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Harvey James
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.05 16:51:00 -
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Maybe navy versions could be slightly different to the normal versions beyond just skins.
-T1 basic model - Navy different skin and some alterations to match bonuses of ship -T2 different skin , larger changes to match the manufacturer and bonuses of ships - pirate versions get much larger changes than both Tech 3's need to be multi role ships not cruiser hulls with battleship tank and insane resists ABC's are clearly T2 in all but name AB's need a buff-á like a big mass reduction ... module tiercide FTW role based instead of tiers please. |
Phoenix Jones
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
143
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Posted - 2013.08.05 16:54:00 -
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Has any consensus been made on this? It sounds like we have a bunch of people saying "fix this and that" (the normal jargon), but no actual decision has been made.
This seems like a good envelope to do something similar to what was done with the 99 reasonable things. Why don't we just get some voting done on this. We can easily make a voting system, and pick 4 ships.
1 Gallente, 1 Caldari, 1 Minmatar, and 1 Amarr ship to be "touched up or redone".
There would be more of a direction and consensus with the community of what really needs to be touched up. The artists would know that the people are looking forward to the redesign. |
Lugia3
Pirates Incorporated
512
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Posted - 2013.08.05 21:13:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:CCP BunnyVirus wrote:Harvey James wrote:CCP BunnyVirus wrote:That Engine thing on the mega is not an engine whatever it is it needs to be deleted nope just release a symmetrical megathron with dronebay of 75m3 and drone bandwidth of 0Mbit i'm sure it'll be a smashing success
It isn't a drone uplink, either. It is an onboard tracking processor for the 7.5% tracking bonus. Yarr |
SOL Ranger
Jaeger Squadron
1
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Posted - 2013.08.05 21:18:00 -
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Nightmare literally. |
Nagarythe Tinurandir
Tormented of Destiny The Kadeshi
139
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Posted - 2013.08.05 21:58:00 -
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all those typhoon haters...
if any ships: all this gallente space-cancer (celestis n'stuff, imicus/helios) and THE potato all this wierd caldari-lego (blackbird, moa, bantam) maybe bellicose/rabier/huginn
the rest can wait till the others a done. |
Maraner
The Executioners Insidious Empire
271
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Posted - 2013.08.05 22:42:00 -
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Typhoon.
Really starting to show it's age.
Needs more tube and less cube to it. Make it the tube of doom!
The jokes would be endless.
Oh and the Ferox maybe? likely to see a lot more of it following the rail changes and it aint pretty. |
ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
1723
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Posted - 2013.08.05 22:44:00 -
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Bunny please leave the dominix alone Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |
Maraner
The Executioners Insidious Empire
271
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Posted - 2013.08.05 22:48:00 -
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Yeah space potato ftw.
It may be a bit if a waste of time given how many of them there are in the game but the Revenant looks like a giant poop. I know that has been pointed out a thousand times, but it really is bloody awful.
A lot of the eve ships have ugly character to them, but that one is just right out nasty. And not in a good way. Phoon as noted really needs an update, but the Rev needs a brown paper bag. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3264
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Posted - 2013.08.05 23:17:00 -
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We are forgetting that the ships are designed somewhat around their sensor types.
On Minmatar ships, those are not solar panels. Those are the panels used for Ladar.
Caldari ships, if you note that "little wings" use gravimetric sensors. A real gravimetric sensor might even look like that.
Gallente ships use magnetometric sensors. This would entail huge rounded coils.
Finally the Amarr use radar, and that means dishes and horn antennae behind large bulbous radoms (so they can move around inside).
Whoever designed these ships initially can be said to have done their homework.
Still the Imicus and some of those Caldari ships, and even the Celestis - c'mon we can tell that some designers were up against a deadline on those (I hope).
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Lyrrashae
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
437
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Posted - 2013.08.06 00:40:00 -
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Celestis/Lachesis/Arazu. Live better: Rage-post! |
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Lord Ryan
True Xero True Zombies
841
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Posted - 2013.08.06 00:51:00 -
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Pretty much anything Caldari
Do not assume-áanything above this line-áwas typed by me. Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient.
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Ninder
Helghan Imperial Armada Apocalypse Now.
4
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Posted - 2013.08.06 01:07:00 -
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Iterons.... They're hard to looks at! |
Ninder
Helghan Imperial Armada Apocalypse Now.
4
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Posted - 2013.08.06 01:10:00 -
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Actually I'd like there to be more models in general rather than just recycling old ones.
Like the scorpion has 3 variations for 3 very different ships (marauder, black ops)
I always felt this was a little lazy on the design part, there's no reasons why black ops ships couldnt have had their own hulls befitting their cloaky purposes. |
Ckra Trald
Photon Scorpions Tribal Liberation Alliance
216
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Posted - 2013.08.06 01:38:00 -
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give blood raider ships more of a demonic look. Black and Crimson red would be nice. ^^ poorly made blunt forum post above ^^ |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1296
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Posted - 2013.08.06 02:03:00 -
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Lugia3 wrote:just release a symmetrical megathron with dronebay of 75m3 and drone bandwidth of 0Mbit i'm sure it'll be a smashing success
It isn't a drone uplink, either. It is an onboard tracking processor for the 7.5% tracking bonus.[/quote] i looked up the art and it's labelled 'tactical sensors & drone control', dunno if that's computing as well, but we can remove the tracking bonus and drone bandwidth and see how people like their new megathron :D |
Eve Mione
The Night Wardens Viro Mors Non Est
5
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Posted - 2013.08.06 02:49:00 -
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For me the Imicus wins the ugly war followed by the Moa.
*Snip copy paste from other post*
My T1 Frigate lineup for rework would be: Crucifier, Bantam, Imicus and Burst. Good to hear they 'were' working on the Crucifier, but that was also said about the (Symmetrical) Imicus as well a few years back during a Fanfest as WIP. * Hey CCP, what ever happened to this Imicus: http://i.imgur.com/VlKnO.jpg Also, you guys were kind of close with the Atron: http://i.imgur.com/jEICv.jpg But it really just needs to have the longer wing mirrored on the other side, but the cockpit/bridge of the ship can stay on the one side as it is. That or you can have the T1 with the shorter wings and the Interceptor with the longer ones for variations like the stealth bombers.
As for the Asymmetry vs Symmetry ships, I think most ships that are not balanced in general shape need work but can retain certain asymmetric qualities to them. The new Mega model is a good result. For me the core hull shape and size should be relatively the same on both sides so should the engine sizes and placement. Meaning 70% of ships could use a small or large tweak. Also incorporating the drone force field entrances on the Vexor, Myrm and Domi would go a long way to improving that these are indeed mini like carriers. |
grrlet
doTheNeedful
27
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Posted - 2013.08.06 03:07:00 -
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There are only 2 ships in eve that make me physically cringe with embarrassment whenever I see them...
1. All variants of the Iteron (I cannot STAND the nose on the front of it, the rest of the ship is fine) 2. The Badger (Why a faucet? I see people complaining about faucets on the forums all the time, ergo faucets are BAD!)
I don't mind the other ugly ships. There is no way to please everybody... and hey, there's no denying that the Moa, as ugly as it is, has a lot of character =)
ps: I love the Dominix & I love the Typhoon as they are.
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Cauldron Asai
State War Academy Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2013.08.06 03:29:00 -
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moa. domi . blackbird . they are all iconic and need some dev love |
tankalicious stinkbottom
Lucid Dreamers Tribal Band
0
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Posted - 2013.08.06 03:37:00 -
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MOA!! is ugliest lil duckling in game... |
Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1071
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Posted - 2013.08.06 09:39:00 -
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Of the most frequently used ships, there is a need to update the Caldari shuttle and the Hurricane - both are looking tired now. |
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Saya Hecatonchires
Sons of Caldari
1
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Posted - 2013.08.06 09:58:00 -
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tankalicious stinkbottom wrote:MOA!! is ugliest lil duckling in game...
I'm maybe the only one in EVE, but the Gila version of the Moa is one of my preferred hull
Raven need some improvement, it's look like a scrashed squirrel on a motorway. I don't fly it only for the hull. (and so the golem and CNR)
Ishukone paintscheme is a bit strange on the harpy and the falcon...
Some difference between models with the same hull (scorpion, scorp navy issue, rattlesnake, widow = same hull for exemple) could be great.
After some models are great as assault minmatarr as (jaguar, wolf), the naga is awesome, the megathron is nice too.
my two isk.
fly free |
Demica Diaz
The Scope Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2013.08.06 10:03:00 -
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Helios |
Chopper Rollins
Sky Prey
219
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Posted - 2013.08.06 10:03:00 -
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Leave the rust alone please. Had the graphics on high for a while just for laughs and noticed how a thrasher looks greasy and hard like a trophy made of melted down coins. GÖÑ
Sort of off topic, asteroids have looked the same for a while now.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Cassius Invictus
Thou shalt not kill Exiled Ones
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Posted - 2013.08.06 11:03:00 -
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Ok I have reassessed my position on new models and have come up with following conclusions:
1.As much as I love CCP for the heart and effort they put into this game we have to remember they are company that needs to make profit. Therefore changes to the game should: a) attract new players, b) keep the old ones playing.
2.Attracting new players in terms of ship models is easier. You need several iconic ships for every race that are a GÇ£must haveGÇ¥ to a new player according to his personal taste. Redesigning rookie ships was an excellent example of this. The thing the new players aim for at first are the bc, so they are most important. Fortunately they are all pretty good except maybe caldari ones (anyone likes ferox?). But u still can improve them by making them not good but ultra cool. The apocalypse is a great example of this GÇô u took a good model, and perfected it to an uber-cool degree. Conclusion: improve those ships that people most commonly fly. Drake would be a great starter. BTW ever heard a noob saying: GÇ£omg IGÇÖm going to fly a Blackbird, I always pictured myself as a spece-brick pilotGÇ¥GǪ?
3.Improve ships that are the most common npc-ships. All the npc battleships that serve in navy, customs or pirate fleets are highly visible to noobs and trigger one of the two reactions: GÇ£omg I want to fly this thing one dayGÇ¥ or GÇ£wtf is this crap?GÇ¥. In that regard Scorpions are great, Armageddons are so so (they look as a nice civilian liner not a battleship of the GodGÇÖs Navy), Typhoons are kinda ok for someone who likes space junk, but need some texture love, and a flying potato is wellGǪ a flying potato. Some people say they like them but I can bet my deadspace fitted tengu that they wonGÇÖt cry much when u change it for something cooler. Certainly noobs could love them especially as their first lvl 4 mission runner.
4.The most difficult thing: making the old players happy. LetGÇÖs be honest: itGÇÖs not possible. I like symmetrical ships, someone else doesnGÇÖt. I like sleek ships, someone likes bulky ones. Someone likes vertical ships.. oh wait we all love vertical shpis :D. What to do: keep the character of every race so that each one is unique and everyone chooses what he pleases. I love advanced, symmetrical, aggressively looking ships. So I fly Amarr. What I donGÇÖt get is why: omen is asymmetrical , Aeon is both asymmetrical and junk-ugly, Avatar is a giant butt-plug and so on. Please remove those characteristics and keep them in other races GÇô this way everyone will be happy.
5.There are several design trend in CCP that show in every race ships, but imho should be kept to one or two races:
a.Most ships are front heavy in terms of hull size and subsystems: giant heads, small tails. It may look good (brutix) or bad (Avatar) but a little more variety should be added. 3 out of 4 titans have giant heads. 3 out of 4 dreads have this also. Much like most battleships (Gedeon, Abaddon, Potato, Maelstrom and few more). Again some should stay that way others shouldnGÇÖt. Why Hurricane is so cool? Because itGÇÖs one of the few ships without heavy head, and looks like a frikking star destroyer!
b.Enforced asymmetrical shapes. Much was said about that so I will just repeat: asymmetrical shapes should make sense (Reven) and not be ridiculous (Moa, 5th engine on Mach).
c.Not using cool looking hulls enough (why no Hurricane based command ship? Why no faction Abaddon? Why no variation of a tier 3 BC which are all outstanding?)
Saying that I still appreciate what u have done so far and canGÇÖt wait to see new Paladin ( but if u make it asymmetricalGǪgrrr).
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Shai 'Hulud
Brutor Tribe
26
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Posted - 2013.08.06 11:50:00 -
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MOA |
Edin Charante
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2013.08.06 11:55:00 -
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Jamagh wrote: Osprey. The little fins near the "head" Make them wiggle back and forth like legs. Just reminds me of a giant queen ant or termite.
They remind me of those aliens from the movie Fifth Element. And yes, they are ugly.
Jamagh wrote: Caracle. That thing looks like the back half of a dinosaur.
Caracal is fine such as it is. Looks a lot like Klingon warbird. |
Cebraio
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
309
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Posted - 2013.08.06 12:08:00 -
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Hra Neuvosto wrote:Phoenix Jones wrote: The above is a perfect setup for a drone ship, especially a gallente one.
No, they look very uninspired, especially the Fujin which is just a bigger Halo covenant hoverbike. First of all I don't think you should judge someones work like this and call it uninspired, if you cannot come up with anything remotely comparable yourself.
Secondly, even many of the current EVE ship designs got their inspiration from other spaceships. It's a common thing with spaceships. Many look alike.
Lastly, I don't see a resemblance of the hover-bike you mentioned. |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1081
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Posted - 2013.08.06 12:08:00 -
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CCP!!!
Free those art slaves you keep feeding with sheep testis and beer, free their creativity and change the looks of the game, this would be refreshing and overall good.
Leave old models already build as they are, those would become expensive rare pinatas to add to the KB but change is good, since it's only visual change this can only be good and make Eve even greater.
That Nyx design, jesus it's just fantastic
That new Nemesis, so sexy
That new Mega hull is so amazing
Those new added ships have such great looking
Time now to get to serious business and revamp old stuff designs, make them more aggressive, bad ass, look like real spaceships your imagination would fear the sight of it and not laugh at -Dominix, Moa, Helios, Celestis, Rapier everyone? *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Nessa Aldeen
First Among Equals
57
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Posted - 2013.08.06 12:25:00 -
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This thread needs replying even though I am drowning with work.
--MOA-- For the love of god, Remodel this ugly piece of garbage. I have been asking since 2005.
-Imicus- This ******* with a penile dysfunction needs HELP
the Dominix- it is as iconic as a turd that ends up in your toilet bowl. At the very least add something to the turd so that it looks like it can fly.
And finally, the Aeon, this SC needs to look less like a cut open dildo.
Thanks |
Sahriah BloodStone
Takmahl Dynamics
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Posted - 2013.08.06 13:09:00 -
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In Dire need
Moa - Oh god please Domi - I know there are a lot of people who love the iconic domi. Id like to compromise..make a version of it that isnt a flying shoe/whale, perhaps in the t2 versions Thanatos - The nyx looks soooo good, but this looks soooo bad Caracal - It looks so flimsy for a ship carrying missiles. Maybe beef it up a little while keeping its general shape Bantam Imicus
Would be nice Condor - Its a bit plain Aeon - Still needs to have its other half built :P Impairor / tormentor - share a similar look, would be cool to make one a little different |
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