are using my post for cyber bullying target practice??
NOT A DEV??? ..... Then back page and go p**s on someone elses problems! |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1305
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Posted - 2013.07.24 11:28:00 -
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this topic is now about kittens. aren't they super cuddly and adorable?
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Necroromantic
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
25
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Posted - 2013.07.24 12:54:00 -
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@ Frostys Virpio.. No Sweetie you obviously need more practice reading as the post clearly states i'm upset that i keep getting clumps of missions that are the same and when done in quick concession the missions then yield absolutely NO loot and practically NO salvage reducing the over all in game income i was making before odyssey by 2/3rds. so i guess my actual complaint - and this is an official complaint logged through petitions regarding how ccp have reduced in game incomes to promote the sale of PLEX as dust 514 is so bad and such a money drain that CCP needs Gouge EVE players to stop from going bankrupt!! missions keep looping into small groups of repetitive NOT random selection.. hope that clears up your confusion sweetie, now you fly safe o/
@ Gimmi more cynos... well apparently calling someone elses thread bullsh*t is not trolling or rude or a personal attack.. so i guess you are an employee after all!
Developer misconduct Instances of developer misconduct in Eve Online have been substantiated, leading to debates and controversy within the game community. On February 9, 2007, a player known as Kugutsumen hacked an enemy corporation's private forum to find out and reveal that Eve Online developer t20 had provided his corporation, Reikoku, with six valuable blueprints, giving them an advantage over competing corporations.[103] Some within the Eve Online community asked for t20's dismissal. While an apology letter was left for the community in the form of a dev blog, he remained an Eve Online developer until late 2008. Kugutsumen was permanently banned from the Eve Online universe for violating the game's terms of service and end-user license agreement by revealing t20's real name.[104] In response to public concerns, CCP decided to set up an internal affairs division whose responsibility is to monitor the activities of both privileged and player accounts operated by CCP staff in-game.[105]
Seems Internal Affairs have not got this problem of staff misusing their positions under control after all... go figure
@ zor'katar.. i guess your right being upset over having your human, civil and commercial right withheld is no reason to be angry and snippy in the forum, or that to make you the 'customer' air his complaints in a public forum where the standing troll army can all have a say is something i should just except when it breaks all civil rights... thank you for pointing that out and i'm sure being taunted when already stressed is probably safe and not going to have the effect of making said upset person even angrier. thank you wise sage!!
@gimmi more cynos.. well if your first comment of calling my thread bullsh*t was not a removable offence then insulting my intelligence must cut the grade especially as your abusiveness towards me was why i posted the angry message calling bad names... that was removed
so firstly i still think you are an employee using a personal alt to troll players who question the mighty infallible CCP, but secondly regardless of your employ i offer you my apologies, as you acting like a spiteful rude troll is no reason for me to be aggressive and verbally abusive. fly safe internet troll dude!! |
Zor'katar
Matari Recreation
138
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Posted - 2013.07.24 15:12:00 -
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Look, forum trolls are a given. It's entirely up to you how much of a problem they are. There are a number of people around here who are happy to be helpful to anyone who will let him/herself be helped. Ignore the trolls, engage those trying to help. Responding to the trolls with rage only eggs them on and makes you look like someone who's more interested in ranting than listening to advice on your issue.
Back to the question on page 1: Is this happening for one specific agent? A set of agents? All agents? |
Necroromantic
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
25
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Posted - 2013.07.24 16:10:00 -
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Zor'katar wrote:Look, forum trolls are a given. It's entirely up to you how much of a problem they are. There are a number of people around here who are happy to be helpful to anyone who will let him/herself be helped. Ignore the trolls, engage those trying to help. Responding to the trolls with rage only eggs them on and makes you look like someone who's more interested in ranting than listening to advice on your issue.
Back to the question on page 1: Is this happening for one specific agent? A set of agents? All agents?
Hey I know you're right about the trolls however i don't even want to be putting a customer complaint in public forum because i have Chronic Social Anxiety Disorder and i can't even go on the forum without using an alt of my alt :( . Fact is I am unable to restrain my anger against such attacks even if they are pathetic and lame it's got so bad over the last year i can't even socialise online and now play as a stand alone game with chats turned off... and it's due to how CCP have aloud this game to become a den of spite and bullying!
For 8 years i have loyally paid my fees and excepted the changes made even when i disliked them, however CCP's clear and precise assaults on 'carebear' players and the opening up of a more free for all kill or be killed attitude through high sec and the ignoring of internet bullies or 'TROLLS' is an insult..
As You say though back to the topic..
I use 14 agents over 4 corps doing level 3 security missions and lvl 4 courier (for the uber good combat lvl 4 storylines) corps used are: 1. caldari navy 2.caldari police 3. lia dai protection services 4.suukavesta (think thats spelled right).
i won't name the agents as i don't the pratts waiting around to grief me...
I'll do a group of missions between 16 and 25 and get only 4-6 unique missions - the lvl 3's obviously though as courier are same no matter. As i repeat missions it starts to act the same way modular stacking penalties do and with each repeat offering less and less loot and salvage until by the 3rd time reaping the mission tevery wreck is empty not even scrap metal, in fact with missions that have tags if i repeat the same mission (no matter if i change agent or not) i know already i won't get any loot at all just tags.. missions like silence the informant that almost every time i got this mission before Oddysey would yield a cargo tub worth between 5 -20 mill, i have had this mission 5 times in close succession only the first mission yielded a good loot can wear as the subsiquent 4 missions gave less than 1/4 mill loot. the more often you do the mission the worse it gets. this has lead to a 2/3rd drop in profits made from mission running since Odyssey and every time i petition and get told it's not happening this issue stops for about 40 missions then goes back to looping in small groups of the same 4-5 missions and stays that way till i petition again only to be ignored and told gms only job is tell us 'its not our job'... unlike the accusations I'm just wanting clusters of good missions this is one of my fav and repeatedly getting nothing is s**t and i'd sooner have real random missions than clusters of repeating missions as stated in the game description.
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GM Bunyip
Game Masters C C P Alliance
41
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Posted - 2013.07.24 20:34:00 -
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Hey there,
I've made a note in the related ticket to this effect, but it's probably worthwhile explaining this in the thread for everyone's benefit (see: making threads is a good thing ).
The "Driving a Wedge" mission variant "Getting the Gallente" behaves in a fairly unique way. When the first mission is declined, you don't get a new randomly-selected mission offered. Instead, you get a variant mission of the first one (which you can then decline - for a penalty I believe - to get a randomized mission offer next).
This is worth keeping in mind as it may explain some of the repetition you saw. Beyond that, it's also worth keeping in mind that while missions are randomly selected, they are done so from a pool of available missions which is finite. This means that while missions are in fact randomly selected, some repetition is inevitable since there's only so much variation you can get when working with a limited set of missions. One way to improve variation is to add more missions to that pool, but there are likely other approaches that could work as well to make things less repetitive.
This is a great place to make feature suggestions and improvements that could help add the variation you seek, so feel free to throw solutions and ideas out there for our developers. |
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Gimme more Cynos
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
60
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Posted - 2013.07.24 22:26:00 -
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Necroromantic wrote: @ Gimmi more cynos... well apparently calling someone elses thread bullsh*t is not trolling or rude or a personal attack.. so i guess you are an employee after all!
Roll a 6 sided dice 6 times, and see the results.. roll it 100 times and see the results too... Yes, I might've been "rude", but let's face it - this thread is bullsh*t, as it's a complain about randomness givin the same results frequently. Guess what? It happens and is infact completely normal.
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S Byerley
The Manhattan Engineer District
95
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Posted - 2013.07.25 04:35:00 -
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You're not helping with the silly dice/coin analogies. Things only get unintuitive when you have a semi-large pool - think birthday paradox.
I vote for randomly generated missions btw (with randomly generated dialogue) - then maybe be concerned if you still get the exact same mission twice |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
723
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Posted - 2013.07.25 04:58:00 -
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Try to stay on topic; kittens. Eve is Real |
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