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Grace Amber
Sphinx Industries
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Posted - 2013.08.14 10:02:00 -
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I have being reading the sell forums for a while now and realise that im poor, very poor.
Now i arent as active as most however i do spend 1 hour a day ish on eve and have amassed a wealth of about 4B in assetts. however when you see people bid 350B on two t2 BPO's it dampens your day. These guys cant all be corp thiefs really can they or do they just live on eve?
Surely nobody has that much liquid isk in a wallet.
So here goes my aim of making 10B in two month. Wish me luck :)
Any suggestions on how to do it LEGIT?
Incursions, null ratting, market trading? etc? |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
9153
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Posted - 2013.08.14 10:04:00 -
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I was fooled into thinking this had anything to do with the wallet settings
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Suddenly Spaceships.
795
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Posted - 2013.08.14 10:06:00 -
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Grace Amber wrote:I have being reading the sell forums for a while now and realise that im poor, very poor.
Now i arent as active as most however i do spend 1 hour a day ish on eve and have amassed a wealth of about 4B in assetts. however when you see people bid 350B on two t2 BPO's it dampens your day. These guys cant all be corp thiefs really can they or do they just live on eve?
Surely nobody has that much liquid isk in a wallet.
So here goes my aim of making 10B in two month. Wish me luck :)
Any suggestions on how to do it LEGIT?
Incursions, null ratting, market trading? etc?
I wonder what Chribba thinks about that.
Oh wait...
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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Cebraio
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
315
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Posted - 2013.08.14 10:13:00 -
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Here are some numbers to ease your pain: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=66491
You already have more money than the average player.
Some people in EVE have way too much isk, but that's a minority. (The 1% ?) |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3870
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Posted - 2013.08.14 11:22:00 -
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Grace Amber wrote:Incursions, null ratting, market trading? etc?
Depends how much butt in chair time you want to spend. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
1803
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Posted - 2013.08.14 11:28:00 -
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Grace Amber wrote:I have being reading the sell forums for a while now and realise that im poor, very poor.
Now i arent as active as most however i do spend 1 hour a day ish on eve and have amassed a wealth of about 4B in assetts. however when you see people bid 350B on two t2 BPO's it dampens your day. These guys cant all be corp thiefs really can they or do they just live on eve?
Surely nobody has that much liquid isk in a wallet.
So here goes my aim of making 10B in two month. Wish me luck :)
Any suggestions on how to do it LEGIT?
Incursions, null ratting, market trading? etc?
You can make a /lot/ of isk in the Market. If you're willing to put in the time to learn the way it's shifting, and keep on top of that.
(I'm not. Which is why I do industry) Steve Ronuken for CSM 9!-á I'm starting early :) Handy tools and an SDE conversion Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter |
Kehro Urgus
Ab Obice Saevior
909
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Posted - 2013.08.14 11:34:00 -
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If I had 4 billion iskies I would buy you an emu GÖ¬GÖ½ I would make a sig but it would frighten and offend you. |
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
757
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Posted - 2013.08.14 11:35:00 -
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OP you should partake in Erotica1's services, I'm sure she will be in this thread soon to tell you how to increase your wallet.
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |
ACE McFACE
Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve
1450
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Posted - 2013.08.14 11:40:00 -
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Don't worry, its not how much money you have, but how much money you need to have fun. I have 1.5b and thats easily enough for what I do (Shoot stuff) You should be notified if someone quotes your post so you can continue the argument! |
Lee Saisima
Caldari Arms and Industry
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Posted - 2013.08.14 11:59:00 -
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Liquid ISK is just a number. Making that number bigger doesn't necessarily mean that you are going to have a better sense of accomplishment or more enjoyment in the game. As long as you spend the ISK doing the activities you want to be doing, and not just measuring your wallet against someone else's, won't that give you more credible reason to be making ISK in the first place? Whether it's 10 million ISK you have in your wallet or 300 billion, no-one is really watching or particularly cares; and fundamentally, do you really care about the size of the number so long as you are having a good time playing the game? A couple T2 BPOs won't make a blind bit of difference to those players bidding in the marketing forum, they will just want the next most expensive thing when it crops up, and the next. You will always be on the middle steps of a never-ending ladder. That being said, if accumulating ISK is what you want to do, go all out for it. I love market trading myself and the player-driven market is one of the main reasons I stay subscribed. But don't just weigh your game-playing experience on the "ISK-per-hour" philosophy - you'll burn out quickly and resent a lot of activities in the game that you may actually find enjoyable. Have fun! |
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William Walker
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
232
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Posted - 2013.08.14 11:59:00 -
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Playing the market is the easiest way to make big bucks. Put your money into assets, sell and buy orders, and work it. The rest is real work and tedious by comparison. pâ+(*GîÆGêçGîÆ*)n+ë pü+(pé£GêçpÇü-¦)pü+ (GùòGÇ+GùòG£+) |
Grace Amber
Sphinx Industries
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Posted - 2013.08.14 12:09:00 -
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Lee Saisima wrote:Liquid ISK is just a number. Making that number bigger doesn't necessarily mean that you are going to have a better sense of accomplishment or more enjoyment in the game. As long as you spend the ISK doing the activities you want to be doing, and not just measuring your wallet against someone else's, won't that give you more credible reason to be making ISK in the first place? Whether it's 10 million ISK you have in your wallet or 300 billion, no-one is really watching or particularly cares; and fundamentally, do you really care about the size of the number so long as you are having a good time playing the game? A couple T2 BPOs won't make a blind bit of difference to those players bidding in the marketing forum, they will just want the next most expensive thing when it crops up, and the next. You will always be on the middle steps of a never-ending ladder. That being said, if accumulating ISK is what you want to do, go all out for it. I love market trading myself and the player-driven market is one of the main reasons I stay subscribed. But don't just weigh your game-playing experience on the "ISK-per-hour" philosophy - you'll burn out quickly and resent a lot of activities in the game that you may actually find enjoyable. Have fun!
It's not that i want to act like a bigger epeen however i would like to expand the number of ships i have so i can have a variety that i can fly instead of it being Tengu, Tengu, Tengu, Legion, Loki, Tengu, Tengu and maybe a CN Hookbill occasionally. Without isk you cannot purchase and fit these :) |
Hugo Z Hackenbush
State War Academy Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2013.08.14 12:17:00 -
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Just steal ur mum's credit card and buy loads of plexs! Eve is like the way that gun law equals a lot of deaths followed by a lot of people being real nice to each other, well, it would be if we all had our names and address posted on our character info! I wonder just how many players would still act like assholes? Fly safe, and lock your back door tonight! |
Grace Amber
Sphinx Industries
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Posted - 2013.08.14 12:19:00 -
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Hugo Z Hackenbush wrote:Just steal ur mum's credit card and buy loads of plexs!
I have my own credit card but unfortunately that isn't the way i approach any subject id rather learn and benefit then buy my way through. |
Lee Saisima
Caldari Arms and Industry
5
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Posted - 2013.08.14 12:27:00 -
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Grace Amber wrote:Lee Saisima wrote:Liquid ISK is just a number. Making that number bigger doesn't necessarily mean that you are going to have a better sense of accomplishment or more enjoyment in the game. As long as you spend the ISK doing the activities you want to be doing, and not just measuring your wallet against someone else's, won't that give you more credible reason to be making ISK in the first place? Whether it's 10 million ISK you have in your wallet or 300 billion, no-one is really watching or particularly cares; and fundamentally, do you really care about the size of the number so long as you are having a good time playing the game? A couple T2 BPOs won't make a blind bit of difference to those players bidding in the marketing forum, they will just want the next most expensive thing when it crops up, and the next. You will always be on the middle steps of a never-ending ladder. That being said, if accumulating ISK is what you want to do, go all out for it. I love market trading myself and the player-driven market is one of the main reasons I stay subscribed. But don't just weigh your game-playing experience on the "ISK-per-hour" philosophy - you'll burn out quickly and resent a lot of activities in the game that you may actually find enjoyable. Have fun! It's not that i want to act like a bigger epeen however i would like to expand the number of ships i have so i can have a variety that i can fly instead of it being Tengu, Tengu, Tengu, Legion, Loki, Tengu, Tengu and maybe a CN Hookbill occasionally. Without isk you cannot purchase and fit these :)
Well, there you go, to me you are rich indeed because I wouldn't even be able to afford a T3 sub-system at the moment! If you can fly a T3, then I hear that anomalies & complexes make very good ISK, depending on which security sector you are doing them in. If you can fly with friends, even better. But then you run the risk of losing a T3, of course.
Trading is a more sure-fire way of grinding up the ISK, but if you do not already have Skill Points invested in the Trading skillset, then you will need to train those up intensively across the two-month period. The "Margin Trading" skill is very useful in this regard, as it lowers the amount of ISK you have to place in Escrow (put aside for the buy order), meaning that you can set up multiple lucrative buy orders at once if you are careful and with a little forethought. The marketing skills and the trading method will see your ISK grow exponentially; starting out from what might seem like a very small increase in ISK, and gradually maintaining momentum until you are able to sustain a lot of market orders at once and shift around a lot of items consistently. Ofc, you will rarely have a lot of liquid ISK, as it will all be tied up in the commodities you are trading, so keep that in mind.
TLDR - using your T3 skills for anomalies and complexes is a "brute force" way of making good ISK. Trading requires more attention and time management, but is probably more feasible with the right skills trained for taking on such a challenge.
But have fun doing it! |
Mycool Jahksn
Viziam Amarr Empire
22
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Posted - 2013.08.14 14:42:00 -
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Well if you take me for example I've played this game since 2004. And the best way to earn money is to make safe investments on the market.
One important thing to understand is that prices rise and fall and they do so all the time.
Minerals are always cheaper in summer than they are in winter.
Why?
More people play when winter comes, more wars, more lost ships.
Minerals are always traded in gigantic volumes so it's easy to sell them when the time comes. People who produce ships always need to keep their BPO's running.
My personal opinion is that Zydrine is cheap right now, I've never seen Zyd go for less than 610 isk or something and you can buy it for about 630 right now so.
That plus the fact that they didn't add zydrine to any ore during the resource rebalancing that happened recently.
Link: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/resource-companion-blog#ORE
Of course, there are more time consuming activities that you could do where you buy and sell around the clock and also more risky investments in moon materials for example which could net you 5 times your money in just a few months. Teonosude. |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
5563
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Posted - 2013.08.14 14:49:00 -
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While 4B is a pittance to some, it's not an insignificant amount of money for a lot of other players. Personally I've got more SP then ISK at the moment, so your wallet is fat compared to mine. At best of times I've got 1B+, but it has a tendency to disappear soon after. |
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
276
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Posted - 2013.08.14 15:02:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:While 4B is a pittance to some, it's not an insignificant amount of money for a lot of other players. Personally I've got more SP then ISK at the moment, so your wallet is fat compared to mine. At best of times I've got 1B+, but it has a tendency to disappear soon after. My main has gone north of 2B in fungible assets. Other assets probably amount to another 2+b ISK, if fully realized (which would take some serious work, to be honest).
I'm not space-rich, but that's more than sufficient to keep me in flammible hulls. |
Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
637
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Posted - 2013.08.14 15:15:00 -
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Chribba wrote:I was fooled into thinking this had anything to do with the wallet settings
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeLnS8O08ng |
Alice Saki
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
82000
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Posted - 2013.08.14 15:53:00 -
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Gamble.... Somer Blink made me rich... Just know it's a Scam and your fine...
Scams can be beaten, The thing is to know when to Bail out.....
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Liam Inkuras
Justified Chaos
387
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Posted - 2013.08.14 16:18:00 -
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Alice Saki wrote:Gamble.... Somer Blink made me rich... Just know it's a Scam and your fine...
Scams can be beaten, The thing is to know when to Bail out..... Oh, I guess I can do just one more blink before bed... I wear my goggles at night.
Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone |
Captain Gingerbeer
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.08.14 16:39:00 -
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Depends where you live. Find one of those 350B BPOs to sell. Join a wormhole corp... they like T3s. I could've made 15 mil in about 4 minutes last night with 8 jumps in highsec... But couldn't fly the ship for 19 more days...
Recognising how the rich spend their ISK is a benefit, whether you deliberately choose to "play the market" or not. Someone always wants the faction/named items. Someone always flys the tight fits, and needs 10% more of 50 instead of 10% more of 5000. Someone is always willing to buy in whatever station they are docked instead of 4 jumps away. Someone always wants ISK now, instead of waiting for a Sell order.
Best advice to enjoy the game while getting rich is decide which part of the UI you like staring at most, and make your money there. Combat, exploration, rocks, courier, market, contracts, chat box... You'll have to look at it for a long time, don't be bored while doing it. The rest will come unless you are...daft. |
Obunagawe
213
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Posted - 2013.08.14 17:37:00 -
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ITT: Poors saying isk doesn't matter. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
5732
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Posted - 2013.08.14 18:44:00 -
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Grace Amber wrote:So here goes my aim of making 10B in two month. Wish me luck :)
Any suggestions on how to do it LEGIT?
Sell 20 PLEX.
10B instantly. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
adopt
Tr0pa de elite. Pandemic Legion
606
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Posted - 2013.08.14 20:02:00 -
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https://ohheck.co.uk/EVEStats/richlist.php
I hope you feel deflated now. Shadoo > Always remember to fit Cynosural Field Generator I, have 450 Liquid Ozone in your cargo and convo a friendly Pandemic Legion member if you have a capital or super capital ship tackled.
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Chin MonWang
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2013.08.17 12:10:00 -
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Grace Amber wrote:I have being reading the sell forums for a while now and realise that im poor, very poor.
Now i arent as active as most however i do spend 1 hour a day ish on eve and have amassed a wealth of about 4B in assetts. however when you see people bid 350B on two t2 BPO's it dampens your day. These guys cant all be corp thiefs really can they or do they just live on eve?
Surely nobody has that much liquid isk in a wallet.
So here goes my aim of making 10B in two month. Wish me luck :)
Any suggestions on how to do it LEGIT?
Incursions, null ratting, market trading? etc?
How many ISK? I think this all depends what you realy would want to do for entertainment/fun in EVE. Some good and to-the-point comments were already provided in this thread by others. And as to isk, my personal experience is that I often do not even know what to buy else in EVE. Anyway, I am glad that there is the easy way for getting isk available by just buying some plex and converting those at Jita. Since the far less attractive alternative way would be having to do a lot of mining etc. before purchasing the things one wants.
Maybe I may add this as one of the many possible solutions available to you: why do you not start some blog in EVE Gate and present youself as the very first psychiatrist in EVE (for fees in isk of course)? Some Dr. Phil (in your case female) refreshing and charging up the minds of defeated pvp-pilots in EVE? You could become incredibly rich that way, who knows? |
Tarpedo
Incursionista
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Posted - 2013.08.17 12:17:00 -
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Join incursions communities or faction warfare. |
Demica Diaz
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.17 12:49:00 -
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Good luck OP. But before you do something like that, ask yourself why are you farming all that ISK? If you have somekind of long time investment plan or you just enjoy trade then yeah sure, but if you plan to run incursions or level 4s nonestop just because you want 10 billion ISK, then I think it is quite boring. After all it is just a number in mmo game. I personally just keep enough ISK to buy new ship if I lose corrent one and thats all I really need. I sub game for real life money to support CCP so no need to grind 500 million / month to pay for sub and I dont have alts to support. |
Death Reign
EntroPrelatial Industria Here Be Dragons
1
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Posted - 2013.08.17 20:27:00 -
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Demica Diaz wrote:Good luck OP. But before you do something like that, ask yourself why are you farming all that ISK? If you have somekind of long time investment plan or you just enjoy trade then yeah sure, but if you plan to run incursions or level 4s nonestop just because you want 10 billion ISK, then I think it is quite boring. After all it is just a number in mmo game. I personally just keep enough ISK to buy new ship if I lose corrent one and thats all I really need. I sub game for real life money to support CCP so no need to grind 500 million / month to pay for sub and I dont have alts to support.
Someone Paid that 15-20 Dollars for the plex's I use to Sub my Accts. I support CCP wether I plex or or not. Someone somewhere paid the fee. |
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