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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2013.08.15 15:58:00 -
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How did most people make the transition from CareBear to pew? I was fortunate enough to have a teacher and am killing it forward...but not everyone is so fortunate!
Some thoughts to return EvE to its HTFU roots...
- Allow war deccing of NPC corporations (my personal fave) - Stations force an undock and poop players out who remain inside longer than 'x' minutes. Combine this with a cannot-redock in same station time for 'y' time for additional fun - Players cannot quit a corporation under current wardecs, quit happens once current wars end - ?
http://evedarklord.blogspot.ca |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
3294
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Posted - 2013.08.15 16:02:00 -
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--> My EVE
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
TheBlueMonkey
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2013.08.15 16:02:00 -
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- Allow war deccing of NPC corporations (my personal fave) ** bad for newbies - Stations force an undock and poop players out who remain inside longer than 'x' minutes. Combine this with a cannot-redock in same station time for 'y' time for additional fun ** bad for traders - Players cannot quit a corporation under current wardecs, quit happens once current wars end ** not so bad tbh - ?
My story is pretty simple, I was in a fleet and the FC told me to shoot at things, so I did. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
448
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Posted - 2013.08.15 16:06:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:How did most people make the transition from CareBear to pew? I was fortunate enough to have a teacher and am killing it forward...but not everyone is so fortunate! Some thoughts to return EvE to its HTFU roots... - Allow war deccing of NPC corporations (my personal fave) - Stations force an undock and poop players out who remain inside longer than 'x' minutes. Combine this with a cannot-redock in same station time for 'y' time for additional fun - Players cannot quit a corporation under current wardecs, quit happens once current wars end - ? So let me undserstand this. You want to get easy kills, and want to do that by making the game suck for newbies, traders and anyone afk? So basically you want the EVE population to die, gotcha. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Icarus Able
Traverse Holdings
67
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Posted - 2013.08.15 16:08:00 -
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Those are awful ideas. Apart from maybe the wardec one. Or maybe allow them to leave but they are still wardecced until the renewal.
I got bored of pewing Npcs and joined RvB a week or so into playing. |
handbanana
State War Academy Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2013.08.15 16:10:00 -
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I've been gone for a while, but when did GD become the catch-all dumping ground for terrible game ideas and crappy player blogs?
Tonight....you.
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Indiana Clones
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.15 16:10:00 -
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Most people don't.
Also, you're a high sec PvP'r.... not sure you have the balls to talk about this. |
Riot Girl
Krypteia Operations
1581
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Posted - 2013.08.15 16:18:00 -
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Indiana Clones wrote:Also, you're a high sec PvP'r.... not sure you have the balls to talk about this. What difference does it make? Oh god. |
Kamenev Drang
Tritanium Industries and Technology Tribal Band
20
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Posted - 2013.08.15 16:52:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:Indiana Clones wrote:Also, you're a high sec PvP'r.... not sure you have the balls to talk about this. What difference does it make?
Lol.
Oh wait you're serious. |
Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
68
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Posted - 2013.08.15 16:56:00 -
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I've only transitioned from weirdo to goofball.... Everyone is always repeating the mantra "Don't Trust Anyone" ad nauseum... If I can't trust the guys I play with, why bother playing with them at all? Fly Solo... |
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
5771
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Posted - 2013.08.15 16:57:00 -
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Its another damn blog plug thread.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
137
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Posted - 2013.08.15 17:17:00 -
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TheBlueMonkey wrote:- Allow war deccing of NPC corporations (my personal fave) ** bad for newbies
Is it better to give a carebear a fish (nerfs), or to teach him how to fish (survive during wartime through aggro)?
I ask this in all seriousness, as losec and null remain generally empty and everyone remains safely ensconced in hisec. Will they go there sooner or later with hisec remaining a disneyland? Will the content in hisec become more or less stagnant with carebear loving nerfs?
Quote: - Stations force an undock and poop players out who remain inside longer than 'x' minutes. Combine this with a cannot-redock in same station time for 'y' time for additional fun ** bad for traders
Worth the benefits IMHO, to reduce dock-up pussification on a grand scale, with the minor inconvenience to a trader having to re-dock every hour.
http://evedarklord.blogspot.ca |
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
137
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Posted - 2013.08.15 17:24:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote: So let me undserstand this. You want to get easy kills,
I (and others) want competitive content, best manifested in fights, easy or otherwise. Ships and pixels exploding good, people in hisec wrapped in bubble wrap bad.
Quote: and want to do that by making the game suck for newbies, traders and anyone afk?
The first time a girl pushed your hand away from her boobies or crotch, it sucked. The next time when one let you get to third base it didn't, you learned to enjoy hitting on girls (hopefully) after getting over the first painful hurdles. Do you want carebears to remain virgins forever?
Quote: So basically you want the EVE population to die, gotcha.
I just want my bubble wrapped space virgins to get more EVE space poon. http://evedarklord.blogspot.ca |
Mildew Wolf
96
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Posted - 2013.08.15 17:28:00 -
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its a psychological issue not a game mechanics problem
most players seem to be trying to make pvp unappealing to others imo
thanks to those that actually help and encourage the newer potential pvp players
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
2595
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Posted - 2013.08.15 17:31:00 -
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Oh look, someone else with bad ideas to make everyone play the game their way, AND a subtle blawg link.
*yawn*
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Wingmate
Raven's Flight Nulli Secunda
118
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Posted - 2013.08.15 17:32:00 -
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i love it when moron scrubs say they want to make eve go 'back to its roots' by making the game easier for their playstyle (irony number 1), ignoring the fact that removing traders/manufacturers/miners from the game just means that item prices will go through the damned roof (irony number 2). |
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
137
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Posted - 2013.08.15 17:55:00 -
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Wingmate wrote:i love it when moron scrubs say they want to make eve go 'back to its roots' by making the game easier for their playstyle (irony number 1), ignoring the fact that removing traders/manufacturers/miners from the game just means that item prices will go through the damned roof (irony number 2). While I fully understand the psychosis that accompanies a scrub which can only get kills whoring off of blobs of 10+ players or more in size trying to enhance their e-peen by spuriously bashing others with red herring arguments...
...please do try to keep this thread at the level of excellence we have all come to expect from an EVEO forum discussion.
Now, no one suggested removing traders/manufacturers/miners/your mother from EvE. Said parties enjoyed high success prior to the numerous hisec nerfs mentioned in the blog being made. A return to previous-to-nerf state will not 'kill EVE' as you hyperbole. Barring other changes like forced periodic undocks, can we not at least agree on rolling back the nerfs mentioned here? Would you like to know more? |
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ISD Gallifreyan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.08.15 18:01:00 -
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While I do not believe either of these proposals have much value from balance perspective, I cannot lock it for any rules violations.
The topic is more of a Features and Ideas Section topic, so I will move it there.
Please keep on topic and post constructively. I will be monitoring this thread, for violations. ISD Gallifreyan Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCL) Interstellar Services Department |
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Omnathious Deninard
Novis Initiis
1444
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Posted - 2013.08.15 18:05:00 -
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ISD Gallifreyan wrote:While I do not believe either of these proposals have much value from balance perspective, I cannot lock it for any rules violations.
So you send it to F&I to die. Ideas for Drone Improvement |
Elfi Wolfe
University of Caille Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.08.15 18:09:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:How did most people make the transition from CareBear to pew? I was fortunate enough to have a teacher and am killing it forward...but not everyone is so fortunate! Some thoughts to return EvE to its HTFU roots... - Allow war deccing of NPC corporations (my personal fave) [kinda joking/trolling with this one...] - Stations force an undock and poop players out who remain inside longer than 'x' minutes. Combine this with a cannot-redock in same station time for 'y' time for additional fun - Players cannot quit a corporation under current wardecs, quit happens once current wars end - ?
You forgot to add -players cannot log off till they pad your kill-board.
"Please point out on the doll where the evil carebear touched you." |
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Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc Ex Cinere Scriptor
2435
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Posted - 2013.08.15 18:14:00 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:ISD Gallifreyan wrote:While I do not believe either of these proposals have much value from balance perspective, I cannot lock it for any rules violations.
So you send it to F&I to die. F&I.... AH
Welcome, to Fantasy Island!
Smiles everyone, smiles!
(waves to musicians and dancing girls to begin performing)
And what wishes can we make come true for you, our new guests ...? Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence So Local Chat vanished, now what? |
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
137
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Posted - 2013.08.15 18:17:00 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:ISD Gallifreyan wrote:While I do not believe either of these proposals have much value from balance perspective, I cannot lock it for any rules violations.
So you send it to F&I to die.
I am glad to be informed that its an ISD's role to measure the value of proposals on game balance, but have the dev's been notified of this?
I wonder though, can there be a feature added to the site to allow members to register disdain for moving threads critical of CCP to sub threads to die, or should just the +1 button be used here to do so?
Would you like to know more? |
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ISD Gallifreyan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
215
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Posted - 2013.08.15 18:25:00 -
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We follow the rules. This is the section for this discussion.
If it has merit, the Devs will see it here.
Please make your argument supporting where these proposed ideas are balanced for all players. ISD Gallifreyan Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCL) Interstellar Services Department |
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Wingmate
Raven's Flight Nulli Secunda
118
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Posted - 2013.08.15 18:29:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Wingmate wrote:i love it when moron scrubs say they want to make eve go 'back to its roots' by making the game easier for their playstyle (irony number 1), ignoring the fact that removing traders/manufacturers/miners from the game just means that item prices will go through the damned roof (irony number 2). While I fully understand the psychosis that accompanies a scrub which can only get kills whoring off of blobs of 10+ players or more in size trying to enhance their e-peen by spuriously bashing others with red herring arguments... ...please do try to keep this thread at the level of excellence we have all come to expect from an EVEO forum discussion. Now, no one suggested removing traders/manufacturers/miners/your mother from EvE. Said parties enjoyed high success prior to the numerous hisec nerfs mentioned in the blog being made. A return to previous-to-nerf state will not 'kill EVE' as you hyperbole. Barring other changes like forced periodic undocks, can we not at least agree on rolling back the nerfs mentioned here?
i was referring to the idea of auto-undocks when i was talking about driving miners, industrialists, and the like out of the game. |
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
349
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Posted - 2013.08.15 18:40:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:ISD Gallifreyan wrote:While I do not believe either of these proposals have much value from balance perspective, I cannot lock it for any rules violations.
So you send it to F&I to die. I am glad to be informed that its an ISD's role to measure the value of proposals on game balance, but have the dev's been notified of this? I wonder though, can there be a feature added to the site to allow members to register disdain for moving threads critical of CCP to sub threads to die, or should just the +1 button be used here to do so?
Leave ISD alone FFS. They have a hell of a job to do monitoring all those "NERF CLOAKYS" threads for trolls and have rules and guides.
On Topic: The "Cannot Leave Corp During War Dec" is a catch 22:
Say you didn't want the war and couldn't get out of your Corp...you're stuck. What if your Corp is in perpetuals\multiple wars? Stuck forever? And people will unsub and EVE will die. I don;t want that but I agree jumping out during War Decs to avoid them needs to be looked at. Maybe a 30 days from War Dec Start till you can leave or something? I don't know. Fast Character Switching "XP Stylee" Undocking - More Routes Out of Station Here's my tear jar > |_| < Fill 'er up! |
Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc Ex Cinere Scriptor
2436
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Posted - 2013.08.15 18:47:00 -
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Maximus Aerelius wrote:Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:ISD Gallifreyan wrote:While I do not believe either of these proposals have much value from balance perspective, I cannot lock it for any rules violations.
So you send it to F&I to die. I am glad to be informed that its an ISD's role to measure the value of proposals on game balance, but have the dev's been notified of this? I wonder though, can there be a feature added to the site to allow members to register disdain for moving threads critical of CCP to sub threads to die, or should just the +1 button be used here to do so? Leave ISD alone FFS. They have a hell of a job to do monitoring all those "NERF CLOAKYS" threads for trolls and have rules and guides. On Topic: The "Cannot Leave Corp During War Dec" is a catch 22: Say you didn't want the war and couldn't get out of your Corp...you're stuck. What if your Corp is in perpetuals\multiple wars? Stuck forever? And people will unsub and EVE will die. I don;t want that but I agree jumping out during War Decs to avoid them needs to be looked at. Maybe a 30 days from War Dec Start till you can leave or something? I don't know. I would say put on a timer, maybe for 24 hours, where you are still flagged as being in the corp for hostiles to shoot at. Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence So Local Chat vanished, now what? |
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ISD Gallifreyan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2013.08.15 18:48:00 -
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I have no distain for moving threads I don't like. I do not think this is an Anti-CCP thread.
I do think the idea is borderline Trolling
Quote:5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote. However I do not think that is the spirit of the suggestion so I have not locked it, so as to allow further discussion as a balanced Moderator.
Please continue to support your Suggestion. ISD Gallifreyan Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCL) Interstellar Services Department |
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Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
350
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Posted - 2013.08.15 18:58:00 -
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Nikk Narrel wrote:Maximus Aerelius wrote:Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:ISD Gallifreyan wrote:While I do not believe either of these proposals have much value from balance perspective, I cannot lock it for any rules violations.
So you send it to F&I to die. I am glad to be informed that its an ISD's role to measure the value of proposals on game balance, but have the dev's been notified of this? I wonder though, can there be a feature added to the site to allow members to register disdain for moving threads critical of CCP to sub threads to die, or should just the +1 button be used here to do so? Leave ISD alone FFS. They have a hell of a job to do monitoring all those "NERF CLOAKYS" threads for trolls and have rules and guides. On Topic: The "Cannot Leave Corp During War Dec" is a catch 22: Say you didn't want the war and couldn't get out of your Corp...you're stuck. What if your Corp is in perpetuals\multiple wars? Stuck forever? And people will unsub and EVE will die. I don;t want that but I agree jumping out during War Decs to avoid them needs to be looked at. Maybe a 30 days from War Dec Start till you can leave or something? I don't know. I would say put on a timer, maybe for 24 hours, where you are still flagged as being in the corp for hostiles to shoot at.
What about 72hrs Nikk just to give a bit more ummppf? Fast Character Switching "XP Stylee" Undocking - More Routes Out of Station Here's my tear jar > |_| < Fill 'er up! |
Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc Ex Cinere Scriptor
2436
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Posted - 2013.08.15 19:03:00 -
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Maximus Aerelius wrote:Nikk Narrel wrote:Maximus Aerelius wrote:Leave ISD alone FFS. They have a hell of a job to do monitoring all those "NERF CLOAKYS" threads for trolls and have rules and guides.
On Topic: The "Cannot Leave Corp During War Dec" is a catch 22:
Say you didn't want the war and couldn't get out of your Corp...you're stuck. What if your Corp is in perpetuals\multiple wars? Stuck forever? And people will unsub and EVE will die. I don;t want that but I agree jumping out during War Decs to avoid them needs to be looked at. Maybe a 30 days from War Dec Start till you can leave or something? I don't know. I would say put on a timer, maybe for 24 hours, where you are still flagged as being in the corp for hostiles to shoot at. What about 72hrs Nikk just to give a bit more ummppf? That sounds reasonable.
Any longer than that, and I would be concerned over collateral effects to pilots simply wanting to leave, but with bad timing.
Also, I would qualify, that if they had dropped roles in preparation to leave before the war was declared, they be exempt by virtue of clear intent to leave pre-existing the possible motive of avoiding a war dec. Something like a 24 hour grace period to leave after roles dropped, so they had a chance to log in and complete the exit. Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence So Local Chat vanished, now what? |
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ISD Gallifreyan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
219
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Posted - 2013.08.15 19:09:00 -
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Nikk Narrel wrote:Maximus Aerelius wrote:Nikk Narrel wrote:Maximus Aerelius wrote:Leave ISD alone FFS. They have a hell of a job to do monitoring all those "NERF CLOAKYS" threads for trolls and have rules and guides.
On Topic: The "Cannot Leave Corp During War Dec" is a catch 22:
Say you didn't want the war and couldn't get out of your Corp...you're stuck. What if your Corp is in perpetuals\multiple wars? Stuck forever? And people will unsub and EVE will die. I don;t want that but I agree jumping out during War Decs to avoid them needs to be looked at. Maybe a 30 days from War Dec Start till you can leave or something? I don't know. I would say put on a timer, maybe for 24 hours, where you are still flagged as being in the corp for hostiles to shoot at. What about 72hrs Nikk just to give a bit more ummppf? That sounds reasonable. Any longer than that, and I would be concerned over collateral effects to pilots simply wanting to leave, but with bad timing. Also, I would qualify, that if they had dropped roles in preparation to leave before the war was declared, they be exempt by virtue of clear intent to leave pre-existing the possible motive of avoiding a war dec. Something like a 24 hour grace period to leave after roles dropped, so they had a chance to log in and complete the exit.
This seems like a decent balaced perspective for improving this mechanic. ISD Gallifreyan Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCL) Interstellar Services Department |
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