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Philpip
T.R.I.A.D
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Posted - 2013.08.21 06:02:00 -
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I'm quoting dotlan here so would like confirmation that the Minmatar Republic held Sahtogas between 2nd Feb 2010 and 9th April 2010?
In fact, if it is not too much trouble, could we have the names and dates of the 5 longest held systems in both warzones?
Thanks in advance. |
Ovv Topik
Pander McLegion
475
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Posted - 2013.08.21 20:47:00 -
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I bet on the Minmatar side its 'Lulm'. True facts: The Tarzier survives in the forest by disguising itself as a teddybear having a colonoscopy. |
kraiklyn Asatru
T.R.I.A.D
407
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Posted - 2013.08.21 22:13:00 -
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Philpip wrote:This got me thinking, could we have the names and dates of the 5 longest held systems in both warzones?
Thanks in advance.
lol philpip don't think they'll bite
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Philpip
T.R.I.A.D
82
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Posted - 2013.08.22 06:17:00 -
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Why not? All I am asking for is a simple bit of information.
Dotlan has it going back as far as 2008, was that the start of FW? |
Lugia3
Pirates Incorporated
542
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Posted - 2013.08.22 09:43:00 -
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Came expecting tears, left disappointing. Yarr |
Deacon Abox
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2013.08.22 21:44:00 -
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Well, in the Cal/Gal warzone probably Nenna or Nis. They've been Gallente held since I joined over a year and half ago.
edit - and in that time anything Caldari held had at least a 26 hour hiccup. |
Andre Vauban
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
124
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Posted - 2013.08.23 02:50:00 -
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Dotlan has the stats if you look. Nisuwa has been Gallente since 2011-11-25. Nennamaila since 2011-11-30. You have to manually look at each system though, so unless somebody has direct access to the dotlan db, has entirely too much time to manually check every system, or thinks a system has been held longer, Nisuwa wins.
(ignore the 2013-02-22 data, something screwed up the API that day as its not possible to flip and then reflip in a few hours in the same day) http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/Nennamaila/events http://evemaps.dotlan.net/systemNisuwa//events QCATS is recruiting: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=146180 |
cearaen
Black Dragon Fighting Society The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2013.08.23 03:52:00 -
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Andre Vauban wrote:Dotlan has the stats if you look. Nisuwa has been Gallente since 2011-11-25. Nennamaila since 2011-11-30. You have to manually look at each system though, so unless somebody has direct access to the dotlan db, has entirely too much time to manually check every system, or thinks a system has been held longer, Nisuwa wins. (ignore the 2013-02-22 data, something screwed up the API that day as its not possible to flip and then reflip in a few hours in the same day) http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/Nennamaila/eventshttp://evemaps.dotlan.net/systemNisuwa//events
Sahtogas wins!
Maybe - I can't be arsed to confirm it all.
Anyway IMO Sahtogas is definitely the best fortress in fw having been the last hold out in so many near extinction brushes for the amarr. No other system competes. |
Sean Parisi
Fugutive Task Force A T O N E M E N T
337
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Posted - 2013.08.23 05:34:00 -
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Jita #1 Longest Held System - Ever. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
3098
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Posted - 2013.08.23 05:59:00 -
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Huola has been in Minmatar hands for about... 2 years now? Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
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Karl Planck
Heretic Army Heretic Initiative
338
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Posted - 2013.08.23 14:08:00 -
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cearaen wrote:[
Sahtogas wins!
Maybe - I can't be arsed to confirm it all.
Anyway IMO Sahtogas is definitely the best fortress in fw having been the last hold out in so many near extinction brushes for the amarr. No other system competes.
Ummmm, Siside/Egg?
Proud CEO of Heretic Army and loyal servent to Mother Amamake. COME AT ME BRO! Forums: http://forum.heretic-army.biz/index.php-á Killboard: http://kb.heretic-army.biz/ Follow me on twitter @KarlPlanck |
Pannax Ni
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
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Posted - 2013.08.23 14:37:00 -
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Karl Planck wrote:
Ummmm, Siside/Egg?
Egg is so strongly defended, the shitmatar have never completed a single plex in the system. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
3103
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Posted - 2013.08.23 15:37:00 -
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Pannax Ni wrote:Karl Planck wrote:
Ummmm, Siside/Egg?
Egg is so strongly defended, the shitmatar have never completed a single plex in the system. I must admit... that made me chuckle. Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Zarnak Wulf
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
1287
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Posted - 2013.08.24 19:16:00 -
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Sahtogas was at 64% when I logged off today so it isn't looking too good. Around 150 in Amarr militia and 230 in Minmatar at Saturday prime time. It is good to see that the year long FW changes brought SO many new pilots in. |
Perkin Warbeck
Black Watch Guard Brothers of Tangra
151
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Posted - 2013.08.24 23:00:00 -
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64%. Ouch.
I couldn't tell you how long Sahtogas has been in Amarr hands but it will be a shame to see it fall. The last defence frazzled a whole lot of people who traditionally lived in Sahtogas. Black Watch Guard have left the area and I don't know if Amarrian Vengeance are still active so I'm not sure how long it will hold out this time. |
Andre Vauban
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
124
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Posted - 2013.08.25 00:50:00 -
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I looked up Sahtogas, it has been Amarr since 4-9-2010. QCATS is recruiting: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=146180 |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
1950
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Posted - 2013.08.25 21:22:00 -
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huola is probably the minmatar version of sahtogas. I think it fell short before the inferno expansion and was never conquered back. eve style bounties (done) dust boarding parties imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW |
Philpip
T.R.I.A.D
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Posted - 2013.08.25 21:53:00 -
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Perkin Warbeck wrote:64%. Ouch.
I couldn't tell you how long Sahtogas has been in Amarr hands but it will be a shame to see it fall. The last defence frazzled a whole lot of people who traditionally lived in Sahtogas. Black Watch Guard have left the area and I don't know if Amarrian Vengeance are still active so I'm not sure how long it will hold out this time.
You've hit upon what I see as the hole in CCP's plans for FW, that the people who would take FW to the next level are burning themselves out trying to counter the people exploiting the weakness in the mechanics.
Here is to crossed fingers that they hurry up and accept it is broken.
Slightly off my own topic, but does anyone have a rough idea on how player numbers in FW have varied before and after the last 'break FW' patch? |
Zarnak Wulf
In Exile. Imperial Outlaws.
1287
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Posted - 2013.08.25 23:24:00 -
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Summer 2012 was the nadir for Amarr militia. At one point I logged on and only saw 38 peeps in the militia channel. After the October (?) emergency patch the numbers climbed dramatically. 200+ was normal. Recently the numbers are 100-150.
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Robur Carolinum
Progressive State State Section 9
11
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Posted - 2013.08.26 09:57:00 -
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Vlillirier has been Gallente since 16/12/2009 according to Dotlan. |
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Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch OLD MAN GANG
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Posted - 2013.08.26 12:35:00 -
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it does not matter much which system has been longenst held because CCP ****** up things several times and decided/ caused that owners should change.
One of the longest conquered systems was back in times Ladistier until exPERVS players decided they do not want to hold it anymore. Nisuwa has been strong hold for gallente some times.
Basically i would not count systems that originally belong to some faction because those are much easier to hold and retake than conquered ones. |
Murdoch Luther
Biohazard. WINMATAR.
0
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Posted - 2013.08.26 14:38:00 -
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For anyone who has not noticed, Sahtogas is now in Minmatar hands :). It was taken with very little resistance in the US tz. |
Aslon Seridith
Biohazard. WINMATAR.
85
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Posted - 2013.08.26 15:04:00 -
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So much for this 'fortress' sahtogas
It got plexed up in 2 days. Taken straight after it. I hear WINMATAR? :)
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Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
269
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Posted - 2013.08.26 15:14:00 -
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Nah, you're all so terrible we let you have it. Didn't need that sahtogas anyway.
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Plato Forko
Radical Astronauts Plundering Eve
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Posted - 2013.08.26 18:31:00 -
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Sahtogas has never been anything like a fortress since I've been there. The only reason it was unflippable was because corps like AVNG and KOZA actively patrolled and harassed, even in poorly translated Russian, any Minmatar that thought they could just casually farm up the contest rate. The events of last night just highlighted the sorry state of Amarr militia. Only three or four small corps represented, all of us lacking the will to accept heavy losses knowing no backup was coming. ILAW came at least but they were the only ones and it wasn't enough.
I guess the impact of Fweddit leaving never resonated as strongly within the militia as it should have. We're basically down to just small corps skirmishing and relying entirely on outside income because we really can't raise hundreds of millions of ISK in LP daily like the Minmatar can. To be frank, a lot of good pilots aren't just leaving FW, they're leaving the game altogether because of various grievances with the mechanics, the most pressing of which is the borked LP payout scheme (i.e. more LP for kiting a button than for earning a kill).
In the end, there were no winners yesterday. Sorry to speak on your behalf, WINMATAR, but there could only be one reason to show up for a hub bash with a combat doctrine. I know at least R.A.P.E. corporation threw most of our remaining ISK (earned with alts outside of the warzone, ofc) into an attempt to supply a strong combat fleet but our allied forces were few and bitter. It's a sorry state when we can't raise a decent combat fleet even on a weekend at the end of summer.
Maybe farmers will come and wrestle back some warzone control for Amarr, but the status quo outright sucks right now. Minmatar will have to settle for fighting SC and PL, and Amarr militia will likely continue to fall apart because we certainly don't have the will to keep farming plex for a pittance (because it's the only way to earn in FW, thanks CCP). |
kraiklyn Asatru
T.R.I.A.D
407
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Posted - 2013.08.26 20:23:00 -
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Seems Eszur has never been flipped. |
Drax Concrilla
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
20
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Posted - 2013.08.26 21:03:00 -
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It would also appear Sirekur has never been flipped either, according to Dotlan. |
Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
269
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Posted - 2013.08.26 22:53:00 -
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kraiklyn Asatru wrote:Seems Eszur has never been flipped.
Thats because you are all bad and won't come to sis and beat us... 1 jump away. I'd have figured you'd have flipped it by now.....
GAME ON BITCHES
*edit* see that look in my eyes in my super serious picture post of my avatar... thats me being super serious.... |
kraiklyn Asatru
T.R.I.A.D
408
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Posted - 2013.08.27 09:06:00 -
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We refuse to recognize the existence of the Siseide-Eszur gate.
Edit: weren't you in front for a bit? Not interested in null I take? |
Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
10
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Posted - 2013.08.27 11:52:00 -
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kraiklyn Asatru wrote:Seems Eszur has never been flipped.
Probably because nobody cares about Eszur/T.R.I.A.D.
I'm sorry Resprox don't hate me, I love you.
There is sarcasm in one of these three sentences, and if you find it, I'll be impressed. |
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