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Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
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Posted - 2013.08.27 12:15:00 -
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kraiklyn Asatru wrote:We refuse to recognize the existence of the Siseide-Eszur gate.
Edit: weren't you in front for a bit? Not interested in null I take?
Not really no but I didn't leave front for that. OF are great old mates, my first alliance and ever since then I've always had a soft spot for them.
So last night in my drunken rampage across the stars I was **** talking up local.... somewhere near sahtogas. I engaged a nado pilot in my trusty slicer and while getting dizzy nibbling his shields off waiting for his mates to turn up a minmatar Biohazard guy joined me in **** talking. Turns out sis is on the cards according to his local splurging (although my splurging was worse in fairness)! OMFG WHO KNEW THIS!!!!!!!
Anyway I had to bail from the nado as it got close to armour, he called in talwar buddy and I was like DAMN YOU LML SPEWING FRIGATE DEATH MACHINE.
True story!
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David Devant
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
111
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Posted - 2013.08.27 12:32:00 -
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How things are right now the militia could take any system at will. If you don't believe this call a system and I'll prove you wrong.
wp bio |
Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
11
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Posted - 2013.08.27 12:41:00 -
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David Devant wrote:How things are right now the militia could take any system at will. If you don't believe this call a system and I'll prove you wrong.
wp bio
And this is something to boast about....why? Or is this your way of saying FW is flawed? |
David Devant
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
111
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Posted - 2013.08.27 13:22:00 -
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A bit of both. FW is flawed. But you'd be a fool to think that the Minnie/Amarr theatre is the way it is because of economics. Your militia (certainly in the EU) is presently a dead loss, that's not because of farmers it's because of a lack of organisation and leadership.
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Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
270
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Posted - 2013.08.27 13:33:00 -
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David Devant wrote:A bit of both. FW is flawed. But you'd be a fool to think that the Minnie/Amarr theatre is the way it is because of economics. Your militia (certainly in the EU) is presently a dead loss, that's not because of farmers it's because of a lack of organisation and leadership.
In fairness I can't disagree with the bolded bit, minmatar militia are all still terrible though [insert thinly veiled reason why here].
On a side note your earlier post suggests that if I call a system you shall have it conquered in the name of the mighty minmatar. AWESOME. I shall get the dartboard ready so I can randomly pick one of the remaining amarr systems to be OMFGROFLstomped (which in an odd twist of fate is the name of corp in minmatar fw!)
Anyway, for what I can do I'll see if I can rustle up some kind of fight in the EU TZ. I think it's going to take some prodding and some pretty epic small gang **** to inspire everyone first mind you :P
TALLY - HO
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Perkin Warbeck
Black Watch Guard Brothers of Tangra
151
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Posted - 2013.08.27 13:35:00 -
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David Devant wrote:A bit of both. FW is flawed. But you'd be a fool to think that the Minnie/Amarr theatre is the way it is because of economics. Your militia (certainly in the EU) is presently a dead loss, that's not because of farmers it's because of a lack of organisation and leadership.
It all went downhill after we kicked you out of Arzad (cough, cough). I vote for Christine and Zarnak to reforge the Anarr militia and lead it to glorious new heights. I missed you guys. |
Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
270
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Posted - 2013.08.27 13:43:00 -
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Perkin Warbeck wrote:David Devant wrote:A bit of both. FW is flawed. But you'd be a fool to think that the Minnie/Amarr theatre is the way it is because of economics. Your militia (certainly in the EU) is presently a dead loss, that's not because of farmers it's because of a lack of organisation and leadership.
It all went downhill after we kicked you out of Arzad (cough, cough). I vote for Christine and Zarnak to reforge the Anarr militia and lead it to glorious new heights. I missed you guys.
/wipes away tear
I MISS YOU TOO PERKIN.
Serious note though yeah, I'll see what I can rustle up. Pretty tough task but someone's got to give it a go and at the very least it'll be a damn fine laugh trying. May even inspire some less ******** people than me to take up some reigns :D
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Lamya Fox
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
8
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Posted - 2013.08.27 15:19:00 -
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I seriously contemplated resubbing my Main just to post this.
But Meh.....We took ourzad while they lived in it. We figured that was our main goal in EVE. We won EVE when we pushed back the last minnie push from three Amarr systems to the fall of Arzad in one months time, The sight of IO carriers gtfo'ing from Arzad undock was all the endgame anyone at Amarr could have asked for.
So ya go ahead and pat yourselves on the back for taking Saht with no one defending it. We all know exactly when push comes to shove who gets pushed and who gets shoved.
AVNG. |
Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
270
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Posted - 2013.08.27 15:32:00 -
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Lamya Fox wrote:I seriously contemplated resubbing my Main just to post this.
But Meh.....We took ourzad while they lived in it. We figured that was our main goal in EVE. We won EVE when we pushed back the last minnie push from three Amarr systems to the fall of Arzad in one months time, The sight of IO carriers gtfo'ing from Arzad undock was all the endgame anyone at Amarr could have asked for.
So ya go ahead and pat yourselves on the back for taking Saht with no one defending it. We all know exactly when push comes to shove who gets pushed and who gets shoved.
AVNG.
OOOOooh that's why everyone gone!
Makes sense, old school / new school and all that. Hope you guys are having fun whatever you're doing :) |
Aslon Seridith
Biohazard. WINMATAR.
85
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Posted - 2013.08.27 16:22:00 -
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Lamya Fox wrote:I seriously contemplated resubbing my Main just to post this. So ya go ahead and pat yourselves on the back for taking Saht with no one defending it. We all know exactly when push comes to shove who gets pushed and who gets shoved. AVNG.
Really?
http://biohazardcorp.com/kb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=8420
That's all what there is left of the amarr rightnow, the rest became forum warriors I see here.
GòöGòùGòæGòæ GòöGòùGòæGòæGòª Gòª GòæGòæGòáGòú GòÜGòùGòáGòúGòæ Gòæ GòÜGò¥Gò¬Gòæ GòÜGò¥Gò¬GòæGò¬ pïí it's ASLON!! Want to join me? www.biohazardcorp.com |
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Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
272
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Posted - 2013.08.27 17:22:00 -
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Aslon Seridith wrote:Lamya Fox wrote:I seriously contemplated resubbing my Main just to post this. So ya go ahead and pat yourselves on the back for taking Saht with no one defending it. We all know exactly when push comes to shove who gets pushed and who gets shoved. AVNG. Really? http://biohazardcorp.com/kb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=8420That's all what there is left of the amarr rightnow, the rest became forum warriors I notice here. The organization amongst the minmatar corps/alliances proves once again... it's simply better ..
Ah I'm only forum warrioring (is that even a word) in breaks at work. In eve mostly I blow you all up, or sometimes I blow up. but to be fair mostly it's minnys blowing up. I'm only recently back though so you never no, this time I may get my arse handed to me over and over by you winmatar blokeys and you'll have shown me how wrong I am and I will be full of shame and probably commit in game suicide.
Or not...
What you have successfully done is beaten an enemy that didn't even turn up.
/Slow clap
Welcome to modern FW. Where the greatest forces never get to actually fight because the other side is burned out. Where the **** talking is now king and we are all about as eve relevant as a bears fart in the woods.
Anyway, less talk more pew I guess. These forum banters are fun and all but all that ends up happening is people splurging bollocks and big propaganda wars. I'm sure when I stand over your alliances smouldering wreck the excuse will be 'yeah but we didn't turn up' too :D
*disclaimer, I may or may not actually stand over your alliances smouldering corpse but in my head it sounded cool (and said in that deep gruff movie trailer voice it was pretty awesome...).
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Lamya Fox
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
9
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Posted - 2013.08.27 18:48:00 -
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Aslon Seridith wrote:Lamya Fox wrote:I seriously contemplated resubbing my Main just to post this. So ya go ahead and pat yourselves on the back for taking Saht with no one defending it. We all know exactly when push comes to shove who gets pushed and who gets shoved. AVNG. Really? http://biohazardcorp.com/kb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=8420That's all what there is left of the amarr rightnow, the rest became forum warriors I notice here. The organization amongst the minmatar corps/alliances proves once again... it's simply better ..
son........sit down.......let me show you what you would be up against IF AVNG gave a damn about Sahtogas anymore.
By the Way Arzad fell four weeks after that 'siege'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaV5nrjV2KA
Oh and less I forget the mandatory remeber the Dalamo Vid......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZsHwOrmq9A
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Aslon Seridith
Biohazard. WINMATAR.
85
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Posted - 2013.08.27 19:41:00 -
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AVNG killed 38 'ships' in August. according to eve-kill. Let me sit down and laugh lol
GòöGòùGòæGòæ GòöGòùGòæGòæGòª Gòª GòæGòæGòáGòú GòÜGòùGòáGòúGòæ Gòæ GòÜGò¥Gò¬Gòæ GòÜGò¥Gò¬GòæGò¬ pïí it's ASLON!! Want to join me? www.biohazardcorp.com |
Lamya Fox
Amarrian Vengeance Team Amarrica
9
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Posted - 2013.08.27 19:43:00 -
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/me facepalms |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2471
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Posted - 2013.08.27 20:47:00 -
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Can I join the circlejerk with Sirekur? It's never even been vulnerable, even though it had a few instances it had a close brush with 90%+ contested.
Rifterlings is the best Minmatar corp like you fools have no idea. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
274
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Posted - 2013.08.27 23:08:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:Can I join the circlejerk with Sirekur? It's never even been vulnerable, even though it had a few instances it had a close brush with 90%+ contested.
Rifterlings is the best Minmatar corp like you fools have no idea.
Is that like being the best turd in the toilet?
I jest! actually most rifterlings I meet when doing solo/small gang stuff are pretty cool.
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Flyinghotpocket
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
165
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Posted - 2013.08.27 23:57:00 -
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Aslon Seridith wrote:AVNG killed 38 'ships' in August. according to eve-kill. Let me sit down and laugh lol
let me sit you down and reiterate. IF AVNG gave a ****. or any amarr fw corp for that matter. congrats on gettin arzad with zero resistance |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1547
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Posted - 2013.08.28 01:10:00 -
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Flyinghotpocket Minmatar? Sayeth whaaaaa??? |
Flyinghotpocket
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
165
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Posted - 2013.08.28 01:35:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Flyinghotpocket Minmatar? Sayeth whaaaaa??? npc corp while i extract out of sahtogas. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2471
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Posted - 2013.08.28 16:31:00 -
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Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:Is that like being the best turd in the toilet? Pretty much.
Wait no, I meant to say...
THE SIREKUR FORTRESS OF SOLITUDE SHALL NEVER FALL, FEEBLE SLAVERS! Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - lowsec pirate operation, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
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cearaen
Black Dragon Fighting Society The Devil's Tattoo
9
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Posted - 2013.08.28 17:21:00 -
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David Devant wrote:A bit of both. FW is flawed. But you'd be a fool to think that the Minnie/Amarr theatre is the way it is because of economics. Your militia (certainly in the EU) is presently a dead loss, that's not because of farmers it's because of a lack of organisation and leadership.
Lead them to what? Massive plex farming expeditions?
The number of people that care was never high, and keeps dropping.
The current sov mechanics do seem to suit the minmatar more than the amarr. |
Pinky Feldman
NO MOAR TEARS I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
573
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Posted - 2013.08.28 21:13:00 -
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I haven't really paid much attention to FW stuff in the past 3-4 months, but I heard that the Minnies finally took Sahtogas so I wanted to say congratulations.
The moar you cry the less you pee |
kraiklyn Asatru
T.R.I.A.D
409
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Posted - 2013.08.28 21:17:00 -
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We miss you... |
Pinky Feldman
NO MOAR TEARS I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
573
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Posted - 2013.08.28 22:04:00 -
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David Devant wrote:A bit of both. FW is flawed. But you'd be a fool to think that the Minnie/Amarr theatre is the way it is because of economics. Your militia (certainly in the EU) is presently a dead loss, that's not because of farmers it's because of a lack of organisation and leadership.
The minnie/amarr warzone is a direct result of economics, but not in the way that everyone assumes it is regarding farmers deciding who is winning, although you can very clearly tell when farmers have switched. You and I both know the level of organization certain things take and raw impact that groups can have regardless of farmers, but the farmer element combined with diagonal plexing still heavily obsfucates a lot of the public perception regarding the impact groups on each side have and the FW image to the greater EVE community in regards to how much impact each individual group actually has.
The relevance of your feature and how groups outside of your feature view it heavily impacts the number and kinds of new players that keep feeding in as old guard burns out or wants to try new things. If a new group joins and leaves after a few weeks because they become disenchanted with farmers from a diagonal militia, regardless of whose side it's on, thats a net loss for FW. Likewise, a lot of the external dialogue I hear from the non-FW community is "so and so is losing, should we join them?" usually replied with "nah, its all farmers, it'll flip back soon enough." Even something like "Amarr/Min just took fortress Arzad/Sahtogas" often gets replied with "who cares about FW, its all farmers."
Don't get me wrong, there are still tons of kills happening. I'm not declaring FW dead by any means. Smaller ships mean you can lose frigates until you run out rather than maybe a BC and couple cruisers, but I can't help but feel that our warzone as a whole is much more carebear than it used to be, with fewer opportunities for FCs to build up the kind of experience to get back up to the level it was when our groups were going at each other full force. The guys that joined before and during Inferno had a very different starting point and pre-existing experience they had built up under the old system. Whereas, people starting in FW now will find a slower path to build up to that same level of experience. Just because things run on a cycle doesn't guarantee the peaks are the same. I suppose time will tell.
At the very least, i'm glad I joined when I did. As much as the tendency was to look down on the other side, we sure did have some great fights against each other didn't we?
The moar you cry the less you pee |
Perkin Warbeck
Black Watch Guard Brothers of Tangra
151
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Posted - 2013.08.28 23:30:00 -
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Pinky Feldman wrote:David Devant wrote:A bit of both. FW is flawed. But you'd be a fool to think that the Minnie/Amarr theatre is the way it is because of economics. Your militia (certainly in the EU) is presently a dead loss, that's not because of farmers it's because of a lack of organisation and leadership.
As much as the tendency was to look down on the other side, we sure did have some great fights against each other didn't we?
Oh my god now you've done it! In before rage threads about links, blobs, stabs, cloaks.... I certainly enjoyed being consistently welped and agree totally with your point about people joining FW now. I'm glad I joined when I did. |
Trinkets friend
Rules of Acquisition Acquisition Of Empire
1129
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Posted - 2013.08.29 23:44:00 -
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perkin Warbeck....in Brothers of Terrible? What has the world come to? YOLO is the Carpe Diem of Gen Y http://www.localectomy.blogspot.com.au
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1550
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Posted - 2013.08.30 00:18:00 -
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cearaen wrote:The current sov mechanics do seem to suit the minmatar more than the amarr. Yeah that's it. Mechanics. |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
538
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Posted - 2013.08.30 00:34:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:cearaen wrote:The current sov mechanics do seem to suit the minmatar more than the amarr. Yeah that's it. Mechanics.
Here we go again..... If you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me. Now don't judge or question. You are broken now, but faith can heal you. Just do everything I tell you to do. (Opiate - Tool) |
Perkin Warbeck
Black Watch Guard Brothers of Tangra
151
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Posted - 2013.08.30 03:44:00 -
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Trinkets friend wrote:perkin Warbeck....in Brothers of Terrible? What has the world come to?
Well, you know, I farm inanimate objects for isk and dock up whenever there is a war target or neutral in local. Its what I imagine being in the Minmatar militia is like
I think my experience is common to many people who have left or or thinking of leaving FW.
I always cared about sovereignty. Its what attracted me to FW as a two week old toon. That semi-roleplay aspect of us versus them wrestling for control of the warzone. So I always defended Amarr systems such as Sahtogas on principle as well as having fights (and this was in the days when defensive plexing didn't reward you with LP).
With the influx of farmers after Inferno you could still get good fights, like we did in Metro when we were fighting Ushra or you guys in Soft Angels, but more and more I found you had to grind out the sovereignty to defend your 'home' system. So you would log in and have to plex for an hour or so that Sahtogas and surrounds didn't get up too high before the EU and US timezones plexed it up again.
After we defended Sahtogas a second time and took Arzad, the AU timezone, I can't really speak for others, became pretty dead. I'd log in and find no fights except for the odd pirate and instead sit in plexes for a couple of hours trying and failing to reduce the damage done in other timezones, Quite simply it wasn't fun anymore. I started logging in less and when I did I rarely enjoyed myself. So I joined a new corp who were feeling exactly the same as I was and we all left FW. Now we rent in null and that, apparently, is the new black.
The break has made me realise just how broken FW is. I always was an opponent of the insane LP rewards you got in FW. They were too high and it was inevitable that it would be farmed or gamed. I've no problem with people who don't care about sovereignty or just want to fleet up and enjoy good fights on the Kam/Kourm gate (after all, most Amarr corps no longer even live in low sec and that in itself is a sad indictment of the state of the war zone). But if you do care about sovereignty then the grind is soul destroying.
TL:DR FW is becoming a place where sovereignty is worthless or a place where you drop an alt in both sides to fund your lifestyle elsewhere. That is f*cked.
By the way, good to see you playing and hope you are feeling better |
Trinkets friend
Rules of Acquisition Acquisition Of Empire
1130
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Posted - 2013.08.30 05:54:00 -
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Thanks. I'll be out round your neck of the woods one day. I've got unstarted business with certain large anchorable objects out there. YOLO is the Carpe Diem of Gen Y http://www.localectomy.blogspot.com.au
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