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Kalahari Wayrest
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Posted - 2005.12.24 19:15:00 -
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Quote: The number of 4ssholes in the game has steadily increased.
Yeah...possibly. But so has the number of people playing the game so that's kind of inevitable. It's still the best community out of any mmo I've played so far. Not sure whether that says good things about the eve community, or bad things about others...maybe both __________________________ Indulge Me |
Macro Slasher
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Posted - 2005.12.24 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Montague Zooma There are players who help newbies, players who take advantage of them and players who ignore them. One's first impressions of the game will vary depending on which players they have the good or bad fortune to run into. Some noobs get off to a great start, others don't.
His problem seemed to be that there isn't enough to do in those a few hundred Empire systems he could stroll safely. (Which really isn't true, you can do millions of fun things without going to low security.) Also his problem seemed to be that ooooo it's everywhere so unsafe. It's not very true either. It takes only couple seconds of time to plot safe courses that avoid most of the problems and stay in low sec too. His problem also seemed to be that it's too easy "to lose everything". It really is not.
Some people just seem to want riskless reward. They should go play Solitaire.
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Peter Armstrong
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Posted - 2005.12.24 19:20:00 -
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mmm did u not read up on games and ask advice? did u not do tutials? and if u got killed u must of been in 0.4 and below and in that cause ur fault as u ignored the warnings. So why should u have ur money back? comon sence to do a trail to see whats it like. So leave because i sick of silly whiner like ur because ur a sore losser because u ignored warning etc. So bye bye and merry xmas
Oh CCP can we have more snow balls?
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Peter Armstrong
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Posted - 2005.12.24 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Haggislander Edited by: Haggislander on 24/12/2005 16:03:48
My bull**** detector is going off
Everytime I read posts like the OP'ers, I can't help but think that it some lamer from a crappy mmog that uses a free trial to make bad statements about eve. Either way, we dont care if you leave. There are many many new players falling in love with eve daily.
Turn off the lights and don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya.
I wish ppl would stop even trying to help obvious losers like this.
LOL LOL love the pic!!
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Deacan Wildfire
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Posted - 2005.12.24 19:28:00 -
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yeah, exactly, people.
If you had read even the slightest bit about eve before getting an account you'd have known that this is a game with major ups and major downs, rather than the bland contentment most other mmorpgs offer. You would know that other players can (and will) kill you if given the chance and even the slighest motivation.
So please, please, please stop calling the game "awful" just because you didn't even bother to read the back of the bloody box.
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Unbeleever
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Posted - 2005.12.24 19:38:00 -
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That's why I love this game, it keeps the majority of the kiddies away.
The OP just hasnt got the cranial fortitude(hahaha I just made that up) to stick with this game.
Anyway I want a block of cheddar cheese, 4 valumes, 6 pack of Bud and a large woman. MERRY-XMAS FOLKS
For me... Group therapy is a 30 pack of BEER!! Then all of the voices are satisfied. |
F'nog
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Posted - 2005.12.24 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Berak FalCheran
Are you an IDIOT? Because only IDIOTS pick fights they know they'll lose. What's the point in that?
Tell that to BoB and their shiny new Outpost.
Originally by: rowbin hod Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage.
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Necrosmith
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Posted - 2005.12.24 19:46:00 -
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Nothing new here.
1/10
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2005.12.24 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: Mert Mars Well I've played a lot of MMO's since they started popping up, but this is the first time I feel robbed of my money. The player vs player in this game is just so bad ... I'm new to the game, playing about a week and it seems that more powerful players can just go around killing the weaker ones. I don't care if it's my fault somehow, it shouldn't be just so easy to loose everything just for warping from place to place. I was watching the security levels of the different systems but it's just crazy. Am I supposed to spend 2 or 3 years in my home system or something? They brag about how big this game is, but you can't go anywhere! Haha! Oh well, I normally don't complain because I know this will just **** everyone off, and they will post stupid replies, but I really want my money back on this one, the game doesn't deliver what it promises at all, I mean 3 days of down time in my first week, that's a load of bull. For 15 bucks a month, yes, you do work for me now, and all this crap should *not* be an issue for paying customers.
You:
In other words, you're just a crying carebear. The only thing that limits you here is your spine, or lack of one. You're probably already gone, but if you aren't, give me your stuff. I'll put it to good use, something you apparently never did.
Only people who should bee made to feel robbed of their money are GTC sellers who buy T2 bpos, and get popped while moving the BPO. First person to pop such a person will be my hero(ine), forever.
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Spike Firebrand
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Posted - 2005.12.24 21:40:00 -
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Edited by: Spike Firebrand on 24/12/2005 21:42:47 WHEN eve dies people will wonder WHY. Right here in this post is the REASON. Grifeing IS NEVER OK. And people then give the person who was attacked WITH OUT REASON more grief and they wonder why people quit. New people are the lifes blood of any MMO if they can not play the game for more a day or 2 with out some pvp moron like this ruining thier game. Then no one new will join, and the game WILL die sooner or later. Puting out cans that says free snowballs and telling people they can have some and then attacking them is nothing BUT LAME and should NOT be allowed. None of the other MMO's I've played would allow this.
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Ti anna
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Posted - 2005.12.24 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Spike Firebrand Edited by: Spike Firebrand on 24/12/2005 21:42:47 WHEN eve dies people will wonder WHY. Right here in this post is the REASON. Grifeing IS NEVER OK. And people then give the person who was attacked WITH OUT REASON more grief and they wonder why people quit. New people are the lifes blood of any MMO if they can not play the game for more a day or 2 with out some pvp moron like this ruining thier game. Then no one new will join, and the game WILL die sooner or later. Puting out cans that says free snowballs and telling people they can have some and then attacking them is nothing BUT LAME and should NOT be allowed. None of the other MMO's I've played would allow this.
No, we gave a person who obviously did not do his homework AT ALL, and who obviously did not even try to figure out game mechanics AT ALL before he came to the boards and posted a subject called... "Awful Game"
Sorry, but my pity meter refuses to respond for this kind of person making this kind of post. It must be broken ...
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Macro Slasher
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Posted - 2005.12.24 21:52:00 -
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Edited by: Macro Slasher on 24/12/2005 21:54:28
Originally by: Spike Firebrand Edited by: Spike Firebrand on 24/12/2005 21:42:47 WHEN eve dies people will wonder WHY. Right here in this post is the REASON. Grifeing IS NEVER OK. And people then give the person who was attacked WITH OUT REASON more grief and they wonder why people quit.
He entered low sec. Pirates are not griefing, they are getting their living out of destroyed ships. There was a reason. Pirating is cool and an honorable profession. He lost his ship because he didn't look at the map "show ships destroyed in the last hour" and so on. Don't try to talk about griefing here. He just played bad and whined about it.
Something becomes griefing when there's extremities at the wealth differences, it's constant and directed towards certain person (like suicide kestrels) or for instance is just plain lame (smashing Ibises at Kisogo for instance). Not all that kill you is griefing at all. Get your head fixed. It's just like life is.
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2005.12.24 22:07:00 -
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I wonder how many players have left EVE with a sour taste in their mouth due to griefers...
I started in Beta, and with everyone else on a somewhat lvl playing feild, I can't imagine starting out nowadays being griefed to hell & back... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE |
Spike Firebrand
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Posted - 2005.12.24 22:10:00 -
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Edited by: Spike Firebrand on 24/12/2005 22:11:56 SO he enterd low sec. BIG DEAL. What about me and a friend who where mining in 0.7 space and got attacked and killed just for the fun of it. Or another friend who scamed by the can trick. And so on and so forth. Theres being a pirate and then theres being a total moron. One is ok, the other is not. Sadly there are way to many of the later about and thier ruining the game. That and the constant crashes and server problems don't help either. I've spent more on this game to play for month then I ever have on Guild wars and GW is just SO much more stable and problem free. There are also FAR less total morons in the game as its a LOT harder to grief people there and even then you can only do it the one as then people will not invite you into thier groups.
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Fooball
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Posted - 2005.12.24 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Bhaal I started in Beta, and with everyone else on a somewhat lvl playing feild, I can't imagine starting out nowadays being griefed to hell & back...
There are more rules to make the lives of the newbies safer nowadays. And even at the beta I bet the most active ones went past the others anyways quite fast.
Some does happen. I've seen couple guys trying the can flagging trick on complete newbies. Some read the warning popup and don't fall into it. Some don't. Some other guys usually go try to help the newbies. In the end they lose some but not that much.
Pirating isn't quite bad for newbies either if you know the basic rules. It might happen some day but it isn't constant, nor real griefing. They'd lose a playing session worth of work perhaps - it's hardly the end usually. Asking for help usually yields some too.
You know, as there are larger "griefers".. Also the helpers can be larger. In the beta as you said you were more or less on the same level. I know people who slap millions on the newbies to bootstrap them well and give lots of good advice.
It's really not so dark. It just requires that the newbie finds out a little bit on how the rules and surroundings work. Gaining recomposure and getting back on the path takes only minutes, not hours or days or weeks. Newbies aren't rich enough to lose much. Or have much skill points to lose or whatever else.
The culture might be a bit harsh. People taunting on local and talking trash and so on. I'd say it's the only part that really can get into the newbies. It can be quite rough.
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Clytamnestra
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Posted - 2005.12.24 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: Spike Firebrand Edited by: Spike Firebrand on 24/12/2005 22:11:56 SO he enterd low sec. BIG DEAL. What about me and a friend who where mining in 0.7 space and got attacked and killed just for the fun of it. Or another friend who scamed by the can trick. And so on and so forth. Theres being a pirate and then theres being a total moron. One is ok, the other is not. Sadly there are way to many of the later about and thier ruining the game. That and the constant crashes and server problems don't help either. I've spent more on this game to play for month then I ever have on Guild wars and GW is just SO much more stable and problem free. There are also FAR less total morons in the game as its a LOT harder to grief people there and even then you can only do it the one as then people will not invite you into thier groups.
You do have to realize that once you have to resort to evangelizing about another online game, likely your argument won't have enough on it to fly here.
Not everyone have experienced constant crashes. Also, the can scam is easily circumvented by not disregarding the warning popup that pop ups.
And frankly, the major reason why I'm sticking to this game is that I don't have to stoop to playing with other people's kids. I don't want to be forced to spend time with kids just because I'm playing an online game. --
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IRTEHWINTBH
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Posted - 2005.12.24 22:27:00 -
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LoL
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Peter Armstrong
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Posted - 2005.12.24 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: Spike Firebrand Edited by: Spike Firebrand on 24/12/2005 22:11:56 SO he enterd low sec. BIG DEAL. What about me and a friend who where mining in 0.7 space and got attacked and killed just for the fun of it. Or another friend who scamed by the can trick. And so on and so forth. Theres being a pirate and then theres being a total moron. One is ok, the other is not. Sadly there are way to many of the later about and thier ruining the game. That and the constant crashes and server problems don't help either. I've spent more on this game to play for month then I ever have on Guild wars and GW is just SO much more stable and problem free. There are also FAR less total morons in the game as its a LOT harder to grief people there and even then you can only do it the one as then people will not invite you into thier groups.
do me and other player a favor Leave eve! because u forgeting EVE runs different to other games and other games dont have 20k + on one sever! EVE very different to other games it require mature and smart people. In this case this person not smart and mature because he done this thread. So u lost this debate.
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2005.12.24 22:58:00 -
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1)yes it was unfortunate that you joined during a patch time...bad luck nothing more and is far from normal for eve. 2) it is obvious you do not have the mentality needed to enjoy eve, the fact you did not
a) use trial account b) research the game before playing and then c)try to understand the game
shows that you will never understand or enjoy eve as u will continue to find things to be disgruntles and whine about.
as for your 1 week character not been able to kill vets..come on u got to be joking right? ive yet to see a MMO which gives as much of a chance for new players against older ones as eve does..and no were can any noob char defeat vets with ease...or in majority of MMO at all.
ao to summerise..cancel ur account go play WOW kthnxbye..yes the posts here are callous..but if u come on to the forums within a week with the tone u do..u show ur self to be a class 1 idiot..suprisingly im mainly a nice guy..i just hate whiners who wont give things a chance. _____
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ToX1c Revamp
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Posted - 2005.12.24 23:27:00 -
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Originally by: Skuld OdinsDottir
Originally by: LOPEZ this is why EVE is the only realy pvp mmo out there.. poping n00bies for the win!
wrong, Lineage II is a pure PVP game too. In effect everywhere is 0.0 space. just near towns there are guards and near startertowns there are roaming guards. Everywhere else ... Except in Lineage II you can kill a red (pker, or in EvE terms: low sec char) without a guard interfering.
not true, and a common misconception seems most lineage 2 players like to think its a pure pvp game.
strange how they forget about the years worth (if you are lucky) of mindless mob bashing to reach the level cap or to grind out cash for the best set in your current equipment grade.
not to mention the 'open' pvp that consists of a long stand off (usually accomponied by a flaming match) while waiting for someone to attack and get their pvp flag up so they can be attacked without 'punishment'. the same punishment which makes pking a barrel of laughs when you kill someone and go red, letting others attack you without consiquence and having a high chance of dropping your items on death, effectivley turning you into a huge flashing target - which usually leads to more endless pve bashing to drop your karma points and go white again.
and dont even get me started on the weekly 'scheduled' castle seiges
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Aelius
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Posted - 2005.12.25 00:52:00 -
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EVE isn't a game for everyone. With this i'm not calling EVE players an "elite" or something like that. It's only a diferent gender and line of aproach to MMORPGs.
Every record in players online (almost every week) proves that EVEN that you don't like it alot of people do.
Who am i to discuss tastes???
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Tasuric Orka
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Posted - 2005.12.25 01:02:00 -
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Eve is my first MMO, i've been playing for 2 days now and i gotta say... what is so hard about this game? Its deep, and has lots of features, that's what im sure of, but as a newby i dont find any problem hard to tackle, really.
Need isk without taking risk? just mine for it in high sec, take your mining Bantam and find a big ship trying to carve up a rock with a basic laser (amazing how many there are out there) team up, and you make easy money. WORK AS A TEAM, the pirates do it, so should you.
Griefers.. just dont mine huge amounts into a can if you are without a buddy, fly back and forth and you got nothing to worry about (almost nothing). Common sense, let them steal their 1000 units of ore.. you are in a bantam right, DONT SHOOT! no weapons, dont take the bait if they leave their can with your ore in it close by.
If you happen to get shot cos some tard was bored? That sucks.. but think about it, his sec rating will drop,and you, as a smart person have insurance and money saved up, correct? Real life isnt all smooth sailing, nor is EVE.
Low sec. If you dont want to take a chance, dont go there, its that easy. common sense people.
About the community.. well, it has rotten apples, what community doesnt, but EVE's isnt terrible. Most people are nice or just mind their own business. I got a free destroyer yesterday for nothing what so ever. Nuff said.
You gotta work to play with the big boys, untill then, stay out of their way..
~Tas McNoob
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Kalahari Wayrest
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Posted - 2005.12.25 01:04:00 -
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^ 2 days and he has a better grasp of eve than most people __________________________ Indulge Me |
Spike Firebrand
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Posted - 2005.12.25 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: Peter Armstrong
Originally by: Spike Firebrand Edited by: Spike Firebrand on 24/12/2005 22:11:56 SO he enterd low sec. BIG DEAL. What about me and a friend who where mining in 0.7 space and got attacked and killed just for the fun of it. Or another friend who scamed by the can trick. And so on and so forth. Theres being a pirate and then theres being a total moron. One is ok, the other is not. Sadly there are way to many of the later about and thier ruining the game. That and the constant crashes and server problems don't help either. I've spent more on this game to play for month then I ever have on Guild wars and GW is just SO much more stable and problem free. There are also FAR less total morons in the game as its a LOT harder to grief people there and even then you can only do it the one as then people will not invite you into thier groups.
do me and other player a favor Leave eve! because u forgeting EVE runs different to other games and other games dont have 20k + on one sever! EVE very different to other games it require mature and smart people. In this case this person not smart and mature because he done this thread. So u lost this debate.
No i will NOT quit at least not until my sub runs out. Or do you ANY favours what so ever. Guild wars runs fine with MANY times the number of people playing AT ONCE than eve has. Right so grifeing in EVE is OK. And I should just put up with it. Well think again as I'm NOT and many other people will not either. Please tell me what is so mature and smart about picking on people who have NO chance of defending them selfs WHAT SO EVER. Or someone in a BS ore stealing in 1.0 space. There are FAR more IMATURE and STUPID people in eve than I have found in ANY other MMO I've played.
Sure is eve is different it seems to cater to the WORSE kind of grifers I have had the missfortune to meet. Thats why I'm sure you people flameing this poor guy like it. I enables you to get some kind of sick fun out of picking on people when they can't defend them selfs. You need SERIOUS help and should see a professional ASAP.
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Zeelott
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Posted - 2005.12.25 01:19:00 -
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I have the feeling.. many ppl dont really complete or pay attention to the tutorial. And for me the Tutorial is by far the most important step to get into the game.
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kieron
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Posted - 2005.12.25 01:25:00 -
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While there is some interesting discussion in the thread, there is also a lot of unnecessary bashing of the OP. Having said that, I'm locking the thread.
Mert, give the game a bit of time. The downtime situation will improve and you will be able to experience much more of the game than the random gate ganking.
kieron Community Manager, EVE Online
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