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DANGEROUS
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Posted - 2005.12.20 15:12:00 -
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CCP are really NOT doing their jobs. Let me explain what is happening in the north at the moment. IRON and bob are having a POS war in JU. This is a MOST important time for all those who want to PLAY this game. a short list of the faults and ccps reaction 1) POS go into reinforced mode all on their own without having been shot - when this is petioned because of the huge problems caused by RMR ccp cannot accomodate in real time. - - what does this mean - well as and when ccp actually get there backsides into gear the pos will be gone and soveignity will be SOLIDLY in bobs favour. 2)when we chose to engage the hostile fleet by a pos - guess what happens - well firstly the pos shield KICKS the IRON membbers out it. Secondly it wont allow them to get back in it even thought hte settings are all ok. But the Funniest thing is - we have lost a shed load of ships that actually DID get back inside the pos shie dand yet the bob fleet were able to target and shoot at our forces. We will petion, but hey guess what - - theres a huge queue and by the time we actually see anything from ccp the tactical advantage will have been lost!! - DO U FEEEL LIKE U ARE PAYING FOR A LOTTERY ???? 3) - we have lost 2 dreads to simple bouncing bugs. - can a frigate ReEALLY bounce a dread 8km off a station??? should the second dread - whihc was actually piloted by the pos owner bounced him OFF the pos. again we petion - but in the name of CCP our pilot was told that no - he gets no special attention just because he has lost dreadds improperly. To me this is UTTERLY unacceptable. - - there is a small chance that this will seriously afect IRONS ability to defend their space. and i put another point to u. dreads are teh rolls royce of ships. if u owned a rolls royce and were treated like a vauxhall owner would u bother ??? This situation is so TOTALLY ridiculous that i can honstly say that nearly ALL the fun has gone from EVE. We regularly participate in activites that are ground breaking. We regulary have GMs appear and watch what we do. YET - - - when we REALLY try and USE this game THAT WE PAY FOR - - we cannot - NOR can we get what ew need back fast enough for us to continue the fight.
I personally request as firmly as i can that CCP give this their HIGHEST priority, before the people that trully use this environment consider other games!!!
i remind u CCP - we are the PAYING customer!
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2005.12.20 15:14:00 -
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Note: This person, while frequently using "we", does not speak for me.
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Tennotsukai
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Posted - 2005.12.20 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink Note: This person, while frequently using "we", does not speak for me.
Thats strange... He doesn't speak for me either, coincidence?
"scotty, i need more power to warp out."
"i canna give yer any more captain, the dilithium crystal was nerfed this morning.. yer just gonna have ta face it, we've been ganked." |
Nahual
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Posted - 2005.12.20 15:19:00 -
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he's speaking from an IRON view point guys...
And logistically this past week has...been screwed completely up.
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Zuki Ed
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Posted - 2005.12.20 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: DANGEROUS CCP are really NOT doing their jobs. Let me explain what is happening in the north at the moment. IRON and bob are having a POS war in JU. This is a MOST important time for all those who want to PLAY this game. a short list of the faults and ccps reaction 1) POS go into reinforced mode all on their own without having been shot - when this is petioned because of the huge problems caused by RMR ccp cannot accomodate in real time. - - what does this mean - well as and when ccp actually get there backsides into gear the pos will be gone and soveignity will be SOLIDLY in bobs favour. 2)when we chose to engage the hostile fleet by a pos - guess what happens - well firstly the pos shield KICKS the IRON membbers out it. Secondly it wont allow them to get back in it even thought hte settings are all ok. But the Funniest thing is - we have lost a shed load of ships that actually DID get back inside the pos shie dand yet the bob fleet were able to target and shoot at our forces. We will petion, but hey guess what - - theres a huge queue and by the time we actually see anything from ccp the tactical advantage will have been lost!! - DO U FEEEL LIKE U ARE PAYING FOR A LOTTERY ???? 3) - we have lost 2 dreads to simple bouncing bugs. - can a frigate ReEALLY bounce a dread 8km off a station??? should the second dread - whihc was actually piloted by the pos owner bounced him OFF the pos. again we petion - but in the name of CCP our pilot was told that no - he gets no special attention just because he has lost dreadds improperly. To me this is UTTERLY unacceptable. - - there is a small chance that this will seriously afect IRONS ability to defend their space. and i put another point to u. dreads are teh rolls royce of ships. if u owned a rolls royce and were treated like a vauxhall owner would u bother ??? This situation is so TOTALLY ridiculous that i can honstly say that nearly ALL the fun has gone from EVE. We regularly participate in activites that are ground breaking. We regulary have GMs appear and watch what we do. YET - - - when we REALLY try and USE this game THAT WE PAY FOR - - we cannot - NOR can we get what ew need back fast enough for us to continue the fight.
I personally request as firmly as i can that CCP give this their HIGHEST priority, before the people that trully use this environment consider other games!!!
i remind u CCP - we are the PAYING customer!
Seems to be a little bit of an egoistic view to me . We are all experiencing problems and it's not that some people are more important than others, they are paying customers too you know.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.12.20 15:24:00 -
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- we have lost a shed load of ships that actually DID get back inside the pos shie dand yet the bob fleet were able to target and shoot at our forces.
Then you saw more then I did.
Yes, I was able to shoot people that were about on the edge of the forcefield again. Like explained in the past, what you see is not always what you get in a quite laggy situations....
Well, I agree pos's are bugged to hell and back in every conceivable way and I agree that fact should be adressed asap by CCP.
The rest is whining really. I mean, you are not the only ones using dreads here are you ?
Allright.
Well, at least I didn't see the words h4x or sploit this time round, kudos for that. _______________________________________________
Power to the players !
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2005.12.20 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Nahual he's speaking from an IRON view point guys
So this is an official post from IRON, then? To everyone else it just looks like a rant from someone claiming to speak for the entire playerbase.
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Kurenin
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Posted - 2005.12.20 15:25:00 -
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1.) Turn your turrets and effects on, then you will be able to see that the five dreadnoughts outside fo your POS aren't just there for the view.
2.) This is what happens when you change your pos access password with ships in the bubble! If you'd set up your POS correctly to begin with you'd not have any problem.
3.) Don't make cyno fields on top of the tower.
Also, why should he get special treatment because he can't fly his dread properly, it's no different from being crap at flying other ship types, this is why your space is being lost, not because of bugs.
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Sun Wu
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Posted - 2005.12.20 15:27:00 -
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I just did 50 jumps afk to "IRON" space, I don't think you should be talking about your ability to defend space when clearly such ability doesn't exist to begin with.
and yes, for what it's worth, we won already? I was hoping for atleast a couple fights after bothering to actually log in and fly up here to "your" space. gg.
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Grez
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Posted - 2005.12.20 15:28:00 -
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Personaly, I think you're fools for trying to ogranise a POS war right after RMR was released. You KNEW there were going to be bugs. Yet you go ahead anyway...
Makes NO sense.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.12.20 15:29:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 20/12/2005 15:37:17 Hello,
I can't believe the simple lies you have just posted in a petty attempt to start another smear campaign against BoB.
1. POS go into reinforced mode when our Dreads shoot them.
2. We did not shoot through shields. This was fixed a long time ago. At least it didn't look like it on my screen :|
3. Your Dreads were not on the station when they died. We did not bounce them 8km out, they were already off the station before we were even near them.
If you feel unfairly dealt with then please by all means sent in a petition to the GM's and I am sure it will be dealt with.
Whatever you do, please do not come onto these forums crying because you just got royally owned. It is not becoming of you or your alliance.
Thanks, dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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HostageTaker
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Posted - 2005.12.20 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: DANGEROUS CCP are really NOT doing their jobs. Let me explain what is happening in the north at the moment. IRON and bob are having a POS war in JU. This is a MOST important time for all those who want to PLAY this game.
I personally request as firmly as i can that CCP give this their HIGHEST priority, before the people that trully use this environment consider other games!!!
i remind u CCP - we are the PAYING customer!
Shut the F up! and Sit the F down! Unless you're also paying for all the accounts outside of IRON and BoB, you have no right for such wild demands. What makes your needs any more important than that of a week old player?!
Get a clue and a reality check, then come back and post, or better yet, don't! CCP is doing their best to stabilze the RMR build, they certainly don't need to see your childish rantings...
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DANGEROUS
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Posted - 2005.12.20 15:31:00 -
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thi is not an official IRON post - it is a bit of a rant. - when i refer to WE i refer to those that are trully pushing the boundaries of the mechanics. i do believe that as u read about what is happening with G and IRON and its various tragets on a regular basis that it IS a part of the game that ccp wish to advertise and SHOULD support. With regards to the post regarding not seeing any other dreads - ofcourse u would see other dreads if they hadnt been ganked by bump bugs!!! and finally i wish to state that i do not claim or insinuate that bob are haz or whatever - that is not my style, i am sure that there is NOTHING of the sort happening. What i do know is that we are fighting for the soverginity of OUR space, i am sure that bob came for a fight and not a walkover. with our fleets stuck in the south because of insane lag, with our lead party sent back to defend our space being dogged with terrible pos bugs and dread bugs U are not getting the fight u came for. We all lose. - - - and as the title says - CCP fail us ALL
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Bizarre
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Posted - 2005.12.20 15:32:00 -
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Your spelling was a lot better last night, right before you lost your tempest. :D
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EvilSyKOSkitzo
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Posted - 2005.12.20 15:33:00 -
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Edited by: EvilSyKOSkitzo on 20/12/2005 15:36:18 I should apologise for Dangerous's writing style. He's a bit ****ed..
From what I heard today on teamspeak while trying to join up with the guys to help in the fight in JU. All I can saying i'm doing at the moment is laughing...
The fight seemed to be going ok till the guys started getting targetted and shot within the POS bubble while not able to do the same.
One of the guys was bumping his ships nose against the control tower.
Then when they tried to warp out because of the damage they were suffering they couldn't because they weren't allowed.
It even came to a point where they where all screaming at each other at the top of their lungs out of sheer frustration.
Those who did manage to get out and warp out. Came back in only to get bounced out.
And, then to top it all off three of the guys who lost their ships got fatal errors and crashed.
For a second there I thought I was listening to CCP's comedy hour or something.
Anyways, - Evil
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Fi T'Zeh
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Posted - 2005.12.20 15:33:00 -
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They are not failing me.
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Alts : The forum equivalent of a WCS ?
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Zenst
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Posted - 2005.12.20 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: DANGEROUS CCP are really NOT doing their jobs. Let me explain what is happening in the north at the moment. IRON and bob are having a POS war in JU. This is a MOST important time for all those who want to PLAY this game. a short list of the faults and ccps reaction 1) POS go into reinforced mode all on their own without having been shot - when this is petioned because of the huge problems caused by RMR ccp cannot accomodate in real time. - - what does this mean - well as and when ccp actually get there backsides into gear the pos will be gone and soveignity will be SOLIDLY in bobs favour. 2)when we chose to engage the hostile fleet by a pos - guess what happens - well firstly the pos shield KICKS the IRON membbers out it. Secondly it wont allow them to get back in it even thought hte settings are all ok. But the Funniest thing is - we have lost a shed load of ships that actually DID get back inside the pos shie dand yet the bob fleet were able to target and shoot at our forces. We will petion, but hey guess what - - theres a huge queue and by the time we actually see anything from ccp the tactical advantage will have been lost!! - DO U FEEEL LIKE U ARE PAYING FOR A LOTTERY ???? 3) - we have lost 2 dreads to simple bouncing bugs. - can a frigate ReEALLY bounce a dread 8km off a station??? should the second dread - whihc was actually piloted by the pos owner bounced him OFF the pos. again we petion - but in the name of CCP our pilot was told that no - he gets no special attention just because he has lost dreadds improperly. To me this is UTTERLY unacceptable. - - there is a small chance that this will seriously afect IRONS ability to defend their space. and i put another point to u. dreads are teh rolls royce of ships. if u owned a rolls royce and were treated like a vauxhall owner would u bother ??? This situation is so TOTALLY ridiculous that i can honstly say that nearly ALL the fun has gone from EVE. We regularly participate in activites that are ground breaking. We regulary have GMs appear and watch what we do. YET - - - when we REALLY try and USE this game THAT WE PAY FOR - - we cannot - NOR can we get what ew need back fast enough for us to continue the fight.
I personally request as firmly as i can that CCP give this their HIGHEST priority, before the people that trully use this environment consider other games!!!
i remind u CCP - we are the PAYING customer!
1) POS's are bugged, they dont descriminate.
2) The dreads dead baby
3) No idea as I have a repsonsibility to ones brain cells so gave up reading it all.
CCP - I'm happy and given ALL the facts you chaps do a stand up job albiet feeling like your downwind of a cow farm and windfarm sometimes.
That said the poster either has a point and as such is discussing expliots of some form or waffeling like a lame duck.
Given the post is here still I can conclude that you have moved into competition with several heating ducts and are in need of venting (as indicated above). had your post not been here or like totaly removed X-Files stylee then you would be totaly right and of course what i'm saying here wouldn;t matter one bit as that would go as well.
Its a game, you lost a few rounds, learn and adapt and stop blaming the tools. that said I will say that POS do have quirks and NO expliots or lame tactics were used in the killing of your dreads which from what i can tell from all accounts was fair and squiare and only question was given the fittings was were you intending to selfdestruct them anyway.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.12.20 15:36:00 -
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Well, thats allright then
I mean, not meaning to accuse of and stuff. We tend to get defensive fast nowadays since the new fad of shouting sploitage! at us took off a while back.
Anyway, pos are bugged to hell, we know, thats why we try to support ccp actively in solving the issues by inviting them to come watch when we do stuff involving sovereignty and pos's and so on.
I firmly believe they try, but we cant expect this to be their only or main concern, and most certainly not at this time.
Try helping them out as aqctively as we do, and maybe we'll get to see some improvement in due time. In the mean while, just assume things will get screwed up, we do and we seem to do fine. _______________________________________________
Power to the players !
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DANGEROUS
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Posted - 2005.12.20 15:38:00 -
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LOL - the reaction from u lot is laughable ))
1) there are several pos in reinfored mode that have not ben fired on at all 2) the ships that were shot we al TOUCHING the tower - 3) - the concept that u are trying to defend is again laughable - it will be interesting quoting u lot in the near future. - the MIGHTLY bob - - as i assure u - - the force u face now is not the force u have ever faced before.
And as far as these comments about crying and whinging etc - -u may think whatever u want - really u may. i am ANGRY - - i WANT to fight u - - not get owned by stupid programme defects.
in last regard to the person who said why start a pos war. we didnt - well not up north, ours was in the south not the north.
u may smack all u want BoB - - i can assure u that the person who has the last laugh ALWAYS laughs the hardest. i ASSURE u - that u forum warrriors will not be able to turn the cause of events, or weaken IRON, or indeed convince the general populus that u will be successful.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.12.20 15:40:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 20/12/2005 15:40:57 Oh look, a nice smakpost from you.
Kthx now go cry into your tissues and bring back another fleet to get smashed.
Chaining IRON is even more fun than chaining FA was.
Also, shouldn't it be you doing the defending concept thing, since it is, after all, your space?
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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patch
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Posted - 2005.12.20 15:40:00 -
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your a joke
Originally by: "bUBbLeS" they dont have rollercoatsers in france
he was trying to figure out how to turn it over and set it on fire
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Ayla Vanir
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Posted - 2005.12.20 15:42:00 -
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Quote: This is a MOST important time for all those who want to PLAY this game.
Who is Iron Bob? Does he drop implants? If he's got a problem with bouncing dreadlocks see a stylist or something because that doesn't really matter to a player that can't move their ship, get unstuck, or keep a connection long enough to do anything other than type 'ffs' into their corp chat.
Not that Iron Bob shouldn't be upset, but just that there's a lot of people playing EVE here, and EVE is NOT just about playing Guild Wars in the North. To be constructive, I can only suggest trying to sort things out between Iron Bob and his stylist and maybe agree to continuing working on his dreads and such at a later date. In the meantime, keep filing those petitions. It can't hurt, and may even help Iron Bob out at some point. Good luck.
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Rodge
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Posted - 2005.12.20 15:45:00 -
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A lot of us players are having problems simply logging in and staying connected. I believe that has a much higher priority at the minute than your rant.
Yet, I don't go round shouting about it on the forums. Everyone knows that the game is buggy at the minute, like it always is just after a big patch. I have no doubt CCP are doing everything they can to fix the issues, and keep up with the petitions as they come in.
When you're logging in, click on the article by GM Arkanon. You'll get an idea of how big the petition queue is. Just because a pilot can't fly a dread correctly is no reason to be bumped up the petition queue.
[ 2005.04.17 00:34:30 ] Nagilam > u better leave Rodge, u will not gank any1 else 2nite......
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.12.20 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: DANGEROUS 3) - we have lost 2 dreads to simple bouncing bugs. - can a frigate ReEALLY bounce a dread 8km off a station???
No, a frigate can't - warchiId bounced Diabolique out of docking range because both of your dreads undocked at the same time.
They both entered siege mode. One in docking range, the other not.
Everything was legit and above board.
Tho, yes, the frigate bumping thing SHOULD be fixed - it wasn't the culprit of that loss.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
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Budvar50
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Posted - 2005.12.20 15:48:00 -
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must not.... must resist.... must not....[cut short by asphixiation]
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DANGEROUS
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Posted - 2005.12.20 15:50:00 -
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i enjoy neing chained )) thanks - - i would appreciate as many digs as possible. please post here BoB - all the funny flame about how uber u are - how bad we are and so forth. u know - - like u usually do the more of that u can give the happier u make ALL G and Iron forces. We generally do our talking ith our weps. - As ascn found out. - o dear look i left myself open to commetns like - WHo owns azn now etc etc - - - well indeed - as u and ascn clearly decided to work together u gave us little choice but to withdraw. - however let me point ouut the similarities - - ascn spouted all over the forums - - ascn dismissed us as not a threat - - ascn beefed themselves up on the forums. - - sound famailiar?? to those not heavily into the politics of eve - know that bob(like ascn) have a reputatin for forum whoring etc - - G and IROn gernerally do not. - we just kill - - or die - - - but histiry states will kill a HELL of a lot more than we lose - - a lesson that u - bob - will discover soon. Assuming ccp actually sort out this game so that it CAN be played.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2005.12.20 15:53:00 -
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You truly are an asset to IRON.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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dimensionZ
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Posted - 2005.12.20 15:54:00 -
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RUN TO THE HILLS /o\ - - - No seriously - - what i think is - - that you should stop whining and - - bring some more battleships, and oh, - - - more dreads please - - Stop. Communication terminated - - Stop.
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Ja5on
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Posted - 2005.12.20 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: DANGEROUS dreads are teh rolls royce of ships. if u owned a rolls royce and were treated like a vauxhall owner would u bother ???
maybe its cos your rolls royce had cheap plastic t1 fittings and the GM's are punishing you for making your rolls royce look like a vauxhall
TomB [XXPIM] lightly hits you, doing 7890.8 damage. |
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Posted - 2005.12.20 15:54:00 -
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intresting, you speak for g aswell?, i can assure you nothing you have will ever scare us we have pulled you all down b4 and will do so again. Maybe you should stop crying like a 3 year old and get you forces to actually try and fight us, i mean afterall you are like the director of both iron and g arent you
Originally by: "bUBbLeS" they dont have rollercoatsers in france
he was trying to figure out how to turn it over and set it on fire
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