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Villium Ezeart
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Posted - 2005.12.24 19:31:00 -
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Please just let me know now so I can specialize in something else... Seriously, why would anyone train drone navigation if their drones dont move at the speeds they are supposed to now? I sit here typing this letter now as my ogres are approaching an npc 24 km away at 275 meters per secound... This sux.
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Tyto
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Posted - 2005.12.24 20:06:00 -
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Ok, my bet... they do indeed plan on fixing the drones.
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Gonada
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Posted - 2005.12.24 20:09:00 -
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not over xmas so maybe give em a break and deal with it a bit
-I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.-
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2005.12.24 20:09:00 -
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You:
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If you don't like your heavy drones going slow, and don't want to train skills or use mods, then downgrade. Get mediums or lights. The only way you're going to get speed and firepower from drones is if you fly a carrier.
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Ras Blumin
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Posted - 2005.12.24 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia If you don't like your heavy drones going slow, and don't want to train skills or use mods, then downgrade. Get mediums or lights. The only way you're going to get speed and firepower from drones is if you fly a carrier.
He's talking about a bug where drones fly reeeeeal slow towards you when you've given the "return and orbit/to dronebay" command. Or don't return at all. This happens with light drones as well.
You obviously haven't used drones much Mal
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Villium Ezeart
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Posted - 2005.12.24 20:21:00 -
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Edited by: Villium Ezeart on 24/12/2005 20:23:38
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia You:
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If you don't like your heavy drones going slow, and don't want to train skills or use mods, then downgrade. Get mediums or lights. The only way you're going to get speed and firepower from drones is if you fly a carrier.
I beg to differ. in my ishtar I do 720 dmg every two seconds with my 5 heavy drones. I would also be perfectly content if they actually moved from target to target at the 700ms they are supposed to. I just want my heavy drones to move at the speed they are spec't to move. One would think that with the massive changes being made to drones in this patch that they wouldnt have overlooked an issue that has been in existance since inception.
--- Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right. |
Diancecht
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Posted - 2005.12.25 00:26:00 -
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That problem seems to be that they forget where they are in relation to the target.
eg. in a mission the other night i send some ogres and they run of and attack, no problem. then the other direction there is a rat that wants to sit at 30k from me (i am already targeted by it) now i order the attack by right clicking the group in the overview, and the bug happens. they start firing at just under 30k! and they have optimal of 1k, then they cruise at MY speed of around 280m/s and never reach the target or do any damage. i estimate their speed to be the 250m/s ORBIT velocity quoted in the drones info.
another thing that may not be a problem.. at least i hope it isnt a problem!
the ogres get targeted way before my bs! even when they are orbiting me. now i know they were going to increase the sig radius etc, but surely the enemy would target a bs before a drone??
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Villium Ezeart
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Posted - 2006.01.12 19:58:00 -
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another patch has come and gone , still drones get no love.
--- Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right. |
ErrorS
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Posted - 2006.01.12 20:09:00 -
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they are pretty bad right now.
and I wish we could set them so by default they don't aggro.. ugh, i think people have been asking for this stuff for two years? why would it change now :( ________
I'm strict Caldari
"The grass is always greener on the other side" - Maybe they're not as uber as you think?
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Sergio Ling
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Posted - 2006.01.12 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia You:
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and we have my new sig, many thanks
Malthros Zenobia Says - You:, Us: |
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Ashwa
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Posted - 2006.01.12 20:47:00 -
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everybody just ram in the petitions on this so they cant ignore it. include all the info you can to make something happen. they should make it so that the drones never attack anything else than ships targeting you too. because the lag and the problems involved you just dont get the time to do anything else
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GouldFish
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Posted - 2006.01.12 21:08:00 -
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Nope they are not going to fix the drones, or the lag or anything they are now sat down and playing CS:S because it's more fun then listening to people constantly moaning....
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2006.01.12 21:14:00 -
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Oh yeah, it's Thursday: drone whine day.
Isn't Friday missile nerf day?
Seriously, we should schedule these things.
Monday: No search function on the forums Tuesday: When is EVE:I coming back? Wednesday: The tech2 lottery and why it blows Thursday: Drone whines Friday: Missile nerf complaints Saturday: Slot queue silliness Sunday: Laaaaaaaaaaaag
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2006.01.12 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink Oh yeah, it's Thursday: drone whine day.
Isn't Friday missile nerf day?
Seriously, we should schedule these things.
Monday: No search function on the forums Tuesday: When is EVE:I coming back? Wednesday: The tech2 lottery and why it blows Thursday: Drone whines Friday: Missile nerf complaints Saturday: Slot queue silliness Sunday: Laaaaaaaaaaaag
Funny these things keep getting discussed isn't it? It's almost as if they... *gasp* suck! ___
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Winterblink
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Posted - 2006.01.12 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Nero Scuro Funny these things keep getting discussed isn't it? It's almost as if they... *gasp* suck!
Whines do suck, I agree.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.01.12 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Sergio Ling
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia You:
Us:
and we have my new sig, many thanks
Damn that's 2 people now...
Didn't see Ras's reply till now but, Ras, I have used drones somewhat (not for about a month or so since I've gone from cruisers to a Harpy), and the only problem I had with them was they'd attack structures and not things shooting at me.
I never noticed a speed issue with them, but I was using mediums and lights, so maybe it was just a heavy issue or not as apparent on med/light?
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve... This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil.
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Rebell
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Posted - 2006.01.12 21:59:00 -
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Take 2 ships, one has 100% speed, the other 90% speed; position the slower a bit ahead of the faster, then at the same time make them approch an object. Since they start at the same position, the will more or less follow the same path to the object. When the faster ship catches up to the slower one, it will bump it (most likely a positive speed bump), but the faster ship will experience a negative speed bump. Later it will catch up again and the same thing will occur. This "bumpage" action will go on and on forever (or untill the object of destination is reached). Neither ship will ever get to max speed because of the bumping.
Same thing is happening to the ogres in my game at least. 2 Ogres start sticking together and bumping the hell out of each other, thus reducing their overall max speed greatly. The solution to the problem would most likely entail modifying the vector/path drones take to the target, or just simply removing bumping for drone objects.
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MAcheTT3
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Posted - 2006.01.12 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: Gonada not over xmas so maybe give em a break and deal with it a bit
Except this problem (and others with Drones) has been around for months and months... Can't even remember how long TBH, but over 7 months...
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Kitty O'Shay
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Posted - 2006.01.12 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: Rebell Same thing is happening to the ogres in my game at least. 2 Ogres start sticking together and bumping the hell out of each other, thus reducing their overall max speed greatly. The solution to the problem would most likely entail modifying the vector/path drones take to the target, or just simply removing bumping for drone objects.
Award goes to Rebell for the most technically accurate description of "drone humping" to date. \o/ -- Beware the Intaki Redhead of Doom! Meow! |
Halkin
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Posted - 2006.01.12 22:40:00 -
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ok lets look at it another way.
you use drones as a primary offensive weapon and they go all stupid on you, dont do what they are told, sometimes do nothing at all.
or
you use turrets as your primary weapon, they attack targets you dont want, sometimes dont fire at all or fire slower than their quoted ROF.
if turrets did this the whole of eve would be up in arms but as it is its only drones that do this...
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Villium Ezeart
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Posted - 2006.01.12 22:48:00 -
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Originally by: Halkin ok lets look at it another way.
you use drones as a primary offensive weapon and they go all stupid on you, dont do what they are told, sometimes do nothing at all.
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you use turrets as your primary weapon, they attack targets you dont want, sometimes dont fire at all or fire slower than their quoted ROF.
if turrets did this the whole of eve would be up in arms but as it is its only drones that do this...
Ahmen brother!
--- Once in a while you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right. |
katz3
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Posted - 2006.01.12 22:51:00 -
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FIX THE DRONES, CCP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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HunchPunch
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Posted - 2006.01.12 23:07:00 -
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/Signed
I avoid using drones like the plague, it's infuriating when you tell your drones to attack a target and they move at like 1/4 of their max speed, then you have to tell them to return and orbit a million times to get them to all move at max speed.
Add to that the fact that they attack whatever they want, to me they are unusable, and i only fly ships that dont rely on drones.
Before ccp add's new content they realy need to fix issues with content that's allready there. i dont care if Kali takes a year or 2 to get deployed if it means fixing extremly frustrating bugs like theese.
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Demangel
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Posted - 2006.01.13 01:04:00 -
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/Signed in triplicate
Galaxion > If you drove a car shaped like a thorax women would call you Demangel > Dude... I would call.. Demangel > wait that sounded g@y I bet. Galaxion > Just a bit.
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Unholy Preacher
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Posted - 2006.01.13 01:11:00 -
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but if they fix drones, then ppl wont have anything to complain about ! its a conspiracy i tell ya !
hehhe sarcasm aside, everything will be fixed in due time, things are prioritized. Do you want the stability fixed and passwords protected first or drones fixed first ? theres a limit to how much one corporation can do.
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Borzoi
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Posted - 2006.01.13 02:22:00 -
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Bug report it, only way to do it, if CCP gets 10k reports on this, they will have to fix it, iv been having problems with drone movement issues since they had the new mwd speed / orbit speed change, and iv bug reported it, but more need to report aswell. ...
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Blind Fear
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Posted - 2006.01.13 02:26:00 -
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I dont even care if this is fixed. Just give me a workaround. Let me 'abandon' drones in space, so I can deploy a new wave. Nothing says fun like being 6x webbed, and having your drones sit 1.8k away when you need to put out a different wave. ------------------------------------------------ Derailing threads with logic since 1992 |
Borzoi
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Posted - 2006.01.13 02:31:00 -
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Workaround is : Return to orbit, then scoop. (works for me atleast)
I never use return to drone bay, since its so bugged. ...
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Dakath
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Posted - 2006.01.13 03:00:00 -
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Between the drone nerf, which did NOT fix lag at all, and the bugs.
Well I regret all the time I wasted training drone skills.
Thanks for nothing on this count, CCP.
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Iorya Dragon
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Posted - 2006.01.13 05:37:00 -
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Well Winter, if u notice, CCP fix things only when u whine. Before the rax had the huge drone bay, ppl came, "OMG a thorax kick my BC, because i realy suck at this game", tho it realy was a huge drone bay for an assault cruiser.
Now i was rating last night with 5 mediums, i think they were drunk, 3 drones attacked the cruiser i told them to do so, and 2 were watching the show... If u ask 5 ogre to return to ur drone bay, and u have over 200 m/s well it gona take a miracle for them to dock to drone bay. So plz whines are whines, but real problem are problems. Maybe we should go to Iceland for a few days...
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