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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.08.16 15:25:00 -
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Opertone wrote:Bring ships that kill...
If he has AC tornadoes, you should bring ARTY Battleships. Because he was set up for camping close range.
Use long range artillery, MWD, and passive shield buffer. Warp in, lock, volley fire, hope for the killmail.
If he has artillery tornadoes, set up for long range, bring couple armor tanked heavy hitters, possibly megathrones, armageddons, dominixes. Warp on top at close range, kill them all slowly one by one. He will be forced to disengage and warp off.
Tornadoes are not HP monsters, drones can easily hurt them, 10-15 heavy drones, all that fail army will be disoriented in that mess.
It is mostly usless to multibox vs multiple swarming targets. Meanwhile your domies can RR and permtank with RR energy RR armor reps.
TKL Hun isn't looking for solutions, he's looking for someone to fix it for him. Your excellent tactical advice will fall of deaf ears. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4149
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Posted - 2013.08.16 16:27:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:TKL HUN wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:What's kind of funny is that usually when people want things (that they cant' adapt to) changed in the game, we usually hear "EVE would get so many more subs if". I call it the "appeal to CCPs wallet".
And yet these guys want something changed (that they refuse to adapt to) while refusing to acknoledge the fact that any such change would hurt EVE by lowering the number of paid subscriptions (and putting a damp on the plex market, which is what isbox kiddies use to fund their accounts, which in turn still means more cash money for CCP).
You can petition all you like. You can bump this thread till EVE dies in 20 years when Star Citizen finally comes out (lol). You can stomp your feet all day long while abusing the petition system. It's just not going to change.
And this goes for every one with some ludicrous (and oh so easy to counter) pet peeve, be it isboxer, afk cloaking, freighter ganking or whatever. Sorry, CCP isn't going to play EVE for you, you need to learn how to do it. I don't want to change EVE, don't know why are you thinking it. In fact you do. ISBoxer is allowed, you want ccp to change it's stance from "we don't care" to "BANNED!". That's a change. I don't have a problem with people using ISBoxer. I tried it for pve but it's tedious to set up and confusing to use. Way easier to just use an alt domi and assign drones. If I didn't like the fact that people with isboxer could beat me (I don't ever recall losing a ship to someone doing that however), I'd learn how to use ISBoxer and beat hem at their own game (since it's allowed) OR use different tactics to beat them (exploiting the weaknesses people endure while multiboxing, like using damps or ecm burst on some of his ships to mess up locking/lock times thus making him deal with a less fine tuned isbox fleet) rather than start a thread on a forum in hopes of getting it banned. I just think that what you've done here is very weak-minded. Real gamers fight back and win, not run to mommy and whine. Multiboxing drone assist ships. Mmm There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4149
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Posted - 2013.08.16 16:29:00 -
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SmokinDank wrote:TKL HUN wrote:I'm not crying, and there are similar opinions, just look trough the whole topic. Oh I did, also the eve-search thread where I could see the personal attacks you made on folks who didn't agree with you. So many tears my bucket runneth over. The mighty search engine.
Busted. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
780
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Posted - 2013.08.16 17:25:00 -
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Quote:this mechanic abuse
What mechanic abuse?
Sometimes I say sarcastic stuff and get accused of being a troll... but seriously, people that don't bother to read the thread and then post inaccurate information are the worst lot.
There is zero mechanic abuse involved here. Its 3rd party software. We've been over it a lot. A lot a lot. We've explained it, made jokes about it, and explained it again. Eve is Real |
TKL HUN
Jugis Modo Utopia pwn-O-graphy
26
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Posted - 2013.08.16 18:27:00 -
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SmokinDank wrote:TKL HUN wrote:I'm not crying, and there are similar opinions, just look trough the whole topic. Oh I did, also the eve-search thread where I could see the personal attacks you made on folks who didn't agree with you. So many tears my bucket runneth over.
Personal attacks? What are you talking about? |
TKL HUN
Jugis Modo Utopia pwn-O-graphy
26
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Posted - 2013.08.16 18:28:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:TKL HUN wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:What's kind of funny is that usually when people want things (that they cant' adapt to) changed in the game, we usually hear "EVE would get so many more subs if". I call it the "appeal to CCPs wallet".
And yet these guys want something changed (that they refuse to adapt to) while refusing to acknoledge the fact that any such change would hurt EVE by lowering the number of paid subscriptions (and putting a damp on the plex market, which is what isbox kiddies use to fund their accounts, which in turn still means more cash money for CCP).
You can petition all you like. You can bump this thread till EVE dies in 20 years when Star Citizen finally comes out (lol). You can stomp your feet all day long while abusing the petition system. It's just not going to change.
And this goes for every one with some ludicrous (and oh so easy to counter) pet peeve, be it isboxer, afk cloaking, freighter ganking or whatever. Sorry, CCP isn't going to play EVE for you, you need to learn how to do it. I don't want to change EVE, don't know why are you thinking it. In fact you do. ISBoxer is allowed, you want ccp to change it's stance from "we don't care" to "BANNED!". That's a change. I don't have a problem with people using ISBoxer. I tried it for pve but it's tedious to set up and confusing to use. Way easier to just use an alt domi and assign drones. If I didn't like the fact that people with isboxer could beat me (I don't ever recall losing a ship to someone doing that however), I'd learn how to use ISBoxer and beat hem at their own game (since it's allowed) OR use different tactics to beat them (exploiting the weaknesses people endure while multiboxing, like using damps or ecm burst on some of his ships to mess up locking/lock times thus making him deal with a less fine tuned isbox fleet) rather than start a thread on a forum in hopes of getting it banned. I just think that what you've done here is very weak-minded. Real gamers fight back and win, not run to mommy and whine.
You are wrong, banning a 3rd party software is not changing EVE.
Anyway, if it's weak minded, why do you care? |
SmokinDank
Horizon Research Group
59
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Posted - 2013.08.16 18:31:00 -
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TKL HUN wrote:Personal attacks? What are you talking about?
Haha those posts you made that got the thread locked and cleaned. I guess I can understand why you can't see them through your veil of tears. ... |
Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
449
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Posted - 2013.08.16 18:40:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:So you're telling me that the open thread in Assembly Hall is locked? Mallak Azaria wrote:Pubbies don't bother to check
Each link I clicked were locked... are you trying to say that one link out of all of those you posted was unlocked? If so, why link the others?
Just post the 1 unlocked link and call it a day.
BTW, they are all locked still.(And yes, I checked them all again just now in case maybe I missed one).
So I am telling you, your links are locked. Which is what I said earlier, and what I am still saying now.
Check your own links please.
"But my favourite visual experience in Eve was a pipebombing run on a digital projector. Sure, the aliasing can never match the perfection of a 2160p image - but you can't beat a five metre space volcano on your wall." - Lord Maldoror(RnK)
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Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
449
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Posted - 2013.08.16 18:46:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:What's kind of funny is that usually when people want things (that they cant' adapt to) changed in the game, we usually hear "EVE would get so many more subs if". I call it the "appeal to CCPs wallet".
And yet these guys want something changed (that they refuse to adapt to) while refusing to acknoledge the fact that any such change would hurt EVE by lowering the number of paid subscriptions (and putting a damp on the plex market, which is what isbox kiddies use to fund their accounts, which in turn still means more cash money for CCP).
You can petition all you like. You can bump this thread till EVE dies in 20 years when Star Citizen finally comes out (lol). You can stomp your feet all day long while abusing the petition system. It's just not going to change.
And this goes for every one with some ludicrous (and oh so easy to counter) pet peeve, be it isboxer, afk cloaking, freighter ganking or whatever. Sorry, CCP isn't going to play EVE for you, you need to learn how to do it.
Yea it's a terrible response when always faced with "vote with your wallets".
We call it "posturing" lol. People use the same arguments with RMTing as well. "But my favourite visual experience in Eve was a pipebombing run on a digital projector. Sure, the aliasing can never match the perfection of a 2160p image - but you can't beat a five metre space volcano on your wall." - Lord Maldoror(RnK)
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
2587
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Posted - 2013.08.16 18:46:00 -
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TKL HUN wrote:
You are wrong, banning a 3rd party software is not changing EVE.
Anyway, if it's weak minded, why do you care?
Just calling em like I see em.
The funniest part is that most people in this thread are like me and don't have a problem with ISBoxer kiddies doing their thing. You seem to think that starting this discussion (which has been around as long as isboxer) and keeping it going is going to have some effect.
The effect is that CCP sees support for it's current stance on ISBoxer.......
Congrats, you just made it even less likely that CCP ever bands multiboxing software.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4152
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Posted - 2013.08.16 18:49:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:TKL HUN wrote:You are wrong, banning a 3rd party software is not changing EVE.
Anyway, if it's weak minded, why do you care? The funniest part is that most people in this thread are like me and don't have a problem with ISBoxer kiddies doing their thing. You seem to think that starting this discussion (which has been around as long as isboxer) and keeping it going is going to have some effect. The effect is that CCP sees support for it's current stance on ISBoxer....... Congrats, you just made it even less likely that CCP ever bands multiboxing software. Great stuff, I was thinking about isboxer. Lyris Nairn reports good things about it.
Maybe using it to multibox torp bombers for the next CFC sov war. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
449
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Posted - 2013.08.16 19:04:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:TKL HUN wrote:
You are wrong, banning a 3rd party software is not changing EVE.
Anyway, if it's weak minded, why do you care?
Just calling em like I see em. The funniest part is that most people in this thread are like me and don't have a problem with ISBoxer kiddies doing their thing. You seem to think that starting this discussion (which has been around as long as isboxer) and keeping it going is going to have some effect. The effect is that CCP sees support for it's current stance on ISBoxer....... Congrats, you just made it even less likely that CCP ever bands multiboxing software.
My issue comes from I do not mind arguing the semantics of what the program does, it's when people use the "but CCP said it's all right to use it" when that isn't really the nature of the argument in the first place lol.
For isntance, something I read earlier today on TM.com in reference to multi boxing still means you are soloing. If you are considered coloing because you multibox, then it's a bot.
If it's not a bot, you are not soloing while you multibox.
That kind of discussion I can get involved with.
"But my favourite visual experience in Eve was a pipebombing run on a digital projector. Sure, the aliasing can never match the perfection of a 2160p image - but you can't beat a five metre space volcano on your wall." - Lord Maldoror(RnK)
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Ressiv
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.08.16 22:09:00 -
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...reading up on the forums .. glad the drama persisted
OT: The OP complains about the multiboxer not controling 10 clients, but uses an advanced interface (not available for everybody) to issue commands to 10 different client instances, probably automated in-part and getting a 1-up on others not using that software.
There is no point in comparing that to him also handling 2 clients at the same time, as he does that manualy without aid.
In effect tho, this half-automated blob player is not flexible beyond what he pre-programmed, and given the large number of clients the likelyhood of him manualy kicking your ass while controlling 50 clients is virtualy non-existant. So it takes some thinkning (you know, the thing you only use when forming arguments against valid advice) to find a weak spot and abuse the living **** out of it till he either adapts and you get to rinse and repeat, or he finds another system.
Also, this half automated blob player presents pvp content for the game, keeps accounts subbed and created a reason for there being Merc corps and friends .. and he presents a spontanious goal.
He could just as easily be a whole corp with 20 players all dualboxing .. you'd have the same issue and no supposed argument at all. 'yeah but he isnt' is not a valid argument either .. it just shows you're mad bro. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4153
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Posted - 2013.08.16 22:23:00 -
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This thread is about people being mad. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3438
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Posted - 2013.08.16 22:31:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Multiboxing drone assist ships. Mmm
Calling the new CFC doctrine "Das ISBoot"
The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3438
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Posted - 2013.08.16 22:35:00 -
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Murk Paradox wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:So you're telling me that the open thread in Assembly Hall is locked? Mallak Azaria wrote:Pubbies don't bother to check Each link I clicked were locked... are you trying to say that one link out of all of those you posted was unlocked? If so, why link the others? Just post the 1 unlocked link and call it a day. BTW, they are all locked still.(And yes, I checked them all again just now in case maybe I missed one). So I am telling you, your links are locked. Which is what I said earlier, and what I am still saying now. Check your own links please.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2775818#post2775818 is not locked. The point was, since you very clearly missed the very obvious point, is that threads about this topic already exist & that pubbies, much like yourself, never bother to check anything ever if threads on the topic already exist that you could contribute to further
The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4161
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Posted - 2013.08.16 22:36:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Multiboxing drone assist ships. Mmm Calling the new CFC doctrine "Das ISBoot" Yeah. That's pretty good actually. Each person quadboxes either Dominixes or logistics. You assign your drones then if you are being shot you flip to that dominix and broadcast. Obviously logistics rep the broadcasts. Wonderful. You can even have your dominixes rep one another if you think about how it might be done with prelocking.
We can turn a 1000-man fleet into 4000, a while 6VDT by ourselves if everyone had 4 accounts. And then steal Jita node, moving the people there to a lesser node where they will 30% TiDi all day. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3444
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Posted - 2013.08.16 22:39:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Multiboxing drone assist ships. Mmm Calling the new CFC doctrine "Das ISBoot" Yeah. That's pretty good actually. Each person quadboxes either Dominixes or logistics. You assign your drones then if you are being shot you flip to that dominix and broadcast. Obviously logistics rep the broadcasts. Wonderful. You can even have your dominixes rep one another if you think about how it might be done with prelocking. We can turn a 1000-man fleet into 4000, a while 6VDT by ourselves if everyone had 4 accounts. And then steal Jita node, moving the people there to a lesser node where they will 30% TiDi all day.
If the rental program is a success, we could upgrade everyone to carriers for 'Das ISuberboot'. Carriers for every bee!
The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4161
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Posted - 2013.08.16 22:42:00 -
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It would probably be nicer if you had your 4 dominixes (subcap support) on one screen and then a blap dread on the other screen. With the number of dominixes you have on field, it's not necessary to have carriers. But to beat up (supercaps) the dreads will do a good job. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3444
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Posted - 2013.08.16 22:51:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:It would probably be nicer if you had your 4 dominixes (subcap support) on one screen and then a blap dread on the other screen. With the number of dominixes you have on field, it's not necessary to have carriers. But to beat up (supercaps) the dreads will do a good job.
Carriers double both the drone damage output & the forum rage from the opposing fleet. It's not as cost-efficient as Domi's, but since when have we cared about that? The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4165
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Posted - 2013.08.17 01:20:00 -
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True, but the dominix has those range and tracking bonuses. So good, they had to be nerfed, you gotta abuse that. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3444
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Posted - 2013.08.17 02:17:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:True, but the dominix has those range and tracking bonuses. So good, they had to be nerfed, you gotta abuse that.
This is true. It's also easier to multibox 20 dominix than it is to multibox 4 carriers.
The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4167
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Posted - 2013.08.17 02:33:00 -
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Blobbing: even more terrifying with isboxers. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites United Federation of Commerce
1046
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Posted - 2013.08.17 12:33:00 -
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what about multiboxing multiboxers? [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
SabersKunk Dallocort
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.08.17 13:10:00 -
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Grimpak wrote:what about multiboxing multiboxers?
eveception |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites United Federation of Commerce
1046
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Posted - 2013.08.17 14:00:00 -
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SabersKunk Dallocort wrote:Grimpak wrote:what about multiboxing multiboxers? eveception
\o/ [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
449
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Posted - 2013.08.17 14:04:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:So you're telling me that the open thread in Assembly Hall is locked? Mallak Azaria wrote:Pubbies don't bother to check Each link I clicked were locked... are you trying to say that one link out of all of those you posted was unlocked? If so, why link the others? Just post the 1 unlocked link and call it a day. BTW, they are all locked still.(And yes, I checked them all again just now in case maybe I missed one). So I am telling you, your links are locked. Which is what I said earlier, and what I am still saying now. Check your own links please. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2775818#post2775818 is not locked. The point was, since you very clearly missed the very obvious point, is that threads about this topic already exist & that pubbies, much like yourself, never bother to check anything ever if threads on the topic already exist that you could contribute to further
How cute, your use of the word "pubbie" (like it would mean anything to anyone else?) because you say I do not use the search to call you on your locked links?
You are just overwhelming a reply with use of irrelevant links (they were locked!) to show why the OP could not be involved into a different discussion at the cost of his creating his own.
Your grasp on 20/20 hindsight vision is astounding sir.
tl;dr- your links were bad, you posted badly, deal with it.
"But my favourite visual experience in Eve was a pipebombing run on a digital projector. Sure, the aliasing can never match the perfection of a 2160p image - but you can't beat a five metre space volcano on your wall." - Lord Maldoror(RnK)
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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
781
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Posted - 2013.08.17 19:50:00 -
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Murk Paradox wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:So you're telling me that the open thread in Assembly Hall is locked? Mallak Azaria wrote:Pubbies don't bother to check Each link I clicked were locked... are you trying to say that one link out of all of those you posted was unlocked? If so, why link the others? Just post the 1 unlocked link and call it a day. BTW, they are all locked still.(And yes, I checked them all again just now in case maybe I missed one). So I am telling you, your links are locked. Which is what I said earlier, and what I am still saying now. Check your own links please. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2775818#post2775818 is not locked. The point was, since you very clearly missed the very obvious point, is that threads about this topic already exist & that pubbies, much like yourself, never bother to check anything ever if threads on the topic already exist that you could contribute to further How cute, your use of the word "pubbie" (like it would mean anything to anyone else?Yes, I do not pay money to somethingawful.com so I am a "pubbie"[oh look, I CAN look up locked articles and find information!]) because you say I do not use the search to call you on your locked links? You are just overwhelming a reply with use of irrelevant links (they were locked!) to show why the OP could not be involved into a different discussion at the cost of his creating his own. Your grasp on 20/20 hindsight vision is astounding sir. tl;dr- your links were bad, you posted badly, deal with it.
3 out of 4 pubbies agree with this post.
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TKL HUN
Jugis Modo Utopia pwn-O-graphy
27
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Posted - 2013.08.18 10:55:00 -
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SmokinDank wrote:TKL HUN wrote:Personal attacks? What are you talking about? Haha those posts you made that got the thread locked and cleaned. I guess I can understand why you can't see them through your veil of tears.
I have no clue what are you talking about. |
TKL HUN
Jugis Modo Utopia pwn-O-graphy
27
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Posted - 2013.08.18 10:59:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:This thread is about people being mad.
You my troll lfriend are wrong. |
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