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Andrei Taganov
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.09 05:13:00 -
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carmelos53 wrote:It's pretty funny to me^ that you guys are all tearing because your Corp gets banned from two CHANNELS...now add the fact that you knew exactly what your Corp mate was doing and didn't mind it but still feel hurt that your corps are... Let's just repeat this statement.... --->channel banned<---
You guys are just a bunch of kids. Maybe some ice cream will cheer slimy worm and his friends up. The actions of your Corp members dictate how the people see the group. If you didn't like the opinions of others hurting your "good name" maybe being dochebags in the first place wasn't the best option.
Please go tell your parents maybe they will care.
Once again, if the Incursion bears don't like the opinions of others hurting their "good name" (by wardecing us and banning us), then maybe they should find another thing to do.
I'm not feeling hurt, I'm feeling rich and smug. It's to the point that we're whatever about killing faction battleships that don't have shiny fits... We're like jaded by the easy ISK, just like you bears are!
~Andrei. |
Moustached Slimy Worm
The Skunkworks
36
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Posted - 2011.11.09 05:57:00 -
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The problem with incursionbears, and actually all carebears, is that they think that they're people in reality they're not. They're essentially NPC's: They exist solely for others' enjoyment and have no identity whatsoever outside of us using them for fun. |
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
22
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Posted - 2011.11.09 06:25:00 -
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carmelos53 wrote:It's pretty funny to me^ that you guys are all tearing because your Corp gets banned from two CHANNELS...now add the fact that you knew exactly what your Corp mate was doing and didn't mind it but still feel hurt that your corps are... Let's just repeat this statement.... --->channel banned<---
You guys are just a bunch of kids. Maybe some ice cream will cheer slimy worm and his friends up. The actions of your Corp members dictate how the people see the group. If you didn't like the opinions of others hurting your "good name" maybe being dochebags in the first place wasn't the best option.
Please go tell your parents maybe they will care.
This is funny because you put emphasis on "channel banned" like it means something. Also, I'm pretty sure you misunderstand the tears coming out of this thread. You may have missed how this story originated and I'm not going to recap for you. Suffice to say, I'm pretty sure The Skunkworks crew and associates are having a blast in this facet of total destruction. I'm quite jealous. |
TheMcNaughty
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.11.09 14:48:00 -
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Moustached Slimy Worm wrote:The problem with incursionbears, and actually all carebears, is that they think that they're people in reality they're not. They're essentially NPC's: They exist solely for others' enjoyment and have no identity whatsoever outside of us using them for fun.
^This. A thousand times over... |
Gazmin VanBurin
Go Petition Blizzard
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Posted - 2011.11.09 14:57:00 -
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carmelos53 wrote:It's pretty funny to me^ that you guys are all tearing because your Corp gets banned from two CHANNELS...now add the fact that you knew exactly what your Corp mate was doing and didn't mind it but still feel hurt that your corps are... Let's just repeat this statement.... --->channel banned<---
I think your misinterpreting an excuse to ruin our good incursioning names and getting amazing kills, for heart filled sorrow.
Trust me, no one in Skunkworks is sad over our faction ship slaughter. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
272
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Posted - 2011.11.09 23:23:00 -
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carmelos53 wrote:It's pretty funny to me^ that you guys are all tearing because your Corp gets banned from two CHANNELS...now add the fact that you knew exactly what your Corp mate was doing and didn't mind it but still feel hurt that your corps are... Let's just repeat this statement.... --->channel banned<---
Carebear doesn't know what tears are.
You paid for a war with the Skunkworks. We're giving you what you paid for. Spin it however you need so that you can feel like a big boy, it was the actions of incursioners that got things to this point.
carmelos53 wrote:The actions of your Corp members dictate how the people see the group.. Because you can judge an entire group of people by the actions of one. That mentality works so well in real life, let's extend it to Eve! |
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.10 00:19:00 -
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Moustached Slimy Worm wrote:The problem with incursionbears, and actually all carebears, is that they think that they're people in reality they're not. They're essentially NPC's: They exist solely for others' enjoyment and have no identity whatsoever outside of us using them for fun. Odd, so what your saying is that your shooting NPC characters? Who is carebear now? If it can't fight back on even terms, its an easy win and no challenge for you, amirite? You cannot loose, therefore you paint yourself with your own logical brush but use the excuse "But it has a PC nametag instead of NPC Gist Saint, therefore it has better value for a pointless argument and I am right your wrong so just die to my guns."
PVP > PVE > NPC when it comes to the food chain and how ships are fit, though sometimes the NPC might win to the PVE but the PVE will never win to the PVP. Its because of different fitting that a PVP ship will always win, incursion fit ships might be able to counter a proper fit PVP ship all you got to do is blowup/off/rimjob the logi ship and it cascade fails from there cause Sansha ships have more DPS then your gang.
Would be awesomely funny if CCP made incursions more risk free like turning them into instances so you couldn't touch the vaulable pinata's you want to bag. The rage and bitter tears that flood the forums is just intoxicating how so many people think its unfair at the amount of isk it prints, when its obviously a good idea.
1. CCP makes incursions in highsec very "risk free" 2. Carebear those wallets into heaven 3. Nobody really wants to sell a plex for 300m 4. ??? 5. PROFIT!!!! Carebears have excess isk to burn, more demand for PLEX, PLEX market shrinks from high demand (Elmo dolls way back come to mind) instead of high volumes low demand dropping the price of plex, sellers are happy they are making better isk themselves from plex cause they don't want to earn it themselves and CCP of all things is seeing more PLEX being bought from their website.
Still cannot figure out why they didn't turn those sanctums back on yet |
Zions Child
Odyssey Inc SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2011.11.10 01:02:00 -
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What the **** is the poster above me talking about? Did you actually think that through? What, is that Soraya person from the God Squad giving lessons in poor posting? |
PlayerName
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2011.11.10 02:48:00 -
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Moustached Slimy Worm wrote:The problem with incursionbears, and actually all carebears, is that they think that they're people in reality they're not. They're essentially NPC's: They exist solely for others' enjoyment and have no identity whatsoever outside of us using them for fun.
Quoted for truth.
Aqriue wrote:Would be awesomely funny if CCP made incursions more risk free like turning them into instances so you couldn't touch the vaulable pinata's you want to bag. The rage and bitter tears that flood the forums is just intoxicating how so many people think its unfair at the amount of isk it prints, when its obviously a good idea.
Not sure if trolling or just stupid. My guess is just stupid.
I have some advice you should heed: It's better to remain silent and appear stupid than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Please try to remember this next time you decide to waste our time (and yours) with such a terrible, incoherent post. |
Moustached Slimy Worm
The Skunkworks
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Posted - 2011.11.10 04:42:00 -
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Gazmin VanBurin wrote:First a short time line
Slimy worm griefed incursions > Skunkworks was banned from incursion channels > Skunkworks unhappy about this > Skunkworks band together to grief incursions > we found it to be extremely easy, lulzy fun > we declare 60bil challenge > we have hit well over 100bil
Now a list of likely reasons individuals in Skunkworks are doing this, from the biggest reason to the smallest.
Its fun! Its funny! Its actually making us a bunch of isk and getting us free ships! We like finding game mechanics not often used Revenge Incursions are ruining EvEGÇÖs market
I hope this helps for future reference.
Slimy worm griefed incursions > Skunkworks was banned from incursion channels >incursion community hires God Squard to dec Skunkworks > Skunkworks unhappy about this > Skunkworks band together to grief incursions > we found it to be extremely easy, lulzy fun > we declare 60bil challenge > we have hit well over 100bil
you forgot that they attacked us :) |
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Rengas
AQUILA INC
5
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Posted - 2011.11.10 06:48:00 -
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The thread that keeps on giving <3 |
disillusional
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.10 07:50:00 -
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Gazmin VanBurin wrote:carmelos53 wrote:It's pretty funny to me^ that you guys are all tearing because your Corp gets banned from two CHANNELS...now add the fact that you knew exactly what your Corp mate was doing and didn't mind it but still feel hurt that your corps are... Let's just repeat this statement.... --->channel banned<---
I think your misinterpreting an excuse to ruin our good incursioning names and getting amazing kills, for heart filled sorrow. Trust me, no one in Skunkworks is sad over our faction ship slaughter.
Quoted for glorious truths |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
880
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Posted - 2011.11.10 08:01:00 -
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This thread is amazing. Never stop messing with the forces of ~elite PvE~ The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
JackBlasta
Genesis Nation Gentlemen's Agreement
2
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Posted - 2011.11.10 09:30:00 -
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The best way to get highsec incursion bear tears is for large entity such as goons to form a large fleet, & go around completing the mom sties in each empire incursion as soon as they appear |
proxwar
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.11.10 11:31:00 -
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http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=4787&tid=1
1-0 to the high sec incursionbears.
Love CCP.
Incursion Logi ganking will be getting that little bit tougher from now on
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Rythm
True Power Team
0
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Posted - 2011.11.10 11:54:00 -
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proxwar wrote:http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=4787&tid=1 1-0 to the high sec incursionbears. Love CCP. Incursion Logi ganking will be getting that little bit tougher from now on Alliance P .... |
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
49
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Posted - 2011.11.10 15:36:00 -
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proxwar wrote:http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=4787&tid=1 1-0 to the high sec incursionbears. Love CCP. Incursion Logi ganking will be getting that little bit tougher from now on
More like incursionbears: 1 and Skunkworks: 120b.
Also, that kinda sucks for us, but we were doing so well that CCP had to change the whole game for the dozen or so of us.
I wonder if this will effect neutral logi all in all. Nice response time, CCP. I would have left it as ~ emergent gameplay~ until incursions had some sort of other balancing factor, but v0v.
Fellow Skunks, I'd like to reiterate that you've done incredibly good work being so awesome that CCP had to weigh you down Harrison Bergeron-style. I'm incredibly proud of what we've done. Now let's go back to the lab and see what other highly clever **** we can do next. |
Ammzi
Imperial Guardians Blazing Angels Alliance
105
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Posted - 2011.11.10 16:07:00 -
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For those who didn't follow the link
Quote:A part of the next client update will feature a change to aggression mechanics in high security space.
To benefit the EVE community at large, a small change has been made to game mechanics regarding criminal flags and how they are inherited in high security space. If a pilot is remote repairing, or otherwise assisting, another pilot who commits a criminal act then the repair module will now disengage. In order to continue repairs the module will need to be restarted and a message will appear warning of the criminal flag and possible consequences.
CCP just took the big nerf hammer and smashed Skunkworks and co. down underground. I am honestly surprised by this quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Khanh'rhh
Sudden Buggery
289
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Posted - 2011.11.10 16:14:00 -
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None of you know the difference between "criminal flagging" and passed on aggression, then?
A while back, CCP made it IMPOSSIBLE to rep someone who was criminally flagged, due to the CONCORDOKKEN greifing in Incursion sites. This ****** up FW and lowsec, since you couldn't rep someone who had a GCC timer (the criminal flag....)
It is now possible to do so again, only now with a warning.
i.e. CCP have fixed the half assed nerf.
What the Skunkworks were doing will still throw up no warning. - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Ammzi
Imperial Guardians Blazing Angels Alliance
105
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Posted - 2011.11.10 16:20:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:None of you know the difference between "criminal flagging" and passed on aggression, then?
A while back, CCP made it IMPOSSIBLE to rep someone who was criminally flagged, due to the CONCORDOKKEN greifing in Incursion sites. This ****** up FW and lowsec, since you couldn't rep someone who had a GCC timer (the criminal flag....)
It is now possible to do so again, only now with a warning.
i.e. CCP have fixed the half assed nerf.
What the Skunkworks were doing will still throw up no warning.
EDIT: unless CCP don't know their own terminology, of course. Lazy patch notes.
you fail so bad ... quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Karah Serrigan
The Hatchery Team Liquid
3
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Posted - 2011.11.10 16:27:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:None of you know the difference between "criminal flagging" and passed on aggression, then?
A while back, CCP made it IMPOSSIBLE to rep someone who was criminally flagged, due to the CONCORDOKKEN greifing in Incursion sites. This ****** up FW and lowsec, since you couldn't rep someone who had a GCC timer (the criminal flag....)
It is now possible to do so again, only now with a warning.
i.e. CCP have fixed the half assed nerf.
What the Skunkworks were doing will still throw up no warning.
EDIT: unless CCP don't know their own terminology, of course. Lazy patch notes. What you mean is GLOBAL criminal flag. l2criminalaggressionsystem. |
Khanh'rhh
Sudden Buggery
289
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Posted - 2011.11.10 16:32:00 -
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This is why I don't :highsec:
Or maybe I just wanted to think it wasn't true?
: / - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Rengas
AQUILA INC
5
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Posted - 2011.11.10 16:42:00 -
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Sincere congratulations for being so successful that CCP had no choice but to nerf you!
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Ammzi
Imperial Guardians Blazing Angels Alliance
107
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Posted - 2011.11.10 16:49:00 -
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Wait, hang on. WAAAIT
Directly from TQ
Quote:CONCORDs automatic safety algorithm embedded in your Large 'Solace' I Remote Bulwark Reconstruction has decided to shut down to avoid involvement with the criminal shenanigans of Marhaba. Manual override is required to resume operations.
I haven't tried with normal aggression yet. quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Lakshata Chawla
Imperial Guardians Blazing Angels Alliance
7
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Posted - 2011.11.10 17:20:00 -
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So people like me that press F1-F4 all at the same time will still get killed XD |
Odemis
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2011.11.10 17:51:00 -
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CCP has trolled you all good this time.. honestly I give it 8/10. Yes.. I did say "you" as in you incursionbears. |
Zowie Powers
Hole in the wall
8
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Posted - 2011.11.10 17:57:00 -
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Rengas wrote:Sincere congratulations for being so successful that CCP had no choice but to nerf you!
+1 I like Lofty. |
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
30
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Posted - 2011.11.10 18:41:00 -
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PlayerName wrote: Not sure if trolling or just stupid. My guess is just stupid.
I have some advice you should heed: It's better to remain silent and appear stupid than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Please try to remember this next time you decide to waste our time (and yours) with such a terrible, incoherent post. Nope, trolling stupid like you who thinks everything needs risk or its unfair. The Did you read this mornings patch? It just got harder to gank logistics by flipping a can and using an alt of yours that needs to be repped so you can warp in and gank it, it gives to the logistic a warning. CONCORD ganking removing insurance as well. At best, all you guys saying there is no risk for highsec incursions will keep on getting pissed off and go shoot the statue in Jita while CCP is seeing what the hell are guys with billions in isk from incurions going to do? Obviously buy PLEX with isk, as the price keeps going up because the supply is so low (where you can set the price you want, instead of keep dropping the price with high competition from market traders as the supply of PLEX gets bigger and demand less so). More plex at higher price, more people buying PLEX from CCP with cash to trade for isk. More cash for CCP, you can see where CCP is going in this direction. Coddle the player base, make them feel secure, more willing to spend cash in CCP's form of micro transaction. |
proxwar
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2011.11.10 18:55:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:Wait, hang on. WAAAIT Directly from TQ Quote:CONCORDs automatic safety algorithm embedded in your Large 'Solace' I Remote Bulwark Reconstruction has decided to shut down to avoid involvement with the criminal shenanigans of Marhaba. Manual override is required to resume operations. I haven't tried with normal aggression yet. edit: Ok, so I had a reaper pick up a can while I was repping him. The repper continued without stop/warning and without transferring aggression. However when I started a second repper I got promped by a warning: Quote:17:04:50 Question Proceeding with this action will aid your target who has enemies present, the activation will be considered an aggression towards your targets enemies. You will be flagged as a criminal towards his enemies for up to 15 minutes from your last aiding activation. Are you sure you want to activate this module on Marhaba? But before I had chosen "yes or no" I had already received the aggro. This is not a nerf, this is a buff to incursion griefers xD __________________ edit2: Trying this with another scenario. My alt canflipped a can and got aggro towards some random pilot. I activated my reps on my alt and I got promped by a warning about aggression, enemies, etc. etc. Meaning pilots who will initiate reps on an aggroed pilot WILL receive a warning! I think what I experienced in the first edit is a bug .... exploitable one in my opinion. ________________ edit3: Ok, tried the same thing again. Reps on shuttle, shuttle can flips and my repper is still running. If I engage any of the other reps I get a warning and NO aggro is transferred! Strange thing that happened ... along the line my logistic got aggro against the pilot it was repping, because the pilot the shuttle had gained aggro against shot the shuttle..... not working as intended? I am very confused how this make sense, but yes. CCP has nerfed incursion griefers. PS: When the pilot shot the shuttle I was repping, reps turned off and I got this warning. Quote:17:38:54 Info CONCORDs automatic safety algorithm embedded in your Large 'Solace' I Remote Bulwark Reconstruction has decided to shut down to avoid involvement with the criminal shenanigans of Mishna Khardula. Manual override is required to resume operations. _______________ edit4: I am starting to get gray hair. A cap transfer was running to the shuttle pilot while he was can flipping. After can flipping it kept running and no aggro was transferred. While trying to engage second cap xfer it gave off warning. After disengaging the cap xfer and then turning on armor repper there was NO warning and aggro was received immediately.
So, breaking it down....
If your reps/transfers cycle is already activated on griefer, and the griefer gets aggression mid cycle it does NOT auto transfer to the logi due to it being already activated. But any mod activated after that time will get the pop up warning?
Did i get that right?
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Ammzi
Imperial Guardians Blazing Angels Alliance
107
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Posted - 2011.11.10 19:08:00 -
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proxwar wrote: So, breaking it down....
If your reps/transfers cycle is already activated on griefer, and the griefer gets aggression mid cycle it does NOT auto transfer to the logi due to it being already activated. But any mod activated after that time will get the pop up warning?
Did i get that right?
Yep, pretty much. quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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