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Captain Tardbar
Sons of Sam
449
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Posted - 2013.08.18 16:05:00 -
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So I had eyes on a Caldari Ice belt last night... Prime Time too.
Everyone is minding their own business for a an hour or two and then I finally see 4 catalysts pop a Mack. This is actually not that unsual for the system.
As my friends quickly snag all the loot, we wait for more of a show to happen.
Then a covertor shows up in the belt and for the rest of the night (probaly 2 hours) it mines away with impunity.
We were waiting for them to get concord to show up somewhere else by using an Ibis to pull them away, but sadly no one did anything for the rest of the night even after another belt spawned.
There were plenty of retreivers and mack shooting their lasers at the Ice roids.
Some friends in the belt (AKA Those who were in the category of caution) were using Skiffs with 75K EPH getting boosts with their bulk head tanked Orcas sitting off 0m from the a nearby station so they could quickly warp to it and dump there loads.
I saw a few Skiffs have the balls to bring out an indy and can mining yet no one was molesting them.
So this whole Ice Belt mining doesn't really seem to be stopping the flow of Ice.
Plenty of people still ice mining in non-skiffs and there was 1 gank for about 4 hours of watching.
So I can only assume the rise in Ice prices has something to do with market speculation because even though the belts may not have bot balls (which I think is maybe the nicest thing about this) but the belts are still being mined out and the ice is still flowing.
Which is just making the ice miners rich with the current prices. Whooptie doo. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
36448
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Posted - 2013.08.18 16:08:00 -
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CCP's Mandatory 4-Hour Cooldown Period seems to have some side-effects. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
4258
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Posted - 2013.08.18 16:13:00 -
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As I predicted and posted on GD months ago, the new ice mining mechanic would adversely affect gankers much more than miners. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Captain Tardbar
Sons of Sam
449
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Posted - 2013.08.18 16:19:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:As I predicted and posted on GD months ago, the new ice mining mechanic would adversely affect gankers much more than miners.
Yeah that seems to be the case. Intel says they are much more active right after downtime because they know the belt is up, but after that its a crapshoot to know when the belt will be back.
No ganker worth his salt wants to sit in a system wait 4 hours until a belt spawns.
Unless they have miner friends who secretly pass them info about when the belt spawns happen. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |
Leigh Akiga
State War Academy Caldari State
85
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Posted - 2013.08.18 16:21:00 -
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buy my topes |
Just Lilly
106
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Posted - 2013.08.18 16:28:00 -
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Player generated content... Powered by Nvidia GTX 690 |
ArmyOfMe
TEDDYBEARS. Easily Excited
157
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Posted - 2013.08.18 16:32:00 -
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So, you and your friends sat for hours, watching some ppl mine ice, in the hopes of stealing more of the loot? Suleiman Shouaa> And you still think you're taking risks? NightmareX> I do. I take risks every day. But i do whatever i can to make sure i'm not ending up in a loss.
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KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
543
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Posted - 2013.08.18 16:42:00 -
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ArmyOfMe wrote:So, you and your friends sat for hours, watching some ppl mine ice, in the hopes of stealing more of the loot?
Its the ciiiiircle of liiiiiiiiiife! |
Captain Tardbar
Sons of Sam
449
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Posted - 2013.08.18 16:46:00 -
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ArmyOfMe wrote:So, you and your friends sat for hours, watching some ppl mine ice, in the hopes of stealing more of the loot?
I sat in Jita for hours during burn Jita. At least that was midly entertaining. This... Not so much.
PS there might have been some bumping involved. Hopefully that doesn't give me away. "Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby". If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down. |
Jim Era
7469
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Posted - 2013.08.18 16:52:00 -
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who mines ice? vled is where its at.
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Moneta Curran
Lunar Industries Ltd
142
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Posted - 2013.08.18 17:03:00 -
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I thought it was starting after down-time today.. so you could be jumping the gun with that assessment.
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I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
566
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Posted - 2013.08.18 17:15:00 -
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Hey OP... instead of whining because people aren't killing them, you grow some balls and you and your friends do the killing. Or aren't you man enough? *removed inappropriate signature* - CCP Eterne |
Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
1772
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Posted - 2013.08.18 17:18:00 -
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I Love Boobies wrote:Hey OP... instead of whining because people aren't killing them, you grow some balls and you and your friends do the killing. Or aren't you man enough?
Because suicide ganking is manly. Suicide ganking is like, the lowest form of PvP. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
36469
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Posted - 2013.08.18 17:19:00 -
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Moneta Curran wrote:I thought it was starting until after down-time today.. so you could be jumping the gun with that assessment.
Make of this what you will: "Caldari highsec for an ice interdiction beginning on or about August 18 and running for a month, give or take." http://themittani.com/news/cfc-announces-caldari-ice-interdiction
"On or about" kinda leaves things wide open. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4185
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Posted - 2013.08.18 17:42:00 -
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Hot GANKING action. See blasters overheat, EVE is real. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
723
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Posted - 2013.08.18 17:54:00 -
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Captain Tardbar wrote:So I had eyes on a Caldari Ice belt last night... Prime Time too.
Everyone is minding their own business for a an hour or two and then I finally see 4 catalysts pop a Mack. This is actually not that unsual for the system.
As my friends quickly snag all the loot, we wait for more of a show to happen.
Then a covertor shows up in the belt and for the rest of the night (probaly 2 hours) it mines away with impunity.
We were waiting for them to get concord to show up somewhere else by using an Ibis to pull them away, but sadly no one did anything for the rest of the night even after another belt spawned.
There were plenty of retreivers and mack shooting their lasers at the Ice roids.
Some friends in the belt (AKA Those who were in the category of caution) were using Skiffs with 75K EPH getting boosts with their bulk head tanked Orcas sitting off 0m from the a nearby station so they could quickly warp to it and dump there loads.
I saw a few Skiffs have the balls to bring out an indy and can mining yet no one was molesting them.
So this whole Ice Belt mining doesn't really seem to be stopping the flow of Ice.
Plenty of people still ice mining in non-skiffs and there was 1 gank for about 4 hours of watching.
So I can only assume the rise in Ice prices has something to do with market speculation because even though the belts may not have bot balls (which I think is maybe the nicest thing about this) but the belts are still being mined out and the ice is still flowing.
Which is just making the ice miners rich with the current prices. Whooptie doo.
You understand that people are more about talk than action right? And really, the talk was about manipulating the price of ice products to make a profit, nothing more.
I too am excited about trading playability for more lag and shiny pictures.....:( Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
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Proletariat Tingtango
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
568
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Posted - 2013.08.18 18:07:00 -
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Yep, the interdiction was all talk and bluster and no action, continue mining safely folks. Don't worry about fitting extra tank you won't need it. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4185
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Posted - 2013.08.18 18:08:00 -
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Proletariat Tingtango wrote:Yep, the interdiction was all talk and bluster and no action, continue mining safely folks. Don't worry about fitting extra tank you won't need it. Max yield again. Might want those deadspace shield boosters for the rats, you know ~ There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Leigh Akiga
State War Academy Caldari State
86
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Posted - 2013.08.18 18:33:00 -
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I heard there are freighters dying in the ice belts and the carnage is ramping up |
baltec1
Bat Country
7597
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Posted - 2013.08.18 18:41:00 -
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Leigh Akiga wrote:I heard there are freighters dying in the ice belts and the carnage is ramping up
My god its full of ice. |
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Nedisu
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
28
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Posted - 2013.08.18 21:14:00 -
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The belts are empty of naught but defenders, hope has fled |
Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
433
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Posted - 2013.08.18 21:24:00 -
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Captain Tardbar wrote: No ganker worth his salt wants to sit in a system wait 4 hours until a belt spawns.
I really want to say "diddums", but I've got a lot of Caldari fuel blocks in storage.
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Zappity
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
285
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Posted - 2013.08.18 21:42:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:I Love Boobies wrote:Hey OP... instead of whining because people aren't killing them, you grow some balls and you and your friends do the killing. Or aren't you man enough? Because suicide ganking is manly. Suicide ganking is like, the lowest form of PvP.
Lowest? Ha, gate camp says hi. Hooray, I'm l33t! -á(Kil2: "The higher their ship losses...the better they're going to be.") |
Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
239
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Posted - 2013.08.18 22:40:00 -
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Zappity wrote:Arduemont wrote:I Love Boobies wrote:Hey OP... instead of whining because people aren't killing them, you grow some balls and you and your friends do the killing. Or aren't you man enough? Because suicide ganking is manly. Suicide ganking is like, the lowest form of PvP. Lowest? Ha, gate camp says hi.
Point to you |
Felicity Love
Whore and Peace
813
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Posted - 2013.08.18 22:40:00 -
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Leigh Akiga wrote:I heard there are freighters dying in the ice belts and the carnage is ramping up
... waits for the best tears about gankers just biding their time until any given anom is almost mined out and then hitting freighters when they are most likely to be carrying 200x more ice than any Mack or Ret.
Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS SpaceMonkey's Alliance
456
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Posted - 2013.08.18 23:07:00 -
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Captain Tardbar wrote:So I had eyes on a Caldari Ice belt last night... Prime Time too. The interdiction only started officially today. What you have been seeing is just some individuals jumping the gun.
Check the killboards, you'll see more than a few orcas popping up on there, and more exhumers and barges than I can be bothered to count.
Also, not every belt will be hit at the same time. Obviously covering 100% of belts would not be possible, but there are definitely enough already going down to make a dent. The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Oppan Ganknam Style
651
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Posted - 2013.08.19 01:01:00 -
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Makes a lot of sense to start 6-12 hours late. Let the prey be lulled into a false sense of security, then dispose of them all once they come out to AFK mine again. Miner euthanization expert. An enemy is just a friend that you stab in the front. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. |
Leigh Akiga
State War Academy Caldari State
87
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Posted - 2013.08.19 01:31:00 -
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Leigh Akiga wrote:buy my topes
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Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
221
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Posted - 2013.08.19 01:33:00 -
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You're assuming that ice is actually moving at the increased prices. No trade volume = no profit. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2027
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Posted - 2013.08.19 01:42:00 -
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Just fought in a war, I'm in chill mode at the moment. Please forgive me for not providing enough content for you as you warp from mission to mission. |
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