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Atlas Picard
Digital Machines Digital Dominion
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Posted - 2013.04.22 11:11:00 -
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I literally bought the game today... 12 hours ago. had no issues when i was on the trail account had multiple windows open (web browser, etc)
As soon as i open u- torrent with the web browser open and eve it freezes up ... can control mouse, cannot interact with anything.
i switch off the power source because i cannot leave EVE. (Fullscreen mode)
Restart, make sure web browser / u-torrent are closed... boot eve up .. (currently mining) warp back into asteroid belt .... mine, NPC pirate arrives / or just over time, then it freezes again.
i'm on Snow Leopard 10.6.8 2.3 GHz Intel Core i5 8 gig ram Mac book pro 2012.
Additional info - currently its 5-10 mins prior to server down.
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Ivana Boom-Boom
Brave Newbies Inc.
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Posted - 2013.04.22 23:44:00 -
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Run the game in windowed mode. You can then hold "option" down and click the icon in your dock and force quit EVE when it locks up on you.
I would also like to weigh in here and bump this thread a little because this is a very serious issue. First, for those unsuspecting players who are playing in fullscreen mode - you are forced to shutdown your machine in a less than ideal way. It can lead to data loss, etc. Second, this is a major blocking issue for the OS X client. It happens with enough frequency that there is a serious disadvantage to players using OS X. For example, you can lock up in the middle of a fight. The game pace is too fast for this to be ignored. Last, it's just plain annoying.
I really hope CCP can fix this before adding new features...I would think making a game stable is more important than some of the minor issues I keep seeing being fixed in patch notes. I hear no acknowledgement of this problem by CCP and that worries me.
To be clear. This issue has NOTHING to do with running other apps. |
Ali Aras
Valkyries of Night Of Sound Mind
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Posted - 2013.04.23 01:49:00 -
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For what it's worth, I've had a lot of success with opt-cmd-esc (the Mac ctrl-alt-del) as a means for quitting out of the client when it does this. That said, I still experience this, and it's annoying as hell. Ali Aras for CSM8 Warp to Sun (my blog) |
Ivana Boom-Boom
Brave Newbies Inc.
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Posted - 2013.04.23 23:42:00 -
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Ali Aras wrote:For what it's worth, I've had a lot of success with opt-cmd-esc (the Mac ctrl-alt-del) as a means for quitting out of the client when it does this. That said, I still experience this, and it's annoying as hell.
will have to try that. i'd love to play this game full screen to be honest. i was hitting opt-ctrl-delete and command-ctrl-delete etc. didn't realize it was esc. thanks! (at least I don't think I tried that combo)...
and yea this should still be fixed. it's a serious issue that hurts gameplay and puts players in an unfair situation. i highly doubt a GM could reimburse me if I lost my ship due to it and that's even worse than not fixing the problem. that's blatantly ignoring it. and it will lead to people leaving. though i'm sure OS X players are few and far between and CCP probably doesn't really care about OS X players (in general - nothing personal). sad to say, but i get it. |
Bawb Zennshinagas
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.25 02:17:00 -
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$3000 rMBP and I can't reliably enjoy this game because the OS X client has this issue pretty severely for me. I cannot undock reliably. (I would like to note the SMC update fixed my red light green light performance issues.)
FIX THIS CCP.
Edit: I guess this is a bit unconstructive for actually fixing this problem, so heres a pastebin of my console.log hang from CIDER:
http://pastebin.com/cEw8QMwt
This problem was exacerbated for me while using Transmission. |
Leoric Tauntman
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.29 22:06:00 -
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It have been a loooong time since I played Eve online, some years. Now I thought I would pick it up again to play it a year or so. Many things must have been improved right?
Sadly not.
The game freezes like every 10th minute on my brand new fully upgraded iMac. I have even tried to reinstall the game AND OS X some times now. I even have nothing running in the background.
Please hurry and give the Mac client some love:( |
Nometh Xergent
Proxima Magnus
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Posted - 2013.04.30 07:00:00 -
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My game is freezing all the time.. With great responsibility comes great DPS.-á |
Aranea Utrarius
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.01 04:03:00 -
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if i change any of the settings for eve the the game freeze. i cant set hot keys, i can only at one thing to my overview, i cant change the size of text or expand a window to show more text. i can not rearrange icons were i need them. i have to have every thing stock. i can change this stuff but the more i do the more problems i have. this works every time. If i leave it stock i have the fewest problems. it all ways freezes when i take and action like warping, locking a target, docking, in the middle of loading a character screen, opening any menu while in a station. iv been able to reproduce this at any point and time both deliberately and unintentionally. i was able to put up may tack manager after being forced to hit Ctrl_Alt_Delete. It told me the game and client quit responding. the game ran perfectly when i was running the trial. when i paid for the one year subscribe is when all this whent to crap. |
Rose Hips
Zero Dot Zero
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Posted - 2013.05.01 17:27:00 -
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I started a thread called "CCP Respond" regarding the freezing. Please reply to that thread simply, and politely asking CCP for a response. They have this thread on auto-ignore, and we really need an answer to this freezing problem. Thank you in advance. The more they see of us asking, the more we may just get a response. Remember, be kind. Forum signature removed by Empress Jamyl as instructed by God Tò+püä jamyl sarum tÜçsÉÄpâ¬péñpâû |
Nometh Xergent
GLU CANU Open Space Consultancy
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:17:00 -
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Well the kind of stupid thing is, where is this coming from? I mean, i have been reading this thread for a while and theres so much GREAT mac's and still having this trouble.
CCP, please inform us what's going on and if you dont know, just please tell. Because it's really hard to understand this. :) With great responsibility comes great DPS.-á |
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Manssell
OmiHyperMultiNationalDrunksConglomerate
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Posted - 2013.05.02 16:02:00 -
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I'm getting a few of these a week now. I can almost defiantly force a hard freeze while using the in game browser and hitting certain sites (or when sites that are having a problem loading) but that has always happened. Now I'm getting the freeze just clicking on tabs in game or moving in space. |
Ushimatsu Celestial
Free Space Tech Banderlogs Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.02 18:19:00 -
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Have the same problem My mac setup is: last Retina MacBook Pro + last MacOS X with all updates Game is freezing randomly but i think this is related to network activity from other applications started at the same time (Browser/Torrent client/IPTV/etc) Please fix this problem - it's really annoying |
Bawb Zennshinagas
Limited Liability
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Posted - 2013.05.03 22:53:00 -
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Ushimatsu Celestial wrote:Have the same problem My mac setup is: last Retina MacBook Pro + last MacOS X with all updates Game is freezing randomly but i think this is related to network activity from other applications started at the same time (Browser/Torrent client/IPTV/etc) Please fix this problem - it's really annoying
Its beyond annoying, this game is completely unplayable for those suffering the extreme of this problem. |
Nometh Xergent
GLU CANU Open Space Consultancy
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Posted - 2013.05.04 10:24:00 -
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I have sent a petition but no response With great responsibility comes great DPS.-á |
Ivana Boom-Boom
Brave Newbies Inc.
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Posted - 2013.05.06 18:03:00 -
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http://community.eveonline.com/news/patch-notes/patch-notes-for-retribution-1.2
....would "Resolved a rare occurence of client freeze during gameplay" be the fix perhaps??
I actually tried to slip EVE into different versions of Cider to see if it was perhaps some DLL files or a certain version of Cider. It basically became even more unstable with all the versions I tried So I gave up on that front and hope that CCP could fix it.
I'm really crossing my fingers that this patch note was in relation to the problem (and that the problem actually existed on Windows as well - since it's the same or same-ish codebase) and this has been resolved now. Really crossing fingers.... |
Ki'ana
Metroplex Mining Corp
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Posted - 2013.05.06 19:27:00 -
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I can't get the game to stay open long enough to even file a petition. Seriously making me reconsider renewal as it has been happening for two months now. Client reinstall hasn't helped. |
Ivana Boom-Boom
Brave Newbies Inc.
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Posted - 2013.05.07 03:19:00 -
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...and...that's a no. Still crashes =( |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
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Posted - 2013.05.08 16:10:00 -
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Confirmed. My method of getting a freeze (launch 3 clients, then start web surfing) also got a freeze. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Ivana Boom-Boom
Brave Newbies Inc.
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Posted - 2013.05.08 16:34:00 -
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Given that it should be the same codebase as Windows, I'm fairly certain it has to do with something in the Cider. A bad DLL or something. Again, I've tried to flip out parts of it with other versions of Cider that I've found but to no avail.
Obviously folks use a VM or Bootcamp, etc. without issue so it can't be the hardware...And again if the codebase is the same...That kinda leaves only a few things. Drivers within OS X for the graphics card (but given there's so many different people with different graphics cards and OS X versions and driver versions I'm gonna say it's likely not that) or Cider/Wine.
The latest version of Cider is not being used for EVE. I'm not sure if a newer version would provide any better stability or not. I'm half tempted to go yank DLLs off my Windows machine and throw them in and see how that works... Though I gotta dust off my PC and fix it first. I'm sure Cider isn't cheap...So I don't think they'll go to upgrade it anytime soon, but they should take dumps and bug reports and give them to Transgaming or something. Maybe they can help...If I were CCP, I'd certainly hit them up given they were paid for something that clearly does not work on a wide scale (multiple users, versions of OS X, hardware, etc.).
edit -- one other thing it could be and that is something in the graphics settings that OS X doesn't support that Windows does...on the same graphics card....which would be weird, though possible I suppose...and if it's an instruction in the game code that's required, then we're screwed...but I've already changed a lot of the game's graphics settings and it doesn't seem to matter which settings are used...so i'm gonna say it's not some sort of unsupported graphics card feature like some shader or renderer crap. though i know it really could be a million reasons because it's quite complex i'm really thinking it's not a complex reason. |
Krieg Omaristos
United Echelon
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Posted - 2013.05.11 13:45:00 -
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While I still freeze on occasion, I reduced the crashes significantly by running in Windowed mode as opposed to full screen. Not as awesome on my iMac, but better than crashing. |
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Aranea Utrarius
Nightingale Industries Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.11 14:28:00 -
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still having the same problems. and i don't have a mac. |
matarkhan
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.05.12 22:47:00 -
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Even running a single client brings me random lockups. I set autopilot, send my indy toon across empire and wander off to do other things -- come back and find that I've made it 3 jumps out of 25 and the client locked up.
It's becoming unplayable. This has happened on and off with different versions of the Mac client over the years, but this is possibly the worst. |
Michael Achassey
Aegis of Villore
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Posted - 2013.05.14 16:09:00 -
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Just started having this problem today, been playing the game fine for a week no issues, but about five freezes today out of nowhere |
Ghost Mori
InterSun Freelance Moon Warriors
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Posted - 2013.05.16 10:19:00 -
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OSX 10.8.3, Mac Pro 2008 8 core, ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024 MB, 8 GB RAM.
Constantly freezing when in hangar. Too afraid to undock. Clearing cache etc does nothing. It is now literally unplayable. |
Theia Matova
Dominance Theory
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Posted - 2013.05.16 19:34:00 -
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Last time I used EVE on mac this still occured.. It makes use of eve client on mac pretty much impossible since it happens within 10m and can cause as worse lock that you need to reboot.
What comes to tech used to bring eve to mac I believe some kind of crappy wine emulation is used. Please dump that **** to trash can and make native client mac supports c++ new c++ standard as well. It should not be that hard to get eve run on mac natively.
With love -- cross platform game developer -- kisses Other discussions: Racial systems balancing and homogenization Bounty contracts |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
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Posted - 2013.05.17 03:50:00 -
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Apparently this is a known issue as CCP Habakuk uses a Mac and gets freezes.
CCP Habakuk wrote:Gaia Ma'chello wrote:Except you kept putting him in the wrong solar system. But as long as you are here... Or forgetting to make sure he is in fleet.... Quote:CCP Habakuk, many Mac users are getting this freeze issue, where the client freezes even though it does not DC from the server. For me it happens maybe once a week. For others it happens in minutes or seconds of logging in. There are threads about it in the Mac forum, but no Dev has given any love to any of them for literally months. Think someone could drop in and help? We know about this problem and I also have these freezes from time to time on this iMac (but not very often). Unfortunately this seems to be very difficult to fix.
http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Invisusira
The Rising Stars The Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.05.17 11:47:00 -
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Did we ever more-or-less confirm that it's a memory leak problem? I've been playing a lot less lately due to RL, but notice I still get freezes from time to time on my new iMac, which has like 12 gigs of ram. Core Skills - train em up train em up! |
Ghost Mori
InterSun Freelance Moon Warriors
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Posted - 2013.05.19 04:11:00 -
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I can confirm that the only thing that helps is restarting OSX completely. But as time wears on the freeze problem gets more and more profound.
That's right, resetting EVE client does nothing. Only O/S restart helps.
I did not realise EVE uses WINE and Winelib, and I have to say that it's vaguely disappointing. I realise the costs involved with porting a game natively to a different system (and unix and Windows are as different from each other as they get), but EVE is not a small company.
Also I have noticed that the game freezes more often when the game window (I play in windowed mode) is in not in the foreground.
All my settings are set to max, by the way. I might try to tweak the game settings one by one to see if it matters.
Also the Help channel is extremely unhelpful with this issue as every single time I have mentioned it all I received was Mac-bashing. Once they even asked me to leave the channel and go to the OSX channel because I was asking an irrelevant question.
Edit: game has frozen when in the background and docked (hangar), when undocking (once), while orbiting POS, several times while in space. |
Ghost Mori
InterSun Freelance Moon Warriors
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Posted - 2013.05.19 04:23:00 -
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Anhammerad wrote:Eessi wrote:The clients freeze up much more frequently with transmission running. UI freeze unable to exit Eve, audio sound loop, can sleep using keyboard shortcut, on wake still in locked up Eve with sound loop. Hard reboot using power key only option. Only App running beside background services 'Transmission' 10.8.3 - 3.3GHz - 4.0GB Ram
It is interesting to note that I am also running Transmission (torrent) in the background. |
Fausta Toralen
The Brotherhood of Chaos Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
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Posted - 2013.05.19 23:32:00 -
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I have had this problem reoccuring, but it began when I used the CCP provided Eve Clonemaker.app; the cloned version of Eve would crash, and launching the program again would only get me as far as a black box.
Only after deleting the cloned app and its local settings completely would I be able to use the Clonemaker again and then dualbox once more. While this issue happened at least once a day, it also happens while using my main installation, every 2-3 days.
The aggravating part is changing all of my settings to what I want. Although some settings can be saved/preserved, minor things like graphics, window settings, blinking icons and all of that, adds up. I've tried deleting the cache, then other settings, in a piece-meal fashion so I could get in without having to reconfigure the client, but so far it hasn't been feasible.
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