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Louise Beethoven
Hedion University Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.08.13 13:24:00 -
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Lee Saisima wrote:FIRST!!!! Didn't even bother to read OP! Please can we forum-ban people for this stupidity |
E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
255
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Posted - 2013.08.13 13:49:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Broomhilde wrote:The bounty system currently in EVE is completely meaningless. No. By posting these kinds of threads, you give it all the meaning it ever needs.
I would have to agree with the OP. The bounty system as it is now is garbage and meaningless. No one is going to hunt down a miner (or any one else) for their bounty when its tied to the value of the ship.
I understand why they made it the way it is but understanding it doesnGÇÖt make it a viable mechanic.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Shepherd Contract Agency Scholarly Division
11629
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Posted - 2013.08.13 14:05:00 -
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Ooooh a new and interesting thread that's never been done before.
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |
TheBlueMonkey
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
481
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Posted - 2013.08.13 14:11:00 -
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Broomhilde wrote: I don't recall saying that High sec makes me immune, I'm a testament that it doesn't. Any butthurt idiot can place a bounty on anyone, that's what makes it meaningless. When you hear the word "bounty" traditionally one may think of retribution, outlaws, badass behaviours, etc. Now it just means "Ah ok someone pissed off a jerk". Wait, I guess that has meaning! but not in the traditional sense. Should I revise my statement? Are you adding to my Bounty? Please do, I want to be the first carebear bounty to reach 100 billion isk. Donate now!
Broomhilde wrote: I have a 3/4 billion bounty on my head for, um, what? Im a carebear in High sec, miner and Indy. Wouldn't hurt a fly.
Implication is that you think as you're a carebear in highsec, you should be immune to bounties.
also http://www.thefreedictionary.com/bounty 3. A reward, inducement, or payment, especially one given by a government for acts deemed beneficial to the state, such as killing predatory animals, growing certain crops, starting certain industries, or enlisting for military service.
Just because you don't understand the word doesn't mean you get to dictate it's use. And in this instance "the state" should be taken as the person placing the bounty.
If someone dislikes you and places the bounty to incentivise people suicide ganking you in high sec then the system has a purpose and is working as intended.
As for your plees for isk, I'm not going to sedate your daddy issues by pandering to such cries. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4503
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Posted - 2013.08.13 14:15:00 -
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Broomhilde wrote:TheBlueMonkey wrote:Broomhilde wrote:TheBlueMonkey wrote:So... if you're in a hulk and I come and splode you I can get money?
Sounds like meaning to me. I don't fly a hulk, but, um, that's how a bounty kinda works.... I'm mocking your "The bounty system currently in EVE is completely meaningless" by pointing out that bounties have meaning. Anyway It's not like the old system where you could just pod your self with an alt and collect the isk yourself, which did make them meaningless because all you were doing was effectively donating isk to that person. I guess my point is more that your belief that high sec somehow makes you immune is commical I don't recall saying that High sec makes me immune, I'm a testament that it doesn't. Any butthurt idiot can place a bounty on anyone, that's what makes it meaningless. When you hear the word "bounty" traditionally one may think of retribution, outlaws, badass behaviours, etc. Now it just means "Ah ok someone pissed off a jerk". Wait, I guess that has meaning! but not in the traditional sense. Should I revise my statement? Are you adding to my Bounty? Please do, I want to be the first carebear bounty to reach 100 billion isk. Donate now! In EVE you can also think of a "Bounty" as a "Contract", depending on what side of the law the person issuing the bounty is on. So if it makes you feel better, the price on your head is a sign of how big a pain you have become to EVE's underworld.
Of course, the truth of the matter is that in your case your bounty is simply a reflection of how annoying you are in general, and has nothing to do with how big a "bad ass" you are. You have a mouth that writes checks your ass can't cash, making you and your bounty a source of amusement to the community. Thus giving bounties meaning even on that humble level.
With this in mind your current attention seeking campaign does nothing more that prove that your basic premise is flawed, and that bounties serve a function even when directed at those who serve no other purpose than to be annoying. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Dimaloun Vyreen
Venture Corporation
6
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Posted - 2013.08.13 14:18:00 -
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I SHALL VOTE FOR YOU |
Broomhilde
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
1
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Posted - 2013.08.13 14:29:00 -
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TheBlueMonkey wrote:Broomhilde wrote: I don't recall saying that High sec makes me immune, I'm a testament that it doesn't. Any butthurt idiot can place a bounty on anyone, that's what makes it meaningless. When you hear the word "bounty" traditionally one may think of retribution, outlaws, badass behaviours, etc. Now it just means "Ah ok someone pissed off a jerk". Wait, I guess that has meaning! but not in the traditional sense. Should I revise my statement? Are you adding to my Bounty? Please do, I want to be the first carebear bounty to reach 100 billion isk. Donate now!
[quote=Broomhilde] I have a 3/4 billion bounty on my head for, um, what? Im a carebear in High sec, miner and Indy. Wouldn't hurt a fly.
Implication is that you think as you're a carebear in highsec, you should be immune to bounties.
Nope, I was saying that in reference to what I am, not that I'm immune. It was simply added for context. Do not ASSume! |
Broomhilde
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
1
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Posted - 2013.08.13 14:31:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Broomhilde wrote:TheBlueMonkey wrote:Broomhilde wrote:TheBlueMonkey wrote:So... if you're in a hulk and I come and splode you I can get money?
Sounds like meaning to me. I don't fly a hulk, but, um, that's how a bounty kinda works.... I'm mocking your "The bounty system currently in EVE is completely meaningless" by pointing out that bounties have meaning. Anyway It's not like the old system where you could just pod your self with an alt and collect the isk yourself, which did make them meaningless because all you were doing was effectively donating isk to that person. I guess my point is more that your belief that high sec somehow makes you immune is commical I don't recall saying that High sec makes me immune, I'm a testament that it doesn't. Any butthurt idiot can place a bounty on anyone, that's what makes it meaningless. When you hear the word "bounty" traditionally one may think of retribution, outlaws, badass behaviours, etc. Now it just means "Ah ok someone pissed off a jerk". Wait, I guess that has meaning! but not in the traditional sense. Should I revise my statement? Are you adding to my Bounty? Please do, I want to be the first carebear bounty to reach 100 billion isk. Donate now! In EVE you can also think of a "Bounty" as a "Contract", depending on what side of the law the person issuing the bounty is on. So if it makes you feel better, the price on your head is a sign of how big a pain you have become to EVE's underworld. Of course, the truth of the matter is that in your case your bounty is simply a reflection of how annoying you are in general, and has nothing to do with how big a "bad ass" you are. You have a mouth that writes checks your ass can't cash, making you and your bounty a source of amusement to the community. Thus giving bounties meaning even on that humble level.
With this in mind your current attention seeking campaign does nothing more that prove that your basic premise is flawed, and that bounties serve a function even when directed at those who serve no other purpose than to be an annoying attention seeker.
Nope, Im acutally very quiet in general. Im an Indy, I don't go about "writing checks". I mine quietly after work. I have played off and on since 2006 with no incident or issue. I got the bounty from a friends private chat room. I walked in and said Hi and was asked to suck the **** of one of the players there. I told that player that it was disgusting, and WHAM, 750mill Bounty. I have the email he sent to my friend about it. Hehe! Cool story right? |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
3632
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Posted - 2013.08.13 14:54:00 -
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Another wonderfull example of the species "egocentric, hateful carebear"
Thanks for proving again how much value and respect we should put into the likes of you.
I feel sad for everybody who is forced to share life with you.
Your post, btw, is more meaningless than the bounty feature... You could see that on your own, but you're too full of yourself. |
Dirk Decibel
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
36
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Posted - 2013.08.13 15:35:00 -
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Back in the days b4 my return to EVE you could just go and pod yourself with an alt. Did they find something to work around that yet then? |
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Carrelle Rouppon
Air Initiative Mercenaries
101
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Posted - 2013.08.13 15:45:00 -
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Another progressive thread... Without operations like mine it would be impossible for certain Alliances to conduct a respectable war. There are three basic types of arms deal: white, being legal, black, being illegal, and my personal favorite, gray. |
Nyla Skin
Maximum fun chamber
257
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Posted - 2013.08.13 16:02:00 -
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Dirk Decibel wrote:Back in the days b4 my return to EVE you could just go and pod yourself with an alt. Did they find something to work around that yet then?
You didn't need to do that. You could self-destruct your pod and collect your bounty yourself.
I would say the current system is an improvement. In after the lock :P - CCP Falcon |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
756
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Posted - 2013.08.13 16:25:00 -
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Possible scenarios; 1. You have a PvP alt to cash in kill rights. 2 You fly a ship not worth ganking.
Either way not meaningless and to my advantage and or entertainment. Eve is Real |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4505
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Posted - 2013.08.13 16:40:00 -
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Quote:Nope, Im acutally very quiet in general. Im an Indy, I don't go about "writing checks". I mine quietly after work.
Ahh yes, this entire thread is a testament to your quiet and humble nature. Who could possibly believe you excel at antagonizing those around you and bring most of these bounties to your head through your own actions. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Mr Pragmatic
611
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Posted - 2013.08.13 19:37:00 -
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Agreeing that bounties are pointless and with out consequence. Super cali hella yolo swaga dopeness. -á-Yoloswaggins, in the fellowship of the bling. |
Maldiro Selkurk
CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS type X
42
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Posted - 2013.08.13 20:19:00 -
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maybe you can have someone blow you up enough an split the bounty and then go get your pilot a remodel!! |
TharOkha
0asis Group
589
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Posted - 2013.08.13 20:44:00 -
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the only downside of the bounty system is that it pays only 20% of the victims ship lost. It should pay at least 50%. Now even if there is 400B on someones head it is the same as 4B, because most of the pirates fly not so expensive ships. GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |
KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
511
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Posted - 2013.08.13 21:11:00 -
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Broomhilde wrote:If you post on these forums and some know-it-all freak doesn't like what you have to say, you get a bounty. Ive never gotten a bounty for my posting before....
Does that mean Im doing it wrong or Im doing it right? |
MeestaPenni
Mercantile and Stuff
261
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Posted - 2013.08.13 23:15:00 -
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The current bounty system has about as much legitimacy as slapping a "kick me" sign on someone's back in a crowded hallway. And just about as juvenile. Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
I am not Prencleeve Grothsmore. |
Alaekessa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows
117
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Posted - 2013.08.13 23:32:00 -
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Zappity wrote:Ooh, I'd kill for your bounty! Hey, there's an idea... What's your favourite system?
It's called a Locator Agent, use it. C'mon CCP, let us suicide gank the high-sec pub matches in Dust..... |
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Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
637
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Posted - 2013.08.13 23:49:00 -
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I'm a carebear, in a steel ship I fly I'm wanted (wanted) dead or alive
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Shederov Blood
Wrecketeers
343
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Posted - 2013.08.14 00:32:00 -
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TharOkha wrote:the only downside of the bounty system is that it pays only 20% of the victims ship lost. It should pay at least 50%. Now even if there is 400B on someones head it is the same as 4B, because most of the pirates fly not so expensive ships. 50% payout would make it more meaningful, but there would have to be a corresponding reduction in the maximum insurance to prevent it becoming exploitable. Personally I think the minimum bounty placement could be raised a bit, and the "wanted" sign made less obstructive, but otherwise the system is at least functional, which is more than can be said for the old one. |
Demica Diaz
The Scope Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2013.08.14 00:41:00 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:TharOkha wrote:the only downside of the bounty system is that it pays only 20% of the victims ship lost. It should pay at least 50%. Now even if there is 400B on someones head it is the same as 4B, because most of the pirates fly not so expensive ships. 50% payout would make it more meaningful, but there would have to be a corresponding reduction in the maximum insurance to prevent it becoming exploitable. Personally I think the minimum bounty placement could be raised a bit, and the "wanted" sign made less obstructive, but otherwise the system is at least functional, which is more than can be said for the old one.
True, old one was horrible but this one aint great either. Most importantly... you cant place bounty on CCP toons! I tried but it seems Concord wasnt happy about it. |
Mekkimaru
Abraxsys Get Off My Lawn
4
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Posted - 2013.08.14 03:31:00 -
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RomeStar wrote:I put a bounty on you just for posting this crap.
"What you don't get is that EvE is the most handholding, casual game ever. It is like farmville. No competition for people that want to put time in it. EvE is the most casual game of all times." - Caesarion Prime 2013 |
TharOkha
0asis Group
590
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Posted - 2013.08.14 04:09:00 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:50% payout would make it more meaningful, but there would have to be a corresponding reduction in the maximum insurance to prevent it becoming exploitable. Well yes, but it would be exploitable only if you fly t1 ships where insurance is calculated from the base price of the hull. T2, faction and pirate ships dont have such insurance and this is something what should be changed. Also pods with implants dont have insurance too.
Simple if you destroy anything but T1 you should receive 50-70% of the bounty, if T1 = 20%. GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |
Nyla Skin
Maximum fun chamber
258
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Posted - 2013.08.14 04:17:00 -
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TharOkha wrote:the only downside of the bounty system is that it pays only 20% of the victims ship lost. It should pay at least 50%. Now even if there is 400B on someones head it is the same as 4B, because most of the pirates fly not so expensive ships.
You know its that way to discourage killing yourself with alts. If you do that, you lose money on the ships. The current bounty system works, although without fanfare.
ps. I used to put a bounty on myself so people would attack me more. In after the lock :P - CCP Falcon |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
3190
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Posted - 2013.08.14 04:24:00 -
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Broomhilde wrote:Daimon Kaiera wrote:Are you trying to look like Erotica? Eve's only legitimate Isk doublerGäó ? Nope, Nikki Minaj, doh! I'm from Queens, same neighborhood as her. Not enough duck-face though.
I once got a 20mil bounty for posting on a guy's thread. It's a start I guess. |
TharOkha
0asis Group
590
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Posted - 2013.08.14 04:29:00 -
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Nyla Skin wrote:TharOkha wrote:the only downside of the bounty system is that it pays only 20% of the victims ship lost. It should pay at least 50%. Now even if there is 400B on someones head it is the same as 4B, because most of the pirates fly not so expensive ships. You know its that way to discourage killing yourself with alts. If you do that, you lose money on the ships. The current bounty system works, although without fanfare. ps. I used to put a bounty on myself so people would attack me more.
Read the post no. 53
GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |
Mercas Alderau
Wholesale Merchants
6
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Posted - 2013.08.14 06:05:00 -
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Dirk Decibel wrote:Back in the days b4 my return to EVE you could just go and pod yourself with an alt. Did they find something to work around that yet then?
They did. Payout is now based on the ISK-value of your actual loss (ship & pod). 20% of the lost ISK-value is paid out until the bounty is depleted. If you use an alt to get rid of your bounty, you'll have to pay roughly three times the bounty-amount in lost ships/modules. (5 times if you don't use insurance) |
Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1123
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Posted - 2013.08.14 06:12:00 -
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OP is obviously farming for bounties here. I'm not falling for it. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
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