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Nicen Jehr
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2013.08.02 17:32:00 -
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via http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/the-first-manned-mission-to-europa-is-about-to-start-crowd-funding
Kristian Von Bengston is the founder of Copenhagen Suborbitals. This is a group of hobbyists who decided they were serious about building their own manned suborbital launch vehicle. So far they have successfully launched their rocket and capsule with a test dummy inside.
Previously their group built a submarine for USD $200,000. They used the sub to push their floating rocket launchpad for their first launch attempt 2 years ago. wikipedia wrote:A launch attempt was made on Sunday 5 September 2010 14:43 CEST, but the motor could not be started due to a failure of the LOX valve which is assumed to be caused by insufficient heating of the valve. The design famously included a consumer hair dryer for defrosting the LOX-valve; in effect it was not the blow-dryer but its power supply that failed. (although it looks like they have since added engines to the launchpad and launched the rocket.)
Anyway, now Kristian is apparently starting crowdfunding the long term research needed for a project to send a manned mission to Europa.
motherboard wrote: GÇ£ItGÇÖs the one body in the solar system that has the biggest potential for extraterrestrial life,GÇ¥ said Bengtson. GÇ£ItGÇÖs where you want to go.GÇ¥
He explained, GÇ£You canGÇÖt go to Venus because thereGÇÖs 500 bars of pressure and acid rain. Forget about it. Mars is just so last millennium. ItGÇÖs just boring; itGÇÖs desert. So where else to go? The next step is Jupiter and there youGÇÖve got this beautiful ice planet.GÇ¥
Bengtson is a Danish GÇ£space-architectGÇ¥ and designer by education, who has worked with NASA and blogs for Wired. As we spoke, it became clear that the complexity of reaching and exploring EuropaGÇöthat is, sending someone hundreds of millions of miles, landing on the icy surface, bursting through and exploring the watery world belowGÇöwas part of the appeal.
When I asked him GÇ£Why Europa?GÇ¥ he talked about the possibility of life for a while before admitting GÇ£And also I just think itGÇÖd be cool. Landing on ice? Then you penetrate the crust? And turning your space capsule into a submersible? IsnGÇÖt that the coolest mission you could ever do?GÇ¥ From a design and engineering standpoint, itGÇÖs hard not to agree.
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Eurydia Vespasian
Nova Insula Mining and Industrial
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Posted - 2013.08.02 20:54:00 -
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might need more than a hair dryer to get through europa. |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.02 21:05:00 -
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Mars is too hard to go to, let's go out further! "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
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Mizhir
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.02 22:10:00 -
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Seems like us Vikings are once again trying to settle the one of the coldest place we can find We will never forget you Saede!
I bet you dont see things like this so often in EVE |
Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.08.02 23:49:00 -
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To get under the ice at Europa they would need to have a nuclear fuel source, don't think they can cover the costs of that. At that distance from the Sun there is not much viable energy being received, even on Mars we are turning to Nuclear power as our demands scale sufficiently to warrant it.
And Europa? The darling of life in the system beyond Terra is Titan
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Grimpak
Midnight Elites United Federation of Commerce
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Posted - 2013.08.03 00:50:00 -
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the problem about Europa is not the moon itself, but the fact that is around the second most radioactive place on the solar system afaik.
Jupiter's radiation belts are quite strong. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Inokuma Yawara
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.03 01:26:00 -
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Before they can think about tech that can reach Jupiter and come back, they have to solve the medical side of things first. Humans can barely survive a year in orbit. The most they stay in orbit is six months at a time. During that time, the astronauts atrophy. They lose muscle and bone mass. They also, it was recently discovered, develop vision problems. Outer space is dangerous to human physiology. A trip to Jupiter and back will be quite a few years long. So, just from a medical stand point, it's not possible.
Solve the medical issue first, the tech is easy, the medical is not. Watch this space.-á New exciting signature in development. |
Eurydia Vespasian
Nova Insula Mining and Industrial
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Posted - 2013.08.03 03:35:00 -
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Inokuma Yawara wrote:Before they can think about tech that can reach Jupiter and come back, they have to solve the medical side of things first. Humans can barely survive a year in orbit. The most they stay in orbit is six months at a time. During that time, the astronauts atrophy. They lose muscle and bone mass. They also, it was recently discovered, develop vision problems. Outer space is dangerous to human physiology. A trip to Jupiter and back will be quite a few years long. So, just from a medical stand point, it's not possible.
Solve the medical issue first, the tech is easy, the medical is not.
just need a little gravity.
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Hesod Adee
Turalyon Plus
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Posted - 2013.08.03 03:43:00 -
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Grimpak wrote:the problem about Europa is not the moon itself, but the fact that is around the second most radioactive place on the solar system afaik. Jupiter's radiation belts are quite strong. ah here it is: wikipedia wrote:The radiation level at the surface of Europa is equivalent to a dose of about 5400mSv (540 rem) per day, an amount of radiation that would cause severe illness or death in human beings exposed for a single day. How think does the ice need to be to block the radiation ?
Because if there is life on Europa, it will be under the ice. Not on the surface. |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites United Federation of Commerce
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Posted - 2013.08.03 03:58:00 -
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Hesod Adee wrote:Grimpak wrote:the problem about Europa is not the moon itself, but the fact that is around the second most radioactive place on the solar system afaik. Jupiter's radiation belts are quite strong. ah here it is: wikipedia wrote:The radiation level at the surface of Europa is equivalent to a dose of about 5400mSv (540 rem) per day, an amount of radiation that would cause severe illness or death in human beings exposed for a single day. How think does the ice need to be to block the radiation ? Because if there is life on Europa, it will be under the ice. Not on the surface. oh I'm not saying the life there, I'm saying the life here
for all that matters, Jupiter has 4 moons that might be excellent resource troves (Io for example). the problem is the fact that any thing manned needs extremely high radiation shielding to even think about approaching Jupiter. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
2014
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Posted - 2013.08.03 04:08:00 -
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Oh **** dawg, it's like Kerbal in real life. Not sure if I should help, I've lost a lot of the little buggers. Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel IG OOPE |
Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
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Posted - 2013.08.03 04:27:00 -
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Micheal Dietrich wrote:Oh **** dawg, it's like Kerbal in real life. Not sure if I should help, I've lost a lot of the little buggers.
But they died with a stupid grin on their face.
Thats gotta count for something. "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commisar Kate |
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
2015
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Posted - 2013.08.03 15:57:00 -
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Graygor wrote:Micheal Dietrich wrote:Oh **** dawg, it's like Kerbal in real life. Not sure if I should help, I've lost a lot of the little buggers. But they died with a stupid grin on their face. Thats gotta count for something.
I'm pretty sure most of mine had that shitting their pants look. Out of Pod is getting In the Pod - Join in game channel IG OOPE |
Hells Merc
mUfFiN fAcToRy Tribal Band
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Posted - 2013.08.04 17:56:00 -
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Itty bitty steps works better.... the space station thingy is too susceptible to blowing up or something, that **** happens all the time in Russia.
I would concentrate on moon bases.
Don't be alarmed this will not happen
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Q 5
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.04 19:36:00 -
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seems to me the way to resolve this is to find a way to place a human consciousness into a robotic machine then you wouldn't have to worry so much about the radiation or any of the other limitations of the body. |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites United Federation of Commerce
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Posted - 2013.08.04 19:40:00 -
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Q 5 wrote:seems to me the way to resolve this is to find a way to place a human consciousness into a robotic machine then you wouldn't have to worry so much about the radiation or any of the other limitations of the body. cyborgs, there's even the probability of using gene manipulation, but that's a landmine right there. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
15541
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Posted - 2013.08.05 00:48:00 -
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Eurydia Vespasian wrote:Inokuma Yawara wrote:Before they can think about tech that can reach Jupiter and come back, they have to solve the medical side of things first. Humans can barely survive a year in orbit. The most they stay in orbit is six months at a time. During that time, the astronauts atrophy. They lose muscle and bone mass. They also, it was recently discovered, develop vision problems. Outer space is dangerous to human physiology. A trip to Jupiter and back will be quite a few years long. So, just from a medical stand point, it's not possible.
Solve the medical issue first, the tech is easy, the medical is not. just need a little gravity.
That ought to do it "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
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