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Countesss
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.27 14:40:00 -
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The MD awards thread got me thinking, who do you consider to be apart of the MD elite? So who are the trusted gurus of this community. At the end of the thread I'll compile any eve-mail or posts here for the final count. The one catch is they must still be active.
Yes this has been done before, but as we all know in this community people come and go and opinions change.
The MD Elite, my personal list from the other thread: Tornsoul Ray McCormack Grendell Hexxx Amarr Citizen 155 Proton Power Akita T Femintaki |
AureoLion
Etoilles Mortant Ltd. Solyaris Chtonium
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Posted - 2011.10.27 14:47:00 -
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No raw23 & flakeys? Sure, i'm following MD only since a year and half, but still |
flakeys
The Great cornholio's Paper Tiger Coalition
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Posted - 2011.10.27 14:47:00 -
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Countesss wrote:The MD awards thread got me thinking, who do you consider to be apart of the MD elite? So who are the trusted gurus of this community. At the end of the thread I'll compile any eve-mail or posts here for the final count. The one catch is they must still be active.
Yes this has been done before, but as we all know in this community people come and go and opinions change.
The MD Elite, my personal list from the other thread: Tornsoul Ray McCormack Grendell Hexxx Amarr Citizen 155 Proton Power Akita T Femintaki
Besides how i feel about any rating , it might be MD award rating , it might be a rating for loans etc , i'll give a simple reply.
Ask yourself what is elite?Is it the input you make on the MD forum?Is it the amount of isk you can loan?
Look at the names you have there , now look them up in eve-search.Now check the total amount of posts they make on average in a month on MD forum wich does NOT have anything to do with loans etc.For instance grendell asking for a loan , ray and AC commenting on E-bank progressions.I think you'd get between 1 to a max of 10 posts of wich a lot are quick replies/trolling fun.I can at least think of a HUGE amount of names who contribute more to the daily things on MD then those above.
The only one out i'd say is akita who also does not post a lot BUT all the posts he/she makes here are purely market related.SO in short IF anyone deserves an MD award akita would be my top one because of the deep insight he/she has in the market. |
flakeys
The Great cornholio's Paper Tiger Coalition
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Posted - 2011.10.27 14:50:00 -
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AureoLion wrote:No raw23 & flakeys? Sure, i'm following MD only since a year and half, but still
Raw i posted with my alt to reflect our butthurt for not being on that list. |
flakeys
The Great cornholio's Paper Tiger Coalition
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Posted - 2011.10.27 14:50:00 -
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flakeys wrote:AureoLion wrote:No raw23 & flakeys? Sure, i'm following MD only since a year and half, but still Raw i posted with my alt to reflect our sadness for not being on that list.
Oh **** isn't this the mailbox ... crap |
Countesss
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.27 14:51:00 -
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The list is not for any purpose other then fun and curiosity about peoples opinions. So for me the idea of an MD elite is somebody who's been around a long time who has the respect/trust of a large part the community.
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Elise DarkStar
DarkCorp Capital Group DarkCorp Imperium
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:02:00 -
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Akita T because he actually talks about market issues and is frighteningly knowledgeable and insightful, thereby making him "elite" in that respect.
I personally like Ray and AC because they're hilarious, but that's better suited to a list of "md characters" as opposed to "elites". |
RAW23
B And H Drive Yards
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:10:00 -
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Elise DarkStar wrote:Akita T because he actually talks about market issues and is frighteningly knowledgeable and insightful, thereby making him "elite" in that respect.
I personally like Ray and AC because they're hilarious, but that's better suited to a list of "md characters" as opposed to "elites".
I thought I was King
Btw, did you resign from the Council? You used to have full access to the official tally of MD rep points. |
AureoLion
Etoilles Mortant Ltd. Solyaris Chtonium
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:10:00 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=8942 If you need any more reason to place Raw23 on the Elites, i really don't know what to tell. Also, confirming i'm a flakeys alt! (not.) |
Countesss
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:11:00 -
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Elise DarkStar wrote:Akita T because he actually talks about market issues and is frighteningly knowledgeable and insightful, thereby making him "elite" in that respect.
I personally like Ray and AC because they're hilarious, but that's better suited to a list of "md characters" as opposed to "elites".
Ray def gets my vote for being hilarious. He's gotten funnier since he took over things at EBANK with his "I dont give a ****, deal with it" attitude. |
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Wyke Mossari
Staner Industries
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:11:00 -
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flakeys wrote:
Look at the names you have there , now look them up in eve-search.Now check the total amount of posts they make on average in a month on MD forum wich does NOT have anything to do with loans etc.For instance grendell asking for a loan , ray and AC commenting on E-bank progressions.I think you'd get between 1 to a max of 10 posts of wich a lot are quick replies/trolling fun.I can at least think of a HUGE amount of names who contribute more to the daily things on MD then those above.
The only one out i'd say is akita who also does not post a lot BUT all the posts he/she makes here are purely market related.SO in short IF anyone deserves an MD award akita would be my top one because of the deep insight he/she has in the market.
There is no MD elite, because as flakey says, there too many criteria, working capital available, leverage/ venture capital at work, influence, opinion forming, insight, new thinking, knowledge, Number of IPO/Bonds completed, scams completed. Few of that list excel in more than one of two criteria and I would struggle to choose one to place in even most categorise, never mind all.
This only becomes a meaningful exercise if reasons are expressed.
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Countesss
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:13:00 -
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AureoLion wrote:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=8942 If you need any more reason to place Raw23 on the Elites, i really don't know what to tell. Also, confirming i'm a flakeys alt! (not.)
it's really not some official list or anything, just fun. So if you think they should be there, throw in your opinion and I'll tally up everyone's opinion down the line to see where the opinions stand. |
Elise DarkStar
DarkCorp Capital Group DarkCorp Imperium
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:14:00 -
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RAW23 wrote:I thought I was King
You're the King of a bygone, rotten, and corrupt institution that actually has nothing to do with "Market Discussions".
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Countesss
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:15:00 -
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Wyke Mossari wrote:flakeys wrote:
Look at the names you have there , now look them up in eve-search.Now check the total amount of posts they make on average in a month on MD forum wich does NOT have anything to do with loans etc.For instance grendell asking for a loan , ray and AC commenting on E-bank progressions.I think you'd get between 1 to a max of 10 posts of wich a lot are quick replies/trolling fun.I can at least think of a HUGE amount of names who contribute more to the daily things on MD then those above.
The only one out i'd say is akita who also does not post a lot BUT all the posts he/she makes here are purely market related.SO in short IF anyone deserves an MD award akita would be my top one because of the deep insight he/she has in the market.
There is no MD elite, because as flakey says, there too many criteria, working capital available, leverage/ venture capital at work, influence, opinion forming, insight, new thinking, knowledge, Number of IPO/Bonds completed, scams completed. Few of that list excel in more than one of two criteria and I would struggle to choose one to place in even most categorise, never mind all. This only becomes a meaningful exercise if reasons are expressed.
There is no real criteria in an opinion. MD Elite has always been a matter of opinion, not numbers or ideas. |
RAW23
B And H Drive Yards
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:21:00 -
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AureoLion wrote:https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=8942 If you need any more reason to place Raw23 on the Elites, i really don't know what to tell. Also, confirming i'm a flakeys alt! (not.)
I did not want reminding that I need to finish that project! Thanks a bunch.
In general, the idea of 'elites' on MD is a pretty dangerous one. There are people who post a lot, people who add drama and comedy, people who are insightful, people you trust, etc. If you want to use the term 'elite' for pretty much anything other than trust and authority I don't have a problem with it. But once elite labels, trust and authority start going together you then get very dubious institutions that perpetuate themselves and rarely do a good job. The fact that half the names on Countess's list have been involved in some of the biggest financial catastrophes in MD's history goes to show how dangerous the label is.
But if you want to move away from that understanding and just use it as a synonym for 'I like this person and they have been around for a while' then:
Elite Analyst: Akita T Elite Troll: Companion Qube Elite Investor: flakeys Elite Poster: Madame Pinkerton/Florestan Bronstein |
RAW23
B And H Drive Yards
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:23:00 -
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Elise DarkStar wrote:RAW23 wrote:I thought I was King You're the King of a bygone, rotten, and corrupt institution that actually has nothing to do with "Market Discussions".
But I'm still King, right? You'll leave me with that scrap?
Edit - actually, I prefer 'spacejesus'. You take away with one hand but give with the other. |
Ann Can
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:23:00 -
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And those with the most insightful and profound revelations about the Eve economy and how to make money in the markets, those who do not need to post very much, are ignored. Just like real life - Squeaky wheels get the attention. |
Elise DarkStar
DarkCorp Capital Group DarkCorp Imperium
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:26:00 -
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RAW23 wrote:But I'm still King, right? You'll leave me with that scrap?
Sure. I mean if you personally are willing to sit on a throne of filth surrounded by a swamp glaring hypocrisy, what can I honestly do to take that from you? |
RAW23
B And H Drive Yards
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:29:00 -
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Elise DarkStar wrote:RAW23 wrote:But I'm still King, right? You'll leave me with that scrap? Sure. I mean if you personally are willing to sit on a throne of filth surrounded by a swamp glaring hypocrisy, what can I honestly do to take that from you?
Well, you crowned me. It's obviously in your gift to take it away. |
Wyke Mossari
Staner Industries
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:31:00 -
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Elite Humorist : Elise DarkStar Elite Ethicist : Raw23
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Elise DarkStar
DarkCorp Capital Group DarkCorp Imperium
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:35:00 -
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I am merely the messenger. I'm pretty sure in such a perverse and corrupt kingdom, with no actual claim to justice or righteous authority, only the rule of power and contempt for the weak, only the King can crown himself.
I'd be concerned though if I were you, as the last few members of your ilk have met untimely ends in less than glorious circumstances. I wonder what the internet spaceships equivalent of a drainage pipe is? I'd stay away from those if I were you. |
Countesss
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:40:00 -
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Yeah i think you're giving the MD Elite thing a little too much thought. Just fun idea of old respected ppl in the community. Regardless of actual business or things they've done for the community. Just a bunch of old hoggies that the frequenters all know and respect.
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Countesss
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:53:00 -
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Elise DarkStar wrote:I wonder what the internet spaceships equivalent of a drainage pipe is?
CAOD forum
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Elise DarkStar
DarkCorp Capital Group DarkCorp Imperium
109
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:55:00 -
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Countesss wrote:Elise DarkStar wrote:I wonder what the internet spaceships equivalent of a drainage pipe is? CAOD forum
Holy **** I laughed.
Clever girl.
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RAW23
B And H Drive Yards
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Posted - 2011.10.27 15:57:00 -
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Countesss wrote:Elise DarkStar wrote:I wonder what the internet spaceships equivalent of a drainage pipe is? CAOD forum
I would say an Iteron V. CAOD is what flows through a drainage pipe. |
Nerdy McButtHurt Trald
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.27 17:36:00 -
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The term MD elite should be dead.
MD Elite really used to mean that these people were 'rain makers'. With any of their approvals an IPO/Bond could be launched, and also if any of them dumped on a new IPO/Bond it would fail.
People no longer really have that power (as most Elites anded up scamming), and people make up their own minds as well.
There are also not as many people on the new forums for a core group to be elite. It is the same crowd in every post. Just look at the post numbers and views vs. old forum, and how long it takes for a subject to get off the first page.
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RAW23
B And H Drive Yards
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Posted - 2011.10.27 18:06:00 -
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Nerdy McButtHurt Trald wrote:. It is the same crowd in every post. Just look at the post numbers and views vs. old forum, and how long it takes for a subject to get off the first page.
To be fair, the first page is 25% longer now.
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
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Posted - 2011.10.27 18:17:00 -
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I thought people are equal |
TornSoul
BIG Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.10.27 18:18:00 -
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Ann Can wrote:And those with the most insightful and profound revelations about the Eve economy and how to make money in the markets, those who do not need to post very much, are ignored. Just like real life - Squeaky wheels get the attention.
Indeed
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I think any "MD elite" list will always be incredible subjective - Ie. the list of people, people "instinctively" think of as "those people". Hell would freeze over before any consensus would occur
Doesn't even get better if you try and be a bit more objective with categories like raw suggested. Hell would still need to freeze over
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Whenever someone makes such an "MD elite" list - The one thing they have in common, as far as I can tell, is:
- It's someone, from the OP's POV, who have made a positive and lasting impression on them by their posting in MD.
This being 1 or 50 posts, hilarious or well thought ought/researched post, ISK making or ISK losing posts - and probably a number of other categories, depending on the OP in question. The point still being, they've somehow managed to make a positive and lasting impression on the OP. And as mentioned - That's about as subjective as it can ever be, thus it always leeds to a bit of bickering over why some should or shouldn't be on the list
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I've not been on every list ever made (nor has anyone else I guess) - So thanks for the mention
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.10.27 18:54:00 -
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MD Elite?
No such beast, never has been, never will be.
People need to learn to just follow their own groove, and to hell with idea of MD Elite.
SH |
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