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baltec1
Bat Country
7663
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Posted - 2013.08.23 20:54:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:In over 3 years of Ice Mining I have yet to ever see a Freighter in an Ice Belt.....and I'm not kidding.
We killed six such freighters in the opening days. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
39162
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Posted - 2013.08.23 20:58:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:In over 3 years of Ice Mining I have yet to ever see a Freighter in an Ice Belt.....and I'm not kidding. We killed six such freighters in the opening days.
Unbelievable.
But then out where I am, there are no Rookie systems anywhere even near, and most are somewhat older, established players that know how to do things properly.
That's all I can figure.
edit: This is why I fled the Caldari/Mimatar/near-Gallente nonsense a long time ago. |
E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
270
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Posted - 2013.08.23 21:38:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:E-2C Hawkeye wrote: I am always glad when someone tells me what my own words mean. The number was thrown out there wasnGÇÖt meant to be a specific number but as a arbitray number. It could have just as easily been 50 60 80 or 100.
You forum trolls always want to argue semantics. Please carry on.
1.arGÇóbiGÇótrarGÇóy -ê+ñrbi-îtrer-ô adjective adjective: arbitrary 1.1. based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system. "his mealtimes were entirely arbitrary"
So the number 30 has gone from figurative (it wasn't), to gross excess (it was) and now it's arbitrary (made up on the spot)? Do you even read your own posts? Are you in fact Ace Uoweme's main? or are you genuinely an accidental troll? E-2C Hawkeye wrote: Nope my problem is poeple trying to use phrases like ALL miners are....or ALL miners dont...... or if you tank you wont die. These are false statements.
So it's ok for you to use blatantly false premises, misrepresent quotes, use absolutes and otherwise do exactly what you claim to have a problem with? That smacks of hypocrisy, or Government. You mean like your quote? |
E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
270
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Posted - 2013.08.23 21:42:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:E-2C Hawkeye wrote: Nope my problem is poeple trying to use phrases like ALL miners are....or ALL miners dont...... or if you tank you wont die. These are false statements.
did anyone say that I am sure if I cared enough to dig thru the forums I could find them. If only that where the case. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
743
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Posted - 2013.08.23 23:01:00 -
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Quote:Nope my problem is poeple trying to use phrases like ALL miners are....or ALL miners dont...... or if you tank you wont die. These are false statements.
So... you're all over this thread for the purpose of saving us from "broad brush" statements? Yeah, gonna call trolling on that one, buddy.
Especially since you are throwing a fit about things that no one in this thread has even said. You are literally throwing a tantrum over nothing. If some other thread said one of these apparently grievously offensive statements, go complain at them. You're seriously out of line here. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
12314
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Posted - 2013.08.24 01:27:00 -
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E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:E-2C Hawkeye wrote: I am always glad when someone tells me what my own words mean. The number was thrown out there wasnGÇÖt meant to be a specific number but as a arbitray number. It could have just as easily been 50 60 80 or 100.
You forum trolls always want to argue semantics. Please carry on.
1.arGÇóbiGÇótrarGÇóy -ê+ñrbi-îtrer-ô adjective adjective: arbitrary 1.1. based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system. "his mealtimes were entirely arbitrary"
So the number 30 has gone from figurative (it wasn't), to gross excess (it was) and now it's arbitrary (made up on the spot)? Do you even read your own posts? Are you in fact Ace Uoweme's main? or are you genuinely an accidental troll? E-2C Hawkeye wrote: Nope my problem is poeple trying to use phrases like ALL miners are....or ALL miners dont...... or if you tank you wont die. These are false statements.
So it's ok for you to use blatantly false premises, misrepresent quotes, use absolutes and otherwise do exactly what you claim to have a problem with? That smacks of hypocrisy, or Government. You mean like your quote? How so? What's your beef with my use of your post? Have I used a false premise? misrepresented your post? used absolutes? taken it out of context?
Your pithy one liner explains little.
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |
Gillian Darkstar
WOTED Psych Ward Division Eternal Pretorian Alliance
11
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Posted - 2013.08.24 07:36:00 -
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I totaly can't remember who said it or why but as for miners being like invulnerable I'm totally down with that. I have a little bit of an annoucement to the EVE world, I mine, sometimes. I know i feel somewhat dirty saying it and like not the good kind of dirrty like christina aguilera kind of dirrty whom I'd love to get dirrty with, but the kind of dirty which means I'll be spending like an hour or more in a shower scrubbing all over.
Its just that every now and then my corp like to get together drink various types of booze totally talk **** about all sorts of stuff and occasionally fire off some mining lasers, and with this in mind i totaly ok with miners being invulnerable, but like only when I'm mining. I could totally like post a time table or something like that and during those times people who are miners would be like totally invulnerable. miners could even like pay me to go mining so they could be like safe to mine, and on the other hand ganksters could like pay me not to mine so they can be like gankstering miners.
I totally feel the above idea are of the awesome and need CCPs immediate attention so i can start getting paid, i mean so miners can be safe |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1324
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Posted - 2013.08.24 07:55:00 -
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E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:E-2C Hawkeye wrote: Nope my problem is poeple trying to use phrases like ALL miners are....or ALL miners dont...... or if you tank you wont die. These are false statements.
did anyone say that I am sure if I cared enough to dig thru the forums I could find them. If only that where the case. you care enough to rant about it |
E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
270
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Posted - 2013.08.26 13:16:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:E-2C Hawkeye wrote: Nope my problem is poeple trying to use phrases like ALL miners are....or ALL miners dont...... or if you tank you wont die. These are false statements.
did anyone say that I am sure if I cared enough to dig thru the forums I could find them. If only that where the case. you care enough to rant about it Rant? lol if your hearing ranting while you read anything I post then that is in your own head. I donGÇÖt believe you can hear or feel anything that anyone types except that which you give it.
If anything it would be amusement. I am always amazed at how grown adults act like my 17 year old GǪheck half the time he is more mature then some of the GǣadultsGǥ I see posting.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
12343
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Posted - 2013.08.26 20:40:00 -
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E-2C Hawkeye wrote: If anything it would be amusement. I am always amazed at how grown adults act like my 17 year old GǪheck half the time he is more mature then some of the GǣadultsGǥ I see posting.
Maybe you should ask your 17 year old for some advice on being mature, because you come across as being the younger sibling.
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1329
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Posted - 2013.08.26 20:53:00 -
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E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Rant? lol if your hearing ranting while you read anything I post then that is in your own head. I donGÇÖt believe you can hear or feel anything that anyone types except that which you give it.
If anything it would be amusement. I am always amazed at how grown adults act like my 17 year old GǪheck half the time he is more mature then some of the GǣadultsGǥ I see posting.
~i just complain a lot about issues i don't care about~
~not that i care~ |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
3977
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Posted - 2013.08.26 21:00:00 -
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E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:E-2C Hawkeye wrote: Nope my problem is poeple trying to use phrases like ALL miners are....or ALL miners dont...... or if you tank you wont die. These are false statements.
did anyone say that I am sure if I cared enough to dig thru the forums I could find them. If only that where the case.
There are 7 pages of posts here. You claim that you're posting here because of the alleged use of phrasing that you feel is inaccurate. That you can't find said phrasing indicates something.
Also, if you tank your ship, you are less likely to die. Just like a Freighter full of Tritanium is less likely to be ganked than one full of Thulium. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
271
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Posted - 2013.08.26 21:04:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Rant? lol if your hearing ranting while you read anything I post then that is in your own head. I donGÇÖt believe you can hear or feel anything that anyone types except that which you give it.
If anything it would be amusement. I am always amazed at how grown adults act like my 17 year old GǪheck half the time he is more mature then some of the GǣadultsGǥ I see posting.
~i just complain a lot about issues i don't care about~ ~not that i care~ Yes I noticed that already. |
E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
271
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Posted - 2013.08.26 21:06:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:E-2C Hawkeye wrote: If anything it would be amusement. I am always amazed at how grown adults act like my 17 year old GǪheck half the time he is more mature then some of the GǣadultsGǥ I see posting.
Maybe you should ask your 17 year old for some advice on being mature, because you come across as being their younger sibling. That is from trying to speak on your level so you may understand better. DoesnGÇÖt look like that is working however. Moving forward I will try to dumb it down for you even further in hopes that you may grasp some simpler concepts. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
12344
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Posted - 2013.08.26 21:12:00 -
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E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:E-2C Hawkeye wrote: If anything it would be amusement. I am always amazed at how grown adults act like my 17 year old GǪheck half the time he is more mature then some of the GǣadultsGǥ I see posting.
Maybe you should ask your 17 year old for some advice on being mature, because you come across as being their younger sibling. That is from trying to speak on your level so you may understand better. DoesnGÇÖt look like that is working however. Moving forward I will try to dumb it down for you even further in hopes that you may grasp some simpler concepts. No need to dumb it down on my behalf, I'm more than capable of understanding complex concepts. You on the other hand appear to have problems with even the simpler stuff.
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
40474
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Posted - 2013.08.26 21:20:00 -
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cat fight |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
1329
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Posted - 2013.08.26 21:28:00 -
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maturity: making personal attacks when questioned |
E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
271
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Posted - 2013.08.27 13:27:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:maturity: making personal attacks when questioned
Lol personal attacks? I am merely trying to be helpful and considerate in helping this person open his mind by pointing out that he like a vast majority of forum trolls (yourself included) will usually miss the main point of most topics because the majority of the time you derail thread after thread arguing over inane things that donGÇÖt really matter.
In this specific case it was over an arbitrary number. From a physiological perspective this type of behavior is common place and used to draw attention away from the fact that they donGÇÖt have a good base to counter argue or debate the main topic or point.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
12415
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Posted - 2013.08.27 14:10:00 -
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E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:maturity: making personal attacks when questioned Lol personal attacks? I am merely trying to be helpful and considerate in helping this person open his mind by pointing out that he like a vast majority of forum trolls (yourself included) will usually miss the main point of most topics because the majority of the time you derail thread after thread arguing over inane things that donGÇÖt really matter. Wow, being called a troll by you is ironic, I've rarely seen you post anything remotely constructive, considerate or helpful, please do carry on lying to yourself if it makes you feel better.
Quote:In this specific case it was over an arbitrary number. You mean the arbitrary number that went from figurative to gross excess and then on to arbitrary? If you'd have said arbitrary in the first place then my only quibble would have been the number 30, because saying things "I like the morons that can't get that it doesn't matter what you tank when they bring 30 destroyers.", although true in the literal sense, is spin and misinformation of the worst kind when we're talking about ganking miners. 30 is excessive.
The only scenarios I can think of in ganking that would need 30 destroyers would be an Orca or freighter, and even then it may well be excessive *needs clarification as I'm unsure of the actual amount of destroyers required for those scenarios*
Quote:From a physiological perspective this type of behavior is common place and used to draw attention away from the fact that they donGÇÖt have a good base to counter argue or debate the main topic or point. If you had actually made a valid point relating to the topic, and subtopics, it brought up instead of exaggerating, and hadn't gotten your knickers in a twist when people called you out on it, then maybe, just maybe, you would have got some decent counter arguments and debate.
Before you start blaming others for the responses to your posts, you should try reading them.
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |
Rhes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2013.08.27 14:29:00 -
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E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Lol personal attacks? I am merely trying to be helpful and considerate in helping this person open his mind by pointing out that he like a vast majority of forum trolls (yourself included) will usually miss the main point of most topics because the majority of the time you derail thread after thread arguing over inane things that donGÇÖt really matter.
In this specific case it was over an arbitrary number. From a physiological perspective this type of behavior is common place and used to draw attention away from the fact that they donGÇÖt have a good base to counter argue or debate the main topic or point.
You are a bad poster.
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E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
271
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Posted - 2013.08.27 16:14:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:maturity: making personal attacks when questioned Lol personal attacks? I am merely trying to be helpful and considerate in helping this person open his mind by pointing out that he like a vast majority of forum trolls (yourself included) will usually miss the main point of most topics because the majority of the time you derail thread after thread arguing over inane things that donGÇÖt really matter. Wow, being called a troll by you is ironic, I've rarely seen you post anything remotely constructive, considerate or helpful, please do carry on lying to yourself if it makes you feel better. Quote:In this specific case it was over an arbitrary number. You mean the arbitrary number that went from figurative to gross excess and then on to arbitrary? If you'd have said arbitrary in the first place then my only quibble would have been the number 30, because saying things "I like the morons that can't get that it doesn't matter what you tank when they bring 30 destroyers.", although true in the literal sense, is spin and misinformation of the worst kind when we're talking about ganking miners, which while offtopic is a related subtopic, 30 destroyers is almost a parody. The only scenarios I can think of in ganking that would need 30 destroyers would be an Orca or freighter, and even then it may well be excessive *needs clarification as I'm unsure of the actual amount of destroyers required for these scenarios*Quote:From a physiological perspective this type of behavior is common place and used to draw attention away from the fact that they donGÇÖt have a good base to counter argue or debate the main topic or point. You yourself are guilty of posting crap to draw attention away from the fact that you had no valid point to bring to the discussion, and instantly denigrated anybody that disagreed with you, that smacks of hubris. If, however, you had actually made a valid point relating to the topic, and subtopics, that have been brought up instead of just exaggerating, and hadn't gotten your knickers in a twist when people called you out on it, then maybe, just maybe, you would have got some decent counter arguments and debate. Although I doubt it because you're just a poor sad excuse for a troll. Before you start blaming others for the responses to your posts, you should try reading them. ItGÇÖs ok I can see you still donGÇÖt get it....and probably never will. As you were carry on |
E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
271
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Posted - 2013.08.27 16:16:00 -
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Rhes wrote:E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Lol personal attacks? I am merely trying to be helpful and considerate in helping this person open his mind by pointing out that he like a vast majority of forum trolls (yourself included) will usually miss the main point of most topics because the majority of the time you derail thread after thread arguing over inane things that donGÇÖt really matter. ItGÇÖs ok I can see you still donGÇÖt get....and probably never will. As you were carry on In this specific case it was over an arbitrary number. From a physiological perspective this type of behavior is common place and used to draw attention away from the fact that they donGÇÖt have a good base to counter argue or debate the main topic or point.
You are a bad poster.
Thank you so much. Coming from a goonie that is very complementary of you sir. |
E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
271
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Posted - 2013.08.27 16:24:00 -
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E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:[quote=E-2C Hawkeye][quote=Benny Ohu]maturity: making personal attacks when questioned Quote:In this specific case it was over an arbitrary number. You mean the arbitrary number that went from figurative to gross excess and then on to arbitrary? If you'd have said arbitrary in the first place then my only quibble would have been the number 30, because saying things "I like the morons that can't get that it doesn't matter what you tank when they bring 30 destroyers.", although true in the literal sense, is spin and misinformation of the worst kind when we're talking about ganking miners, which while offtopic is a related subtopic, 30 destroyers is almost a parody. The only scenarios I can think of in ganking that would need 30 destroyers would be an Orca or freighter, and even then it may well be excessive *needs clarification as I'm unsure of the actual amount of destroyers required for these scenarios*
Here is a perfect example of you still being hung up on a number and even after numerous attempts to explain to you that the number didnGÇÖt matter you are still trying to argue over a number that was arbitrary and didnGÇÖt matter or effect the point and was exaggerated to show that it didnGÇÖt matter all the while still missing the main point. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
41036
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Posted - 2013.08.27 16:33:00 -
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E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Rhes wrote:E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Lol personal attacks? I am merely trying to be helpful and considerate in helping this person open his mind by pointing out that he like a vast majority of forum trolls (yourself included) will usually miss the main point of most topics because the majority of the time you derail thread after thread arguing over inane things that donGÇÖt really matter. ItGÇÖs ok I can see you still donGÇÖt get....and probably never will. As you were carry on In this specific case it was over an arbitrary number. From a physiological perspective this type of behavior is common place and used to draw attention away from the fact that they donGÇÖt have a good base to counter argue or debate the main topic or point.
You are a bad poster. Thank you so much. Coming from a goonie that is very complementary of you sir.
The Goon speaks the truth. |
E-2C Hawkeye
State War Academy Caldari State
271
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Posted - 2013.08.27 18:30:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Rhes wrote:E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Lol personal attacks? I am merely trying to be helpful and considerate in helping this person open his mind by pointing out that he like a vast majority of forum trolls (yourself included) will usually miss the main point of most topics because the majority of the time you derail thread after thread arguing over inane things that donGÇÖt really matter. ItGÇÖs ok I can see you still donGÇÖt get....and probably never will. As you were carry on In this specific case it was over an arbitrary number. From a physiological perspective this type of behavior is common place and used to draw attention away from the fact that they donGÇÖt have a good base to counter argue or debate the main topic or point.
You are a bad poster. Thank you so much. Coming from a goonie that is very complementary of you sir. The Goon speaks the truth.
Yes they ALL do. /sarcasm off |
Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
12439
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Posted - 2013.08.27 19:15:00 -
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E-2C Hawkeye wrote: Here is a perfect example of you still being hung up on a number and even after numerous attempts to explain to you that the number didnGÇÖt matter you are still trying to argue over a number that was arbitrary and didnGÇÖt matter or effect the point and was exaggerated to show that it didnGÇÖt matter all the while still missing the main point.
Yes the point, you missed it completely. We know the number was exaggerated to make a point, we're just unsure of what the point was, and whether or not you actually had one in the first place.
The Goon (GrrGäó) is right, you're a terrible poster, even by their standards.
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
757
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Posted - 2013.08.27 22:28:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:E-2C Hawkeye wrote: Here is a perfect example of you still being hung up on a number and even after numerous attempts to explain to you that the number didnGÇÖt matter you are still trying to argue over a number that was arbitrary and didnGÇÖt matter or effect the point and was exaggerated to show that it didnGÇÖt matter all the while still missing the main point.
Yes the point, you missed it completely. We know the number was exaggerated to make a point, we're just unsure of what the point was, and whether or not you actually had one in the first place. The Goon (GrrGäó) is right, you're a terrible poster, even by their standards.
Gotta agree with that, to be honest. Especially since he has spent the last several pages trying to convince us he doesn't really care but we're wrong anyway. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Barron Hammerstrike
RISK Inc.
36
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Posted - 2013.08.30 20:40:00 -
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Alice Saki wrote:Lets Gank the Ganker that is Ganking... While Concord Ganks them.
Gank train? there is no old system anymore |
Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
12764
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Posted - 2013.08.30 20:46:00 -
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Barron Hammerstrike wrote:Alice Saki wrote:Lets Gank the Ganker that is Ganking... While Concord Ganks them. Gank train? Gank'em Style
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
3797
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Posted - 2013.08.30 21:08:00 -
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This **** is still going ? |
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