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ZYMOTICAL
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Posted - 2005.12.31 20:35:00 -
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So last night I found some macrominers in a 0.4 system. They was mining out all the high-grade ores.
Was pretty obvious, with names like rrrry, rrryr, rryrr, ryrrr, and yrrrr.
4 miners in barges, all mining in one belt and a hauler that I think was controlled by a person because it came back very irregularly to grab ore.
They didn't respond to anything I said in local, didn't say anything when my domi repeatedly bumped them out of range of roids.
So I went over to the jetcan and took 1 piece of ore out, which flagged me. Nothing happened... not a sound. I jettisoned that ore and renamed my can to match theirs, then emptied their can into mine.
The hauler came back and snagged the ore from my disguised can, which flagged him. I don't know why he did it, but he ignored that nice popup.
I popped the ship, looted some nice 24% expanders, then I waited. The pod warped away, and noone said anything in local.
Later I got some mail in a language I can only assume is asian in origin, because it had little chinese lookin characters and I didn't understand it.
Bannable? Is this an exploit that I shouldn't do? Can it be considered harrassment or griefing?
I consider it piracy on someone who was AFK. I'll keep doing it unless someone tells me not to.
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BuzzBuz
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Posted - 2005.12.31 20:40:00 -
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See channel "macrointel" ingame - there are a lot of people doing just this very thing.
If you know that the people are macro miners then you should petition them before profiting from their ore. Otherwise you may carry on as you wish. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ...One mans rubbish is another mans treasure... |
Gonada
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Posted - 2005.12.31 20:40:00 -
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not bannable, make sure you petition before blowing them up to be safe
-I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.-
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Lexa A
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Posted - 2005.12.31 21:00:00 -
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next time you find macroers in 0.4 mail me ill happy come along and collect there strip miners
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Josarian Lysandor
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Posted - 2005.12.31 21:01:00 -
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It's only bannable if you dont report them as macro miners. Report em, then kill em
~Victory is the weakness of the enemy.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2005.12.31 21:02:00 -
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Edited by: Malthros Zenobia on 31/12/2005 21:02:11 You only have to petition them if you're going to keep their ore I thought?
But no, what you did was fine, keep doing it.
Odds are the mail you got said something about you being a jerk, or hurting his business, but it doesn't really matter, keep on popping macroers.
edit: if in low sec, you should blast the mining ships too if you can spare the sechit.
Originally by: Asnar Bush:but most importantly wtf was my carrier doing without support?
Admiral: well sorry mr president, guess you're not that stupid after all..... Bush: /me shoots Admiral
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2005.12.31 21:38:00 -
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Killing people in low-sec is not a bannable offense in the least, neither is using can flagging like you did.
I believe the bannable offence is farming the macros for your own profit (stealing ore over and over, etc).
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Meryl Stryfe
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Posted - 2005.12.31 21:45:00 -
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Just a hint to make your work go faster:
Split your ammo stack so you have one unit by itself. When next to the can, jet the single round, giving yourself a nice new can. Open it and the target can, select all of the target can's contents (either with context menu or ctrl-a) and move it all to your can at once. Take back your round of ammo, since you already paid for it, and might need it later.
Now all their ore is in your can, in less time than swiping and jetting their ore. You'll also only have to deal with the stealing popup once. (Don't ever turn that one off!)
With this trick you can move the ore and get flagged on your schedule, and not just trying to get a can set up.
Happy hunting! -- Help! I'm being re-rolled, and it burns! |
ZYMOTICAL
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Posted - 2005.12.31 22:01:00 -
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Oh, not to worry. My Domi's drones made short work of the barges not long after I got the asian gibberish evemail.
I collected all the loot from the ship destruction and left all the ore in cans, then popped each can myself because at the time I wasn't sure if taking ore was a bannable offense.
Now that I know I need to petition them and it's fine, I'll just pop and steal everything I see.
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Trepkos
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Posted - 2005.12.31 22:56:00 -
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If killing neutrals in high sec space is a bannable offence then I should have been banned a long time ago.
As far as I know, you can kill all you want in high sec as long as you die aswell for initiating the aggression. --------
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mirel yirrin
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Posted - 2005.12.31 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: ZYMOTICAL Oh, not to worry. My Domi's drones made short work of the barges not long after I got the asian gibberish evemail.
I collected all the loot from the ship destruction and left all the ore in cans, then popped each can myself because at the time I wasn't sure if taking ore was a bannable offense.
Now that I know I need to petition them and it's fine, I'll just pop and steal everything I see.
Run the mail through a Translator. The word order might not be right but you will probly get the gist of it. --------------------------------- No sig Detected. Please insert Sig. |
Salmonella
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Posted - 2005.12.31 23:39:00 -
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Edited by: Salmonella on 31/12/2005 23:41:07 Dudes,
Happy Newyear btw
Macro miners in 0.4 shouldn't be a problem , it's low sec after all
Should you think it's a problem contact any pirate and/or agent runner with too much sec status (like me ;) ) Hell , contact any straight up low sec mission runner/miner coz we like bad boys ;) and have too much sec status anyway...
Anyway , i never ever wanna see a low sec macro miner warning again ... 'coz honestly , it's low sec , and the tools are so there ...
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Alfarin
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Posted - 2005.12.31 23:57:00 -
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Originally by: Gonada not bannable, make sure you petition before blowing them up to be safe
Aye, always petition before you do anything.
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Grankor
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Posted - 2006.01.01 03:25:00 -
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Since when was stealing ore and killing people in low sec bannable? Some of us have been doing similar deeds for years.
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Montague Zooma
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Posted - 2006.01.01 06:16:00 -
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Quote: It's only bannable if you dont report them as macro miners. Report em, then kill em
That makes no sense to me. If they are so obviously macro miners, then CCP should easily be able to cancel their accounts. If CCP apparently has so much trouble identifying the macro miners, how are bonafide players expected to do so?
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MalaMo
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Posted - 2006.01.01 13:44:00 -
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Edited by: MalaMo on 01/01/2006 13:47:09 Err I just saw post above mine :)
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Judas Jones
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Posted - 2006.01.01 13:55:00 -
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Well, lets think about this, macro or afk???
Starters, u can control multiple accounts on one computer, I do at times, then u have to take into consideration the fact that strip miners have long cycle times, so u dont always stick around in between. Then, u say you get a mail with 'foreign' language so do you really expect them to retort in local if they don't understand a word u say. Finaly, macroers, honestly, would not really macro in low sec unless they are retarded cos of the rats and pie-rats.
It's more likely u killed a semi afk miner with multiple accounts which makes u a pirate. Yarr etc... -----------------------------------------------
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phillip duncan
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Posted - 2006.01.01 14:48:00 -
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You could also report them for harresment. All no languege specific chennels etc are english so if they have sent an offencive eve mail they can be warned/banned.
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ZYMOTICAL
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Posted - 2006.01.01 18:14:00 -
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I only asked because I thought using the can flagging system in such a way might be a bannable offense, as it seems like exploiting the game mechanics. Granted, I didn't need to do it since I was in 0.4 space, I could have killed them anyway. I started messing with them to see if they would respond. I would, however, do the same thing to any macroers I found in highsec space.
Since they didn't respond -even when I destroyed their hauler, and the can with all their ore- I concluded that they are macrominers and should die.
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Garnerius De'Nugent
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Posted - 2006.01.01 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: Alfarin
Originally by: Gonada not bannable, make sure you petition before blowing them up to be safe
Aye, always petition before you do anything.
According to a GM i just spoke to on this matter (i referred him to this exact thread), you are under no obligation to petition macrominers before stealing ore, aggressing them blah-de-blah.
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Originally by: Deathwing all of you grab ur sanitary napkins, stfu and get back in ur eve kitchens and make me a pie
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Alfarin
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Posted - 2006.01.01 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: Garnerius De'Nugent
Originally by: Alfarin
Originally by: Gonada not bannable, make sure you petition before blowing them up to be safe
Aye, always petition before you do anything.
According to a GM i just spoke to on this matter (i referred him to this exact thread), you are under no obligation to petition macrominers before stealing ore, aggressing them blah-de-blah.
Perhaps, but then if you don't petition how is the macro-miner going to get his account banned?
-- FutureFalcon EVE Tools |
Tori Welles
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Posted - 2006.01.01 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Alfarin Edited by: Alfarin on 01/01/2006 21:58:44
Originally by: Garnerius De'Nugent
Originally by: Alfarin
Originally by: Gonada not bannable, make sure you petition before blowing them up to be safe
Aye, always petition before you do anything.
According to a GM i just spoke to on this matter (i referred him to this exact thread), you are under no obligation to petition macrominers before stealing ore, aggressing them blah-de-blah.
Perhaps, but then if you don't petition how is the macro-miner going to get his account banned? To be honest we shouldn't need to petition though.
Hopefully the Dev team will take a leaf out of Valve's book and develop some anti-cheat/hack software which results in an perma-ban. Player petitions are not a sustainable way of combating macro-miners as:
1) It takes a lot of out time to do (well, they add up) 2) We can get it wrong (we're not Jovian) 3) Takes GM time to respond and investigate. 4) Open to griefing/abuse?
It's a growing problem that needs a Dev solution.
Petition him after you rob him blind.
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